John, Mellen's Paranoia article demonstrates her specialty -- creative writing - just like her Garrison book. It is full of falsehoods stating at the beginning writing about "false defectors", naming Oswald as one. They never existed. I would like to see her interview, and polygraph, any. She ends by including a number of former CIA personnel as part of the assassination including 'Counterintelligence" member Cord Meyer who was actually CA (cover action). I did one task with him.
ishtar26o, You happen to mentions Cord Meyer, Jr. in relationship to Joan Mellen's writing. That is also corroborated by E. Howard Hunt's recorded deathbed confession to pre-knowledge by Hunt, by his son Saint Joseph, who made a copy, as E.Howard Hunt wanted it back upon an improvement of his condition. Cord Meyer,Jr. in that recording was described by him as LBJ's point man, and other info. FWIW Go ahead an prove there was no "false defector program", because I do not believe you can.
> John, Mellen's Paranoia article demonstrates her specialty -- creative > writing - just like her Garrison book. It is full of falsehoods stating at > the beginning writing about "false defectors", naming Oswald as one. > They never existed. I would like to see her interview, and polygraph, > any. She ends by including a number of former CIA personnel as part of > the assassination including 'Counterintelligence" member Cord Meyer who > was actually CA (cover action). I did one task with him.
On 28 Mar 2008 12:40:50 -0400, "Perry Mason" <assas...@shooters.com> wrote:
>ishtar26o, > You happen to mentions Cord Meyer, Jr. in relationship to Joan Mellen's >writing. That is also corroborated by E. Howard Hunt's recorded deathbed >confession to pre-knowledge by Hunt, by his son Saint Joseph, who made a >copy, as E.Howard Hunt wanted it back upon an improvement of his condition. >Cord Meyer,Jr. in that recording was described by him as LBJ's point man, >and other info. FWIW > Go ahead an prove there was no "false defector program", because I do not >believe you can.
On Mar 28, 12:40 pm, "Perry Mason" <assas...@shooters.com> wrote:
> ishtar26o, > You happen to mentions Cord Meyer, Jr. in relationship to Joan Mellen's > writing. That is also corroborated by E. Howard Hunt's recorded deathbed > confession to pre-knowledge by Hunt, by his son Saint Joseph, who made a > copy, as E.Howard Hunt wanted it back upon an improvement of his condition. > Cord Meyer,Jr. in that recording was described by him as LBJ's point man, > and other info. FWIW > Go ahead an prove there was no "false defector program", because I do not > believe you can.
First you should prove there was such a program and what was its purpose. Then explain why Oswald was chosen and what he was supposed to do without any training.
As for evidence that such a program did not exist, it is a tenet of clandestine operations that your person is not put into a hostile environment unless he/she can be protected and, when necessary. extracted. Sending a supposed '"fake defecter"mto the USSR at that time would be sending a person to his death. There was no assurance he would not be broken and exposed, and not be able to be extracted. His asshes could be returned with the assertion he committed suicide.
She lies abour David Atlee Phillips being involved in JFK's assassination, Fonzi made that accusation in a magazine article, Phillips sued for libel. Fonzi unable to prove that he wrote the truth invoked the Sullivan - it is okay to lie about a "public figure is malice was not involved. Fonzi claimed Phillips would be unable to prove malice. The case was dismissed. Fonzi waited until after Phillips died before publishing his book with the same accusation. After Fonzi got out from under, his friend, Anthony Summers, wrote the same in an article published by the British Observer newspapers. Phillips sued again in the UK, Summers fled to Ireland before he could be served with papers leaving the Observers holding the bag. After a lengthy trial, and the observer unable to find witnesses to come to London and testify under oath, they admitted there was no evidence to support Summers, apologized, paid, and stated in court that Phillips was not involved. In a third libel suit against authors of a book stating Phillips had ties to Oswald, Phillips won with those sued admitting there was no evidence.
ishtar...@netscape.net wrote: > On Mar 28, 12:40 pm, "Perry Mason" <assas...@shooters.com> wrote: >> ishtar26o, >> You happen to mentions Cord Meyer, Jr. in relationship to Joan Mellen's >> writing. That is also corroborated by E. Howard Hunt's recorded deathbed >> confession to pre-knowledge by Hunt, by his son Saint Joseph, who made a >> copy, as E.Howard Hunt wanted it back upon an improvement of his condition. >> Cord Meyer,Jr. in that recording was described by him as LBJ's point man, >> and other info. FWIW >> Go ahead an prove there was no "false defector program", because I do not >> believe you can.
> First you should prove there was such a program and what was its purpose. > Then explain why Oswald was chosen and what he was supposed to do without > any training.
> As for evidence that such a program did not exist, it is a tenet of > clandestine operations that your person is not put into a hostile > environment unless he/she can be protected and, when necessary. extracted. > Sending a supposed '"fake defecter"mto the USSR at that time would be > sending a person to his death. There was no assurance he would not be > broken and exposed, and not be able to be extracted. His asshes could be > returned with the assertion he committed suicide.
The CIA sends agents to their certain deaths routinely.
> ishtar...@netscape.net wrote: > > On Mar 28, 12:40 pm, "Perry Mason" <assas...@shooters.com> wrote: > >> ishtar26o, > >> You happen to mentions Cord Meyer, Jr. in relationship to Joan Mellen's > >> writing. That is also corroborated by E. Howard Hunt's recorded deathbed > >> confession to pre-knowledge by Hunt, by his son Saint Joseph, who made a > >> copy, as E.Howard Hunt wanted it back upon an improvement of his condition. > >> Cord Meyer,Jr. in that recording was described by him as LBJ's point man, > >> and other info. FWIW > >> Go ahead an prove there was no "false defector program", because I do not > >> believe you can.
> > First you should prove there was such a program and what was its purpose. > > Then explain why Oswald was chosen and what he was supposed to do without > > any training.
> > As for evidence that such a program did not exist, it is a tenet of > > clandestine operations that your person is not put into a hostile > > environment unless he/she can be protected and, when necessary. extracted. > > Sending a supposed '"fake defecter"mto the USSR at that time would be > > sending a person to his death. There was no assurance he would not be > > broken and exposed, and not be able to be extracted. His asshes could be > > returned with the assertion he committed suicide.
> The CIA sends agents to their certain deaths routinely.
Oh? Tell us about since you claim total knowledge of ALL CIA activities. Give examples of this routine. I recall my last run in with you, Marsh, when you when you posted FALSE information on the U-2. My rebuttal is still there with quotes, something you were unable to do
ishtar...@netscape.net wrote: > On Mar 30, 4:28 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@comcast.net> wrote: >> ishtar...@netscape.net wrote: >>> On Mar 28, 12:40 pm, "Perry Mason" <assas...@shooters.com> wrote: >>>> ishtar26o, >>>> You happen to mentions Cord Meyer, Jr. in relationship to Joan Mellen's >>>> writing. That is also corroborated by E. Howard Hunt's recorded deathbed >>>> confession to pre-knowledge by Hunt, by his son Saint Joseph, who made a >>>> copy, as E.Howard Hunt wanted it back upon an improvement of his condition. >>>> Cord Meyer,Jr. in that recording was described by him as LBJ's point man, >>>> and other info. FWIW >>>> Go ahead an prove there was no "false defector program", because I do not >>>> believe you can. >>> First you should prove there was such a program and what was its purpose. >>> Then explain why Oswald was chosen and what he was supposed to do without >>> any training. >>> As for evidence that such a program did not exist, it is a tenet of >>> clandestine operations that your person is not put into a hostile >>> environment unless he/she can be protected and, when necessary. extracted. >>> Sending a supposed '"fake defecter"mto the USSR at that time would be >>> sending a person to his death. There was no assurance he would not be >>> broken and exposed, and not be able to be extracted. His asshes could be >>> returned with the assertion he committed suicide. >> The CIA sends agents to their certain deaths routinely.
> Oh? Tell us about since you claim total knowledge of ALL CIA activities.
I have never claimed total knowledge of ALL CIA activities. Not even someone who has been in the CIA can claim that, although you do make such claims, falsely.
> Give examples of this routine. I recall my last run in with you, Marsh, > when you when you posted FALSE information on the U-2. My rebuttal is > still there with quotes, something you were unable to do
I gave plenty of quotes, from experts and from official CIA documents. You did not.
> ishtar...@netscape.net wrote: > > On Mar 30, 4:28 pm, Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> ishtar...@netscape.net wrote: > >>> On Mar 28, 12:40 pm, "Perry Mason" <assas...@shooters.com> wrote: > >>>> ishtar26o, > >>>> You happen to mentions Cord Meyer, Jr. in relationship to Joan Mellen's > >>>> writing. That is also corroborated by E. Howard Hunt's recorded deathbed > >>>> confession to pre-knowledge by Hunt, by his son Saint Joseph, who made a > >>>> copy, as E.Howard Hunt wanted it back upon an improvement of his condition. > >>>> Cord Meyer,Jr. in that recording was described by him as LBJ's point man, > >>>> and other info. FWIW > >>>> Go ahead an prove there was no "false defector program", because I do not > >>>> believe you can. > >>> First you should prove there was such a program and what was its purpose. > >>> Then explain why Oswald was chosen and what he was supposed to do without > >>> any training. > >>> As for evidence that such a program did not exist, it is a tenet of > >>> clandestine operations that your person is not put into a hostile > >>> environment unless he/she can be protected and, when necessary. extracted. > >>> Sending a supposed '"fake defecter"mto the USSR at that time would be > >>> sending a person to his death. There was no assurance he would not be > >>> broken and exposed, and not be able to be extracted. His asshes could be > >>> returned with the assertion he committed suicide. > >> The CIA sends agents to their certain deaths routinely.
> > Oh? Tell us about since you claim total knowledge of ALL CIA activities.
> I have never claimed total knowledge of ALL CIA activities. Not even > someone who has been in the CIA can claim that, although you do make > such claims, falsely.
You certainly act like you do, Obviously you are ducking and cannot come up with anything to show that CIA sends "agents" to their deaths routinely. I take it you are admitting you lied.
> > Give examples of this routine. I recall my last run in with you, Marsh, > > when you when you posted FALSE information on the U-2. My rebuttal is > > still there with quotes, something you were unable to do
> I gave plenty of quotes, from experts and from official CIA documents. > You did not.
That too is a fabrication, You never , never quoted anything of the sort as I pointed out in the last exchange on the U-2. I quoted from CIA's release on the OXCART that roved your claim FALSE. Perhaps you would dare to QUOTE CIA, if you dare, but I doubt you will. YOU NEVER HAVE, NEVER.
