Norad announcement on JFK's assassination
Thalia
posted?)
http://heraldnet.com/article/20091122/NEWS01/711229916/-1/news01
Peter Fokes
Perhaps your first post got lost in cyberspace.
I did see and repost your second attempt in the inbox this morning.
Cheers
Peter Fokes,
Toronto
Thalia
Just speculation, but the airforce might have had observers in Dealey
Plaza. Anyone who was there and saw Kennedy's head blown off would
have known it was a fatal injury.
Thalia
> On 23 Nov 2009 10:13:34 -0500, Thalia <thaliac...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Will try this again(moderators please advise why this is not being
> >posted?)
>
> >http://heraldnet.com/article/20091122/NEWS01/711229916/-1/news01
>
> Perhaps your first post got lost in cyberspace.
>
> I did see and repost your second attempt in the inbox this morning.
>
> Cheers
> Peter Fokes,
> Toronto
Thankyou :-)
cdddraftsman
For Norad's announcement to have relevance to the assassination , LHO
would to have to of shot JFK from a inbound Soviet bomber .
tl
Anthony Marsh
It doesn't work that way. The reports of the shooting went out immediately
on the wire services which are monitored by intelligence. Some agencies
just by coincidence had agents in Dealey Plaza and they reported in within
the hour. But there was an overload of the phone system in Washington and
everyone had trouble getting through. There were only a few secure
dedicated lines from Dallas. Radio communication was more reliable.
It wasn't that long before SAC was on high alert.
bigdog
There is always an Air Force officer with the Predident carrying the
"football", the brief case that carries the nuclear launch codes. Such an
officer would have a high security clearance and would clearly know how to
contact NORAD immediately. This officer would have gone to Parkland with
the President and would have known much sooner than any newsman that JFK's
head wound was fatal. He might not have even waited until JFK was
pronounced dead to inform his superiors. Anyone who saw that wound would
know JFK could not survive. I'm going to take an educated guess that he
immediately reported to LBJ. An assassination of the commander-in-chief
during the height of the Cold War could have been a precursor to a
surprise nuclear attack and I'm sure he was trained to know what actions
he should take in that event.
yeuhd
Merriman Smith in Dallas, who was riding in the motorcade, was transmitted
nationwide at 12:34 p.m. His second UPI flash bulletin, transmitted
nationwide at 12:39 p.m., after Smith had seen Kennedy removed from the
car at Parkland, mentioned "assassin's bullet", "underpass" and "perhaps
fatally".
http://jeff560.tripod.com/upi.html
At 12:41, a subsequent Smith dispatch quoted Secret Service agent
Clint Hill as saying, "He's dead."
http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/albertme.htm
All before the television networks got on the air with the story. CBS made
the first of several audio break-in announcements at 12:40 p.m., but did
not take its regular program, the serial "Days of Our Lives", off the air
until 12:47.
The subject of the article says that they were watching a game show on the
television in the break room, which suggests they were tuned to NBC or
ABC, which got on the air with the breaking story later than CBS did. (NBC
made its first break-in at 12:45, and ABC did not take its regular program
off the air until about 1:00.)
So, the article is really about the time gap between the wire services and
the television networks.
Mitch Todd
Has anyone considered that the Presidential SS detachment would have
contacted Air Force One to alert them to the assassination and to have
the Presidential aircraft ready to go as soon as possible?
> It wasn't that long before SAC was on high alert.
From what dad remembers, the alert level was raised, but not to anything
that he would consider "high alert"
Anthony Marsh
> "Anthony Marsh"<anthon...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 11/23/2009 11:22 AM, Thalia wrote:
>>>> Will try this again(moderators please advise why this is not being
>>>> posted?)
>>>>
>>>> http://heraldnet.com/article/20091122/NEWS01/711229916/-1/news01
>>>
>>> Just speculation, but the airforce might have had observers in Dealey
>>> Plaza. Anyone who was there and saw Kennedy's head blown off would
>>> have known it was a fatal injury.
>>
>> It doesn't work that way. The reports of the shooting went out immediately
>> on the wire services which are monitored by intelligence. Some agencies
>> just by coincidence had agents in Dealey Plaza and they reported in within
>> the hour. But there was an overload of the phone system in Washington and
>> everyone had trouble getting through. There were only a few secure
>> dedicated lines from Dallas. Radio communication was more reliable.
>
> Has anyone considered that the Presidential SS detachment would have
> contacted Air Force One to alert them to the assassination and to have
> the Presidential aircraft ready to go as soon as possible?
>
Has anyone considered that you can SEE Clint Hill doing exactly that on
the SS car radio?
>
>> It wasn't that long before SAC was on high alert.
>
> From what dad remembers, the alert level was raised, but not to anything
> that he would consider "high alert"
>
Just the highest level under full war.
>
>
Mitch Todd
> On 11/26/2009 10:46 PM, Mitch Todd wrote:
>> "Anthony Marsh"<anthon...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> On 11/23/2009 11:22 AM, Thalia wrote:
>>>>> Will try this again(moderators please advise why this is not being
>>>>> posted?)
>>>>>
>>>>> http://heraldnet.com/article/20091122/NEWS01/711229916/-1/news01
>>>>
>>>> Just speculation, but the airforce might have had observers in Dealey
>>>> Plaza. Anyone who was there and saw Kennedy's head blown off would
>>>> have known it was a fatal injury.
>>>
>>> It doesn't work that way. The reports of the shooting went out
>>> immediately
>>> on the wire services which are monitored by intelligence. Some agencies
>>> just by coincidence had agents in Dealey Plaza and they reported in
>>> within
>>> the hour. But there was an overload of the phone system in Washington
>>> and
>>> everyone had trouble getting through. There were only a few secure
>>> dedicated lines from Dallas. Radio communication was more reliable.
>>
>> Has anyone considered that the Presidential SS detachment would have
>> contacted Air Force One to alert them to the assassination and to have
>> the Presidential aircraft ready to go as soon as possible?
>
> Has anyone considered that you can SEE Clint Hill doing exactly that on
> the SS car radio?
You may be thinking of someone else. Hill's report says that he "advised
the Air Force Aide that we wanted Air Force No. One moved to a different
location at Love Field" at Parkland just after the casket was ordered at
about 1:20pm.
>>> It wasn't that long before SAC was on high alert.
>>
>> From what dad remembers, the alert level was raised, but not to anything
>> that he would consider "high alert"
>
> Just the highest level under full war.
That would be Defcon 1 or 2, depending on who you ask. We never went to
Defcon 1 that I know of, and only went to Defcon 2 during the Cuban
Missile Crisis and (for few units near the crisis point) during the Yom
Kippu War.