Page 43
Date 2/16/64
Detective BOB PARSONS, Arlington, Texas,
Police Department, telephonically advised SA
JOSEPH M. MYERS that he is employed part time
at Sears & Roebuck as a detective in Arlington.
He stated that he has recently obtained a check
from the local District Attorney's office in
Arlington which was written at Sears & Roebuck
on November 9, 1963, for a rifle by a THOMAS R.PEASNER.
PARSONS stated that this check was in the amount of
$75.99 and the record at Sears & Roebuck, made on
November 9, 1963, reflected that PEASNER was a pianist
for JACK RUBY, and that on the date he bought this
rifle he had just left the employment of RUBY's
Carousel Club in Dallas.
The check, according to PARSONS, was a personal
check drawn on the Republic National Bank, Dallas,
Texas, and was returned for insufficient funds.
The record at Sears, according to PARSONS, showed
PEASNER's address as 501 North Ewing, Apartment E,
Dallas; however, several letters have been written to
this address by the local D.A. in Arlington, and PEASNER
has moved from this address. The rifle is described by
PARSONS as being a .22-caliber automatic Browning, SN R706898.
PARSONS stated PEASNER is described as white males 6 feet,
1 inch; 140 pounds; born October 19, 1929; brown hair,
blue eyes, has Texas Operator's License 0155824.
PARSONS stated that he has already advised CHARLES
KUNKEL of the U. S. Secret Service, Arlington, relative
to this man, and that be, PARSONSt is seeking a warrant
for his arrest on the check charge. PARSONS stated he is
passing this information on to the FBI in view of the fact
that PEASNER purchased this automatic rifle prior to the
President's assassination and has since disappeared.
on 2/11/64 at Arlington, Texas File# DL 44-1639
by Special Agent JOSEPH M. MYERS-- LAC Date dictated 2/11/64
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?absPageId=353807
After the Korean War, Peasner was investigated by the FBI
because it was alleged that as a POW he had collaborated
with his captors. An 1954 report mentions that as
as musician he had worked at the Band Box. Later
documents show that Joe Slatin ran the Band Box.
Slatin was a partner in Ruby's Sovereign Club,
which later became the Carousel Club.
NO TITLE, SUBJECTS: THOMAS R. PEASNER; THOMAS RODMAN PEASNER, JR
RIF#: 124-90029-10019 (08/10/54) FBI#: 100-405298-5
From page 4
"He is a musician, and his last employment was at the Band Box,
a night club on South Akard Street in Dallas, Texas, where he
played for only one night. Former employment as a musician was
shown with the Mark Evans Trio, which is no longer in existence,
and the subject had secured former employment through the Russ
Gary Office, Galveston, Texas, which is evidently a musicians'
booking agency."
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=76401
Document with summary of allegations
against Peasner:
NO TITLE, SUBJECTS: THOMAS R. PEASNER
RIF#: 124-90029-10017 (03/03/54) FBI#: 100-405298-3
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=76403&relPageId=1
FBI 44-24016 Ruby HQ File, Section 27 pg 58
Joe Slatin, mgr of "Band Box"
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?absPageId=676088
FBI 44-24016 Ruby HQ File, Section 12
Dun & Bradstreet on Ruby, Slatin, Sovereign Club (pg 147)
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=56997&relPageId=143
The Band Box was a "queer joint", according to Slatin.
<quote on>
He advised he never saw Ruby out with a woman and considered
this just a little peculiar. He has heard rumors that Ruby was a
homosexual but he personally never saw anything which would indicate
to him the Ruby was a homosexual. SLATIN explained that when he
operated the BAND BOX during the mid 1950's, it was a "queer joint" so
that consequently he became familiar with that type of person. It got
to the point that he felt he could "spot a queer" by seeing that man
around a little bit. In his contacts and associations with RUBY, he
never did form the opinion that RUBY was a queer.
<quote off>
FBI interview of SLATIN on Dec 11, 1963
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh23/html/WH_Vol23_0046a.htm
>
>
>NO TITLE, SUBJECTS: THOMAS R. PEASNER; THOMAS RODMAN PEASNER, JR
>RIF#: 124-90029-10019 (08/10/54) FBI#: 100-405298-5
>
>From page 4
>
>"He is a musician, and his last employment was at the Band Box,
>a night club on South Akard Street in Dallas, Texas, where he
>played for only one night. Former employment as a musician was
>shown with the Mark Evans Trio, which is no longer in existence,
>and the subject had secured former employment through the Russ
>Gary Office, Galveston, Texas, which is evidently a musicians'
>booking agency."
>
>http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=76401
>
>
>Document with summary of allegations
>against Peasner:
>
>NO TITLE, SUBJECTS: THOMAS R. PEASNER
>RIF#: 124-90029-10017 (03/03/54) FBI#: 100-405298-3
>
>http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=76403&relPageId=1
>
>
>FBI 44-24016 Ruby HQ File, Section 27 pg 58
>
>Joe Slatin, mgr of "Band Box"
>
>
>http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?absPageId=676088
Ruby gave Slatin $5,000 to help form the Sovereign Club after Slatin
approached Ruby. The Sovereign Club later became the Carousel Club.
>
>
>
>FBI 44-24016 Ruby HQ File, Section 12
>
>Dun & Bradstreet on Ruby, Slatin, Sovereign Club (pg 147)
>
>http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=56997&relPageId=143
Peter Fokes,
Toronto
>
>
Did he ever turn up again?
Maybe Armstrong sold him a wig! lol
After Ruby was arrested for shooting Oswald, Armstrong, a Carousel
Club employee, found new employment selling wigs.
Peter Fokes,
Toronto
> The record at Sears, according to PARSONS, showed
> PEASNER's address as 501 North Ewing, Apartment E,
> Dallas; however, several letters have been written to
> this address by the local D.A. in Arlington, and PEASNER
> has moved from this address. The rifle is described by
> PARSONS as being a .22-caliber automatic Browning, SN R706898.
> PARSONS stated PEASNER is described as white males 6 feet,
> 1 inch; 140 pounds; born October 19, 1929; brown hair,
> blue eyes, has Texas Operator's License 0155824.
Thomas R. Peasner, Jr. died in Dallas on 1 October 1970. His death
notice appeared in the Dallas Morning News on October 3 and 4, 1970.
He was buried at Ft. Sam Houston National Cemetery.
I haven't come across any follow-up to Parsons'
report. The HSCA did apparently request information
from the FBI about Peasner, I haven't seen
any indication that they did anything either.
> >http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?absPageId...
>
> > After the Korean War, Peasner was investigated by the FBI
> >because it was alleged that as a POW he had collaborated
> >with his captors. An 1954 report mentions that as
> >as musician he had worked at the Band Box. Later
> >documents show that Joe Slatin ran the Band Box.
> >Slatin was a partner in Ruby's Sovereign Club,
> >which later became the Carousel Club.
>
> >NO TITLE, SUBJECTS: THOMAS R. PEASNER; THOMAS RODMAN PEASNER, JR
> >RIF#: 124-90029-10019 (08/10/54) FBI#: 100-405298-5
>
> >From page 4
>
> >"He is a musician, and his last employment was at the Band Box,
> >a night club on South Akard Street in Dallas, Texas, where he
> >played for only one night. Former employment as a musician was
> >shown with the Mark Evans Trio, which is no longer in existence,
> >and the subject had secured former employment through the Russ
> >Gary Office, Galveston, Texas, which is evidently a musicians'
> >booking agency."
>
> >http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=76401
>
> >Document with summary of allegations
> >against Peasner:
>
> >NO TITLE, SUBJECTS: THOMAS R. PEASNER
> >RIF#: 124-90029-10017 (03/03/54) FBI#: 100-405298-3
>
> >http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=764...
>
> >FBI 44-24016 Ruby HQ File, Section 27 pg 58
>
> >Joe Slatin, mgr of "Band Box"
>
> >http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?absPageId...
>
> >FBI 44-24016 Ruby HQ File, Section 12
>
> >Dun & Bradstreet on Ruby, Slatin, Sovereign Club (pg 147)
>
> >http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=569...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
To David Ferrie?
jko
<jpsh...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:f06738b8-01f6-4a02...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
>Thanks for the info....
>
>jko
Does anyone know what this reference in the Truby papers concerns:
"Emergency Powers: The Executive Order Tom Peasner"
Is this the same Peasner?
See here:
http://www.lib.iup.edu/depts/speccol/ead/mg27.html#series31
<quote on>
J. David Truby, former professor of journalism at Indiana University
of Pennsylvania, has lived many fascinating experiences. After
graduating from the Pennsylvania State University, Truby served as a
combat intelligence noncommissioned officer in the U. S. Army. While
working as an intelligence officer in the early 1960s, he became
involved with the operation eventually known as the Bay of Pigs
invasion of Cuba. Truby next ventured into the arena of news
reporting. After jobs in radio, television, and magazine journalism,
he worked as a field reporter for the National News Service. Truby
specialized in several areas, including political, military, and Latin
American affairs. Truby made many contacts and conducted research
pertaining to the assassination of John F. Kennedy. He gained a great
deal of expertise in the study of assassinations, and served as an
investigator for the U. S. House Committee on Assassinations in the
early 1970s. Also, in that decade Truby taught English, journalism,
and criminology at the collegiate level. A prolific writer, Truby has
written 25 books and co-authored five others. In his writing,
teaching, and reporting, Truby draws from his rich real world
experiences to educate his audience.
<quote off>
PF
If true, then this Korean War Ex-POW page is incorrect. It appears to
indicate Thomas R Peasner died in 1964:
http://www.koreanwarexpow.org/info/deceased_p.html
Peter Fokes,
Toronto
Strange.
Here's a Korean War vet who remembers Peasner. Both men were
imprisoned in Camp 1.
<quote on>
The death rate had lessened when we got up there. Less guys died in
Camp 1. I remember when James O'Boyles died. It was the strangest
death of anybody. James looked like he was healthy as a bull and the
next day he died. Nobody knows why or what caused his death. He was
running around one day and the next day somebody said that James
O'Boyles died. I said, "Wow! I just saw him yesterday. What did he
die from?" Nobody knew. He just died. Maybe even if he had been in
the United States he might have died. Maybe he had heart problems or
something that nobody knew about--an enlarged heart or something. He
just keeled over and died, I guess of natural causes. I don't know of
others who died in Camp 1. There were an awful lot of guys up in the
hospital, like Tom Peasner. He had a disease. The Army doctors had a
word for it. It was lack of something in his system that made his feet
hot. His feet ached and hurt and he’d be out there rubbing them. He
used to put his bare feet in the snow bank. I said, "Tom, what the
heck are you doing?" He said, "Ooh, that cold feels so good on them."
But the snow also froze them so he ended up in the hospital and they
had to cut his toes off because they all turned black. He’s dead now.
He was from St. Petersburg.Donald Elliott lost some toes too. I think
one of them was called "Twinkle Toes." But there were an awful lot of
guys up there in the hospital that were laying there without any toes.
The hospital looked like a place where someone would go to die. At
least, it looked it to me. I think that some of the guys that did go
up there, didn't come back. Offhand, I didn’t know anybody personally
that went up there and died. But I do know that Peasner lost his feet
and Elliott went up there and lost a couple of toes. They came back.
Some of the guys that I know worked in the hospital. I understand
there were 2,000 guys that died at Camp 1. They didn’t die the year I
was there, but they died before I got there. A lot of the first guys
who were up there died. That was before there was a Camp 1. When we
went up there we established Camp 1. Our group became Camp 1. The guys
that were already up there—the British and the guys at the other end
of town, were in what was known as Camp 3.
<quote off>
http://www.koreanwar-educator.org/memoirs/mossman_dallas/index.htm
Same Peasner?
No feet?
Peter Fokes,
Toronto
Only lost left foot. Not both but lost some toes on both feet.
According to documents at Mary Ferrell's site.
PF
It's a book published in 1975.
http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&q=%22tom%20peasner%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wp
Emergency Powers: The Executive Order
by Tom Peasner - Executive orders - 1975
No preview available - About this book - Add to my library - More
editions
School of Music Program Book
by North Texas State University School of Music, North Texas State
University, School of Music - 1955
[ Sorry, this page's content is restricted ]
Snippet view - About this book - Add to my library
http://books.google.com/books?id=__rmHAAACAAJ&dq=%22tom+peasner%22
Emergency Powers: The Executive Order
By Tom Peasner
Published by Delamer Duverus, 1975
42 pages
Well, mabey the feet but just no toes. He says both.
You confused the hell out of me now Peter, if he lost the left foot does
it matter if the toes were still attached?
>On Aug 16, 3:56 pm, Peter Fokes<jp...@toronto.hm> wrote:
>> On 15 Aug 2008 22:11:30 -0400, "James K. Olmstead"
>>
>> <jolmst...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>> >Thanks for the info....
>>
>> >jko
>>
>> Does anyone know what this reference in the Truby papers concerns:
>>
>> "Emergency Powers: The Executive Order Tom Peasner"
>
> It's a book published in 1975.
>
>http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&q=%22tom%20peasner%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wp
>
>Emergency Powers: The Executive Order
>by Tom Peasner - Executive orders - 1975
Republished in 1988?
Emergency Powers: The Executive Order
By Tom Peasner
Published by Duverus Publishing Corporation, 1988
ISBN 0918700078, 9780918700070
Still unanswered ... same Peasner? Perhaps book written earlier but
unpublished for a number of years.
Apparently (according to documents) Peasner placed his feet in the
snow because he suffered from a disease that made them feel very hot.
Gangrene set in. I would assume the toes were amputated first in an
attempt to save the foot, but eventually the entire foot was
amputated. I neglected to post the url to the relevant document. If I
get a chance later today, I'll add it to this thread.
PF
As I remember it David Truby was a self proclaimed weapons specialist who
hung around with paramilitary types from Soldier of Fortune magazine. I
believe he contributed to a couple of JFK assassination hoaxes.
I've read your post a couple of times, JP, but I'm still unsure what your
point is. Are you suggesting that this Peasner was part of the JFK
assassination plot? If so, I think he would want something a little more
powerful than a .22. Also I don't believe any evidence of a .22 slug was
found in or around the presidential limo. Could you clarify.
JGL
> http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?absPageId...
>
> � After the Korean War, Peasner was investigated by the FBI
> because it was alleged that as a POW he had collaborated
> with his captors. An 1954 report mentions that as
> as musician �he had worked at the Band Box. �Later
> documents show that Joe Slatin ran the Band Box.
> Slatin was a partner in Ruby's Sovereign Club,
> which later became the Carousel Club.
>
> NO TITLE, SUBJECTS: THOMAS R. PEASNER; THOMAS RODMAN PEASNER, JR
> RIF#: 124-90029-10019 � (08/10/54) � FBI#: 100-405298-5
>
> From page 4
>
> "He is a musician, and his �last employment was at the Band Box,
> a night club on South Akard Street in Dallas, Texas, where he
> played for only one night. Former employment as a musician was
> shown with the Mark Evans Trio, which is no longer in existence,
> and the subject had secured former employment through the Russ
> Gary Office, Galveston, Texas, which is evidently a musicians'
> booking agency."
>
> http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=76401
>
> Document with summary of allegations
> against Peasner:
>
> NO TITLE, SUBJECTS: THOMAS R. PEASNER
> RIF#: 124-90029-10017 � (03/03/54) � FBI#: 100-405298-3
>
> http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=764...
>
> FBI 44-24016 Ruby HQ File, Section 27 pg 58
>
> Joe Slatin, mgr of "Band Box"
>
> http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?absPageId...
>
> FBI 44-24016 Ruby HQ File, Section 12
>
> Dun & Bradstreet on Ruby, Slatin, Sovereign Club (pg 147)
>
> http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=569...
Detective Parsons reported to the FBI that a person
who claimed to have worked at the Carousel Club
for Jack Ruby had disappeared after buying
a rifle from Sears with a bad check on 11/9/63.
> Are you suggesting that this Peasner was part of the JFK
> assassination plot?
A police detective thought it was worth reporting to the
FBI and the Secret Service.
> If so, I think he would want something a little more
> powerful than a .22. Also I don't believe any evidence of a .22 slug was
> found in or around the presidential limo. Could you clarify.
Sure. Detective Parsons reported to the FBI that a person
who claimed to have worked at the Carousel Club
for Jack Ruby had disappeared after buying
a rifle from Sears with a bad check on 11/9/63.
It looks like the apartments at 501 N. Ewing (Twin Oaks) belonged
to Bertha Check, who was the sister of Earlene Roberts and
had met with Jack Ruby about investing in a new club.
Burt Griffin of the WC had the FBI photograph the records
of Bertha Cheek's rental properties (8 rolls with 1600 exposures),
but then wasn't quick to examine them.
INVESTIGATION RELATING TO MRS. B. CHEEK, A SISTER OF MRS. E. ROBERTS
pg 9
Found in: Oswald 201 File, Vol 42
RIF#: 1993.06.10.17:30:11:120000 (5/28/1964) CIA#: 201-289248
Page 10
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=96314&relPageId=10
FBI 105-82555 Oswald HQ File, Section 171
Page 194
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=59599&relPageId=194
FBI 105-82555 Oswald HQ File, Section 150
Page 130
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=58981&relPageId=130
Don't mean to sound contentious, JP; you generally post good stuff.
But this sound like a shot in the dark... no pun intended.
JGL
> > >http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=569...Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
There's more than enough in Parsons' story to warrant an
FBI follow up. They talked to people who just worked at
the Carousel Club. Also, the Dallas office had a prior
file on Peasner. Did Myers just not check, or did he
not include it in his report for some reason?
It's hard to be certain that there's not a follow up
report somewhere, since the search function at the
Ferrell site depends on the accuracy of the OCR software.
Some pages produce only garbage when scanned.
The FBI would underline names in reports with
pencil, possibly when manually indexing their
reports, and this sometimes frustrates the OCR.
It's possible that Peasner wasn't even in Texas
on 11/22. It's possible he didn't keep the rifle.
I suppose there's even a possibility that someone
else bought the rifle using Peasner's name and
checkbook.
>On Aug 18, 11:19 pm, JLeyden...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Aug 18, 11:13 am, jpshin...@my-deja.com wr
>>
>> Don't mean to sound contentious, JP; you generally post good stuff.
>> But this sound like a shot in the dark... no pun intended.
>
>
> There's more than enough in Parsons' story to warrant an
>FBI follow up. They talked to people who just worked at
>the Carousel Club. Also, the Dallas office had a prior
>file on Peasner. Did Myers just not check, or did he
>not include it in his report for some reason?
>
> It's hard to be certain that there's not a follow up
>report somewhere, since the search function at the
>Ferrell site depends on the accuracy of the OCR software.
>Some pages produce only garbage when scanned.
>The FBI would underline names in reports with
>pencil, possibly when manually indexing their
>reports, and this sometimes frustrates the OCR.
>
> It's possible that Peasner wasn't even in Texas
>on 11/22. It's possible he didn't keep the rifle.
>I suppose there's even a possibility that someone
>else bought the rifle using Peasner's name and
>checkbook.
Excellent points.
Where is the interview of Peasner by the FBI following the
assassination?
Did they interview him?
Peter Fokes,
Toronto
I haven't found one. If they did interview him, they should have placed
a copy in Peasner's file as well.
>
> Did they interview him?
I can't say for sure.
>
> Peter Fokes,
> Toronto
>
>
>
>
>
> >> JGL
>
> >> > On Aug 18, 1:09 am, JLeyden...@aol.com wrote:
>
> >> > > On Aug 15, 11:31 am, jpshin...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> >> > > I've read your post a couple of times, JP, but I'm still unsure what your
> >> > > point is.
>
> >> > Detective Parsons reported to the FBI that a person
> >> > who claimed to have worked at the Carousel Club
> >> > for Jack Ruby had disappeared after buying
> >> > a rifle from Sears with a bad check on 11/9/63.
>
> >> > > Are you suggesting that this Peasner was part of the JFK
> >> > > assassination plot?
>
> >> > A police detective thought it was worth reporting to the
> >> > FBI and the Secret Service.
>
> >> > > If so, I think he would want something a little more
> >> > > powerful than a .22. Also I don't believe any evidence of a .22 slug was
> >> > > found in or around the presidential limo. Could you clarify.
>
> >> > Sure. Detective Parsons reported to the FBI that a person
> >> > who claimed to have worked at the Carousel Club
> >> > for Jack Ruby had disappeared after buying
> >> > a rifle from Sears with a bad check on 11/9/63.
>
> >> > > JGL- Hide quoted text -
Well then, it would appear .... after all these years ... and
thousands of prying eyes looking into this case ... that the Peasner
matter is unresolved.
Lets hope they DID interview him and lets hope the file still exists
.... somewhere ..... and that such file did not fall victim to Ms.
Gandy's cleansing efforts when her boss stair stepped his way to the
netherworld.