----- Original Message ----- From: Fam Holtzapffel To: msha...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:45 PM Subject: Little present for Judyth Vary Baker's birthday
May 15, 2008
So, Judyth Vary Baker:
Today is your birthday. You're 65 now, and here is my present. On May 15, 2007 I wrote you that the court of justice in Haarlem, the Netherlands, decided (on August 16, 2006) that Mrs. Vary Baker - living at 136 Kleine Houtstraat in Haarlem - has to pay back Mr. Jacob Jan Holtzapffel, also living in Haarlem, the amount of dollar euro 8,647.63 plus intrest plus all kinds of extra costs immediately. Today, you will have to pay me the amount of dollar 14,844.48 (euro 9,567.27) plus all kinds of extra costs. You know that Mr. F.J. ten Seldam no longer is my lawyer, so you will have to contact me directly. Remember: you can make no deals with me; it's to late for that.
If you don't pay before you die, your heir(s) like your eldest son Josiah or your eldest daughter Susan will have to pay me.
Be careful: judge Mr. A.E.A.M. van Waesberghe's sentence (in Dutch: zaaknummer / rolnummer: 126058 / HA ZA 06-909) will be valid till August 15, 2026. On that day, you will be 83 years and three months old. As soon as I know where you live, I will come after you with a new lawyer.
So I can wait for 18 more years. It's no problem for me. Is it a problem for you?
Judyth Vary Baker, this mail has nothing to do with the THREE WRITTEN AND OF COURSE ALSO SIGNED AGREEMENTS concerning your book on Lee Harvey Oswald: one private agreement with my personal advisor Auke Visser and two agreements with me...
Have a nice birthday!
Jaap Holtzapffel
Question for all the NEW people who receive this message for Judyth Vary Baker: who can give me her exact address in the United States of America or somewhere else? Thank you for your cooperation. I will reward you.
The same greedy bastard who has repeatedly attempted to squeeze Judyth for money with phony claims and phony documents. He tried threatening Trafford, and got nowhere.
Martin
"John McAdams" <john.mcad...@marquette.edu> wrote in message
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Fam Holtzapffel > To: msha...@sbcglobal.net > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:45 PM > Subject: Little present for Judyth Vary Baker's birthday
> May 15, 2008
> So, Judyth Vary Baker:
> Today is your birthday. You're 65 now, and here is my present. > On May 15, 2007 I wrote you that the court of justice in > Haarlem, the Netherlands, decided (on August 16, 2006) that > Mrs. Vary Baker - living at 136 Kleine Houtstraat in Haarlem - > has to pay back Mr. Jacob Jan Holtzapffel, also living in > Haarlem, the amount of dollar euro 8,647.63 plus intrest plus > all kinds of extra costs immediately. > Today, you will have to pay me the amount of dollar 14,844.48 > (euro 9,567.27) plus all kinds of extra costs. You know that > Mr. F.J. ten Seldam no longer is my lawyer, so you will have > to contact me directly. Remember: you can make no deals with > me; it's to late for that.
> If you don't pay before you die, your heir(s) like your eldest son > Josiah or your eldest daughter Susan will have to pay me.
> Be careful: judge Mr. A.E.A.M. van Waesberghe's sentence > (in Dutch: zaaknummer / rolnummer: 126058 / HA ZA 06-909) > will be valid till August 15, 2026. On that day, you will be > 83 years and three months old. As soon as I know where you > live, I will come after you with a new lawyer.
> So I can wait for 18 more years. It's no problem for me. Is it a > problem for you?
> Judyth Vary Baker, this mail has nothing to do with the THREE > WRITTEN AND OF COURSE ALSO SIGNED AGREEMENTS > concerning your book on Lee Harvey Oswald: one private > agreement with my personal advisor Auke Visser and two > agreements with me...
> Have a nice birthday!
> Jaap Holtzapffel
> Question for all the NEW people who receive this message for > Judyth Vary Baker: who can give me her exact address in the > United States of America or somewhere else? Thank you > for your cooperation. I will reward you.
On 16 May 2008 10:17:21 -0400, "Martin Shackelford"
<msha...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >The same greedy bastard who has repeatedly attempted to squeeze >Judyth for money with phony claims and phony documents. >He tried threatening Trafford, and got nowhere.
>Martin
Phony documents? Do you have copies of these we can see?
>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Fam Holtzapffel >> To: msha...@sbcglobal.net >> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:45 PM >> Subject: Little present for Judyth Vary Baker's birthday
>> May 15, 2008
>> So, Judyth Vary Baker:
>> Today is your birthday. You're 65 now, and here is my present. >> On May 15, 2007 I wrote you that the court of justice in >> Haarlem, the Netherlands, decided (on August 16, 2006) that >> Mrs. Vary Baker - living at 136 Kleine Houtstraat in Haarlem - >> has to pay back Mr. Jacob Jan Holtzapffel, also living in >> Haarlem, the amount of dollar euro 8,647.63 plus intrest plus >> all kinds of extra costs immediately. >> Today, you will have to pay me the amount of dollar 14,844.48 >> (euro 9,567.27) plus all kinds of extra costs. You know that >> Mr. F.J. ten Seldam no longer is my lawyer, so you will have >> to contact me directly. Remember: you can make no deals with >> me; it's to late for that.
>> If you don't pay before you die, your heir(s) like your eldest son >> Josiah or your eldest daughter Susan will have to pay me.
>> Be careful: judge Mr. A.E.A.M. van Waesberghe's sentence >> (in Dutch: zaaknummer / rolnummer: 126058 / HA ZA 06-909) >> will be valid till August 15, 2026. On that day, you will be >> 83 years and three months old. As soon as I know where you >> live, I will come after you with a new lawyer.
>> So I can wait for 18 more years. It's no problem for me. Is it a >> problem for you?
>> Judyth Vary Baker, this mail has nothing to do with the THREE >> WRITTEN AND OF COURSE ALSO SIGNED AGREEMENTS >> concerning your book on Lee Harvey Oswald: one private >> agreement with my personal advisor Auke Visser and two >> agreements with me...
>> Have a nice birthday!
>> Jaap Holtzapffel
>> Question for all the NEW people who receive this message for >> Judyth Vary Baker: who can give me her exact address in the >> United States of America or somewhere else? Thank you >> for your cooperation. I will reward you.
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Fam Holtzapffel > To: msha...@sbcglobal.net > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:45 PM > Subject: Little present for Judyth Vary Baker's birthday
> May 15, 2008
> So, Judyth Vary Baker:
> Today is your birthday. You're 65 now, and here is my present. > On May 15, 2007 I wrote you that the court of justice in > Haarlem, the Netherlands, decided (on August 16, 2006) that > Mrs. Vary Baker - living at 136 Kleine Houtstraat in Haarlem - > has to pay back Mr. Jacob Jan Holtzapffel, also living in > Haarlem, the amount of dollar euro 8,647.63 plus intrest plus > all kinds of extra costs immediately. > Today, you will have to pay me the amount of dollar 14,844.48 > (euro 9,567.27) plus all kinds of extra costs. You know that > Mr. F.J. ten Seldam no longer is my lawyer, so you will have > to contact me directly. Remember: you can make no deals with > me; it's to late for that.
> If you don't pay before you die, your heir(s) like your eldest son > Josiah or your eldest daughter Susan will have to pay me.
> Be careful: judge Mr. A.E.A.M. van Waesberghe's sentence > (in Dutch: zaaknummer / rolnummer: 126058 / HA ZA 06-909) > will be valid till August 15, 2026. On that day, you will be > 83 years and three months old. As soon as I know where you > live, I will come after you with a new lawyer.
> So I can wait for 18 more years. It's no problem for me. Is it a > problem for you?
> Judyth Vary Baker, this mail has nothing to do with the THREE > WRITTEN AND OF COURSE ALSO SIGNED AGREEMENTS > concerning your book on Lee Harvey Oswald: one private > agreement with my personal advisor Auke Visser and two > agreements with me...
> Have a nice birthday!
> Jaap Holtzapffel
> Question for all the NEW people who receive this message for > Judyth Vary Baker: who can give me her exact address in the > United States of America or somewhere else? Thank you > for your cooperation. I will reward you.
> <quote off>
> .John > -- > The Kennedy Assassination Home Page
> On May 15, 3:57�pm, john.mcad...@marquette.edu (John McAdams) wrote: >> Just come in to my e-mail.
>> <quote on>
>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Fam Holtzapffel >> To: msha...@sbcglobal.net >> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:45 PM >> Subject: Little present for Judyth Vary Baker's birthday
>> May 15, 2008
>> So, Judyth Vary Baker:
>> Today is your birthday. You're 65 now, and here is my present. >> On May 15, 2007 I wrote you that the court of justice in >> Haarlem, the Netherlands, decided (on August 16, 2006) that >> Mrs. Vary Baker - living at 136 Kleine Houtstraat in Haarlem - >> has to pay back Mr. Jacob Jan Holtzapffel, also living in >> Haarlem, the amount of dollar euro 8,647.63 plus intrest plus >> all kinds of extra costs immediately. >> Today, you will have to pay me the amount of dollar 14,844.48 >> (euro 9,567.27) plus all kinds of extra costs. You know that >> Mr. F.J. ten Seldam no longer is my lawyer, so you will have >> to contact me directly. Remember: you can make no deals with >> me; it's to late for that.
>> If you don't pay before you die, your heir(s) like your eldest son >> Josiah or your eldest daughter Susan will have to pay me.
>> Be careful: judge Mr. A.E.A.M. van Waesberghe's sentence >> (in Dutch: zaaknummer / rolnummer: 126058 / HA ZA 06-909) >> will be valid till August 15, 2026. On that day, you will be >> 83 years and three months old. As soon as I know where you >> live, I will come after you with a new lawyer.
>> So I can wait for 18 more years. It's no problem for me. Is it a >> problem for you?
>> Judyth Vary Baker, this mail has nothing to do with the THREE >> WRITTEN AND OF COURSE ALSO SIGNED AGREEMENTS >> concerning your book on Lee Harvey Oswald: one private >> agreement with my personal advisor Auke Visser and two >> agreements with me...
>> Have a nice birthday!
>> Jaap Holtzapffel
>> Question for all the NEW people who receive this message for >> Judyth Vary Baker: who can give me her exact address in the >> United States of America or somewhere else? Thank you >> for your cooperation. I will reward you.
> On 16 May 2008 10:17:21 -0400, "Martin Shackelford" > <msha...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>The same greedy bastard who has repeatedly attempted to squeeze >>Judyth for money with phony claims and phony documents. >>He tried threatening Trafford, and got nowhere.
>>Martin
> Phony documents? Do you have copies of these we can see?
>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Fam Holtzapffel >>> To: msha...@sbcglobal.net >>> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:45 PM >>> Subject: Little present for Judyth Vary Baker's birthday
>>> May 15, 2008
>>> So, Judyth Vary Baker:
>>> Today is your birthday. You're 65 now, and here is my present. >>> On May 15, 2007 I wrote you that the court of justice in >>> Haarlem, the Netherlands, decided (on August 16, 2006) that >>> Mrs. Vary Baker - living at 136 Kleine Houtstraat in Haarlem - >>> has to pay back Mr. Jacob Jan Holtzapffel, also living in >>> Haarlem, the amount of dollar euro 8,647.63 plus intrest plus >>> all kinds of extra costs immediately. >>> Today, you will have to pay me the amount of dollar 14,844.48 >>> (euro 9,567.27) plus all kinds of extra costs. You know that >>> Mr. F.J. ten Seldam no longer is my lawyer, so you will have >>> to contact me directly. Remember: you can make no deals with >>> me; it's to late for that.
>>> If you don't pay before you die, your heir(s) like your eldest son >>> Josiah or your eldest daughter Susan will have to pay me.
>>> Be careful: judge Mr. A.E.A.M. van Waesberghe's sentence >>> (in Dutch: zaaknummer / rolnummer: 126058 / HA ZA 06-909) >>> will be valid till August 15, 2026. On that day, you will be >>> 83 years and three months old. As soon as I know where you >>> live, I will come after you with a new lawyer.
>>> So I can wait for 18 more years. It's no problem for me. Is it a >>> problem for you?
>>> Judyth Vary Baker, this mail has nothing to do with the THREE >>> WRITTEN AND OF COURSE ALSO SIGNED AGREEMENTS >>> concerning your book on Lee Harvey Oswald: one private >>> agreement with my personal advisor Auke Visser and two >>> agreements with me...
>>> Have a nice birthday!
>>> Jaap Holtzapffel
>>> Question for all the NEW people who receive this message for >>> Judyth Vary Baker: who can give me her exact address in the >>> United States of America or somewhere else? Thank you >>> for your cooperation. I will reward you.
> > I must say I have little sympathy for anyone willing to collaborate on > > any commercial venture with a loon like Judyth.
> I must say I have little sympathy for anyone willing to collaborate on > any commercial venture with a fraud like Bugliosi.
> > Dave
> > On May 15, 3:57�pm, john.mcad...@marquette.edu (John McAdams) wrote: > >> Just come in to my e-mail.
> >> <quote on>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Fam Holtzapffel > >> To: msha...@sbcglobal.net > >> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:45 PM > >> Subject: Little present for Judyth Vary Baker's birthday
> >> May 15, 2008
> >> So, Judyth Vary Baker:
> >> Today is your birthday. You're 65 now, and here is my present. > >> On May 15, 2007 I wrote you that the court of justice in > >> Haarlem, the Netherlands, decided (on August 16, 2006) that > >> Mrs. Vary Baker - living at 136 Kleine Houtstraat in Haarlem - > >> has to pay back Mr. Jacob Jan Holtzapffel, also living in > >> Haarlem, the amount of dollar euro 8,647.63 plus intrest plus > >> all kinds of extra costs immediately. > >> Today, you will have to pay me the amount of dollar 14,844.48 > >> (euro 9,567.27) plus all kinds of extra costs. You know that > >> Mr. F.J. ten Seldam no longer is my lawyer, so you will have > >> to contact me directly. Remember: you can make no deals with > >> me; it's to late for that.
> >> If you don't pay before you die, your heir(s) like your eldest son > >> Josiah or your eldest daughter Susan will have to pay me.
> >> Be careful: judge Mr. A.E.A.M. van Waesberghe's sentence > >> (in Dutch: zaaknummer / rolnummer: 126058 / HA ZA 06-909) > >> will be valid till August 15, 2026. On that day, you will be > >> 83 years and three months old. As soon as I know where you > >> live, I will come after you with a new lawyer.
> >> So I can wait for 18 more years. It's no problem for me. Is it a > >> problem for you?
> >> Judyth Vary Baker, this mail has nothing to do with the THREE > >> WRITTEN AND OF COURSE ALSO SIGNED AGREEMENTS > >> concerning your book on Lee Harvey Oswald: one private > >> agreement with my personal advisor Auke Visser and two > >> agreements with me...
> >> Have a nice birthday!
> >> Jaap Holtzapffel
> >> Question for all the NEW people who receive this message for > >> Judyth Vary Baker: who can give me her exact address in the > >> United States of America or somewhere else? Thank you > >> for your cooperation. I will reward you.
On 18 May 2008 12:11:18 -0400, "Martin Shackelford"
<msha...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >Why the hell would I circulate phony documents?
>Martin
You say they are phony. What contacts did you make in the Netherlands to confirm/deny their authenticity?
One would make a phony document available, along with notation that it IS phony and that they know that because yada. yada, yada to dispel false accusations being made and spread.
If one has made no attempts to fact check the docmuents and expects everyone to accept they are phony just on someone's sayso ... then I guess they would not make them available.
>>>The same greedy bastard who has repeatedly attempted to squeeze >>>Judyth for money with phony claims and phony documents. >>>He tried threatening Trafford, and got nowhere.
>>>Martin
>> Phony documents? Do you have copies of these we can see?
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Fam Holtzapffel >>>> To: msha...@sbcglobal.net >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:45 PM >>>> Subject: Little present for Judyth Vary Baker's birthday
>>>> May 15, 2008
>>>> So, Judyth Vary Baker:
>>>> Today is your birthday. You're 65 now, and here is my present. >>>> On May 15, 2007 I wrote you that the court of justice in >>>> Haarlem, the Netherlands, decided (on August 16, 2006) that >>>> Mrs. Vary Baker - living at 136 Kleine Houtstraat in Haarlem - >>>> has to pay back Mr. Jacob Jan Holtzapffel, also living in >>>> Haarlem, the amount of dollar euro 8,647.63 plus intrest plus >>>> all kinds of extra costs immediately. >>>> Today, you will have to pay me the amount of dollar 14,844.48 >>>> (euro 9,567.27) plus all kinds of extra costs. You know that >>>> Mr. F.J. ten Seldam no longer is my lawyer, so you will have >>>> to contact me directly. Remember: you can make no deals with >>>> me; it's to late for that.
>>>> If you don't pay before you die, your heir(s) like your eldest son >>>> Josiah or your eldest daughter Susan will have to pay me.
>>>> Be careful: judge Mr. A.E.A.M. van Waesberghe's sentence >>>> (in Dutch: zaaknummer / rolnummer: 126058 / HA ZA 06-909) >>>> will be valid till August 15, 2026. On that day, you will be >>>> 83 years and three months old. As soon as I know where you >>>> live, I will come after you with a new lawyer.
>>>> So I can wait for 18 more years. It's no problem for me. Is it a >>>> problem for you?
>>>> Judyth Vary Baker, this mail has nothing to do with the THREE >>>> WRITTEN AND OF COURSE ALSO SIGNED AGREEMENTS >>>> concerning your book on Lee Harvey Oswald: one private >>>> agreement with my personal advisor Auke Visser and two >>>> agreements with me...
>>>> Have a nice birthday!
>>>> Jaap Holtzapffel
>>>> Question for all the NEW people who receive this message for >>>> Judyth Vary Baker: who can give me her exact address in the >>>> United States of America or somewhere else? Thank you >>>> for your cooperation. I will reward you.