On Oct 20, 10:58 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 10/20/2012 8:53 PM, Bud wrote:Right, he declined a lawyer.
> >>> "Bud" <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>> And the biggest majority of the Tippit witnesses could
> >>>>>>>>> Not true. Calloway, Scoggins, Markham and the two Davis girls all
> >>>>>>>> Someone who was not even preset at the crime scene could have
> >>>>>>> You don`t understand line-ups. They are conducted so the witness can
> >>>>>> You don't understand Dallas. You are talking about theoretically. I
> >>>>> And somehow this framing is aided by beating the suspects up and
> >>>> Yes, so that people who weren't even in Dallas that day could pick out
> >>> This is your idea, that the Dallas police beat Oswald up and made
> >>>> There was a 48 Hours special which showed how police use these tricks
> >>> Why would Oswald just simply stand there in the line up looking at the
> >> Some people suggest that Oswald`s antics made him easy to select as
> >> If he had done that he would have stuck out like a red rose.
> > He stuck out by making a fuss. Maybe he wanted to stick out.
> >> And what about
> > Who said this and what did they say exactly?
> >> That didn't have any effect on the
> > You say this because that is what you would have done. I wouldn`t
> >>> More than likely he was still screaming that he wanted an
> >> There is some film of his protests.
> >> Why wouldn't Oswald protest this line up? He was being placed with the two
> > What makes you say they are Mexicans? And what makes you think they
> >>> He wanted his Constitutional rights to have an attorney present
> >> He should have exercised that right when it was offered to him.
> >> Besides why wasn't the FBI in charge of interrogating Oswald?
> > Dallas police had jurisdiction.
> >> That was a
> > You are making stuff up.
> >> Federal law takes presidence over
> > You are making stuff up.
> >> The murder of the president would surely be more important than
> > Is this part of your imaginary Federal law also?
> >> In any case Oswald did have the right to an
> > He was offered representation. He declined.
> >> Being in a line up is not the place to plead for an attorney, even though
> > He did answer questions and he declined an offer of representation.
> >> We only have police reports filled out by the police that were violating
> > No, we also have reports by SS agents, FBI agents and postal
> >> Oswald did not declined the very rights he wanted
> > Are you calling the President of the Dallas ACLU a liar?
> Oswald told him he did not want a local lawyer.
> >> Maranda rights is once the suspects request an attorney, oneWhat could they do to him if he declined to answer questions? Be
> >> must be appointed immediately and all procedures must be stopped. That is
> >> common law. Everybody knows that.
> > What everyone doesn`t know is that it didn`t come into effect intil
> >> And where is the police report stating
> > It wouldn`t matter if he decided to talk. He had the right not to
> What ruling granted him that right? Be very explicit. The Miranda
> >> He was still asking for ANY ATTORNEY to come forward at his pressWhat do you is it establishes when a suspect claims he is innocent?
> >> conference the evening before the police allowed him to be executed by
> >> Ruby.
> > Yah, he said a lot of things that weren`t true, trying to portray
> So in your world when a suspect says that he is innocent you think that
> >>> Some officers stated Oswald didn't say anything during these interrogation
> >>> and they said he was arrogant and uncooperative.
> >> Who are the officers and what did they say exactly?
> >> That is what I want you to say. You point your finger, and you can't site
> > Here is Hill talking about Oswald being arrogant and not answering
> > But he is talking about questions he asked him on the ride to the
> >>> That is probably true.
> >> You figure he didn`t talk despite so many people saying he did. As
> >> Just yesterday I was reviewing the DPD reports and saw what Oswald had
> > Now you discover he talked. And you`ve discovered that witnesses did
> >> The Q&A's were not recorded, word
> > You`re making stuff up again.
> >> The officier was smart enough to
> > Huh?
> >>> Yes by then they had the rifle and the shells. But they didn't have the
> >> It`s routine to show suspects to the people who witnessed the crime, but
> >> They did not have time to put the case together. He was arrested just
> > Identification is part of putting a case together. Gathering
> >> Did the keystoners think Oswald was going for a breakout?
> > He might die suddenly in custody.
> >>> And here the witnesses could
> >> You need to get up to speed on the evidence.
> >> Like I already said I read some of the witnesses reports. They did sign
> > I think they picked Oswald because Oswald is the man they saw. At
> >>> Even though the line ups were made to show anyone that
> >> Is that what you think you would have done, select someone even if
> > "Reasearch", is it what you would have done, selected Oswald even if
> >>> By law, if Oswald said anything to sway anything the witness in either
> >> You`re making stuff up now.
> > Seems I was right, since you`ve offered no such law in support of
> >>> But the DPD did the
> >> You think that all a guilty person needs to do is kick up a fuss and
> >> Any two bit attorney could get this evidence thrown out.
> > Non-responsive to the point. Do you think all a suspect has to do is
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