Never. Please killfile me.
> "Anthony Marsh" <anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> On 11/7/2012 10:14 PM, John Fiorentino wrote:
>>> Claviger: Bill Clarke and all:
>>> While I'm not trying to make a case for others involvement in the
>>> assassination, nor for the rifle, it was quite sufficient for the job.
>> Oswald's rifle was not sufficient for an assassination. He missed a
>> stationary target at 120 feet. The scope was defective and damaged.
>> The iron sights were fixed and preset for 200 meters so a perfect aim
>> at a point 270 feet away would send the bullet to a point 5-6 inches
>> about the point of aim. That is not what I call accuracy.
>>> The results of course is the evident fact that JFK is quite dead.
>> The fact that Oswald's rifle was defective and caused the shooter to
>> miss is what necessitated the insurance shot from the grassy knoll,
>> which revealed the conspiracy.
>>> The MC Rifle has had many critics, and yet was used extensively for many
>>> years, and there are many variants of the:
>> Yeah, it was used while they knew it was a piece of junk and phasing
>> it out for a better model.
>>> "Fucile di Fanteria Mod. 91/38" which is the correct name.
>> Maybe if you are an Italian. We are Americans.
>>> Re: the ammo::: The small bore cartridges seem to have a long list of
>>> advantages, as flatness of trajectory, outstanding penetration at
>>> distance, less weight, less recoil, smaller dimensions, and less
>>> material required in production.
>> None of that is true.
>>> So, all in all not really a bad weapon for the purpose.
>> Good enough to cause Italy to lose the war.
>> As Dave Emary said:
>> 6.5 mm Carcanos were equipped with a wide variety of sights. Early
>> model M91 series rifles had adjustable sights with a fixed battle zero
>> sight. Most models of rifles made just before or during WWII had fixed
>> sights. The exception to this was the M41 model. From a user
>> standpoint the WWII era Carcano's sights are the model of
>> effectiveness and simplicity. The early model M91 version rifles with
>> the fixed battle sight being at 300 meters was probably not the
>> greatest decision but reflected the trend of that time. With this
>> sight setting the rifles would have a maximum height of trajectory of
>> approximately 15"-17" at a range of 175 to 200 yards, depending on
>> barrel length. I suspect more than one Austrian soldiers life was
>> spared in WWI because someone shot over his head.
>>> The ammo of course is an even more *interesting* issue that I am still
>>> looking into.
>> Diameter. I have three different brands of ammo, each with a different
>> bullet diameter. Which one shoots better, the 0.256, 0.264, or 0.268?
>>> John F.
>>> "claviger" <historiae.fi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> On Nov 7, 12:11 pm, Bill Clarke <Bill_mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>>> In article
>>>> claviger says...
>>>> >MANNLICHER CARCANO CARBINE
>>>> >http://www.vincelewis.net/mannlichercarcano.html- 17k - similar
>>>> >pagesOct 5, 2012 ... Originally issued to the Italian army, it was an
>>>> >ideal, light weight and ... Below, on the left is shown the Mannlicher
>>>> >Carcano 6.5mm bullet and on the right a ... but too much oil then
>>>> >attracts sand and dirt particles that can only ...
>>>> >Shooting the "Other" 6.5mm's
>>>> >http://www.chuckhawks.com/other_6-5mm.htm- 17k - similar pagesThe
>>>> >6.5x54 Mannlicher-Schoenauer, 6.5x52 Carcano and 6.5x50 Arisaka ... So
>>>> >long as the hunter does his part with regard to proper bullet
>>>> >placement ... 6mm Remington and .257 Roberts, which are limited to
>>>> >bullets weighing 87 to 120 grains. ... all their reports and all
>>>> >insist it to be a much more reliable load than the .30-30.
>>>> I think we need to remember that while a 160 grain bullet may be better
>>>> for killing a bear it certainly isn't required to kill a man, as the 55
>>>> grain M-16 round was to later clearly demonstrate.
>>>> For the range Oswald was shooting he would have been much better off
>>>> a Winchester or Remington bolt rifle in .243 or .257 shooting a 100
>>>> Bill Clarke
>>> Agreed. Only a rank amateur would attempt an assassination with a
>>> military surplus rifle. A pro would make sure they had the right kind
>>> of rifle for a hit on such an important target.