Gaeton Fonzi obituary in NY Times

[Peter Fokes]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/12/us/gaeton-fonzi-76-investigated-kennedy-assassination.html


Peter Fokes

[John Fiorentino]

The guy was a bulldog and I respect that.

R.I.P

John F.


"Peter Fokes" <pfo...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Peter Fokes

[Herbert Blenner]

On Sep 11, 7:52 pm, Peter Fokes <pfo...@rogers.com> wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/12/us/gaeton-fonzi-76-investigated-ken...
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> Peter Fokes

‘The agency never told Mr. Blakey that the agent, George Joannides,
had overseen a group of anti-Castro Cuban exiles in Dallas in the
months before the assassination, when Oswald had two well-publicized
clashes with them.”

I doubt that Joannides had an oversight that stretched from New
Orleans to Dallas.

Herbert

[Anthony Marsh]

On 9/13/2012 9:53 PM, Herbert Blenner wrote:
> On Sep 11, 7:52 pm, Peter Fokes <pfo...@rogers.com> wrote:
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/12/us/gaeton-fonzi-76-investigated-ken...
>>
>> Peter Fokes
>

> �The agency never told Mr. Blakey that the agent, George Joannides,

> had overseen a group of anti-Castro Cuban exiles in Dallas in the
> months before the assassination, when Oswald had two well-publicized

> clashes with them.�

>
> I doubt that Joannides had an oversight that stretched from New
> Orleans to Dallas.
>
> Herbert
>

The whole DRE.

[John McAdams]

On 13 Sep 2012 21:53:34 -0400, Herbert Blenner <a1e...@verizon.net>
wrote:

That's a good point. Morley wants to assume that he *must* have known
something sinister, but actually has no evidence for that.

.John
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[Herbert Blenner]

On Sep 13, 11:11 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 9/13/2012 9:53 PM, Herbert Blenner wrote:
>
> > On Sep 11, 7:52 pm, Peter Fokes <pfo...@rogers.com> wrote:
> >>http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/12/us/gaeton-fonzi-76-investigated-ken...
>
> >> Peter Fokes
>

> > ‘The agency never told Mr. Blakey that the agent, George Joannides,

> > had overseen a group of anti-Castro Cuban exiles in Dallas in the
> > months before the assassination, when Oswald had two well-publicized

> > clashes with them.”

>
> > I doubt that Joannides had an oversight that stretched from New
> > Orleans to Dallas.
>
> > Herbert
>
> The whole DRE.

Where did Oswald have the clashes with the DRE?

[Canuck]

On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 4:52:54 PM UTC-7, Peter Fokes wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/12/us/gaeton-fonzi-76-investigated-kennedy-assassination.html Peter Fokes

I'm sorry to learn of the death of Gaeton Fonzi, who was certainly a major
force during the HSCA investigation. I was most impressed with his book
THE LAST INVESTIGATION. I make reference to Gaeton in regard to the late
Curtis Craford, aka Larry Crafard (who died in March, 2011) in my article
"Creating A Patsy" (midway through it - section 8, starting with "During
the course of my research..."). It is available at:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/creatingapatsy.htm. - Peter R. Whitmey

[Anthony Marsh]

On 9/13/2012 11:20 PM, John McAdams wrote:
> On 13 Sep 2012 21:53:34 -0400, Herbert Blenner <a1e...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 11, 7:52 pm, Peter Fokes <pfo...@rogers.com> wrote:
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/12/us/gaeton-fonzi-76-investigated-ken...
>>>
>>> Peter Fokes
>>

>> �The agency never told Mr. Blakey that the agent, George Joannides,

>> had overseen a group of anti-Castro Cuban exiles in Dallas in the
>> months before the assassination, when Oswald had two well-publicized

>> clashes with them.�

>>
>> I doubt that Joannides had an oversight that stretched from New
>> Orleans to Dallas.
>>
>
> That's a good point. Morley wants to assume that he *must* have known
> something sinister, but actually has no evidence for that.
>

This is not about what Johannides knew. This is only about the CIA not
being honest.

> .John
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>

[David Emerling]

In the article, Fonzi's wife, about her husband, is quoted as saying, "He
thought the murder of President Kennedy was a turning point in history. He
said it was the point when the American people stopped trusting their
government."

I would contend that Watergate, not the Kennedy assassination, had a far
bigger impact on the American people's distrust of government.

The extent to which the notion of our government's complicity in the
Kennedy assassination (whether through a direct assassination or a
cover-up of the truth) has caused cynicism and distrust on the part of
public can be placed at the feet of the conspiracy community itself. They
have themselves to blame - ironically, people like Gaeton Fonzi.

David Emerling
Memphis, TN

[John Fiorentino]

Anthony:

I have to agree with you again Tony!!

John F.


"Anthony Marsh" <anthon...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:5053...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu...

> On 9/13/2012 11:20 PM, John McAdams wrote:
>> On 13 Sep 2012 21:53:34 -0400, Herbert Blenner <a1e...@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 11, 7:52 pm, Peter Fokes <pfo...@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/12/us/gaeton-fonzi-76-investigated-ken...
>>>>
>>>> Peter Fokes
>>>

>>> ‘The agency never told Mr. Blakey that the agent, George Joannides,

>>> had overseen a group of anti-Castro Cuban exiles in Dallas in the
>>> months before the assassination, when Oswald had two well-publicized

>>> clashes with them.”

[John McAdams]

On 14 Sep 2012 18:45:17 -0400, Anthony Marsh

<anthon...@comcast.net> wrote:

>On 9/13/2012 11:20 PM, John McAdams wrote:
>> On 13 Sep 2012 21:53:34 -0400, Herbert Blenner <a1e...@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 11, 7:52 pm, Peter Fokes <pfo...@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/12/us/gaeton-fonzi-76-investigated-ken...
>>>>
>>>> Peter Fokes
>>>

>>> �The agency never told Mr. Blakey that the agent, George Joannides,

>>> had overseen a group of anti-Castro Cuban exiles in Dallas in the
>>> months before the assassination, when Oswald had two well-publicized

>>> clashes with them.�

>>>
>>> I doubt that Joannides had an oversight that stretched from New
>>> Orleans to Dallas.
>>>
>>
>> That's a good point. Morley wants to assume that he *must* have known
>> something sinister, but actually has no evidence for that.
>>
>
>This is not about what Johannides knew. This is only about the CIA not
>being honest.
>

So you are admitting that Morley is not onto any conspiracy.

Thank you.

That's the conspiracy fallback: when forced to admit that something
isn't any sort of conspiracy evidence, they bash officials.

.John
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[Donald Roberdeau]

On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 7:52:54 PM UTC-4, Peter Fokes wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/12/us/gaeton-fonzi-76-investigated-kennedy-assassination.html
>
>
>
>
>
> Peter Fokes

.... Good Day.... Many years ago I contacted Mr. Fonzi for the first time
to then provide the online transcript of his 1980 Washingtonian article's
original manuscript (that manuscript led to his followup writing of his
excellent book, "The Last Investigation"). I posted the transcript of his
manuscript via the now-defunct AOL FTP service. I just checked the WayBack
archives, and that transcript is still available for everyone for saving
(complete with Gaeton's original spelling and grammar mistakes in his
manuscript).. ..

http://web.archive.org/web/20050209021259/members.aol.com/DRoberdeau/JFK/LASTinvestigation.html


I had the honor a few times (not enough!) of sharing some of his thoughts
and sharing my thoughts about the elimination of President Kennedy. (and
suggested to Gaeton, once, in the late 1990's or early 2000's that he
write another book).

Rest in peace, Sir.


Best Regards in Research,

Don


Donald Roberdeau
U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker
Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly

For your key considerations + independent determinations....

Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and
Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding
Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html

Dealey Plaza Map Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations,
Evidence, Witnesses, Films & Photos, Suspected bullet trajectories,
Important information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource
(updated map coming in 2012).... http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/2192/dpupdated110110.gif

Visual Report: "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While
JFK was Still Hidden Under the 'Magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2446/206cropjfk1102308ms8.gif

Visual Report: Reality versus C.A.D. :
the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8543/realityvscad.gif

Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS;
Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Head Snap: West, Ultrafast, and
Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html


T ogether
E veryone
A chieves
M ore

For the United States:

http://www.nationalterroralert.com/advisory7regional.gif

http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

[Anthony Marsh]

He hasn't been able to prove anything yet because the CIA keeps
withholding the files. Isn't that how your cover-up works?

> .John
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>

[Anthony Marsh]

On 9/14/2012 11:09 PM, David Emerling wrote:
> In the article, Fonzi's wife, about her husband, is quoted as saying, "He
> thought the murder of President Kennedy was a turning point in history. He
> said it was the point when the American people stopped trusting their
> government."
>
> I would contend that Watergate, not the Kennedy assassination, had a far
> bigger impact on the American people's distrust of government.
>

You seem a little confused. Watergate was a conspiracy BY the government
against political opponents. Run by the President himself.
Most people allege only that the JFK assassination was a conspiracy
AGAINST the government, not by the President himself, but against the
President. In both conspiracies the entire apparatus of the US
government was used to cover up the conspiracy.

> The extent to which the notion of our government's complicity in the
> Kennedy assassination (whether through a direct assassination or a
> cover-up of the truth) has caused cynicism and distrust on the part of
> public can be placed at the feet of the conspiracy community itself. They
> have themselves to blame - ironically, people like Gaeton Fonzi.
>

Sick. Pathetic. Now you are blaming the JFK assassination on the
victims. Is there no dirty underhanded trick you won't try? All to
protect your beloved CIA.

> David Emerling
> Memphis, TN
>

[John Fiorentino]

Joannides funneling info. to the HSCA? Yeah, that doesn't smell much.

John F.


"John McAdams" <john.m...@marquette.edu> wrote in message
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[Canuck]

On Friday, September 14, 2012 8:21:03 PM UTC-7, Donald Roberdeau wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 7:52:54 PM UTC-4, Peter Fokes wrote: > http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/12/us/gaeton-fonzi-76-investigated-kennedy-assassination.html > > > > > > Peter Fokes .... Good Day.... Many years ago I contacted Mr. Fonzi for the first time to then provide the online transcript of his 1980 Washingtonian article's original manuscript (that manuscript led to his followup writing of his excellent book, "The Last Investigation"). I posted the transcript of his manuscript via the now-defunct AOL FTP service. I just checked the WayBack archives, and that transcript is still available for everyone for saving (complete with Gaeton's original spelling and grammar mistakes in his manuscript)..= .. http://web.archive.org/web/20050209021259/members.aol.com/DRoberdeau/JFK/LASTinvestigation.html I had the honor a few times (not enough!) of sharing some of his thoughts and sharing my thoughts about the elimination of President Kennedy. (and suggested to Gaeton, once, in the late 1990's or early 2000's that he write another book). Rest in peace, Sir. Best Regards in Research, Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations + independent determinations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html Dealey Plaza Map Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Evidence, Witnesses, Films & Photos, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource (updated map coming in 2012).... http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/2192/dpupdated110110.gif Visual Report: "The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the 'Magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2446/206cropjfk1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8543/realityvscad.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS; Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Head Snap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.nationalterroralert.com/advisory7regional.gif http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

Thanks, Don, for making Fonzi's lengthy article (197 pages) available to
the newsgroup. - prwhitmey (Canuck)