The 6.5 mm as a hunting bullet

[claviger]

6.5mm Rifle Cartridges - CHUCKHAWKS.COM
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pagesIt is what allows 6.5mm bullets to get deep inside of even large
animals, ... shot they are adequate for game from the size of the
smaller African antelope and ...

6.5mm Cartridge Family - CHUCKHAWKS.COM
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Hawks shares information about the North American 6.5mm (.264) ... For
most big game hunting, the 6.5mm cartridges are probably at their best
with ... bullets that will easily penetrate to the vitals of any CXP2
game animal, they ... used to harvest practically every game animal in
the world, including African elephants!

Shooting the "Other" 6.5mm's - CHUCKHAWKS.COM
http://www.chuckhawks.com/other_6-5mm.htm - 19k - similar pages6.5mm (.
264) bullets are available in a multitude of styles and weights
suitable for everything from varmints to all but the heaviest big
game. ... round nosed bullets, they have also killed their fair share
of moose, polar bear, African lion ... killed some very large animals
with his 6.5 Mannlicher, including a coastal brown bear.

6.5mm, .270 and 7mm: The Golden Mean in Hunting Calibers
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pages6.5mm, .270 and 7mm encompass what most of us at Guns and
Shooting Online ... these cartridges use serious big game hunting
weight bullets, typically about 120 to ... (The 7x57 is especially
admired in southern Africa, where it has been in ... That allows shots
on big game animals to around 300 yards without holding ...

Hunting Bullet Guide, Part One: Caliber and Weight
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pagesFor hunting big game animals, buy bullets specifically intended
for the purpose. ... (CXP4 class) dangerous game animals, principally
African rhinos and elephants. ... 6.5mm caliber (.264" diameter)
bullets of less than 100 grains are usually ...

The Killing Power Of Big Game Bullets - CHUCKHAWKS.COM
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similar pagesFor large game, bullets with higher sectional density
should be chosen. Good examples of such bullets would be the 140
grain .26 (6.5mm), SD=.287; 150 grain ...

Sensible Rifle Cartridges - CHUCKHAWKS.COM
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pages120 grains is the lightest 6.5mm bullet normally used for big
game hunting. ... with 140 grain bullets can take most of the big game
animals in North America. ... WDM Bell used to kill the many of the
1000 or so elephants he shot in East Africa.

MATCHING THE GUN TO THE GAME - CHUCKHAWKS.COM
http://www.chuckhawks.com/gun_game.htm - 27k - similar pagesFor large
CXP3 class game, deep penetrating, delayed expansion bullets ...
sheep, caribou, boar and feral pigs and several species of Indian and
African antelope. ... 120-140 grain in 6.5mm, 130 grain in .270
caliber, 125-150 grain in 7mm, ...

8 Underrated Long-Range Cartridges - Guns & Ammo
http://www.gunsandammo.com/2012/11/07/8-underrated-long-range-cartridges/
- 112k - similar pagesNov 7, 2012 ... For big game you want plenty of
accuracy, but with a good barrel ... Because of their traditionally
long, heavy-for-caliber bullets, the 6.5mm carries extremely
well . .... With dreams of Africa and Alaska… ... When one understands
the habits of game animals the close range shot is the norm not the
exception.

Bench Rest Magnum Cartridges - E. Arthur Brown Co.
http://www.eabco.com/Reports/report03.html - 45k - similar pagesThe
BRM series of cartridges were developed to give big game hunting
performance in ... The 140 gr 6.5mm bullet compares to a 190 gr 30
caliber bullet in deadly impact. ... Some say it was even used to kill
elephants in Africa! ... BRM) works in the same way to produce more
"Hang Time" as it passes through animal tissue.

[Anthony Marsh]

> well . .... With dreams of Africa and Alaska� ... When one understands

> the habits of game animals the close range shot is the norm not the
> exception.
>
> Bench Rest Magnum Cartridges - E. Arthur Brown Co.
> http://www.eabco.com/Reports/report03.html - 45k - similar pagesThe
> BRM series of cartridges were developed to give big game hunting
> performance in ... The 140 gr 6.5mm bullet compares to a 190 gr 30
> caliber bullet in deadly impact. ... Some say it was even used to kill
> elephants in Africa! ... BRM) works in the same way to produce more
> "Hang Time" as it passes through animal tissue.
>

That's why it is illegal to use FMJ bullets to hunt SMALL game in many
areas, because after it goes through the deer like butter it travels a
half mile and kills granny doing the dishes at the kitchen window.

[Bill Clarke]

In article <362be9c7-959c-4b3d...@v14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
claviger says...

The 6.5 or .264 never took off in America. Winchester made a .264 magnum
that was very hot but it was never popular. I don't believe any of the
major U.S. companies make rifles for the .264 anymore.

This certainly doesn't mean the bullet was lacking because it has a good
B.C and turns in excellent performance. There are numerous wildcats based
on the 6.5.

Bill Clarke

>grain .26 (6.5mm), SD=3D.287; 150 grain ...

>
>Sensible Rifle Cartridges - CHUCKHAWKS.COM
>http://www.chuckhawks.com/sensible_cartridges.htm - 25k - similar
>pages120 grains is the lightest 6.5mm bullet normally used for big
>game hunting. ... with 140 grain bullets can take most of the big game
>animals in North America. ... WDM Bell used to kill the many of the
>1000 or so elephants he shot in East Africa.
>
>MATCHING THE GUN TO THE GAME - CHUCKHAWKS.COM
>http://www.chuckhawks.com/gun_game.htm - 27k - similar pagesFor large
>CXP3 class game, deep penetrating, delayed expansion bullets ...
>sheep, caribou, boar and feral pigs and several species of Indian and
>African antelope. ... 120-140 grain in 6.5mm, 130 grain in .270
>caliber, 125-150 grain in 7mm, ...
>
>8 Underrated Long-Range Cartridges - Guns & Ammo
>http://www.gunsandammo.com/2012/11/07/8-underrated-long-range-cartridges/
>- 112k - similar pagesNov 7, 2012 ... For big game you want plenty of
>accuracy, but with a good barrel ... Because of their traditionally
>long, heavy-for-caliber bullets, the 6.5mm carries extremely

>well . .... With dreams of Africa and Alaska=85 ... When one understands

[claviger]

On May 8, 11:30 pm, Bill Clarke <Bill_mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> In article <362be9c7-959c-4b3d-b6f9-c131a9889...@v14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,

> claviger says...
>
> The 6.5 or .264 never took off in America.  Winchester made a .264 magnum
> that was very hot but it was never popular.  I don't believe any of the
> major U.S. companies make rifles for the .264 anymore.
>
> This certainly doesn't mean the bullet was lacking because it has a good
> B.C and turns in excellent performance.  There are numerous wildcats based
> on the 6.5.
>
> Bill Clarke

I have a friend from way down in south Texas where they have Muy Grandes
and wide open spaces. My friend, a former Army Captain, inherited a .264
rifle from his father. It was his dad's favorite rifle and became his
favorite too.

[Anthony Marsh]

On 5/9/2013 12:30 AM, Bill Clarke wrote:
> In article <362be9c7-959c-4b3d...@v14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> claviger says...
>
> The 6.5 or .264 never took off in America. Winchester made a .264 magnum
> that was very hot but it was never popular. I don't believe any of the
> major U.S. companies make rifles for the .264 anymore.
>
> This certainly doesn't mean the bullet was lacking because it has a good
> B.C and turns in excellent performance. There are numerous wildcats based
> on the 6.5.
>
> Bill Clarke
>
>

Apples and oranges. The Carcano was not a Magnum.
The WCC ammo was .268 not .264. The .264 ammo is usually inaccurate.

[Bill Clarke]

In article <518b0fda$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>, Anthony Marsh says...

>> well . .... With dreams of Africa and Alaska� ... When one understands

>> the habits of game animals the close range shot is the norm not the
>> exception.
>>
>> Bench Rest Magnum Cartridges - E. Arthur Brown Co.
>> http://www.eabco.com/Reports/report03.html - 45k - similar pagesThe
>> BRM series of cartridges were developed to give big game hunting
>> performance in ... The 140 gr 6.5mm bullet compares to a 190 gr 30
>> caliber bullet in deadly impact. ... Some say it was even used to kill
>> elephants in Africa! ... BRM) works in the same way to produce more
>> "Hang Time" as it passes through animal tissue.
>>
>
>That's why it is illegal to use FMJ bullets to hunt SMALL game in many
>areas, because after it goes through the deer like butter it travels a
>half mile and kills granny doing the dishes at the kitchen window.

I wish that if you plan to continue to preach about ballistics, marksmanship and
now hunting that you at least learn something, at least the basics, about these
subjects.

The reason FMJ bullets are outlawed for hunting small game is the same reason
they are mandated for military use; to be as humane as we can be while killing
people and animals; odd as that might sound I'll admit.

Any discussion about the merits of soft point bullets over FMJ bullets while
hunting small game would be wasted on you. If any not-hunter or non-shooter
here would like an explanation I'll be happy to oblige.

Bill Clarke

[Bill Clarke]

In article <db6a7f13-b280-40c4...@s18g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>,
claviger says...
>
>On May 8, 11:30=A0pm, Bill Clarke <Bill_mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>> In article <362be9c7-959c-4b3d-b6f9-c131a9889...@v14g2000yqm.googlegroups=
>.com>,
>> claviger says...
>>
>> The 6.5 or .264 never took off in America. =A0Winchester made a .264 magn=
>um
>> that was very hot but it was never popular. =A0I don't believe any of the

>> major U.S. companies make rifles for the .264 anymore.
>>
>> This certainly doesn't mean the bullet was lacking because it has a good

>> B.C and turns in excellent performance. =A0There are numerous wildcats based

>> on the 6.5.
>>
>> Bill Clarke
>
>I have a friend from way down in south Texas where they have Muy Grandes
>and wide open spaces. My friend, a former Army Captain, inherited a .264
>rifle from his father. It was his dad's favorite rifle and became his
>favorite too.
>
>

I have a friend that has two Winchester .264 magnums and I worked up hand loads
for him. A very good rifle and I never understood why it didn't become very
popular.

Bill Clarke

[claviger]

On May 9, 4:33 pm, Bill Clarke <Bill_mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> In article <db6a7f13-b280-40c4-bb89-e2254ed96...@s18g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>,

Probably the widespread popularity of .270 rifles. They replaced the .
30-06 as the favorite hunting rifle for deer hunters. Even so, my
friend's father loved his .264 hunting rifle the best.

[John Fiorentino]

The correct round for the 91/38 is the .268.

Accuracy and other issues emerge with using .264

John F.



"Bill Clarke" <Bill_...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:kmf6c...@drn.newsguy.com...

[John Fiorentino]

Anthony finally gets something right!

Congratulations.

John F.




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news:518ba90a$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu...

[Bill Clarke]

In article <bb2f0a88-a786-4ed0...@a8g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,
claviger says...
>
>On May 9, 4:33=A0pm, Bill Clarke <Bill_mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>> In article <db6a7f13-b280-40c4-bb89-e2254ed96...@s18g2000yqg.googlegroups=
>.com>,
>> claviger says...
>>
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>> >On May 8, 11:30=3DA0pm, Bill Clarke <Bill_mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>> >> In article <362be9c7-959c-4b3d-b6f9-c131a9889...@v14g2000yqm.googlegro=
>ups=3D
>> >.com>,
>> >> claviger says...
>>
>> >> The 6.5 or .264 never took off in America. =3DA0Winchester made a .264=
> magn=3D
>> >um
>> >> that was very hot but it was never popular. =3DA0I don't believe any o=

>f the
>> >> major U.S. companies make rifles for the .264 anymore.
>>

>> >> This certainly doesn't mean the bullet was lacking because it has a go=
>od
>> >> B.C and turns in excellent performance. =3DA0There are numerous wildca=

>ts based
>> >> on the 6.5.
>>
>> >> Bill Clarke
>>
>> >I have a friend from way down in south Texas where they have Muy Grandes
>> >and wide open spaces. My friend, a former Army Captain, inherited a .264

>> >rifle from his father. =A0It was his dad's favorite rifle and became his
>> >favorite too.
>>
>> I have a friend that has two Winchester .264 magnums and I worked up hand=
> loads
>> for him. =A0A very good rifle and I never understood why it didn't become=

> very
>> popular.
>>
>> Bill Clarke
>
>Probably the widespread popularity of .270 rifles. They replaced the .
>30-06 as the favorite hunting rifle for deer hunters. Even so, my
>friend's father loved his .264 hunting rifle the best.

I think that had a lot to do with it. Hard to replace the .270.

Bill Clarke

[Bill Clarke]

In article <518c27ab$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>, John Fiorentino says...

>
>Anthony finally gets something right!
>
>Congratulations.
>
>John F.

I might pour a little Black Jack to celebrate.

Bill Clarke

[Anthony Marsh]

>>> well . .... With dreams of Africa and Alaska� ... When one understands

>>> the habits of game animals the close range shot is the norm not the
>>> exception.
>>>
>>> Bench Rest Magnum Cartridges - E. Arthur Brown Co.
>>> http://www.eabco.com/Reports/report03.html - 45k - similar pagesThe
>>> BRM series of cartridges were developed to give big game hunting
>>> performance in ... The 140 gr 6.5mm bullet compares to a 190 gr 30
>>> caliber bullet in deadly impact. ... Some say it was even used to kill
>>> elephants in Africa! ... BRM) works in the same way to produce more
>>> "Hang Time" as it passes through animal tissue.
>>>
>>
>> That's why it is illegal to use FMJ bullets to hunt SMALL game in many
>> areas, because after it goes through the deer like butter it travels a
>> half mile and kills granny doing the dishes at the kitchen window.
>
> I wish that if you plan to continue to preach about ballistics, marksmanship and
> now hunting that you at least learn something, at least the basics, about these
> subjects.
>

More BS.

> The reason FMJ bullets are outlawed for hunting small game is the same reason
> they are mandated for military use; to be as humane as we can be while killing
> people and animals; odd as that might sound I'll admit.
>

Something like that. Killing a big game animal with a FMJ bullet is both
humane and practical. You can also use a FMJ to kill small animals, but
it is illegal in many places because the bullet will not stay in the
target. Exiting the animal it can pose a risk to people
down range. In war you don't care about that if your one bullet kills or
injures several enemy soldiers.

> Any discussion about the merits of soft point bullets over FMJ bullets while
> hunting small game would be wasted on you. If any not-hunter or non-shooter
> here would like an explanation I'll be happy to oblige.
>

We are not impressed by your bluffing.

> Bill Clarke
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[Bill Clarke]

In article <518c7a25$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>, Anthony Marsh says...

>>>> well . .... With dreams of Africa and Alaska? ... When one understands

We? You got a mouse in your pocket? And I'm betting that you are highly
impressed with your crap. "WE" are not.

Bill Clarke