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bill_hi...@excite.com  
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(1 user)  More options Mar 26, 11:17 pm
Newsgroups: alt.assassination.jfk
From: bill_hi...@excite.com
Date: 26 Mar 2008 23:17:51 -0400
Local: Wed, Mar 26 2008 11:17 pm
Subject: New Article: Experts Say Sirhan Did Not Kill RFK
Take it for what it's worth.  Here's the link:

http://www.nbc30.com/news/15712020/detail.html


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(2 users)  More options Mar 27, 7:54 am
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From: "firefly" <firefly...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: 27 Mar 2008 07:54:37 -0400
Local: Thurs, Mar 27 2008 7:54 am
Subject: Re: New Article: Experts Say Sirhan Did Not Kill RFK

<bill_hi...@excite.com> wrote in message

news:575ab0ea-600b-44a1-a495-51922170aff1@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

> Take it for what it's worth.  Here's the link:

> http://www.nbc30.com/news/15712020/detail.html

Clearly he did not.

Sirhan was up on a 4 foot high table, firing horizontally.  Senator Kennedy
was shot from behind in a sharply upward angle.

The resulting bullet hole evidence supporting this: Ceiling tiles, door
jams, were removed and promptly lost.

There were TWO witnesses who saw the body guard to Kennedy firing a pistol
from his hip up into Kennedy.  One said it was intentional, the other said
it was accidental.  Both were not allowed to testify.

The mob had a lot of control of cities in America back then.

---firefly


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Anthony Marsh  
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(2 users)  More options Mar 27, 10:42 am
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From: Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@comcast.net>
Date: 27 Mar 2008 10:42:40 -0400
Local: Thurs, Mar 27 2008 10:42 am
Subject: Re: New Article: Experts Say Sirhan Did Not Kill RFK

firefly wrote:
> <bill_hi...@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:575ab0ea-600b-44a1-a495-51922170aff1@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> Take it for what it's worth.  Here's the link:

>> http://www.nbc30.com/news/15712020/detail.html

> Clearly he did not.

> Sirhan was up on a 4 foot high table, firing horizontally.  Senator Kennedy
> was shot from behind in a sharply upward angle.

Sirhan was not "UP" on a table. He was NEXT to the table. And he was
short. The problem is that Sirhan was never close enough for his
revolver to leave powder burns. That happens only at closer ranges.


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r2bzju...@sbcglobal.net  
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(1 user)  More options Mar 27, 10:43 am
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From: r2bzju...@sbcglobal.net
Date: 27 Mar 2008 10:43:38 -0400
Local: Thurs, Mar 27 2008 10:43 am
Subject: Re: New Article: Experts Say Sirhan Did Not Kill RFK
On Mar 27, 4:54 am, "firefly" <firefly...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

***Someone standing on a four foot table would not have been firing
horizontally at someone walking on the floor.

Stand as if firing a gun from your hip.  Try turning your wrist
upward.
It is rather difficult.

***Ron Judge


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jleyden...@aol.com  
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(2 users)  More options Mar 27, 8:26 pm
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Date: 27 Mar 2008 20:26:33 -0400
Local: Thurs, Mar 27 2008 8:26 pm
Subject: Re: New Article: Experts Say Sirhan Did Not Kill RFK
On Mar 26, 10:17�pm, bill_hi...@excite.com wrote:

> Take it for what it's worth. �Here's the link:

> http://www.nbc30.com/news/15712020/detail.html

The RFK assassination is prime example of how much some people desperately
need to believe in conspiracies.  Here is a case where the killer is
caught virtually standing over the dead man's body with a smoking gun in
his hand and these people say he didn't do it.  (It was a lady in a polka
dot dress or someone else.) Kinda dulls any hope that we'll ever see an
end to the JFK assn. controversy.  Too many people enjoy it.

JGL


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(1 user)  More options Mar 27, 8:29 pm
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From: "firefly" <firefly...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: 27 Mar 2008 20:29:12 -0400
Local: Thurs, Mar 27 2008 8:29 pm
Subject: Re: New Article: Experts Say Sirhan Did Not Kill RFK

<r2bzju...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

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On Mar 27, 4:54 am, "firefly" <firefly...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

***Someone standing on a four foot table would not have been firing
horizontally at someone walking on the floor.

Stand as if firing a gun from your hip.  Try turning your wrist upward. It
is rather difficult.

***Ron Judge

====
How could this possibly be considered difficult?

---firefly


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(1 user)  More options Mar 27, 8:29 pm
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From: "firefly" <firefly...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: 27 Mar 2008 20:29:52 -0400
Local: Thurs, Mar 27 2008 8:29 pm
Subject: Re: New Article: Experts Say Sirhan Did Not Kill RFK

<MELAY...@talktalk.net> wrote in message

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On Mar 27, 11:54 am, "firefly" <firefly...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

After checking the preponderence of material, I stand on the floor,
corrected on this.

I had read it recently online, and was amazed I hadn't understood it to be
the case before.  It was reported on that page in error.

>Please inform forum members of the names of the two >witnesses who said
>Thane Cesar had shot RFK.

Wikipedia says it was 3 witnesses to Thane Cesar shooting into Kennedy, not
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirhan_Sirhan

In other reports, there were 2 witnesses, one a newsman.

The name of one is Donald Schulman, who is the witness who believed Thane
Cesar's attempt to shoot back at Sirhan caused him to shoot Kennedy, as he
reports he observed happen.  One place this was testified was on KNXT news
with Jerry Dunphy on June 5, 1968.

The other one or two witnesses are elusive at the moment, as they are not
found in my immediate search, and I need to get back to work.

There is, however, newly found additional evidence to support the veracity
of a second shooter.

The shots in the kitchen pantry was recorded on audio tape by Stanislaw
Pruszynski, a freelance newspaper reporter who was covering Senator
Kennedy's presidential campaign for the Montreal Gazette.

Pruszynski had made the recording with a battery-powered portable cassette
tape recorder and an attached microphone. Pruszynski's tape has become the
only known sound recording of the Robert F. Kennedy assassination and
analysis of it has only just begun.

On February 21, 2008, scientific results that conclude the recording
reveals a second gun in the assassination were presented at the American
Academy of Forensic Sciences annual meeting in Washington DC for further
study and peer review.

---Firefly


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Anthony Marsh  
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(1 user)  More options Mar 27, 9:17 pm
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From: Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@comcast.net>
Date: 27 Mar 2008 21:17:58 -0400
Local: Thurs, Mar 27 2008 9:17 pm
Subject: Re: New Article: Experts Say Sirhan Did Not Kill RFK

Sirhan was not standing on the table. He was standing next to it and he
was grabbed by Rosie Greer.


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(1 user)  More options Mar 27, 11:30 pm
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From: r2bzju...@sbcglobal.net
Date: 27 Mar 2008 23:30:36 -0400
Local: Thurs, Mar 27 2008 11:30 pm
Subject: Re: New Article: Experts Say Sirhan Did Not Kill RFK
On Mar 27, 5:29 pm, "firefly" <firefly...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

***Place the gun at your hip and try to aim up by bending your wrist. You
are basicly forced to shoot level.

The arm would have to be bent upward to fire upward, raising the altitude
of the gun.

***Ron Judge


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From: Anthony Marsh <anthony_ma...@comcast.net>
Date: 28 Mar 2008 20:24:05 -0400
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Subject: Re: New Article: Experts Say Sirhan Did Not Kill RFK