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Ralph Cinque

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May 11, 2013, 10:44:21 PM5/11/13
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Hit List! It is actor Richard Belzar's new book about the many murders of
JFK witnesses that began occurring soon after the assassination and
continued for many years thereafter. And we mustn't assume that they are
done killing either. In Belzar's online interview, for which the link is
provided below, he mentions that quite a few of the killings occurred
during the HSCA hearings.

http://lewrockwell.com/yk/richard-belzer-jfk.html

I wonder if that bothered anyone at the HSCA, that witnesses were dropping
like flies. Probably not. When you're busy conducting a government
whitewash, you need to stay focused.

A lot of the murders were bizarrely inept too, says Belzar. Suiciding
people was a popular option, but, how likely is it that a left-handed
person would shoot himself with his right hand? Dorothy Kilgallen died in
bed reading- with an open book over her chest. Except, her friends said it
was a book she had already read and discussed with them and would not have
read again.

Belzar says that 90% of the public knows full well that there was a JFK
conspiracy, and the other 10% work for government or media. I would add
that included among government workers are educators because teachers are
essentially mouthpieces of the state. Sad, but true. And in effect, it's
all government schools today. Even the relatively few private schools are
so dependent on the federal government for scholarship money, student
loans, grants, etc. that they tow the government line- about everything-
especially what t hey teach in history class.

Belzar makes a very good point that among the many people who got involved
in the coverup, why did they do it? Was it out of loyalty to Lyndon
Johnson, Herbert Hoover, and other participants? No. Belzar claims that
they probably thought it was in the best interest of the country, that the
whole government could collapse otherwise, that there would be chaos,
anarachy, etc. Of course, that's just a rationalization and one that we
should never grant. No matter what the consequences are, we need JFK
Truth, and we need it now.

He also mentions the concept of "compartmentalization" within government-
that individuals are given narrowly focused assignments where the entirety
of the process is NEVER discussed, never mentioned, and never
acknowledged. Government work is all about knowing what can be spoken and
what can't.

Belzar makes another good point that modern technology has been the
undoing of the JFK conspiracy. He gave the example of the altered autopsy
x-rays, how Spectroanalysis has exposed that those x-rays were doctored,
and I believe he was referring to the work of Dr. David Mantik. But, we
could say the same thing about the Altgens photo. Without home computing
and the internet, we would never have been able to accomplish what we've
done in exposing the truth about it.

It's poignant to me that Belzar's interviewer, a bright young man, is way
too young to have been alive when JFK got killed, and that's obvious. Yet,
he is still keenly interested, and that's obvious too. But, we are seeing
a lot of young people getting involved in JFK truth. It doesn't matter
that it was before their time. It's about standing up to tyranny, and I
have no doubt that it's the young who are gonig to lead the way.

I sent the following letter to Richard Belzer:

Mr. Belzer, I am Ralph Cinque, the founder of the Oswald Innocence
Campaign, and I am inviting you to become a senior... member of the OIC.
There is no cost or obligation. We presently have such notables as
Attorney Vincent Salandria, Professor David Wrone, Professor James Fetzer,
author Peter Janney who wrote Mary's Mosaic, author Philllip F. Nelson who
wrote LBJ: Mastermind of the JFK Assassination, author Craig Roberts who
wrote Kill Zone, among others. We embrace all facets of JFK truth, but the
thing that unifies us is the recognition that Lee Harvey Oswald was
standing in the doorway of the TSBD during the shooting, which was caught
on camera by James Altgens and on movie film by Dave Wiegman. Please visit
our website at www.oswald-innocent.com. We also have a Facebook page at:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Oswald-Innocence-Campaign/322459544515376?ref=ts&fref=ts

. . . and there you'll see that the vast amount of evidence we have
assembled is more than sufficient to make it iron-clad that Oswald was
standing in the doorway. There is no longer any doubt about it. Richard,
your presence in the Oswald Innocence Campaign would add mightily to our
stature and visibility. So, please consider joining us for the sake of JFK
Truth. We aren't going to stop until the whole government/media lie about
JFK's murder is completely demolished. You can reach me at
oswaldi...@yahoo.com. I thank you for all you have done in this fight.

Ralph Cinque

John Fiorentino

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May 12, 2013, 6:28:05 PM5/12/13
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Oy Vey!


John F.



"Ralph Cinque" <buda...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Hit List! It is actor Richard Belzar's new book about the many murders of
JFK witnesses that began occurring soon after the assassination and
continued for many years thereafter. And we mustn't assume that they are
done killing either. In Belzar's online interview, for which the link is
provided below, he mentions that quite a few of the killings occurred
during the HSCA hearings.

http://lewrockwell.com/yk/richard-belzer-jfk.html

I wonder if that bothered anyone at the HSCA, that witnesses were dropping
like flies. Probably not. When you're busy conducting a government
whitewash, you need to stay focused.

A lot of the murders were bizarrely inept too, says Belzar. Suiciding
people was a popular option, but, how likely is it that a left-handed
person would shoot himself with his right hand? Dorothy Kilgallen died in
bed reading- with an open book over her chest. Except, her friends said it
was a book she had already read and discussed with them and would not have
read again.

Belzar says that 90% of the public knows full well that there was a JFK
conspiracy, and the other 10% work for government or media. I would add
that included among government workers are educators because teachers are
essentially mouthpieces of the state. Sad, but true. And in effect, it's
all government schools today. Even the relatively few private schools are
so dependent on the federal government for scholarship money, student
loans, grants, etc. that they tow the government line- about everything-
especially what t=ey teach in history class.

Jason Burke

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May 12, 2013, 9:11:38 PM5/12/13
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On 5/11/2013 7:44 PM, Ralph Cinque wrote:
> Hit List! It is actor Richard Belzar's new book about the many murders of
> JFK witnesses that began occurring soon after the assassination and
> continued for many years thereafter. And we mustn't assume that they are
> done killing either. In Belzar's online interview, for which the link is
> provided below, he mentions that quite a few of the killings occurred
> during the HSCA hearings.
>
> http://lewrockwell.com/yk/richard-belzer-jfk.html
>
> I wonder if that bothered anyone at the HSCA, that witnesses were dropping
> like flies. Probably not. When you're busy conducting a government
> whitewash, you need to stay focused.
>
> A lot of the murders were bizarrely inept too, says Belzar. Suiciding
> people was a popular option, but, how likely is it that a left-handed
> person would shoot himself with his right hand? Dorothy Kilgallen died in
> bed reading- with an open book over her chest. Except, her friends said it
> was a book she had already read and discussed with them and would not have
> read again.
>
> Belzar says that 90% of the public knows full well that there was a JFK
> conspiracy, and the other 10% work for government or media. I would add

Besides the percentages presented being patently foolish, did'ya see
yesterday's Washington Post article, Raplh?

Right there, this kind of silliness throws pretty much all of Belzar's
analysis out the window. Assuming that's an actual quote from the book.

Not to mention that the math is pathetic. As we see, when you rig both
the numerator and denominator, you can pretty much fake whatever you want.

> that included among government workers are educators because teachers are
> essentially mouthpieces of the state. Sad, but true. And in effect, it's
> all government schools today. Even the relatively few private schools are
> so dependent on the federal government for scholarship money, student
> loans, grants, etc. that they tow the government line- about everything-
> especially what t=ey teach in history class.

Canuck

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May 14, 2013, 8:08:34 PM5/14/13
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On Saturday, May 11, 2013 7:44:21 PM UTC-7, Ralph Cinque wrote:
> Hit List! It is actor Richard Belzar's new book about the many murders of
>
> JFK witnesses that began occurring soon after the assassination and
>
> continued for many years thereafter. And we mustn't assume that they are
>
> done killing either. In Belzar's online interview, for which the link is
>
> provided below, he mentions that quite a few of the killings occurred
>
> during the HSCA hearings.
>
>
>
> http://lewrockwell.com/yk/richard-belzer-jfk.html
>
>
>
> I wonder if that bothered anyone at the HSCA, that witnesses were dropping
>
> like flies. Probably not. When you're busy conducting a government
>
> whitewash, you need to stay focused.
>
>
>
> A lot of the murders were bizarrely inept too, says Belzar. Suiciding
>
> people was a popular option, but, how likely is it that a left-handed
>
> person would shoot himself with his right hand? Dorothy Kilgallen died in
>
> bed reading- with an open book over her chest. Except, her friends said it
>
> was a book she had already read and discussed with them and would not have
>
> read again.
>
>
>
> Belzar says that 90% of the public knows full well that there was a JFK
>
> conspiracy, and the other 10% work for government or media. I would add
>
> that included among government workers are educators because teachers are
>
> essentially mouthpieces of the state. Sad, but true. And in effect, it's
>
> all government schools today. Even the relatively few private schools are
>
> so dependent on the federal government for scholarship money, student
>
> loans, grants, etc. that they tow the government line- about everything-
>
> especially what t= hey teach in history class.
Herbert Hoover? I believe you mean J. Edgar Hoover. - prw

Anthony Marsh

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May 15, 2013, 6:25:18 PM5/15/13
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Jesus Christ, man. Now you've gone and spoiled it. I was hoping we had a
new conspiracy theory to make fun of. How about Henry Ford instead of
Gerald Ford?


John Fiorentino

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May 15, 2013, 11:09:54 PM5/15/13
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I take exception with your use of the Lord's name in vain.

You really are offensive. I'm surprised .John let that get through.

John F.





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Ralph Cinque

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May 15, 2013, 11:49:05 PM5/15/13
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How about we make fun of your ridiculous theory, Marsh, that after not
shooting Kennedy, Oswald goes on to shoot and kill Tippit. There are no
theories zanier than that one.

Sandy McCroskey

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May 16, 2013, 6:01:12 PM5/16/13
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Are you serious? Really can't tell.
AFAIK, "profanity" is allowed here.
(And though I think Tony regards Jesus as his "Lord" too, I'm sure
you're aware that not all of us are believers.)

Canuck

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May 16, 2013, 11:03:49 PM5/16/13
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We don't know what was said between Tippit and "Oswald" (if, indeed, it
was him) during their brief conversation, as "Oswald" leaned against the
window of Tippit's police car. Tippit might have suspected he was the
missing employee from the TSBD, if "Oswald" suddenly reversed directions,
as Tippit was driving towards him (as theorized by Dale Myers in his book
WITH MALICE). He might have asked Oswald where he was going and if he knew
anything about the assassination, causing "Oswald" to panic. According to
some eyewitnesses "Oswald" was initially walking towards Tippit, but other
eyewitnesses recall him walking away from Tippit. I don't believe anyone
actually saw him reverse directions, however, and no one recalled seeing
"Oswald" walking quickly from his rooming house to the scene of the Tippit
murder. Since eyewitness Helen Markham was heading to the bus stop for
her 1:12 trip to work (at the Eat Well cafe where both Ruby and Craford
regularly ate, as it was near the club), Tippit likely was shot around
1:10, not 1:18 as the Warren Commission concluded. Oswald left his
roominghouse around 1:03 according to his landlady, and the scene of the
crime was almost a mile away.

I have speculated in my article "Creating A Patsy",available at:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/creatingapatsy.htm, that it might have been
Curtis Craford (aka Larry Crafard), given the fact that he told me when I
interviewed him, at his favourite restaurant in Lafayette, Oregon in Dec.
2001, that he had been a "hitman" while living in the San Francisco area
in the early 1960s. An eyewitness, who didn't come forward, but was
located by the HSCA, saw the killer calmly fire a fourth shot into
Tippit's head, who was likely already dead or unconscious from the first
three shots. The "hitman" reference is referred to in Joan Mellen's book,
based on a summary of my interview which I provided her (she also
interviewed Craford and his brother by phone, which I set up). However,
Craford had testified that he was sleeping at the Carousel Club when JFK
was shot, and that Andy Armstrong woke him up with the news. Craford had
indicated that he and others at the club had planned to watch the
motorcade, and he always got up early to start getting the club ready for
the evening, including feeding Ruby's dogs, and he normally did not go
back to bed. As you know, Craford left Dallas with only $7.00 on Nov. 23,
and hitchhiked to his sister's cabin in northern Michigan, visiting his
aunt and cousin on the way, near Detroit. The FBI tracked him down, as he
had left an envelope behind with his cousin's address on it, and he was
photographed by the FBI (colour photos, which are in the Warren volumes;
one appears in "The Search For Lee Harvey Oswald" which I showed him).
Craford is wearing a light-coloured jacket similar to the one found under
a car near the Tippit murder, which "Oswald" had disgarded. Apparently,
Ruby had bought Craford clothes at a thrift store, possibly including a
couple of light-coloured jackets. Marina was certain that the two jackets
Oswald owned had never been drycleaned, and remembered washing them. The
jacket found in the car lot (which wasn't Oswald's size) had two
drycleaning tickets stapled to it, neither of which could be linked to any
drycleaners in either Dallas/Ft. Worth or New Orleans. One of them
started with the letter "B", which might have stood for "Berkeley", where
Craford worked briefly for a company, mentioned during his WC interview by
Griffin or Hubert (although it was the only company Craford couldn't
remember working for, in his response). I contacted Judge Griffin a few
years ago (whom I had met at the 1993 JFK/RFK/MLK conference in Chicago),
but he didn't recall anything about the company. He had urged me to keep
in touch with Craford in 1993.

I should note that when I first wrote to Craford in 1989 (obtaining the
name of the town where he lived from his father, and writing c/o the post
office there), his wife wrote back (whom he married in 1964; they
separated two years after I first contacted them, and Shirley died in
2005). She insisted Craford had left Dallas on Nov. 22, not Nov. 23, as I
had mentioned, which I believe Craford wanted her to believe all these
years. I wrote back and included photocopies of Craford's statements to
the FBI, the WC and during his Ruby trial testimony, confirming he had
left on Nov. 23 (the word "fled" was used by Judge Griffin in a letter to
the HSCA). Craford told me that the expression "hightailing it", used in a
"New Yorker" review of a Mort Sahl, one-man play, in which Craford was
mentioned at length, was an accurate description, but he wouldn't
elaborate.

Craford died last year after a lengthy illness. His blind landlady, whom
I also had met, also died a few years ago, as well as one of his three
daughters (he also had a son, plus another from a previous marriage to a
woman he claimed was a lesbian.) - prwhitmey

John Fiorentino

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May 16, 2013, 11:06:24 PM5/16/13
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I don't give a rats patoot if you believe or not.

I DO believe, and it's offensive to ME.

Simple civility should be the norm.

John F.



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Anthony Marsh

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May 16, 2013, 11:51:47 PM5/16/13
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On 5/16/2013 6:01 PM, Sandy McCroskey wrote:
> Are you serious? Really can't tell.
> AFAIK, "profanity" is allowed here.
> (And though I think Tony regards Jesus as his "Lord" too, I'm sure
> you're aware that not all of us are believers.)
>

It's only mock outrage to attack me personally.
He knows I wasn't attacking Jesus personally.
I love Jesus.
But I try to be very specific and unique in how I swear.

Anthony Marsh

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May 17, 2013, 2:00:52 PM5/17/13
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On 5/16/2013 11:06 PM, John Fiorentino wrote:
> I don't give a rats patoot if you believe or not.
>
> I DO believe, and it's offensive to ME.
>
> Simple civility should be the norm.
>

If you want simple civility instead of the truth, you are in the wrong
place.

deke

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May 22, 2013, 1:02:15 PM5/22/13
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On Friday, May 17, 2013 2:00:52 PM UTC-4, Anthony Marsh wrote:
> On 5/16/2013 11:06 PM, John Fiorentino wrote:
>
> > I don't give a rats patoot if you believe or not.
>
> >
>
> > I DO believe, and it's offensive to ME.
>
> >
>
> > Simple civility should be the norm.
>
> >
>
>
>
> If you want simple civility instead of the truth, you are in the wrong
>
> place.


They are not mutually exclusive. I think we can have both here.

Anthony Marsh

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May 22, 2013, 5:22:07 PM5/22/13
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What planet are you from?
Not on this Earth.


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