Re: HBO RH Mini-Series Update: Tavis Smiley Interviews Actor Bill
pamela
> Tavis Smiley interviews actor Bill Paxton and touches on the Reclaiming
> History mini-series. You can watch the interview or scroll down about
> 3/5ths of the way through the interview transcript.
>
> Paxton shares his memories of being in the crowd at Fort Worth that
> fateful 11/22/63 morning, and is surprised that archival footage dug by
> the 6th floor museum at the TSBD of JFK's Fort Worth visit captured a
> young, 8 1/2 year old Bill Paxton in the crowd. A few hours after Paxton
> and his family saw the president, JFK was shot dead in Dallas.
>
> The HBO series apparently debuts in 2013 through the Tom Hanks production
> company, Playtone.
>
> Here's the link:
>
> http://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/archive/200903/20090316_paxton.html
Another retelling of the myth of the WCR no doubt. We can hardly wait.
WhiskyJoe
> The HBO series apparently debuts in 2013
> through the Tom Hanks production company,
> Playtone.
2013? Well, they better get it out before
the papers are released on the 75th
anniversary or the whole HBO project will
be pointless.
YoHarvey
Pamela still confuses myth with reality and PROOF.
David Von Pein
In 2007, Tom Hanks told Bugliosi the miniseries would be coming in 2010.
Obviously, that date was only a tentative one.
I think 2013 makes a lot more sense, because there's bound to be a whole
lot more interest in a JFK program like that (in general) around the 50th
anniversary of the assassination.
pjspeare
When I talked to Bugliosi in January, he said it would be ready by the
50th anniversary. I assumed he meant the 50th anniversary of JFK's
inauguration. I know a little about the movie business. Movies that
take SIX years to finish are movies where the source material is
either incredibly complex or questionable, or ones in which the studio
has no real faith in the project. From this we can guess that HBO
feels they need the "buzz" created by the fiftieth anniversary to
create any interest in this project. I think they're right.
Of course, there's also the possibility they're buying time for the
screenplay, so they can fix some of the mistakes in Bugliosi's book.
Fingers crossed.
geovu...@gmail.com
> On Apr 27, 8:08 pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > In 2007, Tom Hanks told Bugliosi the miniseries would be coming in 2010.
> > Obviously, that date was only a tentative one.
>
> > I think 2013 makes a lot more sense, because there's bound to be a whole
> > lot more interest in a JFK program like that (in general) around the 50th
> > anniversary of the assassination.
>
> When I talked to Bugliosi in January, he said it would be ready by the
> 50th anniversary. I assumed he meant the 50th anniversary of JFK's
> inauguration. I know a little about the movie business. Movies that
> take SIX years to finish are movies where the source material is
> either incredibly complex or questionable, or ones in which the studio
> has no real faith in the project. From this we can guess that HBO
> feels they need the "buzz" created by the fiftieth anniversary to
> create any interest in this project. I think they're right.
Yeah, it sounds like you are a real insider. Consider, that they have not
even started this project yet. You could also consider that schedules
have to line up and people have to finish current projects. You could also
consider that this is a gigantic undertaking.
As someone who knows "a little about the movie business", you probably
already know that HBO and Playtone have a sigificant track record of
success. I'm sure that they are concerned that the only way they are
going to get some buzz on this is by aligning it with the anniversary.
Get real. It's also an unbelieveably foolish comment to suggest that HBO
has questionable faith in this project considering the amount of money
that is going to be thrown into a miniseries of this size.
It certainly is an intelligent business decision to align the miniseries
with timing that will get the most attention, but your assumptions are
typical conspiratorial nonsense.
YoHarvey
Films of this type are often released on historic anniversary dates. It's
not unusual. Pat is right about interest lacking in the project perhaps.
American society today could care less about 11/22/63. Why else do
conspiracy theorists have such difficulty getting their message out? Or,
could most of the public simply feel kooks are nuts! I think they're
right.
pjspeare
geovult, I don't dispute that Playtone has a good track record and
will make a professional looking film. What you seem to be missing is
that the turnaround on this kind of project is normally something like
3 years, not 6. If HBO believed this film was truly worthwhile and
important AND something the public was dying to see, there is no way
in heck they'd delay it for three years. No way. They have an
obligation to make as much money for their parent company as possible.
As soon as possible. The interest in the case is dwindling, and there
is no reason to believe the number of viewers in 2013 will be much
greater than the number of viewers in 2010. In addition, one would
think they'd have the desire to get this thing launched before
Bugliosi kicks it, or gets too old to promote it. So I don't think the
delay is a shrewd business move.
Instead, as stated, I suspect HBO is being cautious, and is not 100%
sold on the merits of the film. My chapter 9b at patspeer.com, here:
http://www.patspeer.com/chapter9b%3Areclaiminghistoryfromreclaimin2
and my new essay on the Mary Ferell website, here:
http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
both demonstrate beyond any doubt that Bugliosi simply cannot be
trusted. I suspect HBO and Playtone are either trying to decide how
much they should trust Bugliosi, or have already hired independent
researchers to double-check his work. I suspect furthermore that
Bugliosi's most recent book--in which he calls President Bush a
murderer--and his most recent publicity tour--in which he courted and
befriended elements of the "fringe", may have played a part in this
delay. Just a hunch.
Anthony Marsh
Which explains why 90% of the public thinks it is a conspiracy. Because
your side is doing such a good job of arguing its case.
Rudy Lasparri
<355b775f-de25-421d...@v23g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
geovu...@gmail.com wrote:
HBO might be reconsidering producing a series about a scenario which
only 10% of the public believes. HBO has produced several successful
historical programs like "Conspiracy" which was about the Wansee
Conference. HBO still needs to make money and they need a series as
successful as "The Sopranos" or "Deadwood" or "Rome." In the end they
need to enhance shareholders' value.
pamela
Anthony, the WCR defenders have had all these years of a slanted field
-- the patsy was killed off, so there was no trial, the archives are
still suppressing a lot of documentation, and the ongoing coverup
jumps in with a new WCR redux book or tv show at opportune time.
Doesn't that count as doing a good job? :-0
Peter Fokes
wrote:
>Rights to the miniseries were snapped up long before Bugliosi's kooky
>conspiracy book about Bush being a murderer was published.
mmm
Isn't this "mini"series supposed to be about 10 episodes long?
When does a miniseries become a maxiseries?
To do justice to the book, the series might need to be multiseason!
:-)
Regards,
Peter Fokes,
Toronto
"Tom [Hanks] can walk into any room and make you feel like you're in
your living room, make you feel comfortable... make you feel like
there's a reason you're on the planet. That's a true gift. That's not
acting... it's heart and compassion." Julia Roberts, April 27, 2009
>
>http://www.zap2it.com/tv/news/zap-hbogetsrightstoreclaiminghistory,0,115636.story
>
>HBO had some major shake-ups recently. HBO Films president Colin
>Callender, who signed off on this deal, stepped down as the division
>president last year. This may contribute to the project delay, if
>there is a delay.
>
> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2008/10/hbos-head-of-fi.html
David Von Pein
www.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/7625660e0b49023a
PAT SPEER SAID:
>>> "The interest in the [JFK Assassination] case is dwindling, and there is no reason to believe the number of viewers [for the proposed HBO 10-part miniseries based on Vincent Bugliosi's 2007 book "Reclaiming History"] in 2013 will be much greater than the number of viewers in 2010." <<<
DVP SAYS:
I'm fairly confident in saying that Pat Speer is 100% wrong about the
statement quoted above.
"Round Number Anniversaries" of major historical events almost always
attract a goodly amount of interest from people. And I can prove that
is true when using just my single "YouTube" channel as a mini-example.
I recently uploaded some videos to my YouTube "channel" that are of
interest to me personally. But I really didn't know if they were going
to be of any interest to other YouTube viewers.
But suddenly I noticed that these particular videos were getting a
whole bunch of views and comments. And then I put 2 and 2 together and
realized why I was getting so many views for those videos -- it was
the "Anniversary" angle that was creating the spike in viewership.
The two video series I'm referring to are a documentary about the 1979
accident at the Three Mile Island nuclear power plant....and the first
flight of the Boeing 747 jumbo jet in 1969.
The 30th anniversary of the Three Mile Island accident was last month
(March 28th); and the 40th anniversary of the maiden flight of the 747
was on February 9th of this year.
And as of the writing of this post on 4/29/09, the top 3 "Most Viewed"
videos on my channel (and 8 of the top 12) are videos that relate to
those two "anniversary" events:
www.YouTube.com/profile?user=DavidVonPein&view=videos&sort=v
So, it's quite obvious to me that anniversaries spark interest. And
the 50th Anniversary of JFK's assassination will definitely be a
"biggie".
Therefore, it makes a whole lot of marketing sense for HBO to want to
wait until November 2013 to debut the 10-part miniseries based on
Vincent Bugliosi's book.
David Von Pein
>>> " "Tom [Hanks] can walk into any room and make you feel like you're in your living room, make you feel comfortable... make you feel like there's a reason you're on the planet. That's a true gift. That's not acting... it's heart and compassion." Julia Roberts, April 27, 2009" <<<
Good quote, Peter Fokes. I like it. Thanks.
Here's another.......
"Has anyone ever just told this [JFK Assassination] story without
bias, without an agenda, without a conspiracy? Just tell it as a
human-interest story. And as I researched it, I found out Vincent Bugliosi
was just about to release a book--which is an unbelievable...cellular
analysis called 'Reclaiming History'--I took this to Tom [Hanks]...and so
Tom said this is our next project. So we're working on it for 2013." --
Bill Paxton; March 16, 2009
www.YouTube.com/watch?v=eU07-SUQv5Q
www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/archive/200903/20090316_paxton.html
geovu...@gmail.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
Your typical timetable of three years is based on what? Currently,
Playtone is working on a miniseries for HBO called "The Pacific".
It's a Band of Brothers like World War II project based on the Pacific
theater of operations. Casting for that production began in 2007 and
it will not be released until 2010. That's three years for the actual
on location production, which doesn't include preproduction efforts of
securing the rights to the books and getting the concept put
together. Obviously, the full time table for that project is longer
than three years.
More importantly, considering that "The Pacific" is probably taking
most of their resources right now, it would make sense that they would
be moving on to production of RH following the completion of "The
Pacific". As I stated earlier, schedules of the major players have to
line up. Considering that all of the major players are currently
working on a major project, it is understandable that RH would have to
wait to follow. The fact that it will conveniently allow for three
years of production from the end of "The Pacific" to the anniversary
of the assassination simply sweetens the deal and probably dictated
the final release date.
This project will most probably come in at over 100 million dollars.
No television company is investing 100 to 150 million dollars
lightly. If there was any question about whether or not this was
going to happen, we would not be hearing Paxton talking scheduled
release dates. You can try to cast doubt on this, but clearly this is
going to be a major television event from an experienced, successful
team. We will have to wait and see how it will be received, but I
don't think you are going to be pleased.
pjspeare
geovult, I fully expect the program will be well-directed, acted, and
received, at least by the mainstream critics. Some will even say it
answers all the questions, blah blah blah. They did the same with
Bugliosi's book. They were wrong then and will be wrong in 2013. When
I wrote my essay on Bugliosi's use of footnotes, (which can be found
at chapter 9b at patspeer.com) and showed that Bugliosi is not to be
trusted, and that he is every bit as biased and deceptive in his
presentation as those he attacks, I emailed links to several of the
"reviewers" of Bugliosi's book. They'd previously expressed interest
in anything I had casting doubt on Bugliosi's approach. There was no
response. The mainstream media, if you will, is totally invested in
the idea that if there'd been a conspiracy THEY'D have uncovered it
long ago. Which is laughable. As shown in Chapter 1 and 1b at
patspeer.com, they BLEW the story of the century from the get-go,
published leaks from the FBI in lieu of stories they'd actually
investigated, and never had the gumption to start over in an attempt
to get it straight.