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Sandy McCroskey

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Jul 7, 2012, 1:32:02 PM7/7/12
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This is from Greg Mitchell, at thenation.com.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/168769/when-jfk-backed-nixon-against-progressive-woman

I'm not sure what the news hook is (Greg's plugging his book again), but I
thought of you guys.




bigdog

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Jul 7, 2012, 6:01:15 PM7/7/12
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On Jul 7, 1:32 pm, Sandy McCroskey <gwmccros...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> This is from Greg Mitchell, at thenation.com.
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> http://www.thenation.com/blog/168769/when-jfk-backed-nixon-against-pr...
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> I'm not sure what the news hook is (Greg's plugging his book again), but I
> thought of you guys.

Liberals usually don't like to be reminded that their hero began his
political career as staunch anti-communist conservative. In the early
1950s, JFK and RMN had far more in common politically than their
differences. Someday I'd like to see somebody make a movie or miniseries
about their early years in Washington.

John McAdams

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Jul 8, 2012, 10:03:15 PM7/8/12
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Readers of my website have long known this:

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/progjfk1.htm

But of course, it's worth repeating. :-)

.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Anthony Marsh

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Jul 8, 2012, 10:29:59 PM7/8/12
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For propaganda value. But as always it is just one more example that
Liberals are not always satisfied with the positions taken by their
Liberal heroes.

> .John
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> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
>



Bill Clarke

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Jul 8, 2012, 11:44:00 PM7/8/12
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In article <0848f8b8-5116-413c...@l32g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
bigdog says...
It is my understanding that JFK, LBJ and Nixon were all friendly in the
beginning.

To be soft on communism at that time was the death roll for a politician
and none of these politicians were ready to die.

I could relay what Dr. Moise said about Kennedy taking us to war in
Vietnam in a small but significant way. But that upsets Marsh and I
wouldn't want to do that.

Bill Clarke

John McAdams

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Jul 9, 2012, 9:40:16 PM7/9/12
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On 8 Jul 2012 22:29:59 -0400, Anthony Marsh
Then maybe liberals ought to be more selective about whom they make
heros.

.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Bill Clarke

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Jul 9, 2012, 11:25:45 PM7/9/12
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In article <tu1nv7dvmajlhf2lh...@4ax.com>, John McAdams says...
John Kerry jumps to mind here. Good god! If you have to make that two
bit phony a hero you are in bad shape.

Two bits is a quarter to us old dudes that still speak the language. I
was working down in the oil patch with a fine young man and I said
something about two bits. He didn't know what I was talking about.

Bill Clarke


Anthony Marsh

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Jul 10, 2012, 9:41:26 AM7/10/12
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Heroes are never perfect.

> .John
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> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
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bigdog

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Jul 10, 2012, 9:44:17 AM7/10/12
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On Jul 9, 11:25 pm, Bill Clarke <Bill_mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> In article <tu1nv7dvmajlhf2lhevo2o7i1e4uhos...@4ax.com>, John McAdams says...
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> >On 8 Jul 2012 22:29:59 -0400, Anthony Marsh
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> >>On 7/8/2012 10:03 PM, John McAdams wrote:
Doesn't that expression come from the days when a dollar coin would be
cut into eighths called bits and two bits made a quarter?

Bill Clarke

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Jul 10, 2012, 11:51:48 PM7/10/12
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In article <c738f79e-9b18-4ec6...@t8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
bigdog says...
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>On Jul 9, 11:25=A0pm, Bill Clarke <Bill_mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>> In article <tu1nv7dvmajlhf2lhevo2o7i1e4uhos...@4ax.com>, John McAdams say=
>s...
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>> >On 8 Jul 2012 22:29:59 -0400, Anthony Marsh
>> ><anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
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>> >>On 7/8/2012 10:03 PM, John McAdams wrote:
>> >>> On 7 Jul 2012 18:01:15 -0400, bigdog <jecorbett1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> >>>> On Jul 7, 1:32 pm, Sandy McCroskey <gwmccros...@earthlink.net> wrote=
>:
>> >>>>> This is from Greg Mitchell, at thenation.com.
>>
>> >>>>>http://www.thenation.com/blog/168769/when-jfk-backed-nixon-against-p=
>r...
>>
>> >>>>> I'm not sure what the news hook is (Greg's plugging his book again)=
>, but I
>> >>>>> thought of you guys.
>>
>> >>>> Liberals usually don't like to be reminded that their hero began his
>> >>>> political career as staunch anti-communist conservative. In the earl=
>y
>> >>>> 1950s, JFK and RMN had far more in common politically than their
>> >>>> differences. Someday I'd like to see somebody make a movie or minise=
>ries
>> >>>> about their early years in Washington.
>>
>> >>> Readers of my website have long known this:
>>
>> >>>http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/progjfk1.htm
>>
>> >>> But of course, it's worth repeating. :-)
>>
>> >>For propaganda value. But as always it is just one more example that
>> >>Liberals are not always satisfied with the positions taken by their
>> >>Liberal heroes.
>>
>> >Then maybe liberals ought to be more selective about whom they make
>> >heros.
>>
>> >.John
>> >--------------
>> >http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
>>
>> John Kerry jumps to mind here. =A0Good god! =A0If you have to make that t=
>wo
>> bit phony a hero you are in bad shape.
>>
>> Two bits is a quarter to us old dudes that still speak the language. =A0I
>> was working down in the oil patch with a fine young man and I said
>> something about two bits. =A0He didn't know what I was talking about.
>>
>> Bill Clarke
>
>Doesn't that expression come from the days when a dollar coin would be
>cut into eighths called bits and two bits made a quarter?
>

I believe so. What made me feel so old was this kid had never heard of
it.

And then one day the loading dock at the feed store was crowed so I parked
out front and went in to BS with the crowd. Finally the kid comes up and
tells me they can load me now. I tell him just to move my truck for me.
He comes back, head hung down, and tells me he can't drive a stick shift.
Lord, I didn't have the option of transmission when I learned to drive.
Made me feel old again.

Bill Clarke


markusp

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Jul 11, 2012, 5:57:25 PM7/11/12
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On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:44:17 AM UTC-5, bigdog wrote:

> Doesn't that expression come from the days when a dollar coin would be
> cut into eighths called bits and two bits made a quarter?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_(money)

A "bit" of wisdom for all of us!!!
~Mark

Ramon F. Herrera

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Jul 11, 2012, 5:57:56 PM7/11/12
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On Jul 7, 5:01 pm, bigdog <jecorbett1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 7, 1:32 pm, Sandy McCroskey <gwmccros...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > This is from Greg Mitchell, at thenation.com.
>
> >http://www.thenation.com/blog/168769/when-jfk-backed-nixon-against-pr...
>
> > I'm not sure what the news hook is (Greg's plugging his book again), but I
> > thought of you guys.
>

> Liberals usually don't like to be reminded that their hero began
> his political career as staunch anti-communist conservative.

Sure, and Lincoln was Republican at some point.

And there were Democrats members of the KKK.

-Ramon

"Isn't it fascinating that every time Conservatives are accused of being
racists, their instinctive reaction is to refer to history books (the
older, the better)?" -Moi

Anthony Marsh

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Jul 12, 2012, 3:02:52 PM7/12/12
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In music, the call "Shave and a Haircut" and the associated response "two
bits" is a simple, 7-note musical couplet or riff popularly used at the
end of a musical performance, usually for comic effect. It is used
melodically and rhythmically, for example as a door knock.



Bill Clarke

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Jul 12, 2012, 6:44:22 PM7/12/12
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In article <4ffe...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>, Anthony Marsh says...
Wow! That was great Marsh. If only you could reconcile figure 26 with
your bullet rises crap as well as you have two bits it would be a wonder.
But that won't happen will it.

Bill Clarke


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