BREAKING NEWS---JFK video
borings
SOLVED*******************
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE8b2CCDPqw
Vince Palamara
http://www.google.com/profiles/vincepalamara
Bill
Hi Vince,
I have your manuscript & books on the secret service, I just wanted
to know your thought of where the ss made there mistakes, was it the trip
to Texas? or Dallas motorcade? The binge drinking at the Cellar the night
before by the ss? I know these all played a roll in the assassination but
the assassin or assassin"s got very lucky everything went their way, open
limo, windows open in buildings, why hell if you think Oswald did it ,
jfk's car drives in front of the building lee work's at, how lucky is
that? I guess what i'm trying to say is jfk could of been shot anytime on
that trip, or the day before, by someone up in a office building, with a
rifle or at love field with a hand gun, when he went to shake hands at the
fence. I think there some blame on the ss as, the slow reaction, after the
shots, but kennedy was sitting in that open car, I don't know if they
could have of prevented it, I guess you could say the cars should of been
moving faster. When Obama, got elected & during the parade, got out of the
car and started walking with his wife I got very tense & though to myself,
when will they ever learn.
Bill
yeuhd
> I have your manuscript & books on the secret service, I just wanted
> to know your thought of where the ss made there mistakes, was it the trip
> to Texas? or Dallas motorcade? The binge drinking at the Cellar the night
> before by the ss?
Not by the Secret Service agents. The only person who appeared
intoxicated to witnesses who were interviewed turned out to be a White
House staffer.
http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh18/pdf/WH18_CE_1019.pdf
Even columnist Drew Pearson, who broke the story on November 30, 1963,
never claimed the Secret Service agents were binge drinking or drunk.
Thalia
I don't doubt that the Secret Service were complict (at worst) or
incompetent (at best) in the assassination, but I don't think the
assassination has been 'solved.' Interesting to see that you are still
a "CTer" Seriously, how could you be anything else??????
tomnln
http://whokilledjfk.net/secret_service_drinking.htm
Read it & WEEP ! ! !
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jas
A tad presumptuous, wouldn't you say, naming your post this? Funny thing
is that when someone uses this as a title, one KNOWS it's not true.
Stating the SS was solely to blame for the assassination is way too
simplistic. Yes the SS was charged to protect the POTUS, but many factors
came together on Nov 22, 1963 that enabled the final mechanism to click
into place.
1) JFK's desire to be close to the people in an open car passing
underneath tall office buildings, and having the SS men standing on the
follow-up car instead of his. (not to mention his closeness to the crowd
generally, like his hand-shaking in the crowds at Love),
2) The slowdown to make the turn at Elm and Houston,
3) Oswald being able to sneak a high powered weapon into the TSBD by
breaking it down, get it to the 6th floor which was empty of personnel at
the time before and during the shooting, reassemble it, and get 3 shots
off without being detected in time to stop him,
4) The route of Elm St. moving away from the TSBD, making the target
easier to hit (you better believe Oswald had that target and trajectory
figured out at least a couple days before).
5) The plan for the motorcade to move slowly through downtown Dallas in
the first place -- a known hostile city from what happened to Adlai
Stevenson.
6) The rain stopping that morning, making the target easier. By fate, it
could have just as well rained during the motorcade, thereby thwarting an
assassination attempt.
7) Oswald's employment at the TSBD, long before his knowledge of any
motorcade passing in front, making it easier for him to be there without
questions.
8) The FBI and Hosty "dropping the ball' with their surveillance of
Oswald, possibly throwing away the chance to thwart an attempt.
9) Marina not telling the police about Oswald's shooting at Walker. By
doing so, he more than likely would have been booked and jailed on
attempted murder charges, rendering his intentions useless. And, no
bonding out would have occurred because of the seriousness of the charges,
and the fact that Oswald was simply broke.
10) Oswald's accurate shooting. He might have missed entirely, or just
wounded JFK superficially.
The list could go on and on.
It's just like when a major air disaster occurs. Usually there are several
factors that come into play that ends up bringing it down, not just one.
yeuhd
> HERE is Rowley's testimony....http://whokilledjfk.net/secret_service_drinking.htm
>
> Read it & WEEP ! ! !
Doesn't say anything about binge drinking or drunkeness, does it? You're
trying to substitute one issue (whether Secret Service agents are allowed
to have any drinks while on duty) for another (whether any Secret Service
agents were binge drinking or drunk).
tomnln
I didn't use the term "binge drinking".
Someone else did ! ! !
The point of the report is that they DID "Break the Rules".
Anthony Marsh
> On Nov 21, 10:03 am, borings<vincebet...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> BREAKING NEWS-11/21/09: PRESIDENT KENNEDY'S ASSASSINATION
>> SOLVED*******************
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE8b2CCDPqw
>>
>> Vince Palamarahttp://www.google.com/profiles/vincepalamara
>
> A tad presumptuous, wouldn't you say, naming your post this? Funny thing
> is that when someone uses this as a title, one KNOWS it's not true.
>
> Stating the SS was solely to blame for the assassination is way too
> simplistic. Yes the SS was charged to protect the POTUS, but many factors
> came together on Nov 22, 1963 that enabled the final mechanism to click
> into place.
>
I warned Vince many years ago that he was on the wrong path. I can
accept the idea that SS incompetence contributed to the success of the
conspirators, but it is ridiculous to then claim this proves that the SS
was part of the conspiracy.
> 1) JFK's desire to be close to the people in an open car passing
JFK said just that morning that the SS could not prevent a person from
shooting from an office building.
> underneath tall office buildings, and having the SS men standing on the
> follow-up car instead of his. (not to mention his closeness to the crowd
> generally, like his hand-shaking in the crowds at Love),
>
Close, but it is not a case of either/or. They used both the SS men on
the running boards of the SS follow up car and a couple of SS agents on
the back of the Presidential limousine. Kennedy did not like that and
ordered them off.
> 2) The slowdown to make the turn at Elm and Houston,
>
> 3) Oswald being able to sneak a high powered weapon into the TSBD by
> breaking it down, get it to the 6th floor which was empty of personnel at
I don't see where Oswald needs to break down the rifle to smuggle it
into the TSBD. No one but Frazier saw him carry anything into the TSBD.
If Frazier thought it was curtain rods and not a rifle, another couple
of inches longer would make no difference.
> the time before and during the shooting, reassemble it, and get 3 shots
> off without being detected in time to stop him,
>
> 4) The route of Elm St. moving away from the TSBD, making the target
> easier to hit (you better believe Oswald had that target and trajectory
> figured out at least a couple days before).
>
That's the way Elm runs, one-way away from the TSBD.
> 5) The plan for the motorcade to move slowly through downtown Dallas in
> the first place -- a known hostile city from what happened to Adlai
> Stevenson.
>
Not THAT slowly. The motorcade was running late. It should normally take
an average of 15 MPH, but it slowed down on Elm.
> 6) The rain stopping that morning, making the target easier. By fate, it
> could have just as well rained during the motorcade, thereby thwarting an
> assassination attempt.
So your theory is that no one can be shot while it is raining?
Have the Mythbusters tested this?
>
> 7) Oswald's employment at the TSBD, long before his knowledge of any
> motorcade passing in front, making it easier for him to be there without
> questions.
>
He was questioned. And let go.
> 8) The FBI and Hosty "dropping the ball' with their surveillance of
> Oswald, possibly throwing away the chance to thwart an attempt.
>
Not clear what Hosty could have done.
Not investigating the Walker shooting more thoroughly is a bigger problem.
> 9) Marina not telling the police about Oswald's shooting at Walker. By
> doing so, he more than likely would have been booked and jailed on
> attempted murder charges, rendering his intentions useless. And, no
> bonding out would have occurred because of the seriousness of the charges,
> and the fact that Oswald was simply broke.
>
> 10) Oswald's accurate shooting. He might have missed entirely, or just
> wounded JFK superficially.
>
> The list could go on and on.
>
> It's just like when a major air disaster occurs. Usually there are several
> factors that come into play that ends up bringing it down, not just one.
>
That's why you have an insurance shooter on the grassy knoll.
jas
Yes, as I said. JFK didn't want them on his car.
>
> > 2) The slowdown to make the turn at Elm and Houston,
>
> > 3) Oswald being able to sneak a high powered weapon into the TSBD by
> > breaking it down, get it to the 6th floor which was empty of personnel at
>
> I don't see where Oswald needs to break down the rifle to smuggle it
> into the TSBD. No one but Frazier saw him carry anything into the TSBD.
> If Frazier thought it was curtain rods and not a rifle, another couple
> of inches longer would make no difference.
Seeing as how the bag's length was too short for the fully assembled
Carcano length, logic dictates it was broken down.
>
> > the time before and during the shooting, reassemble it, and get 3 shots
> > off without being detected in time to stop him,
>
> > 4) The route of Elm St. moving away from the TSBD, making the target
> > easier to hit (you better believe Oswald had that target and trajectory
> > figured out at least a couple days before).
>
> That's the way Elm runs, one-way away from the TSBD.
Yes, one more piece of a successful assassination that day, as I
pointed out.
>
> > 5) The plan for the motorcade to move slowly through downtown Dallas in
> > the first place -- a known hostile city from what happened to Adlai
> > Stevenson.
>
> Not THAT slowly. The motorcade was running late. It should normally take
> an average of 15 MPH, but it slowed down on Elm.
>
> > 6) The rain stopping that morning, making the target easier. By fate, it
> > could have just as well rained during the motorcade, thereby thwarting an
> > assassination attempt.
>
> So your theory is that no one can be shot while it is raining?
> Have the Mythbusters tested this?
Maybe. But with the bubbletop on, general reduced visability that a
wet and cloudy day brings, and many umbrellas open along Elm, the
target would be more difficult, as you know.
>
>
>
> > 7) Oswald's employment at the TSBD, long before his knowledge of any
> > motorcade passing in front, making it easier for him to be there without
> > questions.
>
> He was questioned. And let go.
Yes, let go-- because he was an employee. Precisely my point.