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Anthony Marsh  
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 More options Mar 27 2012, 3:21 pm
Newsgroups: alt.assassination.jfk
From: Anthony Marsh <anthony.ma...@comcast.net>
Date: 27 Mar 2012 15:21:08 -0400
Local: Tues, Mar 27 2012 3:21 pm
Subject: Re: David Mantik And John McAdams
On 3/26/2012 7:10 PM, Hank Sienzant (AKA Joe Zircon) wrote:

> On Mar 25, 6:11 pm, Anthony Marsh<anthony.ma...@comcast.net>  wrote:
>> On 3/25/2012 9:56 AM, claviger wrote:

>>> On Mar 24, 5:54 pm, Anthony Marsh<anthony.ma...@comcast.net>    wrote:
>>>> On 3/24/2012 2:56 PM, claviger wrote:

>>>>> Anthony,

>>>>>> Actually . . . the solid science that has been done since the 60s
>>>>>> supports the conspiracy conclusion.

>>>>>> Authentication of the autopsy photos and x-rays
>>>>>> Authentication of the Backyard Photos
>>>>>> Authentication of the Zapruder film
>>>>>> Fackler's and Lattimer's ballistics experiments
>>>>>> The acoustical evidence
>>>>>> HSCA Forensic Pathology Panel

>>>>> If true, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now would we? Based
>>>>> on the new information, the current Administration would be hot on the
>>>>> trail of the assassins who murdered this popular President who belonged to
>>>>> the same political party.  Unless they are now part of the cover-up too.
>>>>> Guess they must be based on your way of thinking.

>>>> Can you explain why this current administration felt that it was so
>>>> vital to our National Security to keep documents from WWI Top Secret
>>>> even though they had been published in a children's magazine in 1921?
>>> No I can't but I'm fascinated by this revelation.  Cite please.

>> CIA Declassifies World War I-Era Documents

>> KIMBERLY DOZIER   04/19/11 10:28 PM ET   AP
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>> WASHINGTON ? The CIA lifted the lid on one corner of the cloak and
>> dagger world of World War I, declassifying six of the oldest secret
>> documents in the U.S. government archives, the agency announced Tuesday.

>> The documents show top techniques used by spies, generals and diplomats
>> to send secret messages in a diplomatic war that raged long after the
>> guns stopped. The records reveal how invisible ink was used to send word
>> between allies, and spies learned to open letters to read each other's
>> secrets without leaving a trace.

>> One document suggests this method for passing secret messages: soaking a
>> handkerchief or collar in a mixture of nitrate, soda and starch, then
>> drying the fabric. The chemicals come out when the cloth is placed in
>> water. The liquid becomes invisible ink, that can be loaded into a pen
>> and used to write a message. The recipient develops the writing by
>> applying a second chemical, iodate of potassium.

>> There's even a document written in French of the German's secret ink
>> formula, showing the French had cracked the enemy's code.

>> "These documents remained classified for nearly a century until recent
>> advancements in technology made it possible to release them," CIA
>> Director Leon E. Panetta said in a statement Tuesday.

>> Recent advances in the chemistry of secret ink, and the lighting methods
>> used to detect it have made the secrets revealed Tuesday obsolete,
>> explained CIA spokesperson Marie E. Harf.

>> Documents on secret writing fall under the CIA's authority to
>> declassify. The agency declassified more than a million historical
>> documents last year alone, the agency said.

>> But the CIA was not always so eager to share these particular secrets,
>> according to Steve Aftergood, of the Federation for American Scientists.
>> He says the CIA resisted a Freedom of Information Act request in 2002 to
>> release the records.

>> Nor was he impressed at Panetta's statement that the documents could be
>> released now because of new technological advances.

>> "Invisible ink was rendered obsolete by digital encryption long ago, not
>> in the last few years," Aftergood said.

>> "Director Panetta is attempting to rationalize the CIA's irrational
>> information policies, but there is no known basis for his claim."

>> The documents are now available on the agency's website at the site's
>> Freedom of Information Act Electronic Reading Room.

>> Scholars will also be able to examine them at the National Archives.

>> ___

>> Online:

>> http://www.cia.gov

>> Why are you so uninformed? Is it to maintain your fiction that you are a
>> WC defender?- Hide quoted text -

> You originally said:

> "Can you explain why this current administration felt that it was so vital
> to our National Security to keep documents from WWI Top Secret even though
> they had been published in a children's magazine in 1921?"

> I see nothing about these methods being published in a children's magazine
> in the cited article.

Well, then you should have asked about that specific point. Thanks for
spotting that typo. It was 1931, not 1921. It was not a national story so
you might not be able to find it online. It was published only in The
Boston Globe and was a special profile of the archivist who got the
documents declassified.

?There is something like 2,500 separate classification guides in operation
now in the US government,?? Ferriero said. ?What?s secret in one agency
may not be secret in another.??

He recently won a symbolic victory when the CIA relented after years of
denying researchers? requests for six ?secret?? formulas for invisible
ink, a tool of American spy craft during World War I.

?The reason they caved was because the National Declassification Center
staff discovered that the formulas had actually been published in 1931,??
Ferriero recounts with a hint of exasperation. ?The way they found them?
Google Books.??


 
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