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John Reagor King  
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 More options Oct 1 2012, 7:42 pm
Newsgroups: alt.assassination.jfk
From: John Reagor King <caeru...@yahoo.com>
Date: 1 Oct 2012 19:42:28 -0400
Local: Mon, Oct 1 2012 7:42 pm
Subject: Mr. Fiorentino dodges me again
On this past September 14, Mr. Fiorentino posted this in response to Mr.
Canal:

**********

From: "John Fiorentino" <jefiorent...@optimum.net>
Newsgroups: alt.assassination.jfk
Subject: Re: 2nd try, edited, Re: No more 2 cents? Re: The final
photographs of John Fitzgerald Kennedy (1)
Date: 14 Sep 2012 23:14:43 -0400

Re: "stretching the skull"

I simply don't agree, I tried an experiment after Larry's book came out
and I found the scalp would tear before being "stretched" LESS than 1/2
in.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/c778d42c1ab7...
?dmode=source

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The following day I saw this and replied that I was not at all convinced
by this, as far too little detail was given, and asked specifically what
material Mr. Fiorentino had used in his stretching experiment to prove
this, which I thought was a perfectly reasonable question:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/2a60dc3ad9d5...
?dmode=source

The next day Mr. Fiorentino responded only with this, which did not
answer what material he was using, even though I cannot imagine the name
of that material would be more than one, two, or three words at the
most, and thus would have almost certain taken less than ten seconds to
type:

**********

From: "John Fiorentino" <jefiorent...@optimum.net>
Newsgroups: alt.assassination.jfk
Subject: Re: 2nd try, edited, Re: No more 2 cents? Re: The final
photographs of John Fitzgerald Kennedy (1)
Date: 16 Sep 2012 17:38:58 -0400

I did my experiments years ago, after the release of Sturdivan's book. I
spoke with several morticians and frankly was generally laughed at, so you
will excuse me if I don't go through the entire useless exercise again.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/a53a5065a38b...
?dmode=source

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The next day I asked Mr. Fiorentino again what material he had used in
his stretching experiment:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/387c01902871...
?dmode=source

On the same day he replied, still not naming the material, even though
he could have typed it in less than ten seconds:

**********

From: "John Fiorentino" <jefiorent...@optimum.net>
Newsgroups: alt.assassination.jfk
Subject: Re: 2nd try, edited, Re: No more 2 cents? Re: The final
photographs of John Fitzgerald Kennedy (1)
Date: 17 Sep 2012 22:35:17 -0400

Because mainly as I stated before King, this has ALL been done years ago.

I did it when Sturdivan's book came out, etc. etc.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/f8505d6c69a0...
?dmode=source

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Then the following day he said this to me:

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From: "John Fiorentino" <jefiorent...@optimum.net>
Newsgroups: alt.assassination.jfk
Subject: Re: 2nd try, edited, Re: No more 2 cents? Re: The final
photographs of John Fitzgerald Kennedy (1)
Date: 18 Sep 2012 14:51:15 -0400

Mr. King

Why don't you do some real research and go thru the archives of this
newsgroup and you will see just how many times ALL of your questions and
concerns have been answered by myself and others instead of repeatedly
asking me to restate my positions ad infinitum?

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/15614f366bc3...
?dmode=source

**********

So I did exactly what he said, and only found two articles that he had
ever posted prior to 9-14-12 in which he had ever before mentioned this
experiment specifically, but did not mention what material he was
stretching:

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From: "John Fiorentino" <johnfiorent...@optonline.net>
Newsgroups: alt.assassination.jfk
Subject: Re: Mitch Todd, and/or Dr. McAdams, question for you.
Date: 22 Feb 2010 08:48:15 -0500

1. I also tried my own rather amateurish experiments such as you did. My
conclusion from those, is that scalp skin can be "stretched" approx. 1/2
in.

2. I consulted 2 morticians and presented the notion that scalp could be
stretched 2-3 inches. Essentially they were very amused and stated it
can't be done. They also questioned the necessity of taking ANY photos
POST "reconstruction."

3. I consulted 2 forensic pathologists and presented the same idea. They
were not only amused, but 1 actually laughed in my face.

All four of these professionals indicated that MY guesstimate of approx.
1/2 in. was (pardon the pun) stretching it a bit.

ALL indicated the scalp would "tear" and NOT stretch, LONG before you ever
get to 2-3 inches.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/a84fcea72e69...
?dmode=source

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The second article was from the day after, 2-23-10, and simply repeated
the same text again:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/0f35814de49d...
?dmode=source

On the same day he said that I would find the answers to all my questions
in the archives, and I looked and didn't find them, I posted several more
articles asking him again what material he was stretching in his
experiment, cited the two articles from February, 2010 in which he did not
name that material, and replied to another poster who expressed the
opinion that Mr. Fiorentino was bluffing because he was never answering
this perfectly reasonable question, even though he could type the answer
in less than ten seconds:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/9a50f8e81e7b...
?dmode=source

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/ab66dab01e34...
?dmode=source

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/58ae8c0cc114...
?dmode=source

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/64e03f5d5ca1...
?dmode=source

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/94c3cdc32a0f...
?dmode=source

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/e483969bbf2a...
?dmode=source

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/7facc0b7edc3...
?dmode=source

On September 24 I reminded Mr. Fiorentino again that he had still never
answered me regarding what material he had stretched in his experiment,
and that I still had not found any previous article that he had ever
posted in which he had ever named that material:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/8c4cd4e8394d...
?dmode=source

Then, two days ago, on September 29, I saw that Mr. Fiorentino had said to
me that he searched the archives and found much more than I did, but then
he proceeded to quote from a past article of his that not only did not
name the material he had stretched in his experiment, but made no mention
of the experiment at all, which I duly noted in my reply.  I also said
that still nothing had been produced from the archives, by me or by him,
showing any article he had ever posted in which he had named this
material.  And in a second reply on the same day I asked him to please
produce a Message-ID and/or archive URL for any article he had ever posted
in which he had named this material, so that I could admit my error and
apologize for it:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/e28bf3f24d13...
?dmode=source

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/1bcccbfa9450...
?dmode=source

Then yesterday Mr. Fiorentino said this to me, but still didn't name the
material he had stretched in his experiment, even though he could have
typed the name of it in less than ten seconds:

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From: "John Fiorentino" <jefiorent...@optimum.net>
Newsgroups: alt.assassination.jfk
Subject: Re: Lurkers, wanna make a friendly bet? Re: BINGO. Re: The
final photographs of John Fitzgerald Kennedy (1)
Date: 30 Sep 2012 16:51:06 -0400

One last thing with you. Say, what you want, do what you want, but don't
call me a liar.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/d654139baefe...
?dmode=source

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John Fiorentino  
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 More options Oct 2 2012, 2:59 pm
Newsgroups: alt.assassination.jfk
From: "John Fiorentino" <jefiorent...@optimum.net>
Date: 2 Oct 2012 14:59:29 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 2 2012 2:59 pm
Subject: Re: Mr. Fiorentino dodges me again
Now he starts a NEW thread of silliness. So, I'll re-post:

My "credibility" is just fine King.

BTW< I think there is something available to help you stop repeating
yourself.

John F.

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 More options Oct 3 2012, 11:07 pm
Newsgroups: alt.assassination.jfk
From: John Reagor King <caeru...@yahoo.com>
Date: 3 Oct 2012 23:07:14 -0400
Local: Wed, Oct 3 2012 11:07 pm
Subject: Re: Mr. Fiorentino dodges me again
In article <506b071...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>,
 "John Fiorentino" <jefiorent...@optimum.net> wrote:

> Now he starts a NEW thread of

Again, when you claim to have conducted an experiment which supposedly
proves something about the JFK assassination, but refuse to give
sufficient detail about that experiment to demonstrate that it was even
valid in the first place, others are naturally going to call you on it.  
It would be naive to expect otherwise.

Still won't simply tell us what material you were stretching in your
experiment, eh John?  What are you trying to hide?


 
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 More options Oct 4 2012, 10:36 pm
Newsgroups: alt.assassination.jfk
From: Anthony Marsh <anthony.ma...@comcast.net>
Date: 4 Oct 2012 22:36:03 -0400
Local: Thurs, Oct 4 2012 10:36 pm
Subject: Re: Mr. Fiorentino dodges me again
On 10/3/2012 11:07 PM, John Reagor King wrote:

> In article <506b071...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>,
>   "John Fiorentino" <jefiorent...@optimum.net> wrote:

>> Now he starts a NEW thread of

> Again, when you claim to have conducted an experiment which supposedly
> proves something about the JFK assassination, but refuse to give
> sufficient detail about that experiment to demonstrate that it was even
> valid in the first place, others are naturally going to call you on it.
> It would be naive to expect otherwise.

> Still won't simply tell us what material you were stretching in your
> experiment, eh John?  What are you trying to hide?

The answer to both questions is: the truth.

 
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 More options Oct 9 2012, 9:02 pm
Newsgroups: alt.assassination.jfk
From: John Reagor King <caeru...@yahoo.com>
Date: 9 Oct 2012 21:02:58 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 9 2012 9:02 pm
Subject: Re: Mr. Fiorentino dodges me again
In article <506d0e1...@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>,
 Anthony Marsh <anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:

Could be.  Is it also the truth that you are hiding, Anthony, when still
after seven days you refuse to admit that you were wrong when you falsely
claimed that I had said that JFK already had his hands up by Z225?

 
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