Lol, two days ago Mr. Marsh made this astonishing claim about me:
"You have JFK"s fists up by Z-225 and then the bullet hitting Connally at Z-226."
I challenged him yesterday to quote me verbatim saying either of those things from any article I have ever posted. In his reply he absolutely refused to even try to quote such a thing, and instead, as he has so often done, absolutely refused to admit that he had made an obvious mistake about me personally.
I have never once said that JFK already had his fists up by Z225. What I have been saying here for about a decade is that JFK's right hand begins to rise in the following frame, Z226; rather obviously his fists aren't all the way up until quite a few frames later.
Unless it was more than nine years ago in one of my earliest articles to this newsgroup, I have also never once said that Connally was hit at Z226. Instead, for the past nine years at least, I have been saying that that is where his visible reaction begins, as that is the frame where the flip of the hat begins.
I have also frequently said that both men begin to violently jerk at Z226.
In the past decade Mr. Marsh has on hundreds of occasions claimed I said things I've never said, and I have seen him do this to other posters many times as well too. Almost never does he ever apologize to us and admit his mistakes, even when we quote verbatim from our previous articles proving beyond all possible doubt that we didn't say what he claims we said. In fact, I can only recall Mr. Marsh admitting a mistake once, last month, when he admitted that he wasn't following a thread carefully, and thought John Canal was saying that JFK's head was tilted by c.27 degrees at the time of the single bullet, when actually John was saying it was tilted at the time of the head shot.
In stark contrast, I am well-known here for admitting my mistakes, at least when they really are mistakes, and I'm not "wrong" in another poster's opinion only.
I hope I am proven wrong, but I predict that Mr. Marsh will never, ever, ever admit that I never said JFK had his fists up by Z225. I already take very little that he says seriously, but if he does not admit this obvious mistake about me personally I will know to take nothing he says seriously ever again. If he refuses to admit such an obvious mistake about me personally, how do I know that he also hasn't made mistakes about the JFK assassination that he refuses to admit?
> Lol, two days ago Mr. Marsh made this astonishing claim about me:
> "You have JFK"s fists up by Z-225 and then the bullet hitting Connally
> at Z-226."
> I challenged him yesterday to quote me verbatim saying either of those
> things from any article I have ever posted. In his reply he absolutely
> refused to even try to quote such a thing, and instead, as he has so
> often done, absolutely refused to admit that he had made an obvious
> mistake about me personally.
> I have never once said that JFK already had his fists up by Z225. What
> I have been saying here for about a decade is that JFK's right hand
> begins to rise in the following frame, Z226; rather obviously his fists
> aren't all the way up until quite a few frames later.
Still afraid to name your frames, eh?
> Unless it was more than nine years ago in one of my earliest articles to
> this newsgroup, I have also never once said that Connally was hit at
> Z226. Instead, for the past nine years at least, I have been saying
> that that is where his visible reaction begins, as that is the frame
> where the flip of the hat begins.
> I have also frequently said that both men begin to violently jerk at
> Z226.
How can they both begin to violently jerk at Z-226 if you think the bullet hit AFTER Z-226? Are you claiming they were both psychic and reacting out of fear because they knew they were about to be hit?
Lucy, you got a lotta splaining to do.
> In the past decade Mr. Marsh has on hundreds of occasions claimed I said
> things I've never said, and I have seen him do this to other posters
> many times as well too. Almost never does he ever apologize to us and
> admit his mistakes, even when we quote verbatim from our previous
> articles proving beyond all possible doubt that we didn't say what he
> claims we said. In fact, I can only recall Mr. Marsh admitting a
> mistake once, last month, when he admitted that he wasn't following a
> thread carefully, and thought John Canal was saying that JFK's head was
> tilted by c.27 degrees at the time of the single bullet, when actually
> John was saying it was tilted at the time of the head shot.
No, you are still confused. I thought someone was talking about JFK's body leaning forward by 27 degrees to make the SBT possible.
> In stark contrast, I am well-known here for admitting my mistakes, at
> least when they really are mistakes, and I'm not "wrong" in another
> poster's opinion only.
It may take 20 years of my badgering, but finally people admit that they were just making up crap and don't have any facts.
> I hope I am proven wrong, but I predict that Mr. Marsh will never, ever,
> ever admit that I never said JFK had his fists up by Z225. I already
> take very little that he says seriously, but if he does not admit this
> obvious mistake about me personally I will know to take nothing he says
> seriously ever again. If he refuses to admit such an obvious mistake
> about me personally, how do I know that he also hasn't made mistakes
> about the JFK assassination that he refuses to admit?
In article <506f23e...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>,
Anthony Marsh <anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Still afraid to name your frames, eh?
**********
Interesting that you make no mention that Connally begins to jerk violently at almost exactly the same frame you give above for the beginning of JFK's visible reaction. Really it's Z226 rather than Z225 for both men, but that's trivial. But I'm not going to believe you or anyone else who says they "don't see" the flip of Connally's hat that clearly begins no later than Z226.
> Lol, two days ago Mr. Marsh made this astonishing claim about me:
> "You have JFK"s fists up by Z-225 and then the bullet hitting Connally
> at Z-226."
> I challenged him yesterday to quote me verbatim saying either of those
> things from any article I have ever posted. In his reply he absolutely
> refused to even try to quote such a thing, and instead, as he has so
> often done, absolutely refused to admit that he had made an obvious
> mistake about me personally.
> I have never once said that JFK already had his fists up by Z225. What
> I have been saying here for about a decade is that JFK's right hand
> begins to rise in the following frame, Z226; rather obviously his fists
> aren't all the way up until quite a few frames later.
> Unless it was more than nine years ago in one of my earliest articles to
> this newsgroup, I have also never once said that Connally was hit at
> Z226. Instead, for the past nine years at least, I have been saying
> that that is where his visible reaction begins, as that is the frame
> where the flip of the hat begins.
> I have also frequently said that both men begin to violently jerk at
> Z226.
> In the past decade Mr. Marsh has on hundreds of occasions claimed I said
> things I've never said, and I have seen him do this to other posters
> many times as well too. Almost never does he ever apologize to us and
> admit his mistakes, even when we quote verbatim from our previous
> articles proving beyond all possible doubt that we didn't say what he
> claims we said. In fact, I can only recall Mr. Marsh admitting a
> mistake once, last month, when he admitted that he wasn't following a
> thread carefully, and thought John Canal was saying that JFK's head was
> tilted by c.27 degrees at the time of the single bullet, when actually
> John was saying it was tilted at the time of the head shot.
> In stark contrast, I am well-known here for admitting my mistakes, at
> least when they really are mistakes, and I'm not "wrong" in another
> poster's opinion only.
> I hope I am proven wrong, but I predict that Mr. Marsh will never, ever,
> ever admit that I never said JFK had his fists up by Z225. I already
> take very little that he says seriously, but if he does not admit this
> obvious mistake about me personally I will know to take nothing he says
> seriously ever again. If he refuses to admit such an obvious mistake
> about me personally, how do I know that he also hasn't made mistakes
> about the JFK assassination that he refuses to admit?