REQ: Any Islamic Art Asciis?
cgg
Alien Eggman
> Looking for asciis with a Moslem theme: symbols, mosques, Arabic saying.
Gimme some links to find them & I might try to make some.
Or at least name a few symbols so I can google them.
Don't forget the alphabet...heh, if I actually get inspired I'll
convert it to a figlet font.
Not saying I'll actually help, just saying I did not find any workable
images I liked using google images...so you'll have beeter luck if I
(we) have something to go on.
-Zot
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Alien Eggman wrote in message <111f5200.0311...@posting.google.com>...
Zot - go to :-
http://www.islamicpictures.com/images/velvet_catalog_5.jpg
It's a REALLY SMALL graphic, but the top part of it is the Arabic glyph
that represents the name "Allah" in written form.
The bottom bit is more than likely to be a passage from the Qu'ran (Koran)
but it does not need to accompany the main glyph.
There are a number of UNICODE fonts that cover the whole Arabic alphabet
but this is a kind of odd version of the Arabic language similar to that
found on Arabic typewriters. The Arabic script suffers from a problem;
some of the "letters" represent names, whole words, or even phrases. The
grammatical system is entirely different from that of English.
And it's read and written from right to left.
Hows' about this for a challenging picture to make into an ASCII ?
http://www.molon.de/galleries/Malaysia/Putrajaya/imagehtm/image2.htm
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>cgg <garvieS...@iafrica.com> wrote in message news:<5fj5svss8ddhd38bd...@4ax.com>...
>> Looking for asciis with a Moslem theme: symbols, mosques, Arabic saying.
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>Gimme some links to find them & I might try to make some.
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>Or at least name a few symbols so I can google them.
Try http://webclipart.miningco.com/library/weekly/aa082002.htm
http://www.ladydorothea125.net/Christo-Pagan2.html
Thanks.
Sharky
<garvieS...@iafrica.com> wrote:
>Looking for asciis with a Moslem theme: symbols, mosques, Arabic saying.
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The end of Islam.
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I wonder if you'd find that joke funny with a caption saying "the end
of Israel" or "the end of amerikkka"...
Sharky
un.gabacho.s...@free.fr wrote:
Only if you ended it with "In God We Trust". Of course if it were
about ending france it would say "God hates the french". ;-)
un.gabacho.s...@free.fr
> >> The end of Islam.
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> >I wonder if you'd find that joke funny with a caption saying "the end
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> Only if you ended it with "In God We Trust".
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> about ending france it would say "God hates the french". ;-)
Why not. Last time I met him he was still addict to Bourgogne,
nevertheless :-)
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." ". 26 Nov 2003 22:21:29 -0800
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>Lost my motivation...so that's all I'll likely do any time soon...I
>hope it helped/was what ya wanted...good luck finding more!
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>& now fer some differing faiths...
That's not a faith that's TV.
Sharky
<Gam...@work.stomping.aza> wrote:
>>I wonder if you'd find that joke funny with a caption saying "the end
>>of Israel" or "the end of amerikkka"...
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If you try a-bomb every muslim around the world that will make earth
a bad place to live in. If not by creating terrorism all around the
world (not only among muslims but also among the people suffering
form 'collateral damages') then simply by radioactivity.
Even if I would in principle support bombing people who's only crime
is believing in the wrong God I wouldn't support the use of a-bombs
because they make a territory uninhabitable (possibly for a time
longer than mankind will exist). But that's just a would because I
hold the truth to be self-evident that *all* men are created equal
and have equal rights (which include the right to live).
BTW: I cannot recall that Jesus said 'kill the romans' or 'kill the
jews' even though he would have had good reasons to do so.
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Josef 'Jupp' Schugt
Alien Eggman
TV's a faith...thousands of brainwashed children can't be wrong.
Alien Eggman
Jesus did say KILL THE JEWS...they started with him, then forgot what
he said ;)
I'm agnostic...I'll draw anything that inspires me...I'll also argue
for and against both sides... I think bickering over which faith is
the correct one is slightly more then silly...but it is fun to watch.
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>* Sharky; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:11:52 -0500
Islam is fucking sick with its "ISLAM KNOWS BEST" and "KILL NON MUSLIMS"
and all the other crazy brainwashing shit. It was designed to make a
cult leader very powerful, not to help people. I think Islam is the
greatest threat to the world today.
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Well, good thing your not a christian...if you were I bet the mere
thought of the crusades would make you want to kill yourself...
un.gabacho.s...@free.fr
> Islam is fucking sick with its "ISLAM KNOWS BEST" and "KILL NON MUSLIMS"
> and all the other crazy brainwashing shit. It was designed to make a
> cult leader very powerful, not to help people. I think Islam is the
> greatest threat to the world today.
I think that the existence of people stupid enough to have such
roughly-shaded opinions is the greatest threat to the world today.
EvilAllah(tm)
> Islam is fucking sick with its "ISLAM KNOWS BEST" and "KILL NON MUSLIMS"
> and all the other crazy brainwashing shit. It was designed to make a
> cult leader very powerful, not to help people. I think Islam is the
> greatest threat to the world today.
The same can be said for christianity, judiasm, hinduism, etc etc.
It's not just Islam that's dangerous. It's /religion/.
On a side note, your 40 line skeleton sucks.
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Josef 'Jupp' Schugt
> Bateau wrote:
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>> Islam is fucking sick with its "ISLAM KNOWS BEST" and "KILL NON
>> MUSLIMS" and all the other crazy brainwashing shit. It was
>> designed to make a cult leader very powerful, not to help people.
>> I think Islam is the greatest threat to the world today.
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> The same can be said for christianity, judiasm, hinduism, etc etc.
>
> It's not just Islam that's dangerous. It's /religion/.
Islam *is* dangerous - e.g. for muslims living in Palestine. As was
judaism for the jews in Germany, as is chritianity for the christians
living in certain parts of Africa, as is hinduism for the hindus
living in certain parts of India.
I think that the most important threat is supposing that there is
simple one-size-fits-it-all one-and-for-all time solution to any
problem and then putting a taboo on it.
To give an example: Democracy.
In order to be functional a democracy requires that a large majority
of the people actually understands the implications of a decision
they make. Nowadays many issuses are so involved that this
requirement often cannot be met. Nevertheless it is a taboo to ask
for alternative solutions that do not have that disadvantage.
Such an alternative perhaps means that we need to delegate the power
to people who did *proof* that they know what the best decision is.
No, I don't suggest a dictatorship. If that is dictatorship then how
does one call 'delegating the power to people who try to give us the
feeling that they know what the best decision is and often fail
miserabely'? - I do *not* have the situation in the USA in mind (I
know to little about it) but the situation in Germany. I will never
understand why people protest if a party they did vote for does what
it announced to do. The greens announced: We will increase the fuel
prices. Afterwards many of the people who voted for them protested
against the raising fuel prizes. :-|
Something seems to be going terribly wrong with mankind...
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Bateau
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>Bateau <Gam...@work.stomping.aza> writes:
Islam promotes violence and conquest. How is this not a threat?
EvilAllah(tm)
> Islam promotes violence and conquest. How is this not a threat?
Let's take a look at some quotes
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest
who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be
purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers,
with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord,
the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether
man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that
some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by
encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine
the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a
detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and
completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then
you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put
the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God.
That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none
of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will
turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion
on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your
ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and
keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to
him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife,
or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you
and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or
far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or
listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but
kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the
people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he
sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of
the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this,
shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy
13:7-12 NAB)
I guess you're right, that is a pretty cruddy, violent, racist, exclusionist
religion.
Except those quotes aren't from the koran. They're from the Judeo-Christian
bible.
It's RELIGION that's a threat, that incites violence and hatred, not just
one particular religion.
Bateau
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>Bateau wrote:
Muslims actually pay attention to the violent bits of their book.
Dickhead.
EvilAllah(tm)
>>Except those quotes aren't from the koran. They're from the
>>Judeo-Christian bible.
>>
>>It's RELIGION that's a threat, that incites violence and hatred, not just
>>one particular religion.
>
> Muslims actually pay attention to the violent bits of their book.
> Dickhead.
And Christians don't? Tell that to Matthew Shepard.
Josef 'Jupp' Schugt
> Muslims actually pay attention to the violent bits of their book.
There *are* muslims that believe that their religion has a concept of
a just war but but there are also *christians* that belive in the
same including the commander of one of world's most powerful armies.
That same man supports muslims that have 'There is no other God but
Allah and Mohammed is his prophet' in their contry's flag:
Saudi-Arabia. Near the house where I live (Bonn, former capital of
FRG) there is an Arab school that Saudi-Arabia pays for. Recently
there was severe political trouble about that school because a TV
station broadcasted a report that indicated this school is a magnet
for fundamentalists from whole FRG.
I wonder what the strategy behind fighting said-to-be-supporters of
fundamantalism with the help of known supporters is :-|
Josef 'Jupp' Schugt
Alien Eggman
<snip of a skeleton that's too LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG>
several more levels then the other person could ever be.
Heh, if your not reading & following the whole thing your going to
HELL!
To blame the Muslims for following through with their faith when you
do not expect others, or more importantly yourself to, then that, in a
way, actually makes them the better people.
Besides, all in all, the Christians have killed WAY MORE then the
Muslims have, if you count the crusades, witch hunts, and the
persecution of the Jews and pegans.
I have very little respect for a Christian that has not read his or
her bible, and even less for one that has and does not follow it.
Ignorance and blind faith is one thing, knowledge and hypocrisy is
quite another.
I have read it, and reading it is one of the reasons I'm no longer a
member of the church.
Bateau
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>Bateau wrote:
>
>>>Except those quotes aren't from the koran. They're from the
>>>Judeo-Christian bible.
>>>
>>>It's RELIGION that's a threat, that incites violence and hatred, not just
>>>one particular religion.
>>
>> Muslims actually pay attention to the violent bits of their book.
>> Dickhead.
>
>And Christians don't? Tell that to Matthew Shepard.
No not generally.
Bateau
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>Bateau <Gam...@work.stomping.aza> wrote in message news:<f5vjsvoaaavshi111...@4ax.com>...
I called him a dickhead cause he is!
>Heh, if your not reading & following the whole thing your going to
>HELL!
>
>To blame the Muslims for following through with their faith when you
>do not expect others, or more importantly yourself to, then that, in a
>way, actually makes them the better people.
I blame them for having the faith DICKHAED.
>Besides, all in all, the Christians have killed WAY MORE then the
>Muslims have, if you count the crusades, witch hunts, and the
>persecution of the Jews and pegans.
They pretty much quit doing that shit tho DICKMAN.
>I have very little respect for a Christian that has not read his or
>her bible, and even less for one that has and does not follow it.
>Ignorance and blind faith is one thing, knowledge and hypocrisy is
>quite another.
>
>I have read it, and reading it is one of the reasons I'm no longer a
>member of the church.
--
un.gabacho.s...@free.fr
> Muslims actually pay attention to the violent bits of their book.
You seem to pay attention to lots of hollow bullshit.
> Dickhead.
That's your real name ? Very pleased.
Anonymous
Bateau wrote in message ...
>>It's RELIGION that's a threat, that incites violence and hatred, not just
>>one particular religion.
>
>Muslims actually pay attention to the violent bits of their book.
I'm Islamic and have never felt any need or urge to kill anyone. I'm quite
pacifistic, actually.
My wife (also a non-murdering Muslim) is from Indonesia. I have been there
twice so far (where nobody seemed to be killing anybody else), and met my
in-laws (who are also non-violent).
I went to visit all her old school friends (none of whom are killers) and
met many people whom I now consider to be friends (and not murderers).
The mere mention of the names "Osama bin Laden" or "Saddam Hussein" is not
taboo as such, but is treated with scorn. The average Islamic person does
not follow the extremist (bin Laden) or fundamentalist (Taliban) viewpoint
that the Koran must be followed to the letter.
Most of them treat it like the average Christian treats the Bible - they
don't take the killing parts literally.
In fact, Islam and Christianity are so similar it's unreal. The Koran
even recognizes Jesus (although not as the son of God but as a great
prophet). The Koran's Christ-like figure Mohammed is not revered as the
son of God either; he is known as the last prophet.
I spoke to my sister-in-law very shortly after September 11th 2001. She
- and the rest of our family - was absolutely shocked and disgusted with
the events that took place on that day. She was saddened and frightened
that those lives were taken "in the name of Allah".
The fighting in Indonesia at the moment is mostly civil unrest due to the
independance of East Timor, and the other islands that are trying to
seperate from central Indonesian rule. There is very little fighting
between the Muslim majority population and the Christian/Bhuddist/Hindu
people (who make up the 25% of the population who are not Islamic).
They're a good people. They don't kill because their holy book tells
them to. In fact, the vast majority of them don't kill at all.
Any Islamic fundamentalist or extremist who kills in the name of Allah is
doing so because that's what they were brought up to do from a very early
age. It's all they know, and all they have ever known.
Don't pass off all Muslims as violent killers bent on world domination,
because it's simply not true.
--
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Sharky
wrote:
>Bateau wrote in message ...
>>>It's RELIGION that's a threat, that incites violence and hatred, not just
>>>one particular religion.
>>
>>Muslims actually pay attention to the violent bits of their book.
>
>I'm Islamic and have never felt any need or urge to kill anyone. I'm quite
>pacifistic, actually.
It's probably only because the 70 virgins are female, eh? If they had
a martyr system for fags, you'd change your tune.
Anonymous
Sharky wrote in message ...
Must we decend to stupid playground insults? I'm not gay. I also don't
believe in the virgins-for-martyrs thing, same as most Muslims.
un.gabacho.s...@free.fr
> >>>Muslims actually pay attention to the violent bits of their book.
> >>I'm Islamic and have never felt any need or urge to kill anyone. I'm quite
> >>pacifistic, actually.
> >It's probably only because the 70 virgins are female, eh? If they had
> >a martyr system for fags, you'd change your tune.
> Must we decend to stupid playground insults? I'm not gay.
And I you were gay, you would not deserve any contempt for that.
But one surely deserve contempt for uttering homophobic insults.
Sharky
wrote:
>
>Sharky wrote in message ...
>>In message <bqfaig$got$1...@visp.bt.co.uk> "Anonymous" <gu...@guest.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Bateau wrote in message ...
>>>>>It's RELIGION that's a threat, that incites violence and hatred, not just
>>>>>one particular religion.
>>>>
>>>>Muslims actually pay attention to the violent bits of their book.
>>>
>>>I'm Islamic and have never felt any need or urge to kill anyone. I'm quite
>>>pacifistic, actually.
>>
>>It's probably only because the 70 virgins are female, eh? If they had
>>a martyr system for fags, you'd change your tune.
>
>Must we decend to stupid playground insults? I'm not gay. I also don't
>believe in the virgins-for-martyrs thing, same as most Muslims.
It's ok, you don't have to be ashamed of your sexual preferences. We
won't stone you to death or cut your extremities off here. ;-)
And if you wanted to have a meaningful discussion on religions, then
IMO you've chosen the wrong group. I seriously doubt anybody really
wants this topic explored in depth in this group, unless maybe if it's
depicted in ascii art.
Sharky
EvilAllah(tm)
>>Bateau wrote:
>>
>>>>Except those quotes aren't from the koran. They're from the
>>>>Judeo-Christian bible.
>>>>
>>>>It's RELIGION that's a threat, that incites violence and hatred, not
>>>>just one particular religion.
>>>
>>> Muslims actually pay attention to the violent bits of their book.
>>> Dickhead.
>>
>>And Christians don't? Tell that to Matthew Shepard.
>
> No not generally.
Generally neither do muslims. You seem to be forgetting that there are
millions of them who have never blown up anybody,
Bateau
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>Bateau wrote:
>
>>>Bateau wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Except those quotes aren't from the koran. They're from the
>>>>>Judeo-Christian bible.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's RELIGION that's a threat, that incites violence and hatred, not
>>>>>just one particular religion.
>>>>
>>>> Muslims actually pay attention to the violent bits of their book.
>>>> Dickhead.
>>>
>>>And Christians don't? Tell that to Matthew Shepard.
>>
>> No not generally.
>
>Generally neither do muslims. You seem to be forgetting that there are
>millions of them who have never blown up anybody,
Generally muslims support muslim conquest.
Bateau
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>
>Bateau wrote in message ...
>>>It's RELIGION that's a threat, that incites violence and hatred, not just
>>>one particular religion.
>>
>>Muslims actually pay attention to the violent bits of their book.
>
>I'm Islamic and have never felt any need or urge to kill anyone. I'm quite
>pacifistic, actually.
Then you are not truely islamic.
>My wife (also a non-murdering Muslim) is from Indonesia. I have been there
>twice so far (where nobody seemed to be killing anybody else), and met my
>in-laws (who are also non-violent).
Hahahahahahaha indonesia isn't violent?
>I went to visit all her old school friends (none of whom are killers) and
>met many people whom I now consider to be friends (and not murderers).
>
>The mere mention of the names "Osama bin Laden" or "Saddam Hussein" is not
>taboo as such, but is treated with scorn. The average Islamic person does
>not follow the extremist (bin Laden) or fundamentalist (Taliban) viewpoint
>that the Koran must be followed to the letter.
Then why follow it at all?
>Most of them treat it like the average Christian treats the Bible - they
>don't take the killing parts literally.
How are you supposed to take them?
>In fact, Islam and Christianity are so similar it's unreal. The Koran
>even recognizes Jesus (although not as the son of God but as a great
>prophet). The Koran's Christ-like figure Mohammed is not revered as the
>son of God either; he is known as the last prophet.
>
>I spoke to my sister-in-law very shortly after September 11th 2001. She
>- and the rest of our family - was absolutely shocked and disgusted with
>the events that took place on that day. She was saddened and frightened
>that those lives were taken "in the name of Allah".
>
>The fighting in Indonesia at the moment is mostly civil unrest due to the
>independance of East Timor, and the other islands that are trying to
>seperate from central Indonesian rule. There is very little fighting
>between the Muslim majority population and the Christian/Bhuddist/Hindu
>people (who make up the 25% of the population who are not Islamic).
>
>They're a good people. They don't kill because their holy book tells
>them to. In fact, the vast majority of them don't kill at all.
>
>Any Islamic fundamentalist or extremist who kills in the name of Allah is
>doing so because that's what they were brought up to do from a very early
>age. It's all they know, and all they have ever known.
>
>Don't pass off all Muslims as violent killers bent on world domination,
>because it's simply not true.
They all support muslim invasion and oppression of other countries.
Their religion requires them to.
Bateau
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>Bateau <Gam...@work.stomping.aza> writes:
fag
Anonymous
Bateau wrote in message ...
>>pacifistic, actually.
>
>Then you are not truely islamic.
Really?
There isn't any religious faith on this earth that requires people to kill other people (other than devil worship)
>>My wife (also a non-murdering Muslim) is from Indonesia. I have been there
>>twice so far (where nobody seemed to be killing anybody else), and met my
>>in-laws (who are also non-violent).
>
>Hahahahahahaha indonesia isn't violent?
The vast majority of Indonesians aren't. There are extremists, and seperatists, who want their particular islands to be seperated.
There are demonstrations against the government (who are quite unpopular at the moment, and there are allegations of corruption).
Plus, the economy is shot to hell.
These are all problems that, in the past, have plagued various major powers globally.
Look at Argentina; they're a majority Christian populace, and they're having similar difficulties (albeit without claims for
independance as Indonesia has had to deal with). Aside from the Falklands conflict, they're not a violent population either.
>>I went to visit all her old school friends (none of whom are killers) and
>>met many people whom I now consider to be friends (and not murderers).
>>
>>The mere mention of the names "Osama bin Laden" or "Saddam Hussein" is not
>>taboo as such, but is treated with scorn. The average Islamic person does
>>not follow the extremist (bin Laden) or fundamentalist (Taliban) viewpoint
>>that the Koran must be followed to the letter.
>
>Then why follow it at all?
Because all of the rest of the Koran's content promotes a civil and peaceful existance, teaches virtue, and shows man that for all
his worldly power, he is nothing compared to the power of Allah (in exactly the same way the Bible does).
Further to the Koran / Bible comparison, the Adam and Eve story, Noah's Ark, Moses, and many other major Bible stories are also
included in the Koran.
>>Most of them treat it like the average Christian treats the Bible - they
>>don't take the killing parts literally.
>
>How are you supposed to take them?
These are treated in context of society. Do you think that the Pope considers these to be the will of God?
>>Don't pass off all Muslims as violent killers bent on world domination,
>>because it's simply not true.
>
>They all support muslim invasion and oppression of other countries.
>Their religion requires them to.
What part of their religion requires them to invade, or support the invasion of other countries?
I've never been told to do that, and neither have any of my in-laws.
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> There isn't any religious faith on this earth that requires people
> to kill other people (other than devil worship)
Actually, that depends on what devil worship your talking
about. Lots of satanists view the devil to be oneself;
atheistic self-worshipping. http://www.dpjs.co.uk/modern.html
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>>Muslims actually pay attention to the violent bits of their book.
>
>
> You seem to pay attention to lots of hollow bullshit.
>
>
>>Dickhead.
>
>
> That's your real name ? Very pleased.
LOL, great idea to make him look even more stupid :)
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EvilAllah(tm)
Ok, officially bored with you. you're talking much and saying little.
And is the 40 line skeleton at the beginning of every message really
necessary?
un.gabacho.s...@free.fr
> >> Dickhead.
> >
> >That's your real name ? Very pleased.
>
> fag
A new nickname of yours ? You're a polymorphic perverse.
un.gabacho.s...@free.fr
> >
>
> >>Muslims actually pay attention to the violent bits of their book.
> > You seem to pay attention to lots of hollow bullshit.
>
> >
>
> >>Dickhead.
> > That's your real name ? Very pleased.
>
>
> LOL, great idea to make him look even more stupid :)
He does not need any help.
Homophoby and racism are surely signs of deep mental backwardness.
Ivana Marinkovic
~Muslims actually pay attention to the violent bits of their book.
Various interpretations of holy books depending of time and place. May I remind
that Christians and Jews were allowed to continue their religion practices under
Islam, while Moslems in Europe at the same time suffered a bit different fate.
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Josef 'Jupp' Schugt
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:32:20 +0800, Bateau <Gam...@work.stomping.aza> wrote:
>
> ~Muslims actually pay attention to the violent bits of their book.
>
> Various interpretations of holy books depending of time and place.
> May I remind that Christians and Jews were allowed to continue
> their religion practices under Islam,
As a result oft the discussion I took a closer look at the Koran and
was a bit surprised to read that Sura 2 verse 59ff explicitly states
that Christians and Jews who believe in God and Doomsday and do good
deeds will be rewarded by God.
OBASCII: Israel's flag - I started drawing the star but then became
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Sharky
<Pine.LNX.4.58-035....@unix46.andrew.cmu.edu> "Arthur
J. O'Dwyer" <a...@nospam.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>
>On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, EvilAllah(tm) wrote:
>> Bateau wrote:
>>
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>> > | | \ \
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>
>> And is the 40 line skeleton at the beginning of every message really
>> necessary?
>
> nabis, maybe you could be persuaded to forbid Bateau from
>using your [implicitly copyrighted] work in this manner? It
>would mean a lot to the rest of us. :) Frankly, I don't know
>why you've allowed Bateau to keep attaching it to his trash
>all this time, anyway.
If you don't like it, then don't read his posts. It really is that
simple.
Bateau
." ". 03 Dec 2003 10:58:00 +0100
>
I dont understand you!
Bateau
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If it wasn't would I have it?
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>Vit Brunner <tas...@nospam.cz> writes:
Homophoby is not a real word and makes you look stupid, so does
pretending that whenever someone says something they're saying it's
their name.
Bateau
." ". Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:31:29 +0000 (UTC)
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You snipped my skeleton! If you can't play nicely then you will be
excluded. Goodbye!
Alien Eggman
it's not all that simple if your ISP does not carry news groups and
your stuck on google *is too cheap to PAY extra*
Though, I get a kick outta his sig...as I originally sent it to him
(so he would "shut the hell up") heh, now I wonder if when he posts he
thinks tohimself "HEY, I'm the one that should shut the hell
up"...while that's unlikely I still get a kick outta it.
As fer that MASSIVE header...IMO, it should just change...it's TOO
BIG, I like the art & all, but fer a header it's, well...BIG. And he
bitches that converted art is not art...heh
Hey, Bateau, your header is TOO big...you should make it smaller...if
you want ppl to believe in your views, maybe you should start
following (most) everyone else's views.
*snicker* that trick never works...
I think I'll do my best to ignore him from now on though...do a search
fer him on google groups, you'll see he trolls SEVERAL others as well.
You'll also notice that he's not well liked out here in cyber space.
:) *shrug*
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>>>>Bateau wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>Bateau wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Except those quotes aren't from the koran. They're from the
>>>>>>>>Judeo-Christian bible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It's RELIGION that's a threat, that incites violence and hatred, not
>>>>>>>>just one particular religion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Muslims actually pay attention to the violent bits of their book.
>>>>>>> Dickhead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And Christians don't? Tell that to Matthew Shepard.
>>>>>
>>>>> No not generally.
>>>>
>>>>Generally neither do muslims. You seem to be forgetting that there are
>>>>millions of them who have never blown up anybody,
>>>
>>> Generally muslims support muslim conquest.
>>
>>Ok, officially bored with you. you're talking much and saying little.
>>
>>And is the 40 line skeleton at the beginning of every message really
>>necessary?
>
> If it wasn't would I have it?
You would if you were a douchebag.
Sharky
<Pine.LNX.4.58-035....@unix48.andrew.cmu.edu> "Arthur
J. O'Dwyer" <a...@nospam.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>The reason I complained when I did is because there are at
>least three people who read this group who could do something
>to make Bateau's posts less obnoxious. Bateau herself, of course;
>but also n4bis and Alien Eggman, whose art she's co-opting.
Quit trying to get other people to enforce your censorship. People who
wish to force others to comply with their will are generally
considered to be assholes.
Again, if you don't like it - don't read it.
Sharky
alien_...@yahoo.com (Alien Eggman) wrote:
>> If you don't like it, then don't read his posts. It really is that
>> simple.
>
>
>it's not all that simple if your ISP does not carry news groups and
>your stuck on google *is too cheap to PAY extra*
Sign up for a great FREE server at http://news.individual.net/ . And
you can get a good FREE news reader at -
http://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.php .
You'll be glad you did.
Bateau
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>On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Alien Eggman wrote:
>>
>> Sharky <sha...@hellsgate.corg> wrote
>> > Arthur J. O'Dwyer wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Bateau wrote:
>> > >> > | | \ \
>> > >> > | |-nabis\ \_
>> > >> > | | /-._\
>> > >
>> > > nabis, maybe you could be persuaded to forbid Bateau from
>> > >using your [implicitly copyrighted] work in this manner? It
>> > >would mean a lot to the rest of us. :) Frankly, I don't know
>> > >why you've allowed Bateau to keep attaching it to his trash
>> > >all this time, anyway.
>> >
>> > If you don't like it, then don't read his posts. It really is that
>> > simple.
>
> Naturally. However, people with stupid ideas and big mouths
>are a dime a dozen on Usenet. I really don't care that Bateau
>is spewing garbage all over the 'Net. What annoys me is that
>she persists in warlording -- not only in the sig, where it could
>be dismissed as irrelevant or "cute," but in the attribution
>line. Forty-line attributions are obnoxious and stupid.
> The reason I complained when I did is because there are at
>least three people who read this group who could do something
>to make Bateau's posts less obnoxious. Bateau herself, of course;
>but also n4bis and Alien Eggman, whose art she's co-opting.
SHE!!!! YOU MOTHERFUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I AM A BOY>
And I don't warlord. Tahts when you fill it with quotes and shit. I save
that for my webpage: www.livejournal.com/~rastajew/
>> Though, I get a kick outta his sig...as I originally sent it to him
>> (so he would "shut the hell up") heh, now I wonder if when he posts he
>> thinks tohimself "HEY, I'm the one that should shut the hell
>> up"...while that's unlikely I still get a kick outta it.
>
> Yes, it's kind of ironic. And I'm not really mad at you, Eggman,
>because as I said, it's easier to ignore gigantic sigs. Hell, this
>is alt.ascii-art -- we're *supposed* to have interesting sigs, right?
>:-)
> n4bis, on the other hand, is just being a prick-by-proxy in
>condoning Bateau's behavior. At least n4bis could forbid Bateau
>from using his (her?) skeletons in the attribution, thus forcing
>Bateau to scrounge up another forty-line cesspool to annoy us
>with.
That gives me an idea. Why don't I copy my new sig into my attribution
line too? That would be hardcore.
> Not that the skeleton is bad -- actually, it looked quite nice
>when first it appeared in a.a-a here. After seeing it over and
>over attached to such repulsive opinions, though, and being
>annoyed by the length of the skeleton every time too, it's past
>the point of "beginning to pale." It flat out disgusts me now.
>
>> I think I'll do my best to ignore him from now on though...do a search
>> fer him on google groups, you'll see he trolls SEVERAL others as well.
>> You'll also notice that he's not well liked out here in cyber space.
>> :) *shrug*
>
> Of course -- I already knew Bateau was a troll and an idiot.
>That's not my beef. I'm just wondering whether n4bis and yourself
>agree with her views, given that you seem to want your work associated
>with them. Hell, forget the ideas about Islam -- why would you want
>to associate yourself with even a *non*-offensive troll-cum-idiot?
Sharky
<Gam...@work.stomping.aza> wrote:
>Why don't I copy my new sig into my attribution
>line too? That would be hardcore.
It'd be much more impressive in your headers, IMHO.
EvilAllah(tm)
King of the monsters is kinda weak, how bout
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un.gabacho.s...@free.fr
> Homophoby is not a real word and makes you look stupid, so does
> pretending that whenever someone says something they're saying it's
> their name.
How imaginative are you!...
You remember me the playground, when I was six... sigh...
Zotiel R. Bell
"Sharky" <sha...@hellsgate.corg> wrote in message
Thanks fer the link...now I no longer have to look at his sh!t :) :)
And HOPEFULLY won't have to sorry about posts shorter then 80 characters
wrapping like I did on google!
If you'd like the text in your new sig to match the SHUT THE HELL UP then...
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