Re: Portsmouth Thoughts //Rik
Will Dockery
>
> Portsmouth Thoughts
> -------------------
>
> With the marksman's lead threaded in his spine,
> they took him down to settle in the rocking dark
> alert to the cracks of battle: splintering wood;
> powdery bags heft from copper store to cannon;
> sharp wine in water; shouts; sweat. He bled
> in his ship of skin, three hours to reach death.
>
> We know him by his ship. I can guess this other
> caught in a glass display. He was a barber-surgeon
> sunk and drowned with his chest of knives and herbs,
> his leather shoe, his dice and coins, his bone nit-comb
> - tombed in Solent muds to wait on God's restoration.
> His name is with his bones; I do not know his face.
>
> I want to stitch wounds, make whole the world, but
> this hand that would hold a needle was once the air
> they breathed, the food they ate; soon to be mite-meal.
> We are the blood and bone of England: it will suffice.
>
> Rik, knee deep.
Hey Rik, good to see you back... as you know, I'm not much of a
"poetry critic" but I know this is some good stuff, so I'm saying so.
I'm "hearing" Ray Davies, and later, Andy Partridge here, two of the
greats of Brit poetry. Give it a backbeat and wail, man, yell it!
"Boody brilliant!"
Victoria
Long ago life was clean
Sex was bad and obscene
And the rich were so mean
Stately homes for the Lords
Croquet lawns, village greens
Victoria was my queen
Victoria, Victoria, Victoria, 'toria
I was born, lucky me
In a land that I love
Though I am poor, I am free
When I grow I shall fight
For this land I shall die
Let her sun never set
Victoria, Victoria, Victoria, 'toria
Victoria, Victoria, Victoria, toria
Land of hope and gloria
Land of my Victoria
Land of hope and gloria
Land of my Victoria
Victoria, 'toria
Victoria, Victoria, Victoria, 'toria
Canada to India
Australia to Cornwall
Singapore to Hong Kong
From the West to the East
From the rich to the poor
Victoria loved them all
Victoria, Victoria, Victoria, 'toria
Victoria, Victoria, Victoria
-Ray Davies
--
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http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
Peter J Ross
Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm "hearing" Ray Davies, and later, Andy Partridge here,
Anti-psychotic medication may help you.
--
PJR :-)
Will Dockery
>Will Dockery wrote:
> > I'm "hearing" Ray Davies, and later, Andy Partridge here,
>
> Anti-psychotic medication may help you.
Has it worked for you any yet?
The Ride (Combat Zone) by Will Dockery (words) & Dennis Beck (music):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lZ3VAmNTWc
The Ride (Combat Zone)
Driving through the combat zone
a rasta steps out,
sort of calling my name ---
a reasonable approximation.
Variation of my street name I guess.
Said he could take me to see Raine,
apparently the rastas have her locked up in a house
somewhere in the combat zone.
Girl of these woods and chemicals,
we labor for the black pigs of poetry,
for the bone gods of the sea,
for the secret rose you keep for me,
under the skirts of printed sunflowers.
He wanted money for his information,
at which point I was to park and walk.
It seemed very sinister, the thought of Raine held prisoner
But he smoothed it over fairly often.
said I could come back later,
when the bad vibes wore down.
There is a hollering and someone has a
dog that barks,
your eyes have that recently crying look,
and your hair seems as soft
and your smell as sweet, as before,
as that last time you came to my door,
in a skirt of printed sunflowers
Rasta gets crazy on me in the car,
wanting five dollars, two bucks, anything.
I give him nothing, just smoke and drink.
He's got an ice pick in his hand,
makes it sound like he's got a gun.
I'd already heard Raine was in jail
but I didn't expect a rasta jail.
But it has been seen that you look
straight through,
I fear that you are already gone,
that night you tried to die in my arms,
is something that I will not forget
or make sense of,
you and your skirt of printed sunflowers.
The image crossed my mind how it might feel
if he jabbed that icepick into me
a couple of times or more.
Just curious to see if he'd do it or not,
could I stop him, I could tell I didn't know.
Methinks that you no longer see nothing,
and God knows what kind
of love is this,
you told me that you never stopped loving me,
but you could never return to me,
in your skirt of sunflowers
in your skirt of sunflowers
I just stare and talk about money.
I bummed a cigarette from him.
I told him I'd be in touch about Raine.
He said, "Man, you crazy.", and walked off.
I went back home to think.
Girl of these woods and chemicals,
we labor for the black pigs of poetry,
for the bone gods of the sea,
for the secret rose you keep for me,
under the skirt of printed sunflowers.
-Will Dockery
Rik Roots
<snip>
Please don't post your poems to my thread, Will - surely they deserve
their own threads? And please don't change the thread title - it buggers
up any chance on locating it when I'm forced by circumstance to resort
to that awful Google groups website thingy.
And why crosspost so many new groups? If I'd wanted to post my poem to
aapc, don't you think I would have done so myself?
Just saying, innit.
> -Will Dockery
>
Rik, knee deep.
Will Dockery
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Please don't post your poems to my thread, Will -
Hello, Rik, great stuff, but I didn't write "Victoria", Ray Davies
did.
--
The Ride (Combat Zone)- by Will Dockery & Dennis Beck:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lZ3VAmNTWc
Rik Roots
> On Feb 10, 8:22 am, Rik Roots wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Please don't post your poems to my thread, Will -
>
> Hello, Rik, great stuff, but I didn't write "Victoria", Ray Davies
> did.
>
Dockery". Given that you're currently promoting the work and YouTube
video in your sig, I don't understand your need to further promote it by
changing the title of my thread.
> --
> The Ride (Combat Zone)- by Will Dockery & Dennis Beck:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lZ3VAmNTWc
>
Sincerely ...
Rik, knee deep.
Will Dockery
>
> But you did change the thread title to "The Ride (Combat Zone) by Will
> Dockery". Given that you're currently promoting the work and YouTube
> video in your sig, I don't understand your need to further promote it by
> changing the title of my thread.
>
> > --
> > The Ride (Combat Zone)- by Will Dockery & Dennis Beck:
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lZ3VAmNTWc
>
> Sincerely ...
> Rik, knee deep.
Since the thread had been stripped of all content anyhow, I decided to
add some rather than continue with wasted bandwidth and no content
other than just another endless flamewar with PJR.
Anyway, the title is back, so all is well?
On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built
Will Dockery says...
how truly sad you are, crackery.
most sincerely,
GodBuilt
--
-----------------------------------------------
"I am a false prophet and God is a superstition.." "Again!"
There Will Be Blood
Will Dockery
"Rik Roots" <r...@nowayhosay.org> wrote:
> Karla wrote:
> > Rik Roots says...
>
> <snip>
>
> >> Thank you, Peter, though I'll have to disagree. This one's proving to
be
> >> a bugger to craft - in fact I redrafted it last night, but when given
> >> the choice of posting the draft to rap or turning the 'puter off to go
> >> and watch CSI Las Vegas on the telly, um, Grissom & Co won the vote
> >> quite easily.
> >
> > I sure hope you're watching the current season of Blood in the Wire
since I
> > can't, and have to make do with catching up on past seasons from
Netflix. In
> > other words, don't tell me you /like/ CSI when you have a choice!
> >
> Not heard of Blood in the Wire.
>
> But there's other things to watch, yes. There's a new season of Pushing
> Daisies, for starters ...
More American "telly"? Any good Brit shows coming out these days you enjoy
that you can tip us off on?
A favorite of mine that never got much notice over here was Sandbaggers... I
was just lucky on that one that a friend gave me a home made tape of it rom
one of the few times it aired over here.
Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain
"Rik Roots" <r...@nowayhosay.org> wrote in message
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> Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Feb 10, 8:22 am, Rik Roots wrote:
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> Please don't post your poems to my thread, Will -
>>
>> Hello, Rik, great stuff, but I didn't write "Victoria", Ray Davies
>> did.
>>
> But you did change the thread title to "The Ride (Combat Zone) by Will
> Dockery". Given that you're currently promoting the work and YouTube video
> in your sig, I don't understand your need to further promote it by
> changing the title of my thread.
You must not have noticed that he's a narcisstic sociopathic shithead.
rik....@gmail.com
<noem...@here.invalidd> wrote:
> You must not have noticed that he's a narcisstic sociopathic shithead.
>
Please. The narcissism was present from Our Will's first crosspost
here from alt.wicca.whatever. Nevertheless, accepting that Our Will is
a narcissist, and nothing will ever change this state of things, is
the first step on being able to cope with the DockeryFlood that
regularly engulfs our little poetic cesspit.
Unlike the late, much lamented J R Sherman, I don't assume that
everyone who posts to rap is Stupid until proven otherwise. Rather, I
try to think of posters - such as Our Will - as a person first, and a
narcisstic sociopathic shithead second. A futile approach, maybe, but
a little optimism every now and again never hurts noone, innit.
Rik, knee deep
Will Dockery
>
> Our Will is a narcissist
"Just because you're a narcissist doesn't mean you're /not/ the king
of the world..."
-Harlan Ellison
--
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Peter J Ross
Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 14, 9:01 am, rik.ro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Our Will is a narcissist
>
> "Just because you're a narcissist doesn't mean you're /not/ the king
> of the world..."
> -Harlan Ellison
What makes you think you're the king of the world, Willy?
Will Dockery
> In rec.arts.poems on Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:43:32 -0800 (PST), Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Feb 14, 9:01 am, rik.ro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >> Our Will is a narcissist
>
> > "Just because you're a narcissist doesn't mean you're /not/ the king
> > of the world..."
> > -Harlan Ellison
>
> What makes you think you're the king of the world, Willy?
I didn't say I was, Rik did.
Peter J Ross
Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 14, 4:53 pm, Peter J Ross wrote:
>> In rec.arts.poems on Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:43:32 -0800 (PST), Will Dockery wrote:
>> > On Feb 14, 9:01 am, rik.ro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >> Our Will is a narcissist
>>
>> > "Just because you're a narcissist doesn't mean you're /not/ the king
>> > of the world..."
>> > -Harlan Ellison
>>
>> What makes you think you're the king of the world, Willy?
>
> I didn't say I was, Rik did.
Try not to blame Rik for your narcissism.
By the way, you and I have both seen photos of Rik. He's quite
handsome, so why are you sexually attracted to me instead of him?
Why do you dream about me instead of Rik? Seriously, WHY?
Will Dockery
>Will Dockery wrote:
>
> Try not to blame Rik for your narcissism.
I don't "blame" Rik for anything, much less a condition that obviously
doesn't even exist.
> By the way, you and I have both seen photos of Rik. He's quite
> handsome,
I've only seen the one photo of Rik, and he's a nice looking young
chap:
http://www.rikweb.co.uk/photos/rik-small.jpg
So, no argument or confusion on your part, there... but:
>so why are you sexually attracted to me instead of him?
Where did you get that idea? Just curious.
> Why do you dream about me instead of Rik? Seriously, WHY?
Furst, point out to me where you somehow see any sexual context in the
dream you appeared in? Notice the dream about Obama and the local
politician is a different one from the one about you.
Here's what I wrote:
"Oh, yeah... the "bluue-dy brilliant" line, spoken in the best Sean
Connery, is already a part of Usenet song and story.
I had a dream once where PJR came to Shadowville, or I went to
Northumberland and met him, I forget which but there's a conversation
with me & Stuart Leichter about it somewhere in the archives, four or
five years back. The most recent famous person I met in a dream was
Obama... a couple of nights ago he was here with a local lady
politician (in the dream), and I told a joke that he didn't laugh
about, something about my 'economic stimulus package'.
Glad to attempt to clear up your obvious confusion, though, PJR, and
hope this helps.
--
Poetry & music of Will Dockery:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
msifg
"Will Dockery" <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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*he's so polite.
Will Dockery
"Bloody charming!"
George Dance
On Feb 14, 11:53 pm, Will Dockery <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote:
<unsnip>
Rik Roots wrote:
> Portsmouth Thoughts
> -------------------
> With the marksman's lead threaded in his spine,
> they took him down to settle in the rocking dark
> alert to the cracks of battle: splintering wood;
> powdery bags heft from copper store to cannon;
> sharp wine in water; shouts; sweat. He bled
> in his ship of skin, three hours to reach death.
> We know him by his ship. I can guess this other
> caught in a glass display. He was a barber-surgeon
> sunk and drowned with his chest of knives and herbs,
> his leather shoe, his dice and coins, his bone nit-comb
> - tombed in Solent muds to wait on God's restoration.
> His name is with his bones; I do not know his face.
> I want to stitch wounds, make whole the world, but
> this hand that would hold a needle was once the air
> they breathed, the food they ate; soon to be mite-meal.
> We are the blood and bone of England: it will suffice.
> Rik, knee deep.
</us>
> On Feb 14, 4:53 pm, Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> > By the way, you and I have both seen photos of Rik. He's quite
> > handsome,
>
> I've only seen the one photo of Rik, and he's a nice looking young
> chap:
>
> http://www.rikweb.co.uk/photos/rik-small.jpg
>
Is that Barbara's Cat on the left?
Will Dockery
Heh... actually, as far as I remember, Rik's never positioned himself
very closely to Barbie's stench.
> So, no argument or confusion on your part, there... but:
>
> > >so why are you sexually attracted to me instead of him?
>
> > Where did you get that idea? Just curious.
>
> > > Why do you dream about me instead of Rik? Seriously, WHY?
>
> > Furst, point out to me where you somehow see any sexual context in the
> > dream you appeared in? Notice the dream about Obama and the local
> > politician is a different one from the one about you.
>
> > Here's what I wrote:
>
> > "Oh, yeah... the "bluue-dy brilliant" line, spoken in the best Sean
> > Connery, is already a part of Usenet song and story.
>
> > I had a dream once where PJR came to Shadowville, or I went to
> > Northumberland and met him, I forget which but there's a conversation
> > with me & Stuart Leichter about it somewhere in the archives, four or
> > five years back. The most recent famous person I met in a dream was
> > Obama... a couple of nights ago he was here with a local lady
> > politician (in the dream), and I told a joke that he didn't laugh
> > about, something about my 'economic stimulus package'.
>
> > Glad to attempt to clear up your obvious confusion, though, PJR, and
> > hope this helps.
--
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Orsen Wells w/Citizen Cain
"Just because you're a narcissist doesn't mean you're /not/ the king
of the world..."
-Harlan Ellison
"Will Dockery is a clueless twit.'
-Usenet consensus
Will Dockery
>
> >> But you did change the thread title to "The Ride (Combat Zone) by Will Dockery". Given that you're currently promoting the work and YouTube
>
> >> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lZ3VAmNTWc
>
Cheer up, I added some parody to the poem for you, so stop your
sobbing.
--
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Will Dockery
> "Will Dockery" wrote:
>
> "Just because you're a narcissist doesn't mean you're /not/ the king
> of the world..."
> -Harlan Ellison
>
> "Will Dockery"
Your favorite fantasy, as "We know".
--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6BGlXmtzE8
Vocals: Will Dockery. Music: The Shadowville Allstars. Based on
"Greybeard Cavalier" by Will Dockery, 0x0000 and Brian Fowler.
Video by Doug Cole
Peter J Ross
Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
<...>
> I had a dream once where PJR came to Shadowville,
Pervert.
<...>
Will Dockery
"Peter J Ross" wrote:
>Will Dockery wrote:
>
>
> Pervert.
How so, Pete?
Here's what I wrote:
"...I had a dream once where PJR came to Shadowville, or I went to
Northumberland and met him, I forget which but there's a conversation with
me & Stuart Leichter about it somewhere in the archives, four or five years
back. The most recent famous person I met in a dream was Obama... a couple
of nights ago he was here with a local lady politician (in the dream), and I
told a joke that he didn't laugh about, something about my 'economic
stimulus package'..."
Interested in seeing how you imagine perversion from that.
Peter J Ross
<will.d...@knology.net> wrote:
> "Peter J Ross" wrote:
>>Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> > I had a dream once where PJR came to Shadowville,
>>
>> Pervert.
>
> How so, Pete?
>
> Here's what I wrote:
>
> "...I had a dream once where PJR came to Shadowville,
What a me-loving pervert you are,
you are,
you are!
What a me-loving pervert you are!
(apologies to E. Lear)
<...>
(For those who have joined this conversation late, let me summarise:
Will Dreckery is afraid that some readers might think that he wants to
have sex with me. Meanwhile, I'm laughing at his contortions.)
Btw, Dreckery, you seem to have snipped the bit where I solemnly
promised to agree to have sex with you if you ever posted a poem you
wrote. I knew it was a safe promise to make, since you never post
anything but unspeakable shit and are incapable of writing a poem, but
I still feel that I was very generous in making such an offer to one
of my biggest fans.
Will Dockery
>Will Dockery wrote:
>>Peter J Ross wrote:
>>>Will Dockery wrote:
>
> >> >> > I had a dream once where PJR came to Shadowville,
>
> >> >> Pervert.
You still haven't answered how having a dream about meeting someone
makes the person a "pervert", but do tell.
> >> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pjr.jpg
>
> >> > Wishful thinking, PJR?
>
> >> It seems that men with long red hair turn you on.
>
> > What would make you think that?
>
> Your persistent fascination with a photo of a man who has long red
> hair would make me think that.
That's an interesting and revealing statement.
Does your persistent fascination with Chuck, his photograph, blog and
life mean that he turns you on and you want to have sex with him?
Just curious, since that's what you seem to believe.
> >>There's nothing wrong with that
>
> > I suppose not if that's your thing, PJR.
>
> Congratulations on emerging from your habitual narcissism long enough
> to desire sex with men who have long red hair.
You're saying a narrcissist wouldn't have a desire to have sex with
men with long red hair?