DAVID VON PEIN:
But Ralph -- it's ALL THE SAME FILM. And Lovelady is clearly visible each
time the film is shown (regardless of how many seconds of the film are
being shown).
So -- what's your point anyway?
RALPH CINQUE:
I know he's visible in every version, but he looks different; he's dressed
different (with the shirt either propped open or cinched) his hair is
combed different (combed straight back or parted and combed over) and he
acts differently (either turned left and frozen that way or spinning
around in a wide turn to the right). So just because who is supposed to be
Lovelady is "clearly visible" doesn't rectify anything.
DAVID VON PEIN:
You're claiming that Lovelady was "added" into the WFAA/DPD film, but
since we can clearly SEE Lovelady in ALL of the different "edited down"
versions of the same film--where are you going with this silly idea that
there are 5 or 6 different "versions" of that DPD film?
RALPH CINQUE:
In the first version, Lovelady was added to the original footage, and I
mean the actual footage of Oswald being led through that room on 11/22/63.
But in the remake, which they did much later, I believe it was a
reenactment. They restaged the whole thing. It was a different actor
playing Lovelady, and he looked nothing like the first guy. Honestly, can
these two guys be taken for the same man?
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/925/collage150.jpg
So, they weren't the same, and neither were the others. They didn't have
Oswald, and they didn't have the big cop. And in the first version, when
they move right to Fritz' door, we can see their faces, at least
partially. And that's why they had to leave that part out of the reenacted
version. Notice in this long sequence that the move to Fritz' door is
omited.
http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o502/Firsk/51ef590f.gif
How come Oswald and the big cop never turn right in the above clip? It's
like they are walking straight into the wall. It's because they couldn't
turn right. They were different men. They couldn't show the part where
they turn right to reach Fritz' door, like here.
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4279/strainingoswald4.jpg
They had to omit it. They could only show those guys heads from the back.
They couldn't have them turning right and revealing their faces. They were
different faces.
DAVID VON PEIN:
Time to give this one up, Ralph. Because all sensible people know that
that DPD film was not faked in order to introduce a phony image of Billy
Lovelady. That notion is just plain screwy and you know it. Particularly
since it's also your theory that the whole reason for adding Lovelady to
the DPD film was to show him in the patterned shirt....which is a shirt
that YOU say Doorway Man IS NOT EVEN WEARING in the Altgens photo!
So the net result of this preposterous hunk of "film fakery" is to
actually EXPOSE the conspiracy that you claim the authorities were
desperately attempting to conceal, because they've put a shirt on
Lovelady's back that YOU say Doorway Man is not even wearing on 11/22!
Can this farce of Cinque's get any sillier than that?
RALPH CINQUE:
You're partially right, David. It's true that Lovelady did not wear that
plaid shirt on 11/22/63. And it's also true that Doorway Man was not
wearing a plaid shirt. And you know who agreed with that? Harold Weisberg.
I know Harold Weisberg is not someone that you respect, but he's someone
that I respect: a lot. Doorman's shirt was NOT checked. That's what Harold
Weisberg said. He even said it to Lovelady's wife.
So, there is that contradiction, but you are missing the point. What that
plaid shirt provided that was so valuable was not the plaidness but the
LONGSLEEVEDNESS. That was the roadblock. That was the dealbreaker. They
could always make an excuse about the discordant shirt patterns, but you
can't make excuses for having the wrong sleeve length. That's what they
were trying to fix wtih this phony movie.
And frankly, there was some stupidity involved. They probably blew up
Doorman's image and saw a varied, contrasting pattern that I call
splotchy. They didn't realize that it was just haze and distortion and
light reflection and nothing else. But, they couldn't come up with a
splotchy pattern because they don't make shirts like that. So, they
settled on plaid. They figured that was close enough. Well, it wasn't.
This isn't horse shoes or hand grenades. Close doesn't cut it. Either it's
an exact match or it isn't. But, this wasn't even close.
But again, the sleeve length was the top priority, and that's what they
were striving to get.
David, it has reached the point that denying Oswald's presence in the
doorway is preposterous. It is starkly evident that it is him and can't be
anyone else. You're shovelling sand to stop the tide. This can't be
stopped. You need to give up. JFK truth is going to win out. It is
inevitable!