JAMES FILES SAYS HE ENTERED DAVE'S APARTMENT,JESSY,AND KILLED HIM IN A COMPARATIVELY UNDETECTABLE WAY BY SHOVING A LONG,THIN IRON FILE UP THROUGH THE ROOF OF DAVE'S MOUTH. It's true that such an entry would would be hard to see such an entry wound up in the roof of the mouth,with its rugae (ridges) possibly shadowing over such an entry wound if you used a light,as shown in the photo, to look into the mouth. And its result in the brain could look like a popped aneurysm that then hemorrhaged. this was not a nail file, but a real file --a tool--used in construction. The thinnest are only 10% as wide as a common nail file. Chetta should have seen the wound in the brain originating up through the roof of the mouth,if this is what occurred--but this was a man working for the Mafia, and Chetta had seen mafia murders before and had good reasons to mind his own business, as we can tell by the fact that he also made shift to avoid analyzing the stomach contents in this matter...no way he wouldn't know that white particles in an autolysis situation (stomach begins to digest itself after death) that those white particles had been introduced from the exterior before death, and represented pill binding material. Instead,he concentrates everyone's attention on the bleed as the result of a burst berry anuerysm --which very well might have been the case--but unfortunately,to support this verdict he also claims that he found some earlier bleeds as well. He would want us to believe that the berry anuerysm would have had been the source of earlier bleeds,which could not have occurred. A tire,for example,blows out. it doesn't leak a little and then suddenly blow out. We are told in the autopsy notes that some small,earlier bleeds were present. But these had to be elsewhere than from the berry aneurysm (and perfectly normal,by the way,in a pilot who flies at high altitudes and has high blood pressure -- this would create the headaches of which he had complained. the very last thing Dave needed was PROLOID, which makes hypertension much worse!) So the bleeds,presumably, would have nothing to do with the reported 'berry aneurysm,by the way,despite what LN pro WC writers want you to think. Medically trained observers would know better.
> JAMES FILES SAYS HE ENTERED DAVE'S APARTMENT,JESSY,AND KILLED HIM IN A
> COMPARATIVELY UNDETECTABLE WAY BY SHOVING A LONG,THIN IRON FILE UP THROUGH
> THE ROOF OF DAVE'S MOUTH. It's true that such an entry would would be hard
> to see such an entry wound up in the roof of the mouth,with its rugae
> (ridges) possibly shadowing over such an entry wound if you used a
> light,as shown in the photo, to look into the mouth. And its result in the
> brain could look like a popped aneurysm that then hemorrhaged. this was
> not a nail file, but a real file --a tool--used in construction. The
> thinnest are only 10% as wide as a common nail file. Chetta should have
> seen the wound in the brain originating up through the roof of the
> mouth,if this is what occurred--but this was a man working for the Mafia,
> and Chetta had seen mafia murders before and had good reasons to mind his
> own business, as we can tell by the fact that he also made shift to avoid
> analyzing the stomach contents in this matter...no way he wouldn't know
> that white particles in an autolysis situation (stomach begins to digest
> itself after death) that those white particles had been introduced from
> the exterior before death, and represented pill binding material.
> Instead,he concentrates everyone's attention on the bleed as the result of
> a burst berry anuerysm --which very well might have been the case--but
> unfortunately,to support this verdict he also claims that he found some
> earlier bleeds as well. He would want us to believe that the berry
> anuerysm would have had been the source of earlier bleeds,which could not
> have occurred. A tire,for example,blows out. it doesn't leak a little and
> then suddenly blow out. We are told in the autopsy notes that some
> small,earlier bleeds were present. But these had to be elsewhere than from
> the berry aneurysm (and perfectly normal,by the way,in a pilot who flies
> at high altitudes and has high blood pressure -- this would create the
> headaches of which he had complained. the very last thing Dave needed was
> PROLOID, which makes hypertension much worse!) So the bleeds,presumably,
> would have nothing to do with the reported 'berry aneurysm,by the
> way,despite what LN pro WC writers want you to think. Medically trained
> observers would know better.
> January 22 at 8:08pm ? 4
At least J's not claiming first-hand knowledge of this, as she used to
do so often with conspiracy claims she encountered..
She used to protest quite vigorously the idea that she was a
researcher rather than an eyewitness. She now seems to be settling
quite comfortably into the role of conspiracy researcher.
Somebody mentioned Baker's Facebook page out here some months ago. While I don't post there, I find it interesting to read. Having failed to convince researchers of her story in several other groups/forums, she has found her niche in this Facebook group, whose members she can pick and choose at will. She has attracted 235 members, but since, as I have noted out here, I am convinced that she never met Ferrie, I advise any readers to seek corroboration for any of her claims about Ferrie.
Among the things I've noticed about her in this group: 1) She is quite paranoid, suspecting that any unusual incident in her life is caused by some government plot to silence her. And she dishonestly implies that anyone who criticizes her story is a lone-nutter Warren Commission apologist. 2) During the holidays she was VERY concerned - almost obsessed - with the sales figures of her book, and her popularity as the object of a Google Search.
She doesn't even realize that a few of the Ferrie things she's posted originated with me. When she indicated a desire to see the originals of the Ferrie "farewell notes," I sent them along through a friend of hers. This is how she responded:
"Stephen Roy, who used the fake name David Blackburst for years, is trying to construct a legend of Dave as totally unconnected to the Kennedy assassination in every way. He contends that Dave died of natural causes only. he refused to accept ...my offer of some materials,which included a poem written on dave's table itself by an unknown person (was hoping he miught be able to ID the writing) and lectiure notes. Since he says I never met Ferrie,he refused to accept the lecture notes, saying he had sen them online ..but i had others...anyway,he prefers to see evidence that supports his version of David Ferrie, and we do not know what else he has rejected in his quest to finish his book about Dave. To be believed,he has to get by me, so we are at odds."
What an insulting piece of horse doo-doo. "Fake name". "Legend". Evidence I have "rejected." Hmm, wonder what she's trying to say. Most galling, Baker tries to reduce my lack of belief in her story to some dispute between equals: "To be believed, he has to get by me, so we are at odds." I don't have to "get by" Baker at all. I don't give a rats patoot about what she thinks of my research, and neither does anyone else. If anything, the inverse of that sentence is somewhat true: She, herself, suggested early on that, to be believed, she had to get by me. At least I know something about Ferrie, and don't pretend to have been acquainted with him.
> On Feb 8, 6:50 pm, john.mcad...@marquette.edu (John McAdams) wrote:
> > From her Facebook page:
> > <Quote on>
> > Judyth Baker
> > JAMES FILES SAYS HE ENTERED DAVE'S APARTMENT,JESSY,AND KILLED HIM IN A
> > COMPARATIVELY UNDETECTABLE WAY BY SHOVING A LONG,THIN IRON FILE UP THROUGH
> > THE ROOF OF DAVE'S MOUTH. It's true that such an entry would would be hard
> > to see such an entry wound up in the roof of the mouth,with its rugae
> > (ridges) possibly shadowing over such an entry wound if you used a
> > light,as shown in the photo, to look into the mouth. And its result in the
> > brain could look like a popped aneurysm that then hemorrhaged. this was
> > not a nail file, but a real file --a tool--used in construction. The
> > thinnest are only 10% as wide as a common nail file. Chetta should have
> > seen the wound in the brain originating up through the roof of the
> > mouth,if this is what occurred--but this was a man working for the Mafia,
> > and Chetta had seen mafia murders before and had good reasons to mind his
> > own business, as we can tell by the fact that he also made shift to avoid
> > analyzing the stomach contents in this matter...no way he wouldn't know
> > that white particles in an autolysis situation (stomach begins to digest
> > itself after death) that those white particles had been introduced from
> > the exterior before death, and represented pill binding material.
> > Instead,he concentrates everyone's attention on the bleed as the result of
> > a burst berry anuerysm --which very well might have been the case--but
> > unfortunately,to support this verdict he also claims that he found some
> > earlier bleeds as well. He would want us to believe that the berry
> > anuerysm would have had been the source of earlier bleeds,which could not
> > have occurred. A tire,for example,blows out. it doesn't leak a little and
> > then suddenly blow out. We are told in the autopsy notes that some
> > small,earlier bleeds were present. But these had to be elsewhere than from
> > the berry aneurysm (and perfectly normal,by the way,in a pilot who flies
> > at high altitudes and has high blood pressure -- this would create the
> > headaches of which he had complained. the very last thing Dave needed was
> > PROLOID, which makes hypertension much worse!) So the bleeds,presumably,
> > would have nothing to do with the reported 'berry aneurysm,by the
> > way,despite what LN pro WC writers want you to think. Medically trained
> > observers would know better.
> > January 22 at 8:08pm ? 4
> At least J's not claiming first-hand knowledge of this, as she used to
> do so often with conspiracy claims she encountered..
> She used to protest quite vigorously the idea that she was a
> researcher rather than an eyewitness. She now seems to be settling
> quite comfortably into the role of conspiracy researcher.
> Dave
One other thing: She's now, as quasi-administrator, dealing with a few of her OWN crazy people, who aggressively argue implausible or long- discredited theories! I feel bad for her and Martin.
I have no problem with her as researcher, right or wrong. It's the claims of involvement that I think were a very bad choice on her part.
blackbu...@aol.com wrote:
> On Feb 8, 10:18 pm, Dave Reitzes <dreit...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 8, 6:50 pm, john.mcad...@marquette.edu (John McAdams) wrote:
>>> From her Facebook page:
>>> <Quote on>
>>> Judyth Baker
>>> JAMES FILES SAYS HE ENTERED DAVE'S APARTMENT,JESSY,AND KILLED HIM IN A
>>> COMPARATIVELY UNDETECTABLE WAY BY SHOVING A LONG,THIN IRON FILE UP THROUGH
>>> THE ROOF OF DAVE'S MOUTH. It's true that such an entry would would be hard
>>> to see such an entry wound up in the roof of the mouth,with its rugae
>>> (ridges) possibly shadowing over such an entry wound if you used a
>>> light,as shown in the photo, to look into the mouth. And its result in the
>>> brain could look like a popped aneurysm that then hemorrhaged. this was
>>> not a nail file, but a real file --a tool--used in construction. The
>>> thinnest are only 10% as wide as a common nail file. Chetta should have
>>> seen the wound in the brain originating up through the roof of the
>>> mouth,if this is what occurred--but this was a man working for the Mafia,
>>> and Chetta had seen mafia murders before and had good reasons to mind his
>>> own business, as we can tell by the fact that he also made shift to avoid
>>> analyzing the stomach contents in this matter...no way he wouldn't know
>>> that white particles in an autolysis situation (stomach begins to digest
>>> itself after death) that those white particles had been introduced from
>>> the exterior before death, and represented pill binding material.
>>> Instead,he concentrates everyone's attention on the bleed as the result of
>>> a burst berry anuerysm --which very well might have been the case--but
>>> unfortunately,to support this verdict he also claims that he found some
>>> earlier bleeds as well. He would want us to believe that the berry
>>> anuerysm would have had been the source of earlier bleeds,which could not
>>> have occurred. A tire,for example,blows out. it doesn't leak a little and
>>> then suddenly blow out. We are told in the autopsy notes that some
>>> small,earlier bleeds were present. But these had to be elsewhere than from
>>> the berry aneurysm (and perfectly normal,by the way,in a pilot who flies
>>> at high altitudes and has high blood pressure -- this would create the
>>> headaches of which he had complained. the very last thing Dave needed was
>>> PROLOID, which makes hypertension much worse!) So the bleeds,presumably,
>>> would have nothing to do with the reported 'berry aneurysm,by the
>>> way,despite what LN pro WC writers want you to think. Medically trained
>>> observers would know better.
>>> January 22 at 8:08pm ? 4
>> At least J's not claiming first-hand knowledge of this, as she used to
>> do so often with conspiracy claims she encountered..
>> She used to protest quite vigorously the idea that she was a
>> researcher rather than an eyewitness. She now seems to be settling
>> quite comfortably into the role of conspiracy researcher.
>> Dave
> One other thing: She's now, as quasi-administrator, dealing with a few of > her OWN crazy people, who aggressively argue implausible or long- > discredited theories! I feel bad for her and Martin.
> On Feb 8, 10:18 pm, Dave Reitzes<dreit...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 8, 6:50 pm, john.mcad...@marquette.edu (John McAdams) wrote:
>>> From her Facebook page:
>>> <Quote on>
>>> Judyth Baker
>>> JAMES FILES SAYS HE ENTERED DAVE'S APARTMENT,JESSY,AND KILLED HIM IN A
>>> COMPARATIVELY UNDETECTABLE WAY BY SHOVING A LONG,THIN IRON FILE UP THROUGH
>>> THE ROOF OF DAVE'S MOUTH. It's true that such an entry would would be hard
>>> to see such an entry wound up in the roof of the mouth,with its rugae
>>> (ridges) possibly shadowing over such an entry wound if you used a
>>> light,as shown in the photo, to look into the mouth. And its result in the
>>> brain could look like a popped aneurysm that then hemorrhaged. this was
>>> not a nail file, but a real file --a tool--used in construction. The
>>> thinnest are only 10% as wide as a common nail file. Chetta should have
>>> seen the wound in the brain originating up through the roof of the
>>> mouth,if this is what occurred--but this was a man working for the Mafia,
>>> and Chetta had seen mafia murders before and had good reasons to mind his
>>> own business, as we can tell by the fact that he also made shift to avoid
>>> analyzing the stomach contents in this matter...no way he wouldn't know
>>> that white particles in an autolysis situation (stomach begins to digest
>>> itself after death) that those white particles had been introduced from
>>> the exterior before death, and represented pill binding material.
>>> Instead,he concentrates everyone's attention on the bleed as the result of
>>> a burst berry anuerysm --which very well might have been the case--but
>>> unfortunately,to support this verdict he also claims that he found some
>>> earlier bleeds as well. He would want us to believe that the berry
>>> anuerysm would have had been the source of earlier bleeds,which could not
>>> have occurred. A tire,for example,blows out. it doesn't leak a little and
>>> then suddenly blow out. We are told in the autopsy notes that some
>>> small,earlier bleeds were present. But these had to be elsewhere than from
>>> the berry aneurysm (and perfectly normal,by the way,in a pilot who flies
>>> at high altitudes and has high blood pressure -- this would create the
>>> headaches of which he had complained. the very last thing Dave needed was
>>> PROLOID, which makes hypertension much worse!) So the bleeds,presumably,
>>> would have nothing to do with the reported 'berry aneurysm,by the
>>> way,despite what LN pro WC writers want you to think. Medically trained
>>> observers would know better.
>>> January 22 at 8:08pm ? 4
>> At least J's not claiming first-hand knowledge of this, as she used to
>> do so often with conspiracy claims she encountered..
>> She used to protest quite vigorously the idea that she was a
>> researcher rather than an eyewitness. She now seems to be settling
>> quite comfortably into the role of conspiracy researcher.
>> Dave
> One other thing: She's now, as quasi-administrator, dealing with a few of
> her OWN crazy people, who aggressively argue implausible or long-
> discredited theories! I feel bad for her and Martin.
> I have no problem with her as researcher, right or wrong. It's the claims
> of involvement that I think were a very bad choice on her part.
Maybe I missed something. Did you live in New Orleans at the same time that Oswald did? Did you work at the same company at the same time that Oswald did? No? Well, Judyth did.
So you have no basis to claim that Judyth could not have known Oswald.
