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Bill Clarke

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Sep 26, 2012, 3:36:56 PM9/26/12
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Holmes is swamp posting the group, as is his way of a defense for all his
crap. I fought for free speech and I still believe in it. It is one of
the things that make America great.

But do we have to put up with his crap? I seldom read his "stuff" anymore
but he just takes up too much room.

I opened up the group today and 50% of the threads were the results of
Holmes and his crap. He swamp post over at the nuthouse so much that many
people have stopped responding to his "stuff". So he has to come over
here and spread his "stuff".

Bill Clarke


Bud

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Sep 26, 2012, 10:03:40 PM9/26/12
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I agree for the most part I was generally ignoring the whole "Mark Lane"
series, only occasionally checking one that got multiple responses. But
then I noticed that on a few he got no responses on he started beating his
chest that the LNers were "running", you know, the usual. So then I did
respond, and Ben started running. You know, the usual. But if nothing else
Ben brought it to my attention what a liar Lane really is, so it wasn`t a
total waste.

Anthony Marsh

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Sep 26, 2012, 10:05:22 PM9/26/12
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On 9/26/2012 3:36 PM, Bill Clarke wrote:
> Holmes is swamp posting the group, as is his way of a defense for all his
> crap. I fought for free speech and I still believe in it. It is one of
> the things that make America great.
>

Free Speech is messy. That's why it has to be protected.
You would have said the same thing about the rantings of the
revolutionaries.

Bill Clarke

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Sep 27, 2012, 12:24:15 PM9/27/12
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In article <506393ab$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>, Anthony Marsh says...
>
>On 9/26/2012 3:36 PM, Bill Clarke wrote:
>> Holmes is swamp posting the group, as is his way of a defense for all his
>> crap. I fought for free speech and I still believe in it. It is one of
>> the things that make America great.
>>
>
>Free Speech is messy. That's why it has to be protected.
>You would have said the same thing about the rantings of the
>revolutionaries.

For the last decade or so you have freely told me what I think or what I
said or what I would have done and so forth. I don't believe you have
ever been right. Not one time.

Security is also messy Marsh but you have to have security to have freedom
of speech. Unfortunately they pull in opposite directions since having
security usually trims our freedoms. Too much freedom and security, by
nature, goes to hell.

So you will be a bit more understanding about the CIA?

Bill Clarke

Anthony Marsh

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Sep 27, 2012, 11:32:00 PM9/27/12
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Spoken like a true neocon. So you think we have to go around nuking other
countries to have security to enjoy OUR freedoms? My attitude is Don't
Start Nuthin, Won't Be Nuthin.

If you don't want Osama bin Laden sending planes into US buildings don't
hire him to fight the Soviets for us in Afghanistan. If you don't want the
Vietcong to kill US soldiers then don't train them and give them weapons.
If you don't want the PLO to blow up airplanes and massacre Olympic
athletes don't allow the CIA to sell the weapons to them.

> So you will be a bit more understanding about the CIA?
>

Always understanding what they are, never forgiving them. Choose good
not evil.

> Bill Clarke
>


Bud

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Sep 28, 2012, 4:24:59 PM9/28/12
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On Sep 27, 11:32 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 9/27/2012 12:24 PM, Bill Clarke wrote:
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <506393a...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>, Anthony Marsh says...
>
> >> On 9/26/2012 3:36 PM, Bill Clarke wrote:
> >>> Holmes is swamp posting the group, as is his way of a defense for all his
> >>> crap. I fought for free speech and I still believe in it.  It is one of
> >>> the things that make America great.
>
> >> Free Speech is messy. That's why it has to be protected.
> >> You would have said the same thing about the rantings of the
> >> revolutionaries.
>
> > For the last decade or so you have freely told me what I think or what I
> > said or what I would have done and so forth.  I don't believe you have
> > ever been right. Not one time.
>
> > Security is also messy Marsh but you have to have security to have freedom
> > of speech.  Unfortunately they pull in opposite directions since having
> > security usually trims our freedoms.  Too much freedom and security, by
> > nature, goes to hell.
>
> Spoken like a true neocon. So you think we have to go around nuking other
> countries to have security to enjoy OUR freedoms? My attitude is Don't
> Start Nuthin, Won't Be Nuthin.

And don`t make movies that Muslims don`t approve of?

> If you don't want Osama bin Laden sending planes into US buildings don't
> hire him to fight the Soviets for us in Afghanistan.

And if you don`t want Africans killing each other don`t send them
food.

> If you don't want the
> Vietcong to kill US soldiers then don't train them and give them weapons.

Again it was the humanitarian aid that led to this.

> If you don't want the PLO to blow up airplanes and massacre Olympic
> athletes don't allow the CIA to sell the weapons to them.

The millions we give to arab countries is what cause Muslim fanatics
to act out violently.

> > So you will be a bit more understanding about the CIA?
>
> Always understanding what they are, never forgiving them. Choose good
> not evil.

Point out the "good" countries in the world.

>
>
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>
> > Bill Clarke


Bill Clarke

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Sep 28, 2012, 4:27:53 PM9/28/12
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In article <5064d888$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>, Anthony Marsh says...
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>On 9/27/2012 12:24 PM, Bill Clarke wrote:
>> In article <506393ab$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>, Anthony Marsh says...
>>>
>>> On 9/26/2012 3:36 PM, Bill Clarke wrote:
>>>> Holmes is swamp posting the group, as is his way of a defense for all his
>>>> crap. I fought for free speech and I still believe in it. It is one of
>>>> the things that make America great.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Free Speech is messy. That's why it has to be protected.
>>> You would have said the same thing about the rantings of the
>>> revolutionaries.
>>
>> For the last decade or so you have freely told me what I think or what I
>> said or what I would have done and so forth. I don't believe you have
>> ever been right. Not one time.
>>
>> Security is also messy Marsh but you have to have security to have freedom
>> of speech. Unfortunately they pull in opposite directions since having
>> security usually trims our freedoms. Too much freedom and security, by
>> nature, goes to hell.
>>
>
>Spoken like a true neocon. So you think we have to go around nuking other
>countries to have security to enjoy OUR freedoms? My attitude is Don't
>Start Nuthin, Won't Be Nuthin.

I've ran a lot of Recon in force Marsh but no neocon. And what country
have we nuked since Japan in 1945? Got a bit excited there, didn't you
ole boy?

This "don't start nothin" is a much over-simplification by you. These
tribes, religions, and races were killing each other and innocent people
long before there was ever a United States of America. They continue
their crap today. It is much to late, "not to start nothing".


>If you don't want Osama bin Laden sending planes into US buildings don't
>hire him to fight the Soviets for us in Afghanistan. If you don't want the
>Vietcong to kill US soldiers then don't train them and give them weapons.
>If you don't want the PLO to blow up airplanes and massacre Olympic
>athletes don't allow the CIA to sell the weapons to them.
>
>> So you will be a bit more understanding about the CIA?
>>
>
>Always understanding what they are, never forgiving them. Choose good
>not evil.

You choose bin Laden, the communist Vietcong and the PLO as good. Now I
see why you and I have a problem.

Bill Clarke


John Reagor King

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Sep 28, 2012, 9:18:39 PM9/28/12
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In article <k40h1...@drn.newsguy.com>,
Bill Clarke <Bill_...@newsguy.com> wrote:

> In article <506393ab$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>, Anthony Marsh says...
> >
> >On 9/26/2012 3:36 PM, Bill Clarke wrote:
> >> Holmes is swamp posting the group, as is his way of a defense for all his
> >> crap. I fought for free speech and I still believe in it. It is one of
> >> the things that make America great.
> >>
> >
> >Free Speech is messy. That's why it has to be protected.
> >You would have said the same thing about the rantings of the
> >revolutionaries.
>
> For the last decade or so you have freely told me what I think or what I
> said or what I would have done and so forth. I don't believe you have
> ever been right. Not one time.

He has done that to me too for close to a decade now, as well as
frequently claiming I said things I never said.

Bill Clarke

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Sep 29, 2012, 12:38:37 PM9/29/12
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In article <caeruleo-B7360E...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>, John Reagor
King says...
Yes, that is his way. I'm really not sure he can help himself.

Bill Clarke


Anthony Marsh

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Sep 29, 2012, 4:29:02 PM9/29/12
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On 9/28/2012 4:24 PM, Bud wrote:
> On Sep 27, 11:32 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 9/27/2012 12:24 PM, Bill Clarke wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> In article <506393a...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>, Anthony Marsh says...
>>
>>>> On 9/26/2012 3:36 PM, Bill Clarke wrote:
>>>>> Holmes is swamp posting the group, as is his way of a defense for all his
>>>>> crap. I fought for free speech and I still believe in it. It is one of
>>>>> the things that make America great.
>>
>>>> Free Speech is messy. That's why it has to be protected.
>>>> You would have said the same thing about the rantings of the
>>>> revolutionaries.
>>
>>> For the last decade or so you have freely told me what I think or what I
>>> said or what I would have done and so forth. I don't believe you have
>>> ever been right. Not one time.
>>
>>> Security is also messy Marsh but you have to have security to have freedom
>>> of speech. Unfortunately they pull in opposite directions since having
>>> security usually trims our freedoms. Too much freedom and security, by
>>> nature, goes to hell.
>>
>> Spoken like a true neocon. So you think we have to go around nuking other
>> countries to have security to enjoy OUR freedoms? My attitude is Don't
>> Start Nuthin, Won't Be Nuthin.
>
> And don`t make movies that Muslims don`t approve of?

Just one example.

>
>> If you don't want Osama bin Laden sending planes into US buildings don't
>> hire him to fight the Soviets for us in Afghanistan.
>
> And if you don`t want Africans killing each other don`t send them
> food.

Makes no sense. How about not backing one faction against the other to
get their oil and diamonds?

>
>> If you don't want the
>> Vietcong to kill US soldiers then don't train them and give them weapons.
>
> Again it was the humanitarian aid that led to this.

No, it was a little thing called WWII.

>
>> If you don't want the PLO to blow up airplanes and massacre Olympic
>> athletes don't allow the CIA to sell the weapons to them.
>
> The millions we give to arab countries is what cause Muslim fanatics
> to act out violently.
>

Doesn't have to, but the Arabs take all the money we give them for their
oil and finance the attacks on 9/11.

>>> So you will be a bit more understanding about the CIA?
>>
>> Always understanding what they are, never forgiving them. Choose good
>> not evil.
>
> Point out the "good" countries in the world.
>

I never said "good" countries. Some are better than others.

>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Bill Clarke
>
>


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