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David Von Pein  
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 More options Jul 20 2007, 2:32 pm
Newsgroups: alt.assassination.jfk
From: David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com>
Date: 20 Jul 2007 14:32:29 -0400
Local: Fri, Jul 20 2007 2:32 pm
Subject: Re: From Bugliosi's Secretary on the "Ghostwriting" Charge
Vincent Bugliosi's secretary (Rosemary Newton) wrote to me on July 19,
2007, and asked me if I would re-post the following Internet messages
which rebut the stupid allegations that Mr. Bugliosi's JFK book was
"ghostwritten" by various authors.

>From Rosemary's e-mail to me, I get the feeling that Mr. Bugliosi is

getting a little more perturbed about the accusations started by David
Lifton (or at least I think that Lifton started the rumor).

Anyway, I too think it's a good idea to let people read the truth once
again regarding Mr. Lifton's ridiculous "ghostwriting" allegations
with respect to Bugliosi's magnificent book, "Reclaiming History". So,
I'll give the following few posts a deserved instant replay:

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PATRICIA LAMBERT SAID:

"I have received several accounts of remarks David Lifton made about
me on the Black Op Radio program of May 24th concerning Vince
Bugliosi's
book "Reclaiming History."

For the record: I did not write one single word of Vince Bugliosi's
book, not even a footnote. I never saw Vince Bugliosi's manuscript. I
never saw any portion of Vince Bugliosi's manuscript. I didn't even
get a peek at the galleys. No comma, colon, semi-colon, parenthesis,
hyphen, apostrophe or period is my doing, to say nothing of sentences,
paragraphs and a whole chapter. Because I have been traveling, I have
not even seen the published book and have only sketchy, second hand
reports of what it says.

I have indeed been in touch with Bugliosi; we have talked on the
telephone and I provided him with some documents. That is the full
extent of my involvement in his book.

I cannot imagine what prompted Lifton to make such a stunningly false
allegation about me. But false it is. I am not a ghostwriter. I have
never been a ghostwriter. I have no intention of being a ghostwriter.

Since I know unequivocally that Lifton is wrong about the role he
assigned to me, I see no reason to believe he is correct about the
other unidentified writers on whom he has bestowed the credit for
having written Vince Bugliosi's book.

David Lifton owes me an apology.

David Lifton owes Vince Bugliosi an apology."

/s/ Patricia Lambert (July 2, 2007)

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/152c32e6339d8670

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DAVID S. LIFTON BELLOWED:

>>> "If he {Vincent Bugliosi} wants to write about the JFK case, he should stick to the facts." <<<

DVP SAID:

Can David Lifton REALLY not see the astounding hypocrisy that resides
within the above statement.

Mr. Lifton has no more been able to "stick to the facts" in his book
"Best Evidence" than a snowflake could survive in Death Valley in
August. Absolutely incredible. (But hilarious.)

>>> [Lifton:] "Reclaiming History was written (or perhaps "assembled," is a better word) by someone who wants to take credit for it all, without acknowledging the truth about how the book was written." <<<

I guess it's going to take that lawsuit (which Vince B. hinted at) to
get David S. Lifton to shut his trap about the ghostwriting crap after
all.

But, like any good conspiracy-loving kook, Lifton (whose
"ghostwriting" theory has already been totally debunked) will continue
to spin the story to his own perceived advantage for months or years
to come.

Absolutely pathetic.

I'd remind Mr. Lifton to glance at pages 1514 and 1515 of "Reclaiming
History", where Mr. Bugliosi gives full credit to the "two people who
made noteworthy writing contributions" (VB's direct quote from pp.
1514-1515). Those "two people" being Dale K. Myers and Fred Haines.

So much for not "acknowledging" their "noteworthy writing
contributions".

A few more reminders for Mr. Lifton........

"I am proud to say that I have done 99.9 percent of my own research
for everything I wrote in this book (which is typical for me, not
feeling comfortable relying on others to do research for me)." -- Page
1516; "RECLAIMING HISTORY: THE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F.
KENNEDY"; Copyright "2007 by Vincent Bugliosi"

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/8594afea970a...

~~~~~~

Culled excerpts from Rosemary Newton's response to Mr. Lifton's
charges:

"This is in response to David Lifton's outrageous, malicious and
contemptible lie regarding Vincent Bugliosi's book, 'Reclaiming
History'. .... I say, unequivocally, that NO section of Mr. Bugliosi's
book was ghostwritten. How do I know? Simple. I was the one (as Mr.
Bugliosi's secretary for many years in the writing of this book) who
transcribed a great number of tapes of his dictation and, much more,
and with no exaggeration, thousands of yellow pad sheets of his
handwriting as well as his handwritten faxes on every single section
of the book. I can vouch for the fact that Vincent Bugliosi is a man
of integrity, principle, and I might add, a perfectionist with a
capital "P".

"He is someone who has spent years researching this subject, as
evidenced by the over 10,000 citations in his book (perhaps the most
heavily sourced non-fiction book of any kind ever), which included not
only his countless telephone calls and letters, but personal
interviews as well. Indeed, if anyone looks at the 170 pages of
citations (source notes) in the CD endnote, you will see that at least
99% of the interviews upon which Mr. Bugliosi's book was, in
considerable part, written, were interviews of witnesses he personally
conducted. That, Mr. Lifton, if you are reading this, is what an
author of Vincent Bugliosi's caliber does.

"What could possibly cause you, Mr. Lifton, to tell such an
unmitigated falsehood? ....

"I might add that I took notice of the fact that you did not dwell on
the content of Mr. Bugliosi's dealing with specific issues (e.g.,
autopsy, acoustic, Zapruder film, etc.). Instead, you have made an
allegation that not only is totally false, but completely irrelevant
to the merits of the book. By the way, Mr. Lifton (if you're still
reading this), you called Vincent Bugliosi a "street bully" in his
writing style. But I thought you said ghostwriters wrote his book?"

/s/ Rosemary Newton (July 3 or 4, 2007)

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/browse_thread/th...

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/4a86564f3ef2afca

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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/browse_thread/th...

A FOLLOW-UP:

DAVID S. LIFTON SPEWED:

>>> "{Paul} O'Connor's story never changed. And so the answer is: "Yes, Mr. Bugliosi, O'Connor said that repeatedly..." <<<

DVP RESPONDED:

What difference does it really make WHEN O'Connor told his three-
pronged fairy tale (body bag/no brain/shipping casket), or how many
times he uttered the same crazy triple tale of absurdity? Via scads of
other evidence, O'Connor was still proven dead-wrong each time he told
it.

Yes, Vince made an error when he said O'Connor never told the HSCA his
triple fairy tale prior to 1978. But Vince ACKNOWLEDGES THIS ERROR IN
HIS OWN BOOK. He didn't hide anything. He was being up front
concerning the O'Connor error he made.

But the bigger overall point with respect to Paul O'Connor is:
O'Connor (for whatever reason we can only guess about) said he saw
things that just simply DID NOT OCCUR ON NOV. 22, 1963. And Bugliosi,
rightly so, blasts him regarding those errors.

>>> [Lifton:] "I have by no means exhausted my information on the subject of ghostwriting. Nor do I have any real interest in figuring out who wrote the original drafts of each and every chapter..." <<<

But it was nice of you, David, not to slander Patricia Lambert's name
again, as you continue your anti-Bugliosi campaign and your
unsupportable quest to prove that "Reclaiming History" was
"ghostwritten".

Is Patricia off the hook now? And would you care to apologize for your
error with respect to Ms. Lambert? Or would you rather remain wishy-
washy on that particular subject too?

>>> [Lifton:] "{The various sections of "Reclaiming History"} do seem to be written in markedly different styles." <<<

This is total nonsense, of course. I've read the whole book cover-to-
cover (and all the endnotes too), and there is positively no
difference in writing "style" or technique throughout the book. It's
ALL VINCE B. from start to finish.

And the next silly allegation is?.....

>>> [Lifton:] "No doubt, Bugliosi wrote some (and perhaps a lot) of his own book..." <<<

Gee, how nice of Mr. Lifton to make such a heartwarming concession.

(Who's got the "eyeroll" icon? I need it here....badly.)

>>> [Lifton:] "There is nothing honorable or nice about the way Bugliosi writes about these issues, or addresses an adversary." <<<

What makes you think that conspiracy authors (such as yourself), who
have distorted history and the true facts surrounding the
assassination of President Kennedy for decades on end, deserve the
SLIGHTEST bit of respect...or deserve to be treated "nice"?

You're living in a dream world, Mr. Lifton (and you obviously have
been living in that world ever since your body-altering fantasy began
in 1966).

Mr. Bugliosi isn't obligated to play "nice" when dealing with
conspiracy-loving theorists who, as I said, have deliberately
distorted the historical record relating to JFK's death (Jim Garrison
and Oliver Stone to name but two additional examples).

In fact, I think Vince was far too polite to some of the CTers that he
writes about in his book. He could have lambasted them even more than
he did. And they would have deserved it (IMO).

An excerpt from "Reclaiming History".....

"One could safely say that David Lifton took folly to an unprecedented
level. And considering the monumental foolishness of his colleagues in
the conspiracy community, that's saying something." -- Vincent T.
Bugliosi; Page 1066

Sometimes, as they say, the truth hurts, Mr. Lifton.

>>> [Lifton:] "To put it mildly, Bugliosi has an "attitude" problem." <<<

Yeah, I think so too....and that's because he didn't bash your stupid
body-stealing theory NEARLY hard enough in his book. You only got 14
pages, David. Stone and Garrison got 90. You should consider suing
Vince for equal time. After all, your nonsense is just as good as
Jim's and Oliver's, right?

>>> [Lifton:] "The JFK assassination is a very complex problem." <<<

It's only "complex" due to people like you, who have distorted history
(big-time). Vince Bugliosi is merely "reclaiming" that distorted
history.

>>> [Lifton:] "The NY Times reporter who interviewed me on the subject noted that Mr. Bugliosi "is not an immodest man," an understatement if there ever was one." <<<

LOL. Which means, of course, just the opposite of what the reporter
(and you) intended it to mean. For, if Vince is "not immodest" (as
claimed above)....then he's....modest.

>>> [Lifton:] "If, as Mr. Bugliosi says, "this is a book of inserts," then I believe I know very well what that probably means. Substantial amounts of writing were done by third parties..." <<<

Another LOL.

This is just EXACTLY the sort of hilarious backward mindset exhibited
by CTers that Mr. Bugliosi talks about (at some length) in "Reclaiming
History"....i.e.,

Vincent Bugliosi (per Lifton's theory) has had his book "ghostwritten"
by many different people, but then Vince just goes right ahead AND
PLACES WORDS IN HIS BOOK THAT (per Lifton) LEAD STRAIGHT TO THE NOTION
THAT THE BOOK WAS, IN FACT, GHOSTWRITTEN (via VB's remark about using
gobs of "inserts").

That's very similar, IMO, to when the CTers claim that a certain JFK-
assassination conspirator did something to advance the "covert,
secretive plot", but then they just went right ahead and WROTE UP A
MEMO OR SOME OTHER DOCUMENT that can be accessed by researchers in
future years that would prove the existence of the conspiracy the
plotters should have been desperately attempting to hide at all costs.

So, per this VB example, I guess Vince wanted to keep it a secret that
the book was ghostwritten, but he decided (for whatever reason) to
place in that very same book evidence (per Lifton) that shows the book
was ghostwritten.

I love the "CT Mindset". (Mainly because I don't have a mindset like
that.) ;)

One more time (for effect)......

"I am proud to say that I have done 99.9 percent of my own research
for everything I wrote in this book (which is typical for me, not
feeling comfortable relying on others to do research for me)." -- Page
1516; "RECLAIMING HISTORY: THE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F.
KENNEDY"; Copyright "2007 by Vincent Bugliosi"

All lies...right, DSL?

And to think...David said on Black Op Radio that he (David Lifton) was
thinking about suing Vincent Bugliosi! That would be like Lee Harvey
Oswald threatening to sue the city of Dallas for false arrest on
11/22/63.

Vince has the conspiracy-loving crowd all worked up into a foaming-at-
the-mouth lather. It's utterly hysterical to watch too....particularly
Mr. Lifton's pathetic attempts (via mile-long "I Was Right After All"
type of posts) to reconcile in his own mind the validity of his
worthless "ghostwriting" tale.

Lifton's next chapter will probably be subtitled --- Bugliosi wrote
nothing! Arlen Specter wrote the whole "RH" tome by himself in
Pennsylvania!

BTW, Vince said on a radio interview that his wife actually came up
with the title for the book ("Reclaiming History")....a title that
fits perfectly, too, IMO. So, I guess this will give Mr. Lifton yet
another "subcontractor" to chew on.

David Von Pein
July 6, 2007

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/c027e4d0a9f1141a

http://jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/news/news_07050701.htm

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/f8e6564fbd062a02

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And here is Dale Myers' excellent article about Mr. Lifton's silly
allegations:

http://jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/news/news_07050701.htm

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