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Gary Combs

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Feb 26, 2009, 11:18:40 AM2/26/09
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Here is a link to a z-film that is telling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DLqjqTbIPU


gc


avon

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Feb 26, 2009, 4:23:27 PM2/26/09
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On Feb 26, 4:18 pm, "Gary Combs" <glcco...@charter.net> wrote:
> Here is a link to a z-film that is telling.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DLqjqTbIPU
>
> gc

SLYT as they say on mefi. do you really believe this? i am not
convinced. the street sign bit: or was there actually a street sign
there which can be seen in other photos? yes. you would need an army
of technicians to retouch all the films and photos who need to be kept
quiet about what they have done for 40 years to achieve this. and you
need to get hold of every single picture taken at that time. it seems
somewhat improbable to me. did Abe Zapruder ever say that he felt his
film had been retouched in all this time?

fun to watch though!

David Wimp

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Feb 26, 2009, 4:23:56 PM2/26/09
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Gary Combs wrote:
> Here is a link to a z-film that is telling.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DLqjqTbIPU
>
>

I only got as far as the first complaint about people not looking at the
limo. My explanation would be that the president has already passed
them and they are looking back at the cars farther back in the
motorcade. Zapruder's view is not anywhere near perpendicular to the
street, you know.

Gerry Simone

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Feb 26, 2009, 8:25:23 PM2/26/09
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I tend to agree with you.

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Gerry Simone

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Feb 26, 2009, 8:25:41 PM2/26/09
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What if they looked back towards what they heard as the beginning of a
shot or shots?

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Anthony Marsh

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Feb 26, 2009, 8:25:51 PM2/26/09
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Zapruder's view is exactly perpendicular to the street at some frames.
The street curves.


Anthony Marsh

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Feb 26, 2009, 8:26:03 PM2/26/09
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Retouched? Well, his original copy was manhandled and damaged. But no
frames were cut out of all copies. Notice how I proved that.

http://the-puzzle-palace.com/zapruder.htm

> fun to watch though!
>
>
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a1e...@verizon.net

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Feb 26, 2009, 8:32:35 PM2/26/09
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On Feb 26, 11:18 am, "Gary Combs" <glcco...@charter.net> wrote:
> Here is a link to a z-film that is telling.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DLqjqTbIPU
>
> gc

The filmed motions of Toni Foster are further evidence of alteration.
Frames Z-311, Z-312, Z-314 and Z-315 show her walking forward.
However, inclusion of Z-313 in this sequence ruins the grace of her
gait.

http://mysite.verizon.net/a1eah71/backward.htm

Using the above link to study the motions of Toni Foster show that
frames Z-311, Z-313, Z-314 and Z-315 allocate no time for inclusion of
the so called head shot frame, Z-313.

The statements and testimonies published by the WC of two dozen head
shot eyewitnesses provide evidence that they altered the immediate
reaction of President Kennedy. In particular these eyewitnesses do not
describe any motion even remotely resembling the back and to the left
movement. Yet some witnesses described minor details of the head shot
that we see only in slow motion.

For details see the following link.

http://mysite.verizon.net/a1eah71/twodozen.htm


Andrew Mason

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Feb 27, 2009, 8:16:34 AM2/27/09
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I did get a chuckle about the lamp post section (5:04). The mind
boggingly stupid comment is made that the background behind the lamppost
should change for some reason as the camera follows the limo. But the
camera's position and the lamp post's position do not change! So the
position of anything in the background would not change relative to the
camera and the lamppost.

Andrew Mason

Andrew Mason

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Feb 27, 2009, 8:16:36 PM2/27/09
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Anthony Marsh wrote:

Zapruder can be perpendicular to the street in only one frame, and it is
around z313. He can only be perpendicular to a curve at more than one
place if the curve is a circle with Zapruder at the centre of the circle.

Andrew Mason

Anthony Marsh

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Feb 27, 2009, 8:23:25 PM2/27/09
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On 2/26/2009 8:32 PM, a1e...@verizon.net wrote:
> On Feb 26, 11:18 am, "Gary Combs"<glcco...@charter.net> wrote:
>> Here is a link to a z-film that is telling.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DLqjqTbIPU
>>
>> gc
>
> The filmed motions of Toni Foster are further evidence of alteration.
> Frames Z-311, Z-312, Z-314 and Z-315 show her walking forward.
> However, inclusion of Z-313 in this sequence ruins the grace of her
> gait.
>
> http://mysite.verizon.net/a1eah71/backward.htm
>
> Using the above link to study the motions of Toni Foster show that
> frames Z-311, Z-313, Z-314 and Z-315 allocate no time for inclusion of
> the so called head shot frame, Z-313.
>

More nonsense.

> The statements and testimonies published by the WC of two dozen head
> shot eyewitnesses provide evidence that they altered the immediate
> reaction of President Kennedy. In particular these eyewitnesses do not
> describe any motion even remotely resembling the back and to the left
> movement. Yet some witnesses described minor details of the head shot
> that we see only in slow motion.
>

So what? Do not rely on witnesses.

a1e...@verizon.net

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Feb 28, 2009, 8:58:43 AM2/28/09
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On Feb 27, 8:23 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 2/26/2009 8:32 PM, a1ea...@verizon.net wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 26, 11:18 am, "Gary Combs"<glcco...@charter.net>  wrote:
> >> Here is a link to a z-film that is telling.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DLqjqTbIPU
>
> >> gc
>
> > The filmed motions of Toni Foster are further evidence of alteration.
> > Frames Z-311, Z-312, Z-314 and Z-315 show her walking forward.
> > However, inclusion of Z-313 in this sequence ruins the grace of her
> > gait.
>
> >http://mysite.verizon.net/a1eah71/backward.htm
>
> > Using the above link to study the motions of Toni Foster show that
> > frames Z-311, Z-313, Z-314 and Z-315 allocate no time for inclusion of
> > the so called head shot frame, Z-313.
>
> More nonsense.

I suppose that you have fitted Z-313 into its numerical sequence and
produced a smoother motion than a sequence without the head shot
frame. So post a link and show us that your two-word reply means
something other than Anthony Marsh wished he had a counter argument.

>
> > The statements and testimonies published by the WC of two dozen head
> > shot eyewitnesses provide evidence that they altered the immediate
> > reaction of President Kennedy. In particular these eyewitnesses do not
> > describe any motion even remotely resembling the back and to the left
> > movement. Yet some witnesses described minor details of the head shot
> > that we see only in slow motion.
>
> So what? Do not rely on witnesses.

Of course, you dispute the head shot eyewitnesses. Not one witness
described a mechanical motion pf President Kennedy to support your
mythical frontal shot.

> > For details see the following link.
>

> >http://mysite.verizon.net/a1eah71/twodozen.htm- Hide quoted text -
>

Herbert


Anthony Marsh

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Feb 28, 2009, 10:23:34 PM2/28/09
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That part of Elm street is a large arc. It does not represent a perfect
circle and the locus is not Zapruder. But if you draw a line from Zapruder
to the street or even better to the limo, it will be perpendicular during
a few frames.

> Andrew Mason


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