George Bush and JFK?
b garrett meadows
which purports a connection between the first President George Bush and
JFK death. Is this just another case of a manufactured connection that
really isn't a connection?
bigdog
wrote:
GHW Bush has been one of hundreds of names on the CT suspect list for
decades. He was a Texas oilman and former director of the CIA, both
entities that have at one time or another been accused of engineering the
assassination. A case of guilt by association. He also drew suspiscion
because said he didn't remember where he was when he heard JFK had been
shot. Some have gone so far as to claim he was in Dallas directing the
assassination.
cdddraftsman
wrote:
Of course it's connected . Everything is connected . Except CTer's and
a rational theory : Prepare yourself for a 'Hard Nut' to swallow .
Proof :
Hint : If the assassination is trans historical , involves hated
characters that go back to my generation , you've got a perfect candidate
in the perfect package , the hated hick of history LBJ , that killed JFK
because of his much despised Vietnam War * . Where as today to update the
assassination and give it new characters to hate , you've got GHWB
demising Camel-whatever , because of his son's equally unpopular Iraq War
. You think about it after a few moments and you realize that the
assassination like a piece of cheese left out-doors for a couple of weeks
undergoes a metamorphosis .
They're still ironing out a few wrinkles and winkling out a few ironies
after 46 years . Think of this GHWB involvement as a sort of .... Hmmmm ??
.... Oh.... a mentally or morally challenged persons attempt to bridge the
generation gap .
If you hold your breath it'll be the 50th anniversary pretty soon .
end ....
tl
Keynotes :
* The reason is given that JFK was killed by whoever/whatever/however is
an excuse to make it look like LBJ murdered to get us in on a profitable
war ** IN THE BEGINNING (Keywords) This is a smoke screen . First the real
reason is because this is demonstratively false , NV was unranked as a
military power , It's army was in shambles , wore sandals , wore black
pajama's in and out of bed , was held in contempt by our military
(underestimated the enemy like at BoP) Second is because we stalemated ***
with Sir. Charles (VC) , left honorably when it was convenient , won every
battle of importance we fought there , but let an Allie loose the war AT
THE VERY END ! Welcome to the 'Radical Left' who dreams up video's like
this , has a habit of planting little ticking time bombs of political
dissent , whenever they can = The modern day graffiti of disillusionment
signaling despair !
** With the Cold War profits up , the VN Question already getting an
extra-400 million , troops up from 500 under Ike to 16,500 under JFK in
two years , racists segregationists stocked at the lower Federal Bench
level courts , His Wife 'Clueless in Dallas' about JFK's moral aloofness
and coming off a big win in Cuba's temporary glitch about 'who's who in
who's backyard' (The Cuban Missile Crisis) I would of thought everyone
from California to Texas to Washington would of been pleased with fancy
pants JFK ***** ? In retro-spect , with 20/20 hindsight , JFK was doing
everything that most if not the majority of people , fellow politicians
(R)+(D) even his most ardent critic's would of wanted done and was a good
enough bullshitter to get by on the matters that were in doubt and
questionable . CTer's have a tendency to paint the picture grey , doom and
gloom , everywhere you look hidden handed messages of conspiracy , you
just got to know how to find them ? Yaaaa right .
*** Broke faith with not so much the SV people but with a doctrine that no
longer was worth the effort to uphold . The Domino Theory was the doctrine
of containment at it's best , unrealistic in regards to the Civil War that
was about to explode with the US caught in the middle , first fighting as
advisers , then combat troops , then against the VC , NV Regulars , and
ended up eventually fighting everyone including the people's of Cambodian
, Loas , terrain and a people at home who hired the wrong crook , for the
wrong job , at the wrong time . JFK would of been perfect for any years
excluding and up intil 1968 . Nixon was the man that could of and should
of fought that war over yonder .
**** Because we backed the agrarian south against the warrior class of the
north which we had trained to fight against the Japanese during WW2 . An
incredible blunder , going into a war without "knowing the enemy" or it's
"long term strategy" , it's "commitment level" or the "terrain" (3 tiered
canopy forest) which was deleterious (absorbed) to bomb effects we
expected to achieve . We thought we knew at the level of what we had
experienced up til then . This all was about to change when troop levels
went up and we did the fighting , excluding the SV in the process instead
of a partnership in a winnable war and victory . Putting in Westmoreland ,
who turned out to be the worse General since Custer , was a big boo-boo .
***** But all priority's are rescinded when Lee Oswald thinks he's beaten
218 contenders for the duke but meets Instant Karma instead . The
powerless find a way to Hi-Jack History , make Oswald a footnote to that
attempt at a 'Revisionistic History' , and along the way making everyone
you want and love to hate the 'Killer of Kamelwhatever' . IOW's : CTer's
sowing the greatest amount of confusion since they solved their problems
while constructing , the 'tower of babel' .
****** It has changed , morphed , altered it's original form by outside
forces and all around just become a parlor game for JFK Do- Gooders . On
the other hand (right) , In a quest to see History Reclaimed and gaining
momentum a plea to witness those who harbor doubts about the WCR , to quit
'Crying A Rivers Of Tears' ******* over JFK and LHO's demise . Neither
were worth it . Lets shape up THE BIG 50 is coming .
******* These 'CAROT' Heads in general I find everywhere (You-Tube) ,
conspiracy belief for it's useless sake , no articulation of purpose , no
names named , but plenty of fourth rate action in Dealey Plaza . JFK given
the action hero status they think he deserves , while the real JFK remains
hidden , forever paying Mrs. Alicia Purdom (pronounced Par-doom) a price
per second of bliss second to none and $46,398 Dollars Per Man to get back
the BoP Hostages .
******** Do The Math ! : "We've done the calculations a million times ,
what we have in the way of 'Dirt on JFK' and what are the likely reactions
from those in on the conspiracy to this fizzic's calculation *********
done below : Perimeters : In 1951 Kennedy pays Alicia Purdom half a
million dollars after making her pregnant and then reneging on his promise
to marry her , divided by , Angie Dickinson commenting on JFK’s brutal
lovemaking style called it “the best 20 seconds of my life.”
500,000
-------------- = $25,000 Per Second of Bliss .
20 sec.'s
Wow ! No that can't be right ? Jeeze is that right ? Thats more than it
took to launch the 'Apollo into Space' . I knew math would bring me closer
to liking JFK , but golly gee , after only one calculation .. Probably
more $ than than Oswald ever saw in his lifetime and more Bliss too ? I
wonder how Joe Sr. reacted ? Happy , Mad , Indifferent ? Cut the check and
cut the losses? I can see him now looking JFK straight in the eye , smiles
briefly and say's : "There's no stopping you now son , you've got what it
takes to reach high ground before nightfall' ! Slaps him on the back and
all's forgiven .
$52.,000,000
---------------- = $45,694 Per Man .
1138 men
Who turned out to be no better assassin's than they were invaders ,
turning Miami during the 1970's-80's into the 'Cocaine Smuggling Capital
of the US' . This may of been where this inflated rumor of cocaine dealing
by the CIA in LA came from . The Cuban Exiles were known to be a little
hot headed , didn't trust the CIA after they issued them Carcano Rifles ,
talked badly about the CIA in retaliation for and to have a excuse for
their poor performance in the BoP that was questionably avoidable IMO .
(JFK : "victory has a thousand fathers but defeat in an orphan) *********
********* Although Prof. Rahn didn't help me directly with my math , he
sends his best wishes to all here , he's apparently just a busy- body of
help to those with Atmospheric problems that have besieged China . Nows
the time to make it happen in regards to industrial pollution , while
production facility's have slowed . Proud of him , he doesn't sit on his
butt and complain .
********** Where as IMO 'conspiracy' is a defeat looking like an orphan
:-)
cdddraftsman
Move over LBJ , GHWB is passing you as the man everyone will love to hate
for having killed JFK :
US found later was the equipment used to turn yellow cake into Weapons
grade material. Sound like that might be a problem? Guess you only heard
what you want to hear.
tl
Anthony Marsh
> On Nov 17, 8:59 pm, b garrett meadows<bgarrettmead...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> I watched a documentary called JFK II on a website featuring documentaries
>> which purports a connection between the first President George Bush and
>> JFK death. Is this just another case of a manufactured connection that
>> really isn't a connection?
>
> Of course it's connected . Everything is connected . Except CTer's and
> a rational theory : Prepare yourself for a 'Hard Nut' to swallow .
>
> Proof :
>
> Hint : If the assassination is trans historical , involves hated
> characters that go back to my generation , you've got a perfect candidate
> in the perfect package , the hated hick of history LBJ , that killed JFK
> because of his much despised Vietnam War * . Where as today to update the
> assassination and give it new characters to hate , you've got GHWB
> demising Camel-whatever , because of his son's equally unpopular Iraq War
> . You think about it after a few moments and you realize that the
> assassination like a piece of cheese left out-doors for a couple of weeks
> undergoes a metamorphosis .
>
It goes well beyond that. The theory is that there is a pattern of the
rich and corrupt being willing to kill anyone who threatens their status
quo. Hence the assassination of so many who worked for peace.
> They're still ironing out a few wrinkles and winkling out a few ironies
> after 46 years . Think of this GHWB involvement as a sort of .... Hmmmm ??
> .... Oh.... a mentally or morally challenged persons attempt to bridge the
> generation gap .
The idea is that there is an underlying conspiracy of the rich via special
institutions like Skull and Bones which cooperate to maintain control at
any cost.
>
> If you hold your breath it'll be the 50th anniversary pretty soon .
>
> end ....
>
> tl
>
> Keynotes :
>
> * The reason is given that JFK was killed by whoever/whatever/however is
> an excuse to make it look like LBJ murdered to get us in on a profitable
> war ** IN THE BEGINNING (Keywords) This is a smoke screen . First the real
> reason is because this is demonstratively false , NV was unranked as a
> military power , It's army was in shambles , wore sandals , wore black
> pajama's in and out of bed , was held in contempt by our military
And yet the US was not able to win the war. Don't underestimate your enemy.
> (underestimated the enemy like at BoP) Second is because we stalemated ***
> with Sir. Charles (VC) , left honorably when it was convenient , won every
> battle of importance we fought there , but let an Allie loose the war AT
Winning the battle does not guarantee winning the war. Japan won the
battle at Pearl Harbor, but lost the war because they woke the sleeping
giant. And their own military experts warned that this is exactly what
would happen.
> THE VERY END ! Welcome to the 'Radical Left' who dreams up video's like
> this , has a habit of planting little ticking time bombs of political
> dissent , whenever they can = The modern day graffiti of disillusionment
> signaling despair !
>
> ** With the Cold War profits up , the VN Question already getting an
> extra-400 million , troops up from 500 under Ike to 16,500 under JFK in
More revisionism. Ike already had 900 advisors in South Vietnam by the
time JFK took over, in violation of the Geneva Accords.
> two years , racists segregationists stocked at the lower Federal Bench
> level courts , His Wife 'Clueless in Dallas' about JFK's moral aloofness
Jackie clueless? You don't know what the Hell you are talking about. She
knew all about the affairs.
> and coming off a big win in Cuba's temporary glitch about 'who's who in
> who's backyard' (The Cuban Missile Crisis) I would of thought everyone
> from California to Texas to Washington would of been pleased with fancy
> pants JFK ***** ? In retro-spect , with 20/20 hindsight , JFK was doing
JFK barely won in 1960 and the tipping votes were due to massive fraud.
> everything that most if not the majority of people , fellow politicians
> (R)+(D) even his most ardent critic's would of wanted done and was a good
> enough bullshitter to get by on the matters that were in doubt and
> questionable . CTer's have a tendency to paint the picture grey , doom and
> gloom , everywhere you look hidden handed messages of conspiracy , you
> just got to know how to find them ? Yaaaa right .
>
And you love it or leave it right-wingers are happy to see our country
in a depression.
> *** Broke faith with not so much the SV people but with a doctrine that no
> longer was worth the effort to uphold . The Domino Theory was the doctrine
> of containment at it's best , unrealistic in regards to the Civil War that
> was about to explode with the US caught in the middle , first fighting as
> advisers , then combat troops , then against the VC , NV Regulars , and
> ended up eventually fighting everyone including the people's of Cambodian
> , Loas , terrain and a people at home who hired the wrong crook , for the
> wrong job , at the wrong time . JFK would of been perfect for any years
> excluding and up intil 1968 . Nixon was the man that could of and should
> of fought that war over yonder .
>
Yeah, Nixon did such a great job of winning in Vietnam, eh?
> **** Because we backed the agrarian south against the warrior class of the
> north which we had trained to fight against the Japanese during WW2 . An
> incredible blunder , going into a war without "knowing the enemy" or it's
> "long term strategy" , it's "commitment level" or the "terrain" (3 tiered
> canopy forest) which was deleterious (absorbed) to bomb effects we
We did it to ourselves. We double crossed Ho.
> to marry her , divided by , Angie Dickinson commenting on JFK?s brutal
> lovemaking style called it ?the best 20 seconds of my life.?
>
> 500,000
> -------------- = $25,000 Per Second of Bliss .
> 20 sec.'s
>
> Wow ! No that can't be right ? Jeeze is that right ? Thats more than it
> took to launch the 'Apollo into Space' . I knew math would bring me closer
> to liking JFK , but golly gee , after only one calculation .. Probably
> more $ than than Oswald ever saw in his lifetime and more Bliss too ? I
> wonder how Joe Sr. reacted ? Happy , Mad , Indifferent ? Cut the check and
> cut the losses? I can see him now looking JFK straight in the eye , smiles
> briefly and say's : "There's no stopping you now son , you've got what it
> takes to reach high ground before nightfall' ! Slaps him on the back and
> all's forgiven .
>
> $52.,000,000
> ---------------- = $45,694 Per Man .
> 1138 men
>
> Who turned out to be no better assassin's than they were invaders ,
> turning Miami during the 1970's-80's into the 'Cocaine Smuggling Capital
> of the US' . This may of been where this inflated rumor of cocaine dealing
> by the CIA in LA came from . The Cuban Exiles were known to be a little
The CIA was not only involved in smuggling Cocaine into Miami. It was much
larger than that and involved other drugs and other countries as well.
> hot headed , didn't trust the CIA after they issued them Carcano Rifles ,
They did not use Mannlicher-Carcanos in the Bay of Pigs invasion.
> talked badly about the CIA in retaliation for and to have a excuse for
> their poor performance in the BoP that was questionably avoidable IMO .
> (JFK : "victory has a thousand fathers but defeat in an orphan) *********
>
> ********* Although Prof. Rahn didn't help me directly with my math , he
> sends his best wishes to all here , he's apparently just a busy- body of
Apparently no one helped you with your grammar.
Anthony Marsh
Sure, but the important thing is to link him as part of an ongoing
conspiracy by the rich to always act against the interests of the people.
Anthony Marsh
There is nothing substantive to it. It is like six degrees of separation.
yeuhd
> GHW Bush has been one of hundreds of names on the CT suspect list for
> decades. He was a Texas oilman and former director of the CIA, both
> entities that have at one time or another been accused of engineering the
> assassination. A case of guilt by association. He also drew suspiscion
> because said he didn't remember where he was when he heard JFK had been
> shot. Some have gone so far as to claim he was in Dallas directing the
> assassination.
George H.W. Bush was about to give a speech at a Rotary Club luncheon
in Tyler, Texas, when they heard the news of President Kennedy's
death. The speech was cancelled. Barbara Bush was at a beauty parlor
in Tyler when she got the news.
Thalia
wrote:
There are very real connections between George H.W Bush and the
assassination. What his "role" was is unknown. Bush was in George
DeMohrenschildt's (Oswald's White Russian "friend" in Dallas) address
book, and Bush rang the FBI with information regarding the assassination.
There are also numerous documents linking "George Bush of the CIA" to
anti-Castro Cubans - Bush denies it was him, and he testified before
congress at the time of his apppointment as CIA Director that he had never
worked for the CIA before - and claims the documents are referring to some
other 'George Bush" who at one time worked for the CIA - this George Bush
when interviewed denies the documents are about him as he was not employed
by the agency in clandestine work. Also, Bush claims he does not know
where he was during the assassination - must be one of the few Americans
who can't remember. There is a photograph of man resembling George Bush
standing outside the TSBD straight after the assassination, however it is
too grainy and distant to tell for sure one way or the other. George H.W
Bush is an extremely shady character when you examine his history, and
lies roll off his tongue continuously. You might enjoy this youtube vidoe
(disclaimer, while this does not prove anything about Bush's role in the
assassination, you would have to agree he smiled at the most suspicious
moment!)
Sandy McCroskey
"George Bush" is not an unusual name. "George" is very common (it's
actually my own first name—I'm a "George W.) and forty, fifty years
ago, at least, there was a family of Bushes in my tiny hometown in
West Virginia (it would surprise me very much if there was any close
relation...). It's a pretty big country, y'know, and there must be
people named Bush all over it. CIA agents come from all over the U S
of A, and there are thousands of CIA agents. Anyway, we know where
George H.W. Bush was on the fateful day of November 22 of that year
(see yeudh's post, above). He was a very busy man, it was just one
speaking engagement like another, where he said nothing particularly
memorable, especially not to himself...
/sandy
Coondog
> On 11/18/2009 1:34 PM, cdddraftsman wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 17, 8:59 pm, b garrett meadows<bgarrettmead...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> I watched a documentary called JFK II on a website featuring documentaries
> >> which purports a connection between the first President George Bush and
> >> JFK death. Is this just another case of a manufactured connection that
> >> really isn't a connection?
>
> > Of course it's connected . Everything is connected . Except CTer's and
> > a rational theory : Prepare yourself for a 'Hard Nut' to swallow .
>
> > Proof :
>
> > Hint : If the assassination is trans historical , involves hated
> > characters that go back to my generation , you've got a perfect candidate
> > in the perfect package , the hated hick of history LBJ , that killed JFK
>
> > **** Because we backed the agrarian south against the warrior class of the
> > north which we had trained to fight against the Japanese during WW2 . An
> > incredible blunder , going into a war without "knowing the enemy" or it's
> > "long term strategy" , it's "commitment level" or the "terrain" (3 tiered
> > canopy forest) which was deleterious (absorbed) to bomb effects we
>
> We did it to ourselves. We double crossed Ho.
Sigh. We did much more for Ho than he did for us. We trained his men
and gave him the 5,000 arms he used to consolidate his power in 1945.
Without these arms he would have been a rather impotent revolutionary.
Do you also think we double crossed Joe Stalin?
Why do you always sympathize with the communist?
Bill Clarke
Sandy McCroskey
wrote:
I meant to write, "where he *would have* said nothing particularly
memorable" (as I'm sure G.H.W. Bush would have had a written speech
prepared). /sm
Anthony Marsh
> ago, at least, there was a family of Bushes in my tiny hometown in
> West Virginia (it would surprise me very much if there was any close
> relation...). It's a pretty big country, y'know, and there must be
> people named Bush all over it. CIA agents come from all over the U S
> of A, and there are thousands of CIA agents. Anyway, we know where
> George H.W. Bush was on the fateful day of November 22 of that year
> (see yeudh's post, above). He was a very busy man, it was just one
> speaking engagement like another, where he said nothing particularly
> memorable, especially not to himself...
> /sandy
>
Another CIA apologist chimes in. The circumstances point only and
specifically to the Texan George Bush, not some lowly Washington analyst.
The theories about George Bush being in Dealey Plaza are silly and come
only from the kooks. Others try to tie all the Bushes into all the crimes
of the ruling class.
cdddraftsman
> battle at Pearl Harbor, but lost the war because they woke the sleeping
> giant. And their own military experts warned that this is exactly what
> would happen.
>
>
You mis-read history again and why not , it's typical for you ?
The Japanese supposed victory at Pearl Harbor was in fact a serious
strategic defeat ! :
a) Japanese planes missed their prime targets the aircraft carriers which
weren't present .
b) Japanese planes sank useless obsolete old battleships , all but two
raised and rebuilt into modern shore bombardment platforms and anti-
aircraft fleet support and fought the last battleship to battleship
engagement ever at the 'Battle of Suragio Straights'
c) Japanese planes missed an equal amount of these types of old
battleships which remained undamaged in our Atlantic Fleet on the eastern
seaboard .
d) Japanese planes missed the tanker Neosho berthed in-between battleship
row and the USS California which if hit was a major potential
conflageration point for the entire harbor area .
e) Japanese planes missed the fleet oil storage facility's .
f) Japanese planes missed damaging the fleet repair facility's , drydocks
, and all redundant backup fleet support facility's.
g) Japanese planes didn't miss pissing off the American people , uniting a
divided country into a unified whole determined to 'Remember Pearl Harbor'
.
h) Japanese planes didn't miss by their actions to remind Hitler who his
allie was and he responded by declaring war on the US two weeks later ,
which solved all of FDR's problems because he wasn't going to fight Hitler
but concentrate on the Pacific Campaign only and let the European's fight
their own war .
These are but a few of the major mistakes that made the Japanese regret
attacking Pearl Harbor only once and that was continuously until they
surrendered .
tl
cdddraftsman
Talk about shady characters , what about shady posts ?
My goodness you rattle off silly JFK factoids like there's no
tomorrow ?
What gives ? Americans want to know ?
Are you upset that they just named our newest aircraft carrier USS GHWB
and not the USS Clinton or Kennedy ? Sorry plank walker yer ships
obsolete.
Or are you just jelous that he was a brave and decorated WW2 pilot that
got shot down over the Japanese island of Chi-chi Jima , survived , was
rescued and while coming aboard the submariner they filmed the pick-up and
your hero JFK actions were best forgotten and thank God never filmed ?
Or is it more than likely that you
Still have a crush on JFK ?
Comments from the Concerned
tl
cdddraftsman
Just curious .
tl
Thalia
I wonder if the assassination worried Barbara's "beautiful mind?"
Anthony Marsh
We already HAVE an USS John F. Kennedy.
http://rlv.zcache.com/uss_john_f_kennedy_cv_67_poster-p228232128748943622t5wm_400.jpg
But of course a Kennedy hater like you would not know that.
In fact, I bet you're the guy who made them change the name back from
Cape Kennedy to Cape Canaveral.
> Or are you just jelous that he was a brave and decorated WW2 pilot that
> got shot down over the Japanese island of Chi-chi Jima , survived , was
> rescued and while coming aboard the submariner they filmed the pick-up and
> your hero JFK actions were best forgotten and thank God never filmed ?
>
Bush Senior? I don't object to that, just as you deny that he was a war
criminal who shot to death several Japanese survivors in the water.
Anthony Marsh
> On Nov 18, 7:21 pm, Anthony Marsh<anthony_ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Winning the battle does not guarantee winning the war. Japan won the
>> battle at Pearl Harbor, but lost the war because they woke the sleeping
>> giant. And their own military experts warned that this is exactly what
>> would happen.
>>
>>
>
> You mis-read history again and why not , it's typical for you ?
>
> The Japanese supposed victory at Pearl Harbor was in fact a serious
> strategic defeat ! :
>
> a) Japanese planes missed their prime targets the aircraft carriers which
> weren't present .
>
It achieved its tactical goal. To disable to American fleet and give
them free reign in the Pacific for a limited time.
> b) Japanese planes sank useless obsolete old battleships , all but two
> raised and rebuilt into modern shore bombardment platforms and anti-
> aircraft fleet support and fought the last battleship to battleship
> engagement ever at the 'Battle of Suragio Straights'
>
Arizona.
> c) Japanese planes missed an equal amount of these types of old
> battleships which remained undamaged in our Atlantic Fleet on the eastern
> seaboard .
>
Not able to compete well with the most modern Japanese ships.
> d) Japanese planes missed the tanker Neosho berthed in-between battleship
> row and the USS California which if hit was a major potential
> conflageration point for the entire harbor area .
>
> e) Japanese planes missed the fleet oil storage facility's .
>
> f) Japanese planes missed damaging the fleet repair facility's , drydocks
> , and all redundant backup fleet support facility's.
>
> g) Japanese planes didn't miss pissing off the American people , uniting a
> divided country into a unified whole determined to 'Remember Pearl Harbor'
> .
>
> h) Japanese planes didn't miss by their actions to remind Hitler who his
> allie was and he responded by declaring war on the US two weeks later ,
> which solved all of FDR's problems because he wasn't going to fight Hitler
> but concentrate on the Pacific Campaign only and let the European's fight
> their own war .
>
> These are but a few of the major mistakes that made the Japanese regret
> attacking Pearl Harbor only once and that was continuously until they
> surrendered .
>
All untrue and silly.
> tl
>
Thalia
>
> - Show quoted text -
I am just glad that my posts cause you so much angst! I do admit to
finding JFK a very attractive man, but that really goes without
saying. I'm afraid that George Bush Snr was up to his neck in anti-
Castro operations, and CIA shenanigans way before his commission as
CIA Director. Him denying it is noting unusual, in fact it is standard
CIA operating procedure! It will all come out and be accepted as truth
in the end, it's just the Americans thinks all it's Presidents are
"Golden Boys" sent straight from God, so I understand your dilemna.
Thalia
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
You are demonstrating that you don't know much about the memos in
question. It was George H.W Bush, no question. Link to the memo to
come.
Thalia
>
> - Show quoted text -
You know that George H.W Bush rang the FBI with information regarding
a James Parrot in Houston (a university student) making threats
against JFK's life?
Anthony Marsh
Stalin like Ho was an ally of convenience, to be easily discarded after we
defeated the Germans, Italians, and Japanese. The US also gave Stalin a
LOT of arms and supplies during WWII. Then we made him our official enemy
because we had run out of enemies.
> Why do you always sympathize with the communist?
>
Why do you always support terrorists and war criminals?
> Bill Clarke
>
Sandy McCroskey
But I know that he didn't have anything to do with the assassination.
It's impossible that these memos could be evidence that he was or that
he did.
Sandy
Sandy McCroskey
I think you must mean this:
http://www.tomflocco.com/Docs/Jfk/HooverFbiMemo.htm
It doesn't say "George H.W. Bush," however.
/sandy
Sandy McCroskey
"A university student." Ha. You mean John Parrott, a typical John Bircher
with a screw loose, who seems to have spoken openly about wanting to kill
Kennedy.
Wouldn't you inform the FBI if you knew someone was threatening the
president's life?
How would doing so implicate Bush in the later assassination?
/sandy
Sandy McCroskey
I think you must mean this:
tomnln
"Thalia" <thali...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> actually my own first name?I'm a "George W.) and forty, fifty years
> ago, at least, there was a family of Bushes in my tiny hometown in
> West Virginia (it would surprise me very much if there was any close
> relation...). It's a pretty big country, y'know, and there must be
> people named Bush all over it. CIA agents come from all over the U S
> of A, and there are thousands of CIA agents. Anyway, we know where
> George H.W. Bush was on the fateful day of November 22 of that year
> (see yeudh's post, above). He was a very busy man, it was just one
> speaking engagement like another, where he said nothing particularly
> memorable, especially not to himself...
> /sandy- Hide quoted text -
>
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You know that George H.W Bush rang the FBI with information regarding
a James Parrot in Houston (a university student) making threats
against JFK's life?
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CORRECT Thalia;
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tomnln
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"Thalia" <thali...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Coondog
We engaged in the Cold War because we had run out of enemies! You want to
stop and think how sophomoric that statement is? Name one terrorist and
one war criminal I have defended or supported. One of each Marsh. Come
on.
Bill Clarke
Sandy McCroskey
*I* meant "James"! Must've been thinking "John Birch."
/sm
Thalia
What is the point when JFK was ALREADY dead? Why not give the information
when it could have really been useful? How did Bush Snr know this Parrott?
How do you know he was a "typical John Bircher with a screw loose?" This
memo does not implicate Bush in the assassination but it is indicitative
of how a spy operates: giving useless information to the authorities so it
is on the record that you are in a particular place at a particular time
(though he could have been calling from anywhere)
John McAdams
>On Nov 21, 11:21�am, Sandy McCroskey <gwmccros...@earthlink.net>
>wrote:
>>
>> "A university student." Ha. You mean John Parrott, a typical John Bircher
>> with a screw loose, who seems to have spoken openly about wanting to kill
>> Kennedy.
>>
>> Wouldn't you inform the FBI if you knew someone was threatening the
>> president's life?
>>
>> How would doing so implicate Bush in the later assassination?
>>
>> /sandy
>
>What is the point when JFK was ALREADY dead?
It might help find the killer, or perhaps people who were part of some
plot.
>Why not give the information
>when it could have really been useful?
Perhaps because it was hearsay and he didn't take it too seriously.
>How did Bush Snr know this Parrott?
The memo doesn't say.
>How do you know he was a "typical John Bircher with a screw loose?" This
>memo does not implicate Bush in the assassination but it is indicitative
>of how a spy operates:
Oh my God!
What kind of thought process is that?
It's now a concerned citizen operates: pass along information that
might be helpful to authorities in solving a crime.
>giving useless information to the authorities so it
>is on the record that you are in a particular place at a particular time
>(though he could have been calling from anywhere)
Look . . . you go at this entire case backwards.
You first make a list of people with whom you have a political
disagreement, and then you start trying to inplicate them in the
assassination.
Sandy is likely well to the left of you. He works for THE NATION,
after all.
But he isn't always trying to blame people with whose political views
he differs.
You need to take a lesson from him.
.John
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Anthony Marsh
>>>> ago, at least, there was a family of Bushes in my tiny hometown in
>>>> West Virginia (it would surprise me very much if there was any close
>>>> relation...). It's a pretty big country, y'know, and there must be
>>>> people named Bush all over it. CIA agents come from all over the U S
>>>> of A, and there are thousands of CIA agents. Anyway, we know where
>>>> George H.W. Bush was on the fateful day of November 22 of that year
>>>> (see yeudh's post, above). He was a very busy man, it was just one
>>>> speaking engagement like another, where he said nothing particularly
>>>> memorable, especially not to himself...
>>>> /sandy- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>> You know that George H.W Bush rang the FBI with information regarding
>>> a James Parrot in Houston (a university student) making threats
>>> against JFK's life?
>>
>> "A university student." Ha. You mean John Parrott, a typical John Bircher
>> with a screw loose, who seems to have spoken openly about wanting to kill
>> Kennedy.
>>
>> Wouldn't you inform the FBI if you knew someone was threatening the
>> president's life?
>>
>> How would doing so implicate Bush in the later assassination?
>>
>> /sandy- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> What is the point when JFK was ALREADY dead? Why not give the information
> when it could have really been useful? How did Bush Snr know this Parrott?
I'm not following your logic. Maybe you'd have a point if Bush had
brought it out 40 years later. But this is just after the assassination
and they thought it was a conspiracy, so they might be looking for
conspirators.
> How do you know he was a "typical John Bircher with a screw loose?" This
> memo does not implicate Bush in the assassination but it is indicitative
> of how a spy operates: giving useless information to the authorities so it
> is on the record that you are in a particular place at a particular time
> (though he could have been calling from anywhere)
>
I don't know how things work in Oz, but everywhere else someone can be
an informant or a source without being a spy. Bush was not a CIA officer
then. He was a CIA contact, a source. Like Clay Shaw.
Thalia
>
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He may not have been an "officer" but he was still trained in, or was
knowledgeable in, intelligence operations.
Thalia
ESCUSE ME, but I think I will pass on that lesson. Why don't you ask
Sandy why Mr Bush felt it was important to pass this information on to
the FBI AFTER the President was dead?? Might have helped if this
information was known while the President was still alive!!! But that
seems lost on you lot. I blame the CIA for the assassination (maybe
thats why I dislike them so much????) That was my suspicion to begin
with, and it just gets stronger very year. I find it implausible that
George Bush became the Director of the CIA out of nowhere, at that
particular time, when it was facing a lot of negative publicity, and
that the memos mentioning him (yes him, not the other random George
Bush, who flatly denied it could be him as he had nothing to do with
that stuff) indicate that he was involved in the CIA operations
against Castro. I vastly dislike Australia's current Prime Minister,
but I would never blame him for things there was no evidence for. I do
not operate that way, contrare to your opinion.
Sandy McCroskey
Has it been established that Bush *had* the info in question before
JFK was dead?
/sandy
John McAdams
<gwmcc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
I've attached the memo.
It's not clear on when Bush got the information.
Of course, even if he had it a day or two, Bush or anybody else might
have assumed that the fellow was a blowhard.
There are always some hotheads saying the president should be shot,
and while we could second guess anybody on that, a lot of people might
blow that off.
In the event, Parrot had nothing to do with the JFK murder. So if
Bush thought the fellow was a harmless blowhard, he was correct.
.John
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Anthony Marsh
Yeah, right. The way Hosty assumed that Oswald was a blowhard. The way
the Secret Service assumed that Byke was a blowhard.
>
> There are always some hotheads saying the president should be shot,
> and while we could second guess anybody on that, a lot of people might
> blow that off.
>
The allegation was not that he said the President should be shot.
The allegation was that he intended to shoot the President. Not the same
thing.
> In the event, Parrot had nothing to do with the JFK murder. So if
> Bush thought the fellow was a harmless blowhard, he was correct.
>
Maybe only because someone else got to the President first.
> .John
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tomnln
"John McAdams" <john.m...@marquette.edu> wrote in message
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If Bush "thought the fellow was a blowhard" Bush would NOT have brought it
to the attention of the FBI.
Anthony Marsh
It's what we call in the US the "Old Boy Network." One does not have to be
officially a CIA officer in order to assist in CIA operations. Sometimes
old fraternity chums will help each other out.