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Robert Harris
controversial topic, but they do in their endorsement of Lamar Waldron's
newest book, which reveals that Carlos Marcello actually admitted to a
reliable FBI informant that he ordered the assassination.
They also discuss the fact that the mafia tried to set up prior
assassination attempts in Chicago and Tampa. You can see the interview
here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exXDcu-yRiw&feature=channel_page
Robert Harris
ss679x
Of course, doesn't that beg the question that Marcello did not have
the ability to orchestrate the assassination nor to provide the cover-
up?
Robert Harris
<53558b50-bd4d-4a27...@u10g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,
ss679x <ss6...@gmail.com> wrote:
Of course Marcello had the ability. Recruiting a handful of mafia goons
doesn't exactly require a genius if you are in charge of the mafia in
that region.
But you are right that he did not have the power to coverup the
conspiracy. However, the mafia's best friend, Mr. J. Edgar Hoover, did.
Hope that helps.
Robert Harris
Thalia
If the mafia did it, why was the US government so keen to blame lone
nut Oswald?
It is interesting that the media will entertain the idea that the
mafia was behind the assassination, but go out of their way to ignore
credible evidence that members of the intelligence community were
behind the assassination.
Anthony Marsh
> On Jun 20, 10:07 pm, Robert Harris<reharr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> It's rare these days that Fox News and CNN can agree on any
>> controversial topic, but they do in their endorsement of Lamar Waldron's
>> newest book, which reveals that Carlos Marcello actually admitted to a
>> reliable FBI informant that he ordered the assassination.
>>
>> They also discuss the fact that the mafia tried to set up prior
>> assassination attempts in Chicago and Tampa. You can see the interview
>> here:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exXDcu-yRiw&feature=channel_page
>>
>> Robert Harris
>
> If the mafia did it, why was the US government so keen to blame lone
> nut Oswald?
>
Because they all thought that Castro did it.
> It is interesting that the media will entertain the idea that the
> mafia was behind the assassination, but go out of their way to ignore
> credible evidence that members of the intelligence community were
> behind the assassination.
>
Maybe that is because the media are more closely aligned with the
intelligence community than the Mafia.
Robert Harris
<df1cb103-0a6a-4ba6...@v35g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
Thalia <thali...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 20, 10:07�pm, Robert Harris <reharr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > It's rare these days that Fox News and CNN can agree on any
> > controversial topic, but they do in their endorsement of Lamar Waldron's
> > newest book, which reveals that Carlos Marcello actually admitted to a
> > reliable FBI informant that he ordered the assassination.
> >
> > They also discuss the fact that the mafia tried to set up prior
> > assassination attempts in Chicago and Tampa. You can see the interview
> > here:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exXDcu-yRiw&feature=channel_page
> >
> > Robert Harris
>
> If the mafia did it, why was the US government so keen to blame lone
> nut Oswald?
The question is simple but not the answer. Waldron explained his theory
about that in the video. Listen closely to what he said.
Also, in the early days, just after the assassination, everyone thought
that Castro was behind it and that the discovery of a conspiracy would
lead to a third world war.
But Hoover had total control of the investigation and he was basically,
owned by the mafia. He is the one who lobbied hardest for a coverup and
he had LBJ'S ear.
>
> It is interesting that the media will entertain the idea that the
> mafia was behind the assassination, but go out of their way to ignore
> credible evidence that members of the intelligence community were
> behind the assassination.
I have never seen evidence that the intelligence community took part in
the assassination, though in all honesty, I wouldn't be shocked to learn
that they were.
What evidence have you seen?
Robert Harris
Gerry Simone
Also, HSCA Chief Counsel Robert Blakey concluded that the mob had the means,
motive and opportunity to kill the President.
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> Well said.
>
> Also, HSCA Chief Counsel Robert Blakey concluded that the mob had the
> means, motive and opportunity to kill the President.
Blakey forgot to tell us HOW the mob had the power to cover-it-up !
Steve Thomas
> "Gerry Simone" <newdecent...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4a3fc427$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu...
>
> > Well said.
>
> > Also, HSCA Chief Counsel Robert Blakey concluded that the mob had the
> > means, motive and opportunity to kill the President.
>
> Blakey forgot to tell us HOW the mob had the power to cover-it-up !
That last statement has been answered to death, so why are you
stuck on it? Have you read Legacy of Doubt or Legacy of Secrecy? The
story is that the mob used people in such a way that the Feds HAD to
cover it up. Maybe you just cant sit still long enough to take in what
other people are saying?
>
> > "Robert Harris" <reharr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:reharris1-9D946...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net...
> >> In article
> >> <53558b50-bd4d-4a27-91c6-c1a1fa5b0...@u10g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,
Gerry Simone
The conspiracy to murder the President and the cover-up don't have to be
the product of the same party(s).
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On Jun 22, 10:18 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Gerry Simone" <newdecent...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4a3fc427$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu...
>
> > Well said.
>
> > Also, HSCA Chief Counsel Robert Blakey concluded that the mob had the
> > means, motive and opportunity to kill the President.
>
> Blakey forgot to tell us HOW the mob had the power to cover-it-up !
steve wrote;
That last statement has been answered to death, so why are you stuck on
it? Have you read Legacy of Doubt or Legacy of Secrecy? The story is that
the mob used people in such a way that the Feds HAD to cover it up. Maybe
you just cant sit still long enough to take in what other people are
saying?
I write;
I prefer official evidence/testimony given under oath than some author's
"opinion".
What kind of American would believe that the Mafia has complete control
over....
DPD
Texas State Police
FBI
CIA
ONI
NSA
State Dept.
ABC news
CBS news
NBC news
Major Print media
House of Representatives
U S Senate
10% of the American People
Even Communists DON't make those Claims !
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tomnln
Did the mob have the power to FORCE elements of Gov't/Media to......
Withhhold evidence
Alter evidence
Destroy evidence
Lie
Suborn Perjury
Intimidate witnesses
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Steve Thomas
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> On Jun 22, 10:18 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:> "Gerry Simone" <newdecent...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:4a3fc427$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu...
>
> > > Well said.
>
> > > Also, HSCA Chief Counsel Robert Blakey concluded that the mob had the
> > > means, motive and opportunity to kill the President.
>
> > Blakey forgot to tell us HOW the mob had the power to cover-it-up !
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> steve wrote;
>
> That last statement has been answered to death, so why are you stuck on
> it? Have you read Legacy of Doubt or Legacy of Secrecy? The story is that
> the mob used people in such a way that the Feds HAD to cover it up. Maybe
> you just cant sit still long enough to take in what other people are
> saying?
>
> I write;
>
> I prefer official evidence/testimony given under oath than some author's
> "opinion".
OK show me the evidence/testimony that says the CIA did it.
>
> What kind of American would believe that the Mafia has complete control
> over....
> DPD
> Texas State Police
> FBI
> CIA
> ONI
> NSA
> State Dept.
> ABC news
> CBS news
> NBC news
> Major Print media
> House of Representatives
> U S Senate
> 10% of the American People
>
> Even Communists DON't make those Claims !
Well you just proved my point, no one said the mob had control
over any of that which you listed so here it is again
Have you read Legacy of Doubt or Legacy of Secrecy? The
story is that the mob used people in such a way that the Feds HAD to
cover it up. Maybe you just cant sit still long enough to take in what
other people are saying?
Steve Thomas
> Lemmee rephrase;
>
> Did the mob have the power to FORCE elements of Gov't/Media to......
> Withhhold evidence
The mob didn't need that power if sensitive operations would be
compromised through a truthful investigation.
> Alter evidence
> Destroy evidence
> Lie
> Suborn Perjury
> Intimidate witnesses
>
> "Gerry Simone" <newdecent...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4a41413c$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu...
>
> > Who said that the Mob covered it up in the first place?
>
> > The conspiracy to murder the President and the cover-up don't have to be
> > the product of the same party(s).
>
> > "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >news:f9V%l.9896$t_7...@newsfe20.iad...
>
> >> "Gerry Simone" <newdecent...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:4a3fc427$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu...
> >>> Well said.
>
> >>> Also, HSCA Chief Counsel Robert Blakey concluded that the mob had the
> >>> means, motive and opportunity to kill the President.
>
> >> Blakey forgot to tell us HOW the mob had the power to cover-it-up !
>
> >>> "Robert Harris" <reharr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:reharris1-9D946...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net...
> >>>> In article
> >>>> <53558b50-bd4d-4a27-91c6-c1a1fa5b0...@u10g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,
tomnln
On Jun 24, 10:03 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Steve Thomas" <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8e976793-8d06-4353...@x5g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 22, 10:18 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:> "Gerry Simone"
> <newdecent...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:4a3fc427$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu...
>
> > > Well said.
>
> > > Also, HSCA Chief Counsel Robert Blakey concluded that the mob had the
> > > means, motive and opportunity to kill the President.
>
> > Blakey forgot to tell us HOW the mob had the power to cover-it-up !
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> That last statement has been answered to death, so why are you stuck on
> it? Have you read Legacy of Doubt or Legacy of Secrecy? The story is that
> the mob used people in such a way that the Feds HAD to cover it up. Maybe
> you just cant sit still long enough to take in what other people are
> saying?
>
> I write;
>
> I prefer official evidence/testimony given under oath than some author's
> "opinion".
steve wrote;
OK show me the evidence/testimony that says the CIA did it.
I write;
You have a Very Suspicious mind !
What makes you think the CIA "did it"?
I've NEVER said the CIA did it !
Are you gonna tell us HOW the mob had the powewr to cover it up?
(Ididn't think so)
Tell us how the mob controlled all of those listed below !
What kind of American would believe that the Mafia has complete control
over....
DPD
Texas State Police
FBI
CIA
ONI
NSA
State Dept.
ABC news
CBS news
NBC news
Major Print media
House of Representatives
U S Senate
10% of the American People
Even Communists DON't make those Claims !
Well you just proved my point, no one said the mob had control over
any of that which you listed so here it is again
Have you read Legacy of Doubt or Legacy of Secrecy? The story is that the
mob used people in such a way that the Feds HAD to cover it up. Maybe you
just cant sit still long enough to take in what other people are saying?
NAME THEM ! ! !
tomnln
On Jun 24, 10:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> Lemmee rephrase;
>
> Did the mob have the power to FORCE elements of Gov't/Media to......
> Withhhold evidence
The mob didn't need that power if sensitive operations would be
compromised through a truthful investigation.
NAME THEM
Steve Thomas
Well for the third time, no one said the mob had the power to
cover anything up.
Steve Thomas
> "Steve Thomas" <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
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> On Jun 24, 10:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Lemmee rephrase;
>
> > Did the mob have the power to FORCE elements of Gov't/Media to......
> > Withhhold evidence
>
> The mob didn't need that power if sensitive operations would be
> compromised through a truthful investigation.
>
> NAME THEM
Name who? You really don't care to understand what the books LOS or
LOD are about! No use arguing with you, until you have done the
reading. Not only that, im not defending Legacy of Secrecy i think
these 2 leftards are idiots, but i will point out when someone raises
a straw man argument. The story is that the mob did the assassination
in such a way as to cause a cover up. NO ONE SUGGESTED THE MOB HAD THE
POWER OVER YOUR LIST! Get a clue.
tomnln
steve wrote;
Well for the third time, no one said the mob had the power to
cover anything up.
I write;
O K steve;
Tell us HOW "the mob used people in such a way that the Feds HAD to cover
it up"???
ps;
You never told us why you suspect the CIA?
I NEVER said the CIA did it.
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Martin Shackelford
some interesting background to the organized crime scenario--including
the orgy arranged for JFK by Santo Trafficante; the Trafficante-John Martino
relationship; Batista and Freeport Sulphur, which became involved later in
anti-Castro activities; connections between Lewis McWillie and Martin Fox
(Ruby's testimony refers to both); Sturgis tied to the CIA, and Sturgis
serves
as Lansky's go-between with them on the first Castro assassination scheme.
Martin
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to
Waldron & Hartmann. They also tied it in a variety of ways to programs that
the
FBI and CIA wanted kept dark secrets, which triggered the coverup, in their
view.
Perhaps you should actually read the book.
Martin
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Martin
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Martin
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Martin
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Steve Thomas
There are at least 2 books dedicated to it, and to tell the truth,
i don't care about your opinion enough to explain more than iv already
said, if you cant grasp the concept that the mob was working with the
CIA to kill and/or overthrow Castro and that the FEDS wouldn't want
this to become public, well..................... it ain't worth my
time explaining, that's for sure.
>
> ps;
>
> You never told us why you suspect the CIA?
Never said it, which you know, i was pointing to one subject on your
list of
" What kind of American would believe that the Mafia has complete
control
over....
DPD
Texas State Police
FBI
CIA
ONI
NSA
State Dept.
ABC news
CBS news
NBC news
Major Print media
House of Representatives
U S Senate
10% of the American People "
4 down you list CIA, or did you forget?
>
> I NEVER said the CIA did it.
Well you provided a list of cover up artists you suspect. CIA was
on it, my mistake. Happy?
Martin Shackelford
inconvenient
for the government NOT to cover up.
Martin
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The Castro assassination plots.
The false defector program.
etc.
Martin
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> On Jun 25, 10:06 pm, "tomnln"<tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>> "Steve Thomas"<misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1c6e276b-2ae0-4974...@j9g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 24, 10:06 pm, "tomnln"<tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Lemmee rephrase;
>>
>>> Did the mob have the power to FORCE elements of Gov't/Media to......
>>> Withhhold evidence
>>
>> The mob didn't need that power if sensitive operations would be
>> compromised through a truthful investigation.
>>
>> NAME THEM
>
>
>
>
> Name who? You really don't care to understand what the books LOS or
Name whom?
I think he was asking for someone to name the "sensitive operations"
such as the Castro assassination plots.
Or perhaps the bugging operations in Mexico.
Stuff like that.
Steve Thomas
I don't suspect the CIA dude, that's your gig.
Steve Thomas
> Actually reading the book might clear up this question for you, Thalia.
I read the first one, not going to pay for another one when the first
was filled with speculation. Tomnln should read one, then his questions
wouldn't be so out there.
>
> Martin
>
> "Thalia" <thaliac...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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steve wrote;
There are at least 2 books dedicated to it, and to tell the truth, i
don't care about your opinion enough to explain more than iv already said,
if you cant grasp the concept that the mob was working with the CIA to
kill and/or overthrow Castro and that the FEDS wouldn't want this to
become public, well..................... it ain't worth my time
explaining, that's for sure.
WHAT the heck does this have to do with the FBI Cover-Up????
Or, the Secret Service??? The Secret Service ordered the limo washed out
with a bucket of water within Minutes of the shooting.
Do you think the FBI was workin]g with the mob to kill castro?
Do you think the DPD were working with the mob to kill Castro?
Do you think the S S were working with the mob to kill Castro?
Do you think the Warren Commission were working with the mob to kill Castro?
You don't know what the heck you believe ! ! !
Steve Thomas
> On 6/26/2009 10:46 PM, Steve Thomas wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 25, 10:06 pm, "tomnln"<tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> "Steve Thomas"<misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1c6e276b-2ae0-4974...@j9g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Jun 24, 10:06 pm, "tomnln"<tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>> Lemmee rephrase;
>
> >>> Did the mob have the power to FORCE elements of Gov't/Media to......
> >>> Withhhold evidence
>
> >> The mob didn't need that power if sensitive operations would be
> >> compromised through a truthful investigation.
>
> >> NAME THEM
>
> > Name who? You really don't care to understand what the books LOS or
>
> Name whom?
> I think he was asking for someone to name the "sensitive operations"
> such as the Castro assassination plots.
> Or perhaps the bugging operations in Mexico.
> Stuff like that.
>
I thought he was talking about the mob, something like that, but your 2
cents are welcome at the moment, till ya get flip, like we know you will.
Steve Thomas
> BOTTOM POST;
If there is one thing the FBI failed to mention, it was ANY hint of mob
connections that's for sure.
>
> Or, the Secret Service??? The Secret Service ordered the limo washed out
> with a bucket of water within Minutes of the shooting.
Well i don't see how that proves anything. Could it have been a
(gasp) mistake?
>
> Do you think the FBI was workin]g with the mob to kill castro?
They sure didn't mention it to the WC, and they knew about the
mob and CIA.
> Do you think the DPD were working with the mob to kill Castro?
No, but the DPD was pretty darn crooked at the time, you think it
was like that because they were corrupted by the boy scouts?
> Do you think the S S were working with the mob to kill Castro?
What leads you to believe the SS did anything other than screw
up?
> Do you think the Warren Commission were working with the mob to kill Castro?
I think the WC would do what Hoover wanted,
exhibit A. Gerald R Ford
>
> You don't know what the heck you believe ! ! !
I sure know nobody said the mob had the power to cover anything
up, unless knowledge really IS power.
>
> ps;
>
> You never told us why you suspect the CIA?
PS learn how to read the rest of a post!
tomnln
The cover up started within minutes of the shooting when the Secret
Service ordered the limo washed out with a bucket of water.
WHAT the hell did THEY have to do with the Castro Assassination
attempts???
Marsh is STILL an WCR Apologist !
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On Jun 27, 9:55 am, "Martin Shackelford" <msha...@charter.net> wrote:
> Actually reading the book might clear up this question for you, Thalia.
I read the first one, not going to pay for another one when the first
was filled with speculation. Tomnln should read one, then his questions
wouldn't be so out there.
When Steve's position is NOT Defensible he promotes someone's book of
"Opinions" Rather than official evidence/testimony.
tomnln
Tell us how the mob got the Secret Service to cover it up
Tell us how the mob got the FBI to cover it up
Tell us how the mob got the Media to cover it up
Tell us how the mob got the CIA to cover it up
Tell us how the mob got the WCR to cover it up
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Glad to see thast you Finally figured out that the mob did NOT have the
power to cover it up.
The Cover up was perpetrated by elements of Gov't/Media.
Withheld evidence
Altered evidence
Lied
Destroyed evidence
Suborned Perjury from witnesses
Intimidated witnesses.
ALL of which are Felonies called Obstruction of Justice.
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Steve Thomas
> The cover up started within minutes of the shooting when the Secret
> Service ordered the limo washed out with a bucket of water.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
>
> WHAT the hell did THEY have to do with the Castro Assassination
> attempts???
>
> Marsh is STILL an WCR Apologist !
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>
> "Anthony Marsh" <anthony_ma...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Steve is the one who brought the CIA into "Suspects" within our posts.
tomnln wont read posts lol, and when he does he still gets it
wrong.
Steve Thomas
>
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> On Jun 27, 9:55 am, "Martin Shackelford" <msha...@charter.net> wrote:
>
> > Actually reading the book might clear up this question for you, Thalia.
>
> I read the first one, not going to pay for another one when the first
> was filled with speculation. Tomnln should read one, then his questions
> wouldn't be so out there.
>
> When Steve's position is NOT Defensible he promotes someone's book of
> "Opinions" Rather than official evidence/testimony.
What position would that be? I'm not promoting a book, look at the
title of the thread we are in Einstein! Its obvious to anyone reading that
you cant understand the concept, so i just suggested you read the book.
Robert
> The fascinating new book Havana Nocturne, about the Mob in Cuba, adds
> some interesting background to the organized crime scenario--including
> the orgy arranged for JFK by Santo Trafficante; the Trafficante-John Martino
> relationship; Batista and Freeport Sulphur, which became involved later in
> anti-Castro activities; connections between Lewis McWillie and Martin Fox
> (Ruby's testimony refers to both); Sturgis tied to the CIA, and Sturgis
> serves
> as Lansky's go-between with them on the first Castro assassination scheme.
>
> Martin
Very good point Martin, and the fact that the Mob was culpable in other
"hits" with the CIA (secondary or primary) makes the notion of them being
involved in the JFK/RFK hits all the more likely. Obviously they got a lot
of help from various government programs (Mongoose, etc...) and in the
cover-up afterwards.
They had the motive (they hated the Kennedys who were prosecuting them and
destroying them at an alarming rate), the means (access to many great
assassins and ties to the CIA and Hoover), and the opportunity (ties to
CIA and Hoover and the hits being scheduled in their areas of influence
(Chicago, Tampa/Miami, and Dallas) that made it possible for their
cooperation. I would something that is my opinion as well, they are the
brokers of drugs and sex for the super rich who do not want to get their
hands dirty with that sort of thing (like the bootlegging of the 20's and
30's), thus they are the "tools" of this group just like the CIA was,
Hoover was and LBJ was. They all fit under one "umbrella" and some have
said that is what the "Umbrella Man" was telling JFK on 11/22/63.
> "Robert Harris" <reharr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:reharris1-B8266...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net...
>
>
>
> > It's rare these days that Fox News and CNN can agree on any
> > controversial topic, but they do in their endorsement of Lamar Waldron's
> > newest book, which reveals that Carlos Marcello actually admitted to a
> > reliable FBI informant that he ordered the assassination.
>
> > They also discuss the fact that the mafia tried to set up prior
> > assassination attempts in Chicago and Tampa. You can see the interview
> > here:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exXDcu-yRiw&feature=channel_page
>
> > Robert Harris- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Anthony Marsh
One thing that YOU failed to mention was that Hoover himself said that
Ruby came from the hoodlum element in Chicago. Whose interest does it
serve for you to fail to mention that fact?
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Or, the Secret Service??? The Secret Service ordered the limo washed out
>> with a bucket of water within Minutes of the shooting.
>
>
>
> Well i don't see how that proves anything. Could it have been a
> (gasp) mistake?
>
Doesn't prove anything. It indicates sloppy crime scene handling and the
potential of losing evidence.
>
>
>
>>
>> Do you think the FBI was workin]g with the mob to kill castro?
>
>
>
> They sure didn't mention it to the WC, and they knew about the
> mob and CIA.
>
Even Belin complained about this.
>
>
>
>> Do you think the DPD were working with the mob to kill Castro?
>
>
>
>
> No, but the DPD was pretty darn crooked at the time, you think it
> was like that because they were corrupted by the boy scouts?
>
>
>
>
>> Do you think the S S were working with the mob to kill Castro?
>
>
>
>
> What leads you to believe the SS did anything other than screw
> up?
>
>
Not my theory, but what if conspirators intentionally put incompetent
people in charge to make their work easier? Wasn't the guy who burned
down the Reichstagg a simpleton who did what anyone told him to do?
tomnln
On Jun 27, 10:19 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Steve Thomas" <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:be8eab05-43cc-40bb...@a7g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 27, 9:55 am, "Martin Shackelford" <msha...@charter.net> wrote:
>
> > Actually reading the book might clear up this question for you, Thalia.
>
> I read the first one, not going to pay for another one when the first
> was filled with speculation. Tomnln should read one, then his questions
> wouldn't be so out there.
>
> When Steve's position is NOT Defensible he promotes someone's book of
> "Opinions" Rather than official evidence/testimony.
steve wrote;
What position would that be? I'm not promoting a book, look at the
title of the thread we are in Einstein! Its obvious to anyone reading that
you cant understand the concept, so i just suggested you read the book.
I write;
Your position is to support the Lies of ther Warren Commission.
I suggest you read the evidence/testimony given under oath in the 26
volumes.
Until then, all you offer is "Opinion". (yours/others)
Would you care to address the Evidence Tampering by the authorities?
SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
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tomnln
On Jun 27, 10:19 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> Steve is the one who brought the CIA into "Suspects" within our posts.
tomnln wont read posts lol, and when he does he still gets it
wrong.
steve won't read the evidence/testimony, that's why he gets /Everything
WRONG !
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tomnln
On Jun 27, 10:19 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> The cover up started within minutes of the shooting when the Secret
> Service ordered the limo washed out with a bucket of water.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Steve Slept through that one TOO ! ! !
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Martin Shackelford
How can you look at the color photos of the limo interior and believe that
the limo was "washed out with a bucket of water" "within minutes of the
shooting"?
That's just nonsense.
Martin
"tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Steve Thomas
> "Steve Thomas" <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> On Jun 27, 10:19 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > The cover up started within minutes of the shooting when the Secret
> > Service ordered the limo washed out with a bucket of water.
>
> ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
>
> Steve Slept through that one TOO ! ! !
Nope, but i slept through your ridiculous theory that the SS knew
there would be a cover up within minutes of the shooting.
Martin Shackelford
Martin
"tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Anthony Marsh
> On Jun 28, 10:26 pm, "tomnln"<tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>> "Steve Thomas"<misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:8c2ad568-c6a5-49cd...@c9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 27, 10:19 pm, "tomnln"<tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The cover up started within minutes of the shooting when the Secret
>>> Service ordered the limo washed out with a bucket of water.
>>
>> ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
>>
>> Steve Slept through that one TOO ! ! !
>
>
>
>
> Nope, but i slept through your ridiculous theory that the SS knew
> there would be a cover up within minutes of the shooting.
>
>
The government always covers up regardless of the event. No one said
that meant that the SS were part of the assassination planning.
tomnln
On Jun 28, 10:26 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Steve Thomas" <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8c2ad568-c6a5-49cd...@c9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 27, 10:19 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > The cover up started within minutes of the shooting when the Secret
> > Service ordered the limo washed out with a bucket of water.
>
> ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
>
> Steve Slept through that one TOO ! ! !
Nope, but i slept through your ridiculous theory that the SS knew
there would be a cover up within minutes of the shooting.
Are you Denying that the Limo was ordered washed out with a bucket of water
at Parkland Hospital?
Steve Thomas
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO? They did what they thought
they had to, and i wouldn't take your word to convict anyone anyway,
thats for sure.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Steve Thomas
> "Steve Thomas" <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:bdf076d0-f4b5-410c...@g1g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 27, 10:19 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:> "Steve Thomas" <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:be8eab05-43cc-40bb...@a7g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jun 27, 9:55 am, "Martin Shackelford" <msha...@charter.net> wrote:
>
> > > Actually reading the book might clear up this question for you, Thalia.
>
> > I read the first one, not going to pay for another one when the first
> > was filled with speculation. Tomnln should read one, then his questions
> > wouldn't be so out there.
>
> > When Steve's position is NOT Defensible he promotes someone's book of
> > "Opinions" Rather than official evidence/testimony.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> steve wrote;
>
> What position would that be? I'm not promoting a book, look at the
> title of the thread we are in Einstein! Its obvious to anyone reading that
> you cant understand the concept, so i just suggested you read the book.
>
> I write;
>
> Your position is to support the Lies of ther Warren Commission.
ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, another one of those kind of people, they are
everywhere huh tomnln?
>
> I suggest you read the evidence/testimony given under oath in the 26
> volumes.
I'm afraid if i did that id turn into a lunatic like some people.
>
> Until then, all you offer is "Opinion". (yours/others)
all you offer is opinion as well, that's what goes on here in case
you didn't notice.
>
> Would you care to address the Evidence Tampering by the authorities?
>
> SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
I'v been there, some good stuff, but it doesn't change the fact
that nobody said the mob had the power to cover anything up.
Steve Thomas
> "Steve Thomas" <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> On Jun 27, 10:19 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Steve is the one who brought the CIA into "Suspects" within our posts.
>
> tomnln wont read posts lol, and when he does he still gets it
> wrong.
>
> steve won't read the evidence/testimony, that's why he gets /Everything
> WRONG !
Haven't got anything wrong yet, you did when you couldn't
understand the premise of the book.
tomnln
That's what I used several times to make you & your Speculations look bad.
SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/you_asked_for_it.htm
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tomnln
Hill testified to seeing?
Do you need Citations that the Limo was Ordered washed out?
Do you need photos of Secret Service WITH that bucket of water AT the Limo?
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Anthony Marsh
> Marsh is no WCR apologist, and you should know that.
> How can you look at the color photos of the limo interior and believe that
> the limo was "washed out with a bucket of water" "within minutes of the
> shooting"?
> That's just nonsense.
>
The limo was not thoroughly washed out, but the back seat was.
Dave Yandell
> It's rare these days that Fox News and CNN can agree on any
> controversial topic, but they do in their endorsement of Lamar Waldron's
> newest book, which reveals that Carlos Marcello actually admitted to a
> reliable FBI informant that he ordered the assassination.
Just out of curiosity, how do you figure that the organizations have
"endorsed" the book? I honestly don't understand what that is supposed to
mean in this context. Did Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes have a press
conference that we all missed? How would CNN "endorse" a book? Joint
communique from the board?
Just seeking clarification,
Dave
tomnln
swteve wrote;
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO? They did what they thought
they had to, and i wouldn't take your word to convict anyone anyway,
thats for sure.
I write;
Those ALL came from the 26 Volumes.
Just proves that you know NOTHING of evidence/testimony.
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tomnln
On Jun 28, 10:24 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Steve Thomas" <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:bdf076d0-f4b5-410c...@g1g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 27, 10:19 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:> "Steve Thomas"
> <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:be8eab05-43cc-40bb...@a7g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jun 27, 9:55 am, "Martin Shackelford" <msha...@charter.net> wrote:
>
> > > Actually reading the book might clear up this question for you,
> > > Thalia.
>
> > I read the first one, not going to pay for another one when the first
> > was filled with speculation. Tomnln should read one, then his questions
> > wouldn't be so out there.
>
> > When Steve's position is NOT Defensible he promotes someone's book of
> > "Opinions" Rather than official evidence/testimony.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> steve wrote;
>
> What position would that be? I'm not promoting a book, look at the
> title of the thread we are in Einstein! Its obvious to anyone reading that
> you cant understand the concept, so i just suggested you read the book.
>
> I write;
>
> Your position is to support the Lies of ther Warren Commission.
******************************
ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, another one of those kind of people, they are
everywhere huh tomnln?
Thankfully, only 10% of Americans.
*******************************
> I suggest you read the evidence/testimony given under oath in the 26
> volumes.
*******************************
I'm afraid if i did that id turn into a lunatic like some people.
In America, guilt/innosence is determined by evidence/testimony.
What Country do you represent where guilt is determined by Accusation??
********************************************
> Until then, all you offer is "Opinion". (yours/others)
**********************************
all you offer is opinion as well, that's what goes on here in case
you didn't notice.
WRONG ! What I offer is official evidence/testimony given under oath
which you are NOT familiar with.
*****************************************
> Would you care to address the Evidence Tampering by the authorities?
>
> SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
************************************
I'v been there, some good stuff, but it doesn't change the fact
that nobody said the mob had the power to cover anything up.
To say that the mob killed JFK, is to say that they also had the power to
cover it up.
YOU said the mob used people in such a way that tyhey HAD to cover it up.
*********************************
The only Proven crimes were committed by the authorities>>>
http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
Steve Thomas
> On 6/29/2009 10:49 AM, Steve Thomas wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 28, 10:26 pm, "tomnln"<tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> "Steve Thomas"<misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:8c2ad568-c6a5-49cd...@c9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Jun 27, 10:19 pm, "tomnln"<tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>> The cover up started within minutes of the shooting when the Secret
> >>> Service ordered the limo washed out with a bucket of water.
>
> >> ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
>
> >> Steve Slept through that one TOO ! ! !
>
> > Nope, but i slept through your ridiculous theory that the SS knew
> > there would be a cover up within minutes of the shooting.
>
> The government always covers up regardless of the event
Sure, sure Marsh! LMAO!
Steve Thomas
> "Steve Thomas" <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f1066ec6-66db-4dae...@l12g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 28, 10:26 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > "Steve Thomas" <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:8c2ad568-c6a5-49cd...@c9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jun 27, 10:19 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > The cover up started within minutes of the shooting when the Secret
> > > Service ordered the limo washed out with a bucket of water.
>
> > ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
>
> > Steve Slept through that one TOO ! ! !
>
> Nope, but i slept through your ridiculous theory that the SS knew
> there would be a cover up within minutes of the shooting.
>
> Are you Denying that the Limo was ordered washed out with a bucket of water
> at Parkland Hospital?
Good Lord! Tomnln found the smoking gun! LOL
Martin Shackelford
Martin
"tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
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tomnln
On Jun 29, 3:14 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Steve Thomas" <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f1066ec6-66db-4dae...@l12g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 28, 10:26 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > "Steve Thomas" <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:8c2ad568-c6a5-49cd...@c9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jun 27, 10:19 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > The cover up started within minutes of the shooting when the Secret
> > > Service ordered the limo washed out with a bucket of water.
>
> > ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
>
> > Steve Slept through that one TOO ! ! !
>
> Nope, but i slept through your ridiculous theory that the SS knew
> there would be a cover up within minutes of the shooting.
>
> Are you Denying that the Limo was ordered washed out with a bucket of
> water
> at Parkland Hospital?
steve wrote;
Good Lord! Tomnln found the smoking gun! LOL
I write;
Only enough to make you look BAD ! ! !
Steve Thomas
In America "guilt/innosence" is determined by a jury made up of
those shmucks down the street, ust like the WC.
>
> ********************************************
>
> > Until then, all you offer is "Opinion". (yours/others)
>
> **********************************
> all you offer is opinion as well, that's what goes on here in case
> you didn't notice.
>
> WRONG ! What I offer is official evidence/testimony given under oath
> which you are NOT familiar with.
None of it amounts to a hill of beans though, only after you
twist it with your speculation and opinion.
> *****************************************
>
> > Would you care to address the Evidence Tampering by the authorities?
>
> > SEE>>>http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>
> ************************************
> I'v been there, some good stuff, but it doesn't change the fact
> that nobody said the mob had the power to cover anything up.
>
> To say that the mob killed JFK, is to say that they also had the power to
> cover it up.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH you STILL cant grasp the concept of the book
then, oh well!
>
> YOU said the mob used people in such a way that tyhey HAD to cover it up.
Ill correct you one more time. IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII am
not saying ANYTHING, the book referenced in the title of the thread
says "the mob used people in such a way that they HAD to cover it up"
not me. I was just pointing out that i didn't understand why some
people like you cant grasp the idea that the mob maybe didn't have to
cover it up, if they did it at all.
> *********************************
>
> The only Proven crimes were committed by the authorities>>>http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
>
The only proven crime is having to sift through another one of
your posts on this newsgroup LOL
Steve Thomas
Or it proves you cant get it through your head that your opinion
about the 26 volumes doesn't make it fact.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
Martin Shackelford
have the Parkland photos, and know the cites--but use your eyes and your
brain-- the interior of the back seat is a total mess, covered in blood,
brain matter, etc.-- does that really looked "washed out" to you?
Martin
"tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Martin Shackelford
Blood, brain matter, flowers--AFTER washing out?
Martin
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tomnln
white shack! ! !
SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/you_asked_for_it.htm
My point being that "YOU can't deceive us".
Do you STILL wanna involve the mob???
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tomnln
On Jun 25, 10:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Steve Thomas" <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> On Jun 24, 10:03 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > "Steve Thomas" <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> > On Jun 22, 10:18 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:> "Gerry Simone"
> > <newdecent...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:4a3fc427$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu...
>
> > > > Well said.
>
> > > > Also, HSCA Chief Counsel Robert Blakey concluded that the mob had
> > > > the
> > > > means, motive and opportunity to kill the President.
>
> > > Blakey forgot to tell us HOW the mob had the power to cover-it-up !
>
>
> > steve wrote;
>
> > That last statement has been answered to death, so why are you stuck on
> > that
> > the mob used people in such a way that the Feds HAD to cover it up.
> > Maybe
> > you just cant sit still long enough to take in what other people are
> > saying?
>
> > I write;
>
> > I prefer official evidence/testimony given under oath than some author's
> > "opinion".
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> steve wrote;
>
> OK show me the evidence/testimony that says the CIA did it.
>
> I write;
>
> You have a Very Suspicious mind !
>
> What makes you think the CIA "did it"?
>
> I've NEVER said the CIA did it !
>
> Are you gonna tell us HOW the mob had the powewr to cover it up?
> (Ididn't think so)
steve wrote;
Well for the third time, no one said the mob had the power to
cover anything up.
I write;
Well, for the third time;
This is what you wrote.
" The story is that the mob used people in such a way that the Feds HAD to
cover it up."
So, tell us HOW the mob "used the people" listed below that participated
in the cover-up?
You'll do Anything to avoid addressing evidence/testimony.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Tell us how the mob controlled all of those listed below !
>
> What kind of American would believe that the Mafia has complete control
> over....
> DPD
> Texas State Police
> FBI
> CIA
> ONI
> NSA
> State Dept.
> ABC news
> CBS news
> NBC news
> Major Print media
> House of Representatives
> U S Senate
> 10% of the American People
>
> Even Communists DON't make those Claims !
>
> Well you just proved my point, no one said the mob had control over
> any of that which you listed so here it is again
>
> Have you read Legacy of Doubt or Legacy of Secrecy? The story is that the
> mob used people in such a way that the Feds HAD to cover it up. Maybe you
> just cant sit still long enough to take in what other people are saying?
>
> NAME THEM ! ! !
>
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
tomnln
AGAIN; The Limo was ordered washed out by the authorities within minutes of
the shooting while still at Parkland Hospital.
Marsh injected the word "thoroughly: into the subject. (as usual)
The cover-up was perpetrated by the authorities.
"Martin Shackelford" <msh...@charter.net> wrote in message
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tomnln
> The skull piece had been sent to Bethesda before the photos were taken. I
> have the Parkland photos, and know the cites--but use your eyes and your
> brain-- the interior of the back seat is a total mess, covered in blood,
> brain matter, etc.-- does that really looked "washed out" to you?
>
> Martin
GREAT Martin;
Just produce official records to support your claim.
Along with Chain of posession.
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Steve Thomas
That is the whole point of the book, i didn't write it. Take it up
with Hartman.
>
> So, tell us HOW the mob "used the people" listed below that participated
> in the cover-up?
Well your specifics about the SS were quite lame, i suspect the
rest are as well. Any other allegations you would like debunked?
Martin Shackelford
Martin
"Steve Thomas" <misled...@aol.com> wrote in message
Well for the third time, no one said the mob had the power to
cover anything up.
>
tomnln
> steve wrote;
>
> Well for the third time, no one said the mob had the power to
> cover anything up.
>
>
> O K steve;
>
> it up"???
>
> ps;
>
> You never told us why you suspect the CIA?
steve wrote;
I don't suspect the CIA dude, that's your gig.
I write;
I NEVER said the CIA did it.
I said the CIA participated in the cover it up.
YOU brought them into suspicion.
I see you're still Running from these crimes>>>
http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > Tell us how the mob controlled all of those listed below !>> > What kind of American would believe that the Mafia has complete control> > over....> > DPD> > Texas State Police> > FBI> > CIA> > ONI> > NSA> > State Dept.> > ABC news> > CBS news> > NBC news> > Major Print media> > House of Representatives> > U S Senate> > 10% of the American People>> > Even Communists DON't make those Claims !>> > Well you just proved my point, no one said the mob had control over> > any of that which you listed so here it is again>> > Have you read Legacy of Doubt or Legacy of Secrecy? The story is thatthe> > mob used people in such a way that the Feds HAD to cover it up. Maybeyou> > just cant sit still long enough to take in what other people are saying?>> > NAME THEM ! ! !>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------->> > > > > "Robert Harris" <reharr...
@yahoo.com> wrote in message> > > >>news:reharris1-9D946...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net...> > > > >> In article> > > > >><53558b50-bd4d-4a27-91c6-c1a1fa5b0...@u10g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,> > > > >> ss679x <ss6...@gmail.com> wrote:>> > > > >>> On Jun 20, 9:07 am, Robert Harris <reharr...@yahoo.com> wrote:> > > > >>> > It's rare these days that Fox News and CNN can agree on any> > > > >>> > controversial topic, but they do in their endorsement of Lamar> > > > >>> > Waldron's> > > > >>> > newest book, which reveals that Carlos Marcello actually> > > > >>> > admitted> > > > >>> > to> > > > >>> > a> > > > >>> > reliable FBI informant that he ordered the assassination.>> > > > >>> > They also discuss the fact that the mafia tried to set upprior> > > > >>> > assassination attempts in Chicago and Tampa. You can see the> > > > >>> > interview> > > > >>> > here:>> > > > >>> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exXDcu-yRiw&feature=channel_page>> > > > >>> > Robert Harris>>
> > > >>> Of course, doesn't that beg the question that Marcello did not> > > > >>> have> > > > >>> the ability to orchestrate the assassination nor to provide the> > > > >>> cover-> > > > >>> up?>> > > > >> Of course Marcello had the ability. Recruiting a handful of mafia> > > > >> goons> > > > >> doesn't exactly require a genius if you are in charge of themafia> > > > >> in> > > > >> that region.>> > > > >> But you are right that he did not have the power to coverup the> > > > >> conspiracy. However, the mafia's best friend, Mr. J. EdgarHoover,> > > > >> did.>> > > > >> Hope that helps.>> > > > >> Robert Harris
tomnln
On Jun 25, 10:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Steve Thomas" <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> On Jun 24, 10:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Lemmee rephrase;
>
> > Did the mob have the power to FORCE elements of Gov't/Media to......
> > Withhhold evidence
>
> The mob didn't need that power if sensitive operations would be
> compromised through a truthful investigation.
>
> NAME THEM
steve wrote;
Name who? You really don't care to understand what the books LOS or
LOD are about! No use arguing with you, until you have done the
reading. Not only that, im not defending Legacy of Secrecy i think
these 2 leftards are idiots, but i will point out when someone raises
a straw man argument. The story is that the mob did the assassination
in such a way as to cause a cover up. NO ONE SUGGESTED THE MOB HAD THE
POWER OVER YOUR LIST! Get a clue.
I write;
Explain WHY all of those entities would participate in a cover up to Protect
the mob?
The Warren Commission knew NOTHING of the CIA/mob Castro Assassination
plots.
The DPD knew NOTHING of the CIA/mob Castro Assassination plots.
The State Department knew NOTHING of the CIA/mob Castro Assassination plots.
The U S Senate knew NOTHING of the CIA/mob Castro Assassination plots.
The House of Represenatives knew NOTHING of the CIA/mob Castro Assassination
plots.
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> > Alter evidence
> > Destroy evidence
> > Lie
> > Suborn Perjury
> > Intimidate witnesses
>
> > "Gerry Simone" <newdecent...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:4a41413c$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu...
>
> > > Who said that the Mob covered it up in the first place?
>
> > > The conspiracy to murder the President and the cover-up don't have to
> > > be
> > > the product of the same party(s).
>
> > > "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
> > >news:f9V%l.9896$t_7...@newsfe20.iad...
>
> > >> "Gerry Simone" <newdecent...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:4a3fc427$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu...
> > >>> Well said.
>
> > >>> Also, HSCA Chief Counsel Robert Blakey concluded that the mob had
> > >>> the
> > >>> means, motive and opportunity to kill the President.
>
> > >> Blakey forgot to tell us HOW the mob had the power to cover-it-up !
>
> > >>> "Robert Harris" <reharr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
tomnln
On Jun 27, 9:55 am, "Martin Shackelford" <msha...@charter.net> wrote:
> Actually reading the book might clear up this question for you, Thalia.
steve wrote;
I read the first one, not going to pay for another one when the first
was filled with speculation. Tomnln should read one, then his questions
wouldn't be so out there.
I write;
One with no knowledge of official evidence/testimony has no business giving
reading advice on the case.
See if steve will address these crimes>>>
http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
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> Martin
>
> "Thalia" <thaliac...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>
> news:df1cb103-0a6a-4ba6...@v35g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 20, 10:07 pm, Robert Harris <reharr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > It's rare these days that Fox News and CNN can agree on any
> > controversial topic, but they do in their endorsement of Lamar Waldron's
> > newest book, which reveals that Carlos Marcello actually admitted to a
> > reliable FBI informant that he ordered the assassination.
>
> > They also discuss the fact that the mafia tried to set up prior
> > assassination attempts in Chicago and Tampa. You can see the interview
> > here:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exXDcu-yRiw&feature=channel_page
>
> > Robert Harris
>
Martin Shackelford
yourself. I have no doubt that elements of CIA, Cubans and Mob were
involved. Trying to flim flam people by referring them to pages full of a
mish-mash of misleading claims and selected documents doesn't change
anything. By the way, even the carefully cropped fragment of limo back
seat photo on that page shows blood still on the back seat. Otherwise,
your pages are a series of selective bits of evidence focused on trying to
discredit anyone who disagrees with you, masquerading as "research."
Martin
"tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
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tomnln
YOU SAW FIT TO RECCOMEND IT !
>
> So, tell us HOW the mob "used the people" listed below that participated
> in the cover-up?
Well your specifics about the SS were quite lame, i suspect the
rest are as well. Any other allegations you would like debunked?
YOU RAN FROM THE QUESTION.
YOUR "DENIAL" IS NOT "DEBUNKED"
Anthony Marsh
> The back seat photos show that it WASN'T "thoroughly washed out."
> Blood, brain matter, flowers--AFTER washing out?
>
Which photos? Show me the red roses and red petals in those photos.
Whatever the guy was doing he had a bloody bucket of water next to the
limo, a cloth in his hand and he was leaning into the back seat area doing
something in there. My point is not that it was thoroughly washed out. My
point is that the order was given, the bucket of water was brought out and
that an agent was washing down the back seat. The intent was not just to
wash down the points of contact to put the roof on. The agent was still
washing out the back seat AFTER the roof had been put on.
Anthony Marsh
> The skull piece had been sent to Bethesda before the photos were taken. I
> have the Parkland photos, and know the cites--but use your eyes and your
> brain-- the interior of the back seat is a total mess, covered in blood,
> brain matter, etc.-- does that really looked "washed out" to you?
>
Again, no one said it was thoroughly washed out. Just that an attempt
was made to clean it up. An order was given and carried out.
tomnln
white shack! ! !
SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/you_asked_for_it.htm
"Martin Shackelford" <msh...@charter.net> wrote in message
news:OlF2m.899$_S2...@newsfe17.iad...
Steve Thomas
> "Steve Thomas" <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8c8ed5ad-5d78-4b66...@j14g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 25, 10:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:> "Steve Thomas" <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1c6e276b-2ae0-4974...@j9g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jun 24, 10:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > Lemmee rephrase;
>
> > > Did the mob have the power to FORCE elements of Gov't/Media to......
> > > Withhhold evidence
>
> > The mob didn't need that power if sensitive operations would be
> > compromised through a truthful investigation.
>
> > NAME THEM
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> steve wrote;
>
> Name who? You really don't care to understand what the books LOS or
> LOD are about! No use arguing with you, until you have done the
> reading. Not only that, im not defending Legacy of Secrecy i think
> these 2 leftards are idiots, but i will point out when someone raises
> a straw man argument. The story is that the mob did the assassination
> in such a way as to cause a cover up. NO ONE SUGGESTED THE MOB HAD THE
> POWER OVER YOUR LIST! Get a clue.
>
> I write;
>
> Explain WHY all of those entities would participate in a cover up to Protect
> the mob?
Who said they ALL were covering up except you? Do you have any
testimony or documents that say the SS was involved in a cover up
"within minutes of the shooting?" or is it YOUR OPINION they were
covering up?
>
> The Warren Commission knew NOTHING of the CIA/mob Castro Assassination
> plots.
So?
> The DPD knew NOTHING of the CIA/mob Castro Assassination plots.
So?
> The State Department knew NOTHING of the CIA/mob Castro Assassination plots.
So?
> The U S Senate knew NOTHING of the CIA/mob Castro Assassination plots.
So?
> The House of Represenatives knew NOTHING of the CIA/mob Castro Assassination
> plots.
So?
Steve Thomas
This thread was started by Shackelford buddy, HE "reccomended" it. I
only pointed out that you couldn't understand it, and you still cant.
>
>
>
> > So, tell us HOW the mob "used the people" listed below that participated
> > in the cover-up?
>
> Well your specifics about the SS were quite lame, i suspect the
> rest are as well. Any other allegations you would like debunked?
>
> YOU RAN FROM THE QUESTION.
> YOUR "DENIAL" IS NOT "DEBUNKED"
I ran from nothing, i explained how ridiculous your theory is having
the SS covering up "within minutes of the shooting."
Steve Thomas
Nope, just took a subject from your list.
Anthony Marsh
> The items that I had to straighten you out on are there in black and,
> white shack! ! !
>
> SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/catch_of_the_day.htm
>
> SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/you_asked_for_it.htm
>
You have a habit of putting 20-30 irrelevant documents on one page which
never address the specific point.
Steve Thomas
> "Steve Thomas" <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:be8eab05-43cc-40bb...@a7g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 27, 9:55 am, "Martin Shackelford" <msha...@charter.net> wrote:> Actually reading the book might clear up this question for you, Thalia.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> steve wrote;
>
> I read the first one, not going to pay for another one when the first
> was filled with speculation. Tomnln should read one, then his questions
> wouldn't be so out there.
>
> I write;
>
> One with no knowledge of official evidence/testimony has no business giving
> reading advice on the case.
And someone with no knowledge of LOS or LOD should not give
advice on a theory they have never read.
> See if steve will address these crimes>>>http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
None of what is on your page conflicts with Hartman's book, much of
it corroborates what is in LOD and LOS.
Martin Shackelford
Martin
"Anthony Marsh" <anthon...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4a48...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu...
> On 6/29/2009 9:42 AM, Martin Shackelford wrote:
>> Marsh is no WCR apologist, and you should know that.
>> How can you look at the color photos of the limo interior and believe
>> that
>> the limo was "washed out with a bucket of water" "within minutes of the
>> shooting"?
>> That's just nonsense.
>>
>
> The limo was not thoroughly washed out, but the back seat was.
>
>> Martin
>>
>> "tomnln"<tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:g8B1m.1043$4Q1...@newsfe01.iad...
>>>
>>> The cover up started within minutes of the shooting when the Secret
>>> Service ordered the limo washed out with a bucket of water.
>>>
>>> WHAT the hell did THEY have to do with the Castro Assassination
>>> attempts???
>>>
>>> Marsh is STILL an WCR Apologist !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Anthony Marsh"<anthon...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4a465ccb$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu...
>>>> On 6/26/2009 10:46 PM, Steve Thomas wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 25, 10:06 pm, "tomnln"<tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>> "Steve Thomas"<misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>> news:1c6e276b-2ae0-4974...@j9g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> On Jun 24, 10:06 pm, "tomnln"<tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lemmee rephrase;
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did the mob have the power to FORCE elements of Gov't/Media to......
>>>>>>> Withhhold evidence
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The mob didn't need that power if sensitive operations would be
>>>>>> compromised through a truthful investigation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NAME THEM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Name who? You really don't care to understand what the books LOS
>>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> Name whom?
>>>> I think he was asking for someone to name the "sensitive operations"
>>>> such
>>>> as the Castro assassination plots.
>>>> Or perhaps the bugging operations in Mexico.
>>>> Stuff like that.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 9:07 am, Robert Harris<reharr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's rare these days that Fox News and CNN can agree on any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> controversial topic, but they do in their endorsement of Lamar
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waldron's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> newest book, which reveals that Carlos Marcello actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>> admitted
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reliable FBI informant that he ordered the assassination.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They also discuss the fact that the mafia tried to set up
>>>>>>>>>>>>> prior
>>>>>>>>>>>>> assassination attempts in Chicago and Tampa. You can see the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> interview
>>>>>>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exXDcu-yRiw&feature=channel_page
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Harris
>>>>>>
Martin Shackelford
Martin
"tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
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tomnln
> Do the color photos of the back seat really look to you like it was
> washed?
>
> Martin
>
They SURE DO, until you can show the "large piece os JFK's skull with hair
on it" that Clint Hill testified to
> "Anthony Marsh" <anthon...@comcast.net> wrote in message
tomnln
> Rambling again.
>
> Martin
>
And, You're BUSTED Again ! ! !
tomnln
>
> "Martin Shackelford" <msh...@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:F7k2m.3218$WJ3...@newsfe15.iad...
>> The skull piece had been sent to Bethesda before the photos were taken. I
>> have the Parkland photos, and know the cites--but use your eyes and your
>> brain-- the interior of the back seat is a total mess, covered in blood,
>> brain matter, etc.-- does that really looked "washed out" to you?
>>
>> Martin
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Just produce official records to support your claim.
Along with Chain of posession.
Shack musta Missed this one
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->>>>>>>> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in messagenews:Ff62m.1703$hB1....@newsfe11.iad...>>> Do those photos show the large piece of skull with hair on it that ClintHill testified to seeing?>>>>>> Do you need Citations that the Limo was Ordered washed out?>>> Do you need photos of Secret Service WITH that bucket of water AT theLimo?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Martin Shackelford" <msh...@charter.net> wrote in messagenews:I7Z1m.888$Ei4...@newsfe13.iad...>>>> Marsh is no WCR apologist, and you should know that.>>>> How can you look at the color photos of the limo interior and believethat>>>> the limo was "washed out with a bucket of water" "within minutes of theshooting"?>>>> That's just nonsense.>>>>>>>> Martin>>>>>>>> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in messagenews:g8B1m.1043$4Q1...@newsfe01.iad...>>>>>>>>>> The cover up started within minutes of the shooting when the SecretServi
ce ordered the limo washed out with a bucket of water.>>>>>>>>>> WHAT the hell did THEY have to do with the Castro Assassinationattempts???>>>>>>>>>> Marsh is STILL an WCR Apologist !>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Anthony Marsh" <anthon...@comcast.net> wrote in messagenews:4a465ccb$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu...>>>>>> On 6/26/2009 10:46 PM, Steve Thomas wrote:>>>>>>> On Jun 25, 10:06 pm, "tomnln"<tom...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>> "Steve Thomas"<misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:1c6e276b-2ae0-4974...@j9g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...>>>>>>>> On Jun 24, 10:06 pm, "tomnln"<tom...@cox.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lemmee rephrase;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did the mob have the power to FORCE elements of Gov't/Mediato......>>>>>>>>> Withhhold evidence>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The mob didn't need that power if sensitive operations would be>>>>>>>> compromised through a truthful investigation.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NAME THEM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Name who?
You really don't care to understand what the books LOSor>>>>>>>>>>>> Name whom?>>>>>> I think he was asking for someone to name the "sensitive operations"such as the Castro assassination plots.>>>>>> Or perhaps the bugging operations in Mexico.>>>>>> Stuff like that.>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOD are about! No use arguing with you, until you have done the>>>>>>> reading. Not only that, im not defending Legacy of Secrecy i think>>>>>>> these 2 leftards are idiots, but i will point out when someoneraises>>>>>>> a straw man argument. The story is that the mob did theassassination>>>>>>> in such a way as to cause a cover up. NO ONE SUGGESTED THE MOB HADTHE>>>>>>> POWER OVER YOUR LIST! Get a clue.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alter evidence>>>>>>>>> Destroy evidence>>>>>>>>> Lie>>>>>>>>> Suborn Perjury>>>>>>>>> Intimidate witnesses>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gerry Simone"<newdecent...@hotmail.com> wrote in message>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4a41413c$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu...>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> Who said that the Mob covered it up in the first place?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The conspiracy to murder the President and the cover-up don'thave to be>>>>>>>>>> the product of the same party(s).>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "tomnln"<tom...@cox.net> wrote in message>>>>>>>>>> news:f9V%l.9896$t_7...@newsfe20.iad...>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gerry Simone"<newdecent...@hotmail.com> wrote in message>>>>>>>>>>> news:4a3fc427$1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu...>>>>>>>>>>>> Well said.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, HSCA Chief Counsel Robert Blakey concluded that the mobhad the>>>>>>>>>>>> means, motive and opportunity to kill the President.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blakey forgot to tell us HOW the mob had the power tocover-it-up !>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Robert Harris"<reharr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message>>>>>>>>>>>>news:reharris1-9D946...@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net...>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article>>>>>>>>>>>>><53558b50-bd4d-4a27-91c6-c1a1fa5b0...@u10g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,>>>>>>>>>>>>> ss679x<ss6...@gmai
l.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 9:07 am, Robert Harris<reharr...@yahoo.com>wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's rare these days that Fox News and CNN can agree on any>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controversial topic, but they do in their endorsement ofLamar>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waldron's>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> newest book, which reveals that Carlos Marcello actuallyadmitted>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reliable FBI informant that he ordered the assassination.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They also discuss the fact that the mafia tried to set upprior>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assassination attempts in Chicago and Tampa. You can see the>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interview>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exXDcu-yRiw&feature=channel_page>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Harris>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, doesn't that beg the question that Marcello didnot have>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ability to orchestrate the assassination nor to providethe>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cover->>>>>>>>>
>>>>> up?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course Marcello had the ability. Recruiting a handful ofmafia>>>>>>>>>>>>> goons>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't exactly require a genius if you are in charge of themafia in>>>>>>>>>>>>> that region.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you are right that he did not have the power to coverupthe>>>>>>>>>>>>> conspiracy. However, the mafia's best friend, Mr. J. EdgarHoover,>>>>>>>>>>>>> did.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope that helps.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Harris>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
tomnln
The Limo was ordered "washed out" with a bucket of water.
Do you NEED the "Multiple" Citations for that????
The large piece of JFK's skull with hair on it that Clint Hill testified
to is NOT in thiose limo photos.
"Steve Thomas" <misled...@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 1, 11:11 am, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Steve Thomas" <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8c8ed5ad-5d78-4b66...@j14g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 25, 10:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:> "Steve Thomas"
> <misledrks...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1c6e276b-2ae0-4974...@j9g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jun 24, 10:06 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > Lemmee rephrase;
>
> > > Did the mob have the power to FORCE elements of Gov't/Media to......
> > > Withhhold evidence
>
> > The mob didn't need that power if sensitive operations would be
> > compromised through a truthful investigation.
>
> > NAME THEM
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
So?
So?
So?
So?
So?
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
Anthony Marsh
> Do the color photos of the back seat really look to you like it was washed?
>
Yes. I don't see the rose petals. I never said thoroughly. I might even
say superficially.
Anthony Marsh
>
Look at those again. Where are all the little bits of brain matter? Skull
fragments?
Steve Thomas
> The Secret Service were "In Charge" at Parkland Hospital.
Ok
>
> The Limo was ordered "washed out" with a bucket of water.
OK
>
> Do you NEED the "Multiple" Citations for that????
NO
>
> The large piece of JFK's skull with hair on it that Clint Hill testified
> to is NOT in thiose limo photos.
Ok, but i dont see how you gather that the SS was involved in a cover
up with this nonsense. Care to explain it a little further?
Steve Thomas
> On 7/8/2009 8:14 AM, Martin Shackelford wrote:
>
> > Do the color photos of the back seat really look to you like it was washed?
>
> Look at those again. Where are all the little bits of brain matter? Skull
> fragments?
Maybe the SS washed the car enough so that pieces of the president's
head wouldn't be on display for any gawkers taking pictures that would
later be posted online by people like Marsh and Tomnln. I guess they
didn't realize a whole conspiracy would be made out of it though.
>
> > Martin
>
> > "Anthony Marsh"<anthony_ma...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:4a48...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu...
> >> On 6/29/2009 9:42 AM, Martin Shackelford wrote:
> >>> Marsh is no WCR apologist, and you should know that.
> >>> How can you look at the color photos of the limo interior and believe
> >>> that
> >>> the limo was "washed out with a bucket of water" "within minutes of the
> >>> shooting"?
> >>> That's just nonsense.
>
> >> The limo was not thoroughly washed out, but the back seat was.
>
> >>> Martin
>
> >>> "tomnln"<tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:g8B1m.1043$4Q1...@newsfe01.iad...
>
> >>>> The cover up started within minutes of the shooting when the Secret
> >>>> Service ordered the limo washed out with a bucket of water.
>
> >>>> WHAT the hell did THEY have to do with the Castro Assassination
> >>>> attempts???
>
> >>>> Marsh is STILL an WCR Apologist !
>
> >>>> "Anthony Marsh"<anthony_ma...@comcast.net> wrote in message
Martin Shackelford
to
Bethesda.
Martin
"Anthony Marsh" <anthon...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Anthony Marsh
> I'm guessing those were removed at Parkland, and the skull fragments sent on
> to
> Bethesda.
>
Not the tiniest skull fragments. And where are the tiny pieces of brain?
Anthony Marsh
> On Jul 8, 9:21 pm, Anthony Marsh<anthony_ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 7/8/2009 8:14 AM, Martin Shackelford wrote:
>>
>>> Do the color photos of the back seat really look to you like it was washed?
>>
>> Look at those again. Where are all the little bits of brain matter? Skull
>> fragments?
>
>
>
> Maybe the SS washed the car enough so that pieces of the president's
> head wouldn't be on display for any gawkers taking pictures that would
> later be posted online by people like Marsh and Tomnln. I guess they
> didn't realize a whole conspiracy would be made out of it though.
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Of course that is why they washed it out. And were they successful? No,
we still put the garish photos on display. That is why Earl Warren
withheld the autopsy photos. Was he successful? For a few years, but
someone leaked them. Exactly which conspiracy is made out of the photos
of the rear seat? Someone have a theory I haven't heard about concerning
the nature of the blood stains proving which shot hit which man? Whatcha
got?