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Michael Cook

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Mar 8, 2005, 10:31:59 PM3/8/05
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http://66.93.0.222:8080/test

that is a LIVE broadcast of a video of my watch running,
this is all real time stuff, multicasting off an encoder running on the fly

Will Dockery

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Mar 8, 2005, 10:35:07 PM3/8/05
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Have you contacted Blair at Soho yet?

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Guitars: Henry Conley & Willie Taylor
Drums: Dorundo Jenkins

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Michael Cook

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Mar 8, 2005, 10:43:50 PM3/8/05
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"Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Michael Cook wrote:
>> http://66.93.0.222:8080/test
>>
>> that is a LIVE broadcast of a video of my watch running,
>> this is all real time stuff, multicasting off an encoder running on
> the fly
>
> Have you contacted Blair at Soho yet?
>
did you see the watch?
what time is it?


Will Dockery

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Mar 8, 2005, 10:48:27 PM3/8/05
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I haven't looked.

I need an email for Blair, though, plus 0x0000 is interested in
conversing with you on the SoHo project.

What's up?

Michael Cook

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Mar 8, 2005, 10:50:31 PM3/8/05
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"Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Michael Cook wrote:
>> "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1110339307.7...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > Michael Cook wrote:
>> >> http://66.93.0.222:8080/test
>> >>
>> >> that is a LIVE broadcast of a video of my watch running,
>> >> this is all real time stuff, multicasting off an encoder running
> on
>> > the fly
>> >
>> > Have you contacted Blair at Soho yet?
>> >
>> did you see the watch?
>> what time is it?
>
> I haven't looked.
>
then how do you know it works?
you are putting the cart before the horse
what color is the watch?


Karla

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Mar 8, 2005, 10:51:23 PM3/8/05
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On 8 Mar 2005 19:48:27 -0800, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Michael Cook wrote:
>> "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1110339307.7...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > Michael Cook wrote:
>> >> http://66.93.0.222:8080/test
>> >>
>> >> that is a LIVE broadcast of a video of my watch running,
>> >> this is all real time stuff, multicasting off an encoder running
>on
>> > the fly
>> >
>> > Have you contacted Blair at Soho yet?
>> >
>> did you see the watch?
>> what time is it?
>
>I haven't looked.
>
>I need an email for Blair, though, plus 0x0000 is interested in
>conversing with you on the SoHo project.
>
>What's up?

Perhaps Mr. Cook doesn't want to get involved with your lies & twisting of the
truth.

Perhaps he doesn't want you to misread something that's clear to everyone but
you, like my question to pertial which you labeled a joke.

If the first thing that you can think of is a *joke* when I call pertial on
his arrogant statements about his ancestors taking land from Native Americans
than *you* should apologize. My question was asked of pertial to call him on
his unabashed arrogance.

And while you're apologizing, why don't you do that thing (one of the only
things you seem capable of doing) & cross post apologizing to the many womens
newsgroups for your many misogynist remarks; and to the music newsgroups for
posing as a musician; and to the gay newsgroups for your many homophobic and
sexists remarks; and to the Jewish newsgroups for your re-telling an
unspeakable horror in joke form.

Karla

--
--------------------------------------
Cause and Effect

Once a stick who was tired
of being beaten against everything
lay down on the fagot pile.
"Let me ascend to heaven," it snarled.
Presently wood smoke rose
from the poet's chimney.

Ruth Stone
from "In the Dark"
Used by permission of the publishers.

Will Dockery

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Mar 8, 2005, 10:57:11 PM3/8/05
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Karla wrote:
> On 8 Mar 2005 19:48:27 -0800, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
> >Michael Cook wrote:
> >> >> that is a LIVE broadcast of a video of my watch running,
> >> >> this is all real time stuff, multicasting off an encoder
running
> >on
> >> > the fly
> >> >
> >> > Have you contacted Blair at Soho yet?
> >> >
> >> did you see the watch?
> >> what time is it?
> >
> >I haven't looked.
> >
> >I need an email for Blair, though, plus 0x0000 is interested in
> >conversing with you on the SoHo project.
> >
> >What's up?
>
> Perhaps Mr. Cook doesn't want to get involved with your lies &
twisting of the
> truth.

If you mean my calling you on your racist joke about the Smallpox
Blankets, then he can do as he pleases.

You made the joke, and it's you that will have to deal with it, Karla.

Michael Cook

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Mar 8, 2005, 10:59:40 PM3/8/05
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"Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
hmm, you replied to this post yet ignored my request
i am losing faith in you doc.
and why pick on the ladies?


Will Dockery

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:02:13 PM3/8/05
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Michael Cook wrote:
> "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote
> >> >>
> >> >> that is a LIVE broadcast of a video of my watch running,
> >> >> this is all real time stuff, multicasting off an encoder
running
> > on
> >> > the fly
> >> >
> >> > Have you contacted Blair at Soho yet?
> >> >
> >> did you see the watch?
> >> what time is it?
> >
> > I haven't looked.
> >
> then how do you know it works?
> you are putting the cart before the horse
> what color is the watch?

Okay, then I'll have a look.

Karla

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:03:29 PM3/8/05
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On 8 Mar 2005 19:57:11 -0800, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>Karla wrote:
>> On 8 Mar 2005 19:48:27 -0800, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>>
>> >Michael Cook wrote:
>> >> >> that is a LIVE broadcast of a video of my watch running,
>> >> >> this is all real time stuff, multicasting off an encoder
>running
>> >on
>> >> > the fly
>> >> >
>> >> > Have you contacted Blair at Soho yet?
>> >> >
>> >> did you see the watch?
>> >> what time is it?
>> >
>> >I haven't looked.
>> >
>> >I need an email for Blair, though, plus 0x0000 is interested in
>> >conversing with you on the SoHo project.
>> >
>> >What's up?
>>
>> Perhaps Mr. Cook doesn't want to get involved with your lies &
>twisting of the
>> truth.
>
>If you mean my calling you on your racist joke about the Smallpox
>Blankets, then he can do as he pleases.
>
>You made the joke, and it's you that will have to deal with it, Karla.

Lies and more lies. You read my question to pertial and thought of an old
joke. Why lie about that? I've made it clear that my intention was to call
pertial on his arrogance. You continue to repeat and repeat the lie that I
made a joke. And then you repeated a joke about the holocaust. You are
despicable.

Will Dockery

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:05:24 PM3/8/05
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It was Karla's racist remark about Smallpox Blankets that set this one
off.

But, yeah, I'll hit the link, and let you know what I see.

Renay

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:06:21 PM3/8/05
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"Michael Cook" <coo...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message
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11:04 and 20 secon....21 se..22

shit!

it's 11:04 and some seconds.

Renay

ah hell. now it's 11:05.

Will Dockery

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:08:24 PM3/8/05
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Karla wrote:
> On 8 Mar 2005 19:57:11 -0800, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> >> >Michael Cook wrote:
> >> >> >> that is a LIVE broadcast of a video of my watch running,
> >> >> >> this is all real time stuff, multicasting off an encoder
> >running
> >> >on
> >> >> > the fly
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Have you contacted Blair at Soho yet?
> >> >> >
> >> >> did you see the watch?
> >> >> what time is it?
> >> >
> >> >I haven't looked.
> >> >
> >> >I need an email for Blair, though, plus 0x0000 is interested in
> >> >conversing with you on the SoHo project.
> >> >
> >> >What's up?
> >>
> >> Perhaps Mr. Cook doesn't want to get involved with your lies &
> >twisting of the
> >> truth.
> >
> >If you mean my calling you on your racist joke about the Smallpox
> >Blankets, then he can do as he pleases.
> >
> >You made the joke, and it's you that will have to deal with it,
Karla.
>
> Lies and more lies. You read my question to pertial and thought of
an old
> joke.

Only after *you* repeated the joke, Karla.

Michael Cook

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:11:08 PM3/8/05
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"Renay" <rena...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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heh!

thanks
mdc


Karla

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:12:06 PM3/8/05
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You are *that* stupid. You can't tell the difference between what I wrote and
a joke you heard? Or is everything a joke to Will Dockery? That's why Will
Dockery not only diminishes the horror of what happened to Native Americans
but also references the holocaust as a joke.

Will Dockery

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:19:43 PM3/8/05
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Karla wrote:
> On 8 Mar 2005 20:08:24 -0800, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> >
> >Only after *you* repeated the joke, Karla.
>
> You are *that* stupid. You can't tell the difference between what I
wrote and
> a joke you heard?

We can repost it if you'd like.

It was a one liner about Smallpox Blankets.

Nope, I'm not so stupid to be talked down by a racist harridan such as
you. *You* made the one liner, and By God, unless you've deletyed the
comment, it'll still be in the archives.

Your refusal to admit to your cruel blunder only makes the matter
worse... but you expect all your friends to chime in and drown me out,
right?

The truth is, you made a comment that's offensive. Why not apologise
for *that* part, and we move on from there?

Karla

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:25:56 PM3/8/05
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On 8 Mar 2005 20:19:43 -0800, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>Karla wrote:
>> On 8 Mar 2005 20:08:24 -0800, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> >
>> >Only after *you* repeated the joke, Karla.
>>
>> You are *that* stupid. You can't tell the difference between what I
>wrote and
>> a joke you heard?
>
>We can repost it if you'd like.

I have reposted it and still you remain stupid.

And I'll repost it here:

======================
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 11:40:24 -0800, "Pertial" <per...@eeeeep-not-real.net>
wrote:

>Dear pizza-boi #1,
>
>How did you know my geneology?
>Yes, my ancestors did come to take America from the natives.

Did they pass out blankets too?

Karla
=======================

So get on with apologizing Dockery. Start with apologizing for your inability
to read and comprehend. Move on to apologizing to Native Americans for
thinking that any joke about passing out small pox blankets is funny.
Apologize next for repeating that Holocaust joke and thinking it's funny.
Apologize for the many rude, racist, sexist comments you make and for the
mockery/dockery you make of rock music.

Michael Cook

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:26:58 PM3/8/05
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"Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
at 11:19 you replied to this post YET still have not
replied to mine.
WTF?
where are your priorities


Will Dockery

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:30:23 PM3/8/05
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Karla wrote:
> On 8 Mar 2005 20:19:43 -0800, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> >> >Only after *you* repeated the joke, Karla.
> >>
> >> You are *that* stupid. You can't tell the difference between what
I
> >wrote and
> >> a joke you heard?
> >
> >We can repost it if you'd like.
>
> I have reposted it and still you remain stupid.
>
> And I'll repost it here:
>
> ======================
> On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 11:40:24 -0800, "Pertial"
<per...@eeeeep-not-real.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Dear pizza-boi #1,
> >
> >How did you know my geneology?
> >Yes, my ancestors did come to take America from the natives.
>
> Did they pass out blankets too?
>
> Karla
> =======================
>
> So get on with apologizing Dockery.

Apology? For what?

Barbara's Cat

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:31:58 PM3/8/05
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In article <39791fF...@individual.net>,
Michael Cook <coo...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> said:

Perfect. 11:29.

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Cm~

Michael Cook

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:32:44 PM3/8/05
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"Barbara's Cat" <c...@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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cool, thanks for testing
if i had to count on my "partner" Doc
I'd never find out if it worked or not,
it seems he would rather play games


Will Dockery

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:33:58 PM3/8/05
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My priorities are with art and commerce.

Give me an email address where Blair can communicate with you, also
0x0000 wants an audience with you.

Can we make this happen, after all these weeks, or do we let the little
girls get in the way?

Michael Cook

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"Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Apology? For what?
>

FOR THE LAST TIME
does the fucking stream work or not!


Will Dockery

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:36:10 PM3/8/05
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Come on, Cook, you know I'm here for ya.

I talked the deal up all night last night at SoHo.

Plus performed for two hours.

Barbara's Cat

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:37:49 PM3/8/05
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In article <397c8iF...@individual.net>,
Michael Cook <coo...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> said:

Patience, Mr Cook, can't you see he's busy making a fool of himself.

--
Cm~

Karla

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:39:45 PM3/8/05
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First off, to Mr. Cook for wasting his time. You've had weeks to fix your
browser so that you can see what everyone else has seen. Yet you persist in
wasting his time.

Then, get on with apologizing for your inability to read and comprehend. Move

Will Dockery

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:40:46 PM3/8/05
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No, not here. "Object or name not found.".

Renay

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:41:45 PM3/8/05
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"Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Michael Cook wrote:
>> "Barbara's Cat" <c...@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.1c98464b4...@news-60.giganews.com...
>> > In article <39791fF...@individual.net>,
>> > Michael Cook <coo...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> said:
>> >
>> >> http://66.93.0.222:8080/test
>> >>
>> >> that is a LIVE broadcast of a video of my watch running,
>> >> this is all real time stuff, multicasting off an encoder running
> on the
>> >> fly
>> >
>> > Perfect. 11:29.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Cm~
>> cool, thanks for testing
>> if i had to count on my "partner" Doc
>> I'd never find out if it worked or not,
>> it seems he would rather play games
>
> Come on, Cook, you know I'm here for ya.
>
> I talked the deal up all night last night at SoHo.
>
> Plus performed for two hours.

jesuchristo, you drunken oaf, just go look at the fucken watch.

gawd.

Renay

Barbara's Cat

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:44:15 PM3/8/05
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In article <397cjcF...@individual.net>,
Michael Cook <coo...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> said:

>
> "Barbara's Cat" <c...@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1c98464b4...@news-60.giganews.com...
> > In article <39791fF...@individual.net>,
> > Michael Cook <coo...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> said:
> >
> >> http://66.93.0.222:8080/test
> >>
> >> that is a LIVE broadcast of a video of my watch running,
> >> this is all real time stuff, multicasting off an encoder running on the
> >> fly
> >
> > Perfect. 11:29.
> >
> > --
> > Cm~
> cool, thanks for testing
> if i had to count on my "partner" Doc
> I'd never find out if it worked or not,
> it seems he would rather play games

It's obvious his concerns are not
whether it works for you but only
if it works for him.

Like I said: Aim for Error 410.

--
Cm~

Michael Cook

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:47:14 PM3/8/05
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"Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Michael Cook wrote:
>> "Barbara's Cat" <c...@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.1c98464b4...@news-60.giganews.com...
>> > In article <39791fF...@individual.net>,
>> > Michael Cook <coo...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> said:
>> >
>> >> http://66.93.0.222:8080/test
>> >>
>> >> that is a LIVE broadcast of a video of my watch running,
>> >> this is all real time stuff, multicasting off an encoder running
> on the
>> >> fly
>> >
>> > Perfect. 11:29.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Cm~
>> cool, thanks for testing
>> if i had to count on my "partner" Doc
>> I'd never find out if it worked or not,
>> it seems he would rather play games
>
> Come on, Cook, you know I'm here for ya.
>

lets understand one another
you are here for you, i am here for me
this streaming thing has been a goal of mine for some time,
you were the big test of it, i have acted in good faith
you have have not.

> I talked the deal up all night last night at SoHo.
>

talk dont cut it, load ms encoder, RTFM
pipe me a feed and we are on the air
thats how easy it is.

> Plus performed for two hours.
>

not to mention the the 22 hours here
focus doc, focus!
and leave the women alone, it is just tacky
shows a lack of class

Will Dockery

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:47:31 PM3/8/05
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Not for me, but that it'll work for *everybody*.

It seems to be done all over the internet, why is it so difficult for
Cook?

Michael Cook

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:49:33 PM3/8/05
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"Renay" <rena...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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again
thank you
mdc


Will Dockery

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:49:49 PM3/8/05
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Michael Cook wrote:
> http://66.93.0.222:8080/test
>
> that is a LIVE broadcast of a video of my watch running,
> this is all real time stuff, multicasting off an encoder running on
the fly

Tried it twice, not working on this end.

Michael Cook

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"Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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what?
what on earth are you talking about?


"why is it so difficult for Cook?"

WTF does that mean?

getting pissed
mdc


Will Dockery

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Mar 8, 2005, 11:58:17 PM3/8/05
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In what way have I not, Cook?

> > I talked the deal up all night last night at SoHo.
>
> talk dont cut it, load ms encoder, RTFM
> pipe me a feed and we are on the air
> thats how easy it is.

It needs to be loaded from SoHo, though, right?

> > Plus performed for two hours.
>
> not to mention the the 22 hours here
> focus doc, focus!
> and leave the women alone, it is just tacky
> shows a lack of class

You may have a point there, but what do you suggest, that i kiss their
asses?

That's below *my* class.

So anyway, what need to be done, as it is, the thing's not working. I
have a feeling that maybe you're doing something assbackwards.

I've never seen anything as difficult as this, which seems so simple.

Michael Cook

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Mar 9, 2005, 12:01:36 AM3/9/05
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"Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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if i could only reach through this computer
where is that witch when you need her?
mdc

Will Dockery

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Mar 9, 2005, 12:02:44 AM3/9/05
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Michael Cook wrote:
> "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1110343651.9...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> >

You seem to get pissed really often, sometimes.

I simply mean why is this project so difficult, why should broadcasting
a video be such a complicated feat?

It's *only* a video... why is it always so difficult?

It worked fine yesterday.

Will Dockery

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Mar 9, 2005, 12:05:51 AM3/9/05
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Michael Cook wrote:
> "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1110344297.6...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

Not my fault that its not working. I *want* it to work.

Michael Cook

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Mar 9, 2005, 12:15:47 AM3/9/05
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"Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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it seems, only difficult for you.
"object not found" error is not the fault of the server
you MUST use MS products to view, nothing i can do
about that. it can stream in avi but Microsoft sells those
"licenses" very expensive.
the only other server that can do what ms does
is Darwin, if you think this is complex try getting that to work.
Fix your computer!
mdc


Will Dockery

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Mar 9, 2005, 12:22:25 AM3/9/05
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Michael Cook wrote:
> "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1110344564....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

No. Henry Conley couldn't make it work at all, and neither could Dark
Queen. At least I get sound, which they can't even get.

> "object not found" error is not the fault of the server
> you MUST use MS products to view, nothing i can do
> about that. it can stream in avi but Microsoft sells those
> "licenses" very expensive.
> the only other server that can do what ms does
> is Darwin, if you think this is complex try getting that to work.
> Fix your computer!

I'm going over to see if there's something I can load from MS that'll
help... but I'm not going to buy a new computer, or anything silly like
that.

Barbara's Cat

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Mar 9, 2005, 12:28:44 AM3/9/05
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In article <1110343651.9...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
Will Dockery <opb...@yahoo.com> said:

>
> Barbara's Cat wrote:
> > In article <397cjcF...@individual.net>,
> > Michael Cook <coo...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> said:
> >
> > >
> > > "Barbara's Cat" <c...@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
> > > news:MPG.1c98464b4...@news-60.giganews.com...
> > > > In article <39791fF...@individual.net>,
> > > > Michael Cook <coo...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> said:
> > > >
> > > >> http://66.93.0.222:8080/test
> > > >>
> > > >> that is a LIVE broadcast of a video of my watch running,
> > > >> this is all real time stuff, multicasting off an encoder running
> on the
> > > >> fly
> > > >
> > > > Perfect. 11:29.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Cm~
> > > cool, thanks for testing
> > > if i had to count on my "partner" Doc
> > > I'd never find out if it worked or not,
> > > it seems he would rather play games
> >
> > It's obvious his concerns are not
> > whether it works for you but only
> > if it works for him.
>
> Not for me, but that it'll work for *everybody*.

Yeah, right.

> It seems to be done all over the internet, why is it so difficult for
> Cook?

No one is having a problem but you,
so, how can you say it's Mr Cook?

Oh, wait... I forgot, it's never you,
it's always the other person's fault.

--
Cm~

Renay

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"Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> No. Henry Conley couldn't make it work at all, and neither could Dark
> Queen. At least I get sound, which they can't even get.

now, see, there's the problem. this type of file can't
be opened by a Dark Queen. has to be a Light Queen
or even a Fairly Light Queen. Microsoft did some early
tests with a Bright Queen but they weren't successful at all.

Renay

Will Dockery

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Mar 9, 2005, 12:38:35 AM3/9/05
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Why it won't simply play on a Windows Media player, I don't get.

Other stuff will play, but not Cook's for whatever reason.

Maybe it's some newfangled stuff that the older machines like our won't
play.

Michael Cook

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Mar 9, 2005, 12:40:18 AM3/9/05
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"Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1110345745.9...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
sometimes isp's block multicasting at the router
you might check that out.
an HTTP stream would not work, as your posts of lulu
have shown, not enough bandwidth,
multicasting sends out one stream, like a TV station,
you just have to tune it in

"but I'm not going to buy a new computer"
just learn the protocol RTFM. ten min of reading.
mdc


Fred Hall

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Mar 9, 2005, 12:43:05 AM3/9/05
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At 10:35 mdc time it worked. I'm just not believing a Usenet God
would wear a brown watch.

Will Dockery

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Michael Cook wrote:
> "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1110345745.9...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

Okay, where do I find RTFM to do the reading?

Fred Hall

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Mar 9, 2005, 12:44:24 AM3/9/05
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 23:26:58 -0500, "Michael Cook"
<coo...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote:

>
>"Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>news:1110341983.3...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>at 11:19 you replied to this post YET still have not
>replied to mine.
>WTF?
>where are your priorities
>

This is why Will will always be a pizzaboi. No sense of priorities.
Maybe he thinks you'll do all the work for him.

Fred Hall

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Mar 9, 2005, 12:47:01 AM3/9/05
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Why does it work for all except you, Will?

>
>I've never seen anything as difficult as this, which seems so simple.

If it's so simple, why don't you help Cook out?

Michael Cook

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"Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1110347076....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/compare/webservvstreamserv.aspx


Will Dockery

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No, Cook can't do *all* the work... I'm the only one that can write and
perform my material.

Fred Hall

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Mar 9, 2005, 12:50:42 AM3/9/05
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I'm running a 233 mhz pentium, Windoze '98 SE, 32 mb Ram, and it works
for me.

Are you using an Atari box by chance?

Will Dockery

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Mar 9, 2005, 12:52:30 AM3/9/05
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Michael Cook wrote:
> "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1110347076....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

Going there now.

Michael Cook

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Mar 9, 2005, 12:54:01 AM3/9/05
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"Fred Hall" <fkh...@databasix.com> wrote in message
news:d0m2d4$80d$1...@pizzaboy.databasix.com...
thanks for testing.

"I'm just not believing a Usenet God
> would wear a brown watch."

the Rolex is in the shop
mdc


Fred Hall

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Mar 9, 2005, 12:53:28 AM3/9/05
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On 8 Mar 2005 21:50:43 -0800, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>Fred Hall wrote:
>> On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 23:26:58 -0500, "Michael Cook"
>> <coo...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >news:1110341983.3...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> >>
>> >at 11:19 you replied to this post YET still have not
>> >replied to mine.
>> >WTF?
>> >where are your priorities
>> >
>> This is why Will will always be a pizzaboi. No sense of priorities.
>> Maybe he thinks you'll do all the work for him.
>
>No, Cook can't do *all* the work... I'm the only one that can write and
>perform my material.

Then why won't you check out his watch? Worked for me, P233, 32 mb
RAM, dial-up. No problem for me. Are you trying to jack mdc around?

Michael Cook

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Mar 9, 2005, 12:56:32 AM3/9/05
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"Fred Hall" <fkh...@databasix.com> wrote in message
news:d0m30i$80d$5...@m3t00.databasix.com...
hmm...
Doc is trolling me, could it be?
mdc


Fred Hall

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On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 00:54:01 -0500, "Michael Cook"
<coo...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote:

>
>"Fred Hall" <fkh...@databasix.com> wrote in message
>news:d0m2d4$80d$1...@pizzaboy.databasix.com...
>> On 8 Mar 2005 20:40:46 -0800, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Michael Cook wrote:
>>>> "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1110342623.3...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Apology? For what?
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> FOR THE LAST TIME
>>>> does the fucking stream work or not!
>>>
>>>No, not here. "Object or name not found.".
>>
>> At 10:35 mdc time it worked. I'm just not believing a Usenet God
>> would wear a brown watch.
>>
>thanks for testing.

Not a problem. I became interested when Doc began complaining the
link didn't work. Believe me, if it works on my antiquated home
system, it should work with Will's.

>
>"I'm just not believing a Usenet God
>> would wear a brown watch."
>
>the Rolex is in the shop

I knew there had to be a good reason. ;-)

> mdc
>

Dave

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Mar 9, 2005, 1:01:07 AM3/9/05
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Michael Cook wrote:
>
> http://66.93.0.222:8080/test
>

> that is a LIVE broadcast of a video of my watch running,
> this is all real time stuff, multicasting off an encoder running on the fly

Works good, like a Beta test should.

Fred Hall

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Mar 9, 2005, 12:59:44 AM3/9/05
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On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 00:56:32 -0500, "Michael Cook"
<coo...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote:

>
>"Fred Hall" <fkh...@databasix.com> wrote in message
>news:d0m30i$80d$5...@m3t00.databasix.com...
>> On 8 Mar 2005 21:50:43 -0800, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Fred Hall wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 23:26:58 -0500, "Michael Cook"
>>>> <coo...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >"Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> >news:1110341983.3...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>>> >>
>>>> >at 11:19 you replied to this post YET still have not
>>>> >replied to mine.
>>>> >WTF?
>>>> >where are your priorities
>>>> >
>>>> This is why Will will always be a pizzaboi. No sense of priorities.
>>>> Maybe he thinks you'll do all the work for him.
>>>
>>>No, Cook can't do *all* the work... I'm the only one that can write and
>>>perform my material.
>>
>> Then why won't you check out his watch? Worked for me, P233, 32 mb
>> RAM, dial-up. No problem for me. Are you trying to jack mdc around?
>>
>hmm...
>Doc is trolling me, could it be?

Wal...Seems kinda strange other folks haven't had a problem, but Will
does. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

> mdc
>

Fred Hall

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Mar 9, 2005, 1:01:23 AM3/9/05
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Yet Will and his band-mates can't get it to work. Is Will trying to
troll mdc?

Will Dockery

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Is there a chance the Zone Alarm might be blocking it?

I'm reading the page describing the stream nut haven't found a way to
improve, yet.

Michael Cook

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Mar 9, 2005, 1:13:48 AM3/9/05
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"Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1110347550.1...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

another:

http://www.rtsp.org/2001/faq.html#interop


Fred Hall

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Mar 9, 2005, 1:16:52 AM3/9/05
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On 8 Mar 2005 22:10:52 -0800, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>Fred Hall wrote:
>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 00:01:07 -0600, Dave <no...@noplace.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >Michael Cook wrote:
>> >>
>> >> http://66.93.0.222:8080/test
>> >>
>> >> that is a LIVE broadcast of a video of my watch running,
>> >> this is all real time stuff, multicasting off an encoder running
>on the fly
>> >
>> >Works good, like a Beta test should.
>>
>> Yet Will and his band-mates can't get it to work. Is Will trying to
>> troll mdc?
>
>Is there a chance the Zone Alarm might be blocking it?

Could be, but I doubt it. One sure way, disable the sucker. Are you
fearful mdc might send you something nasty?

>
>I'm reading the page describing the stream nut haven't found a way to
>improve, yet.

Dunno, man. Works good on my antique machine.

Renay

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Mar 9, 2005, 1:32:34 AM3/9/05
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"Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1110346715.3...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

maybe you're such a dickhead that the whole universe hates you.

Renay

Will Dockery

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Mar 9, 2005, 4:50:45 AM3/9/05
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Okay, I'm at the "implimications" section,which of these would be best?

clic...@gmail.com

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Mar 9, 2005, 5:02:08 AM3/9/05
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Renay - give Mr Cook a copy of the Red Rock tape to braodcast - then I
could finally get to see it :-)

Working on the photos - got to resize them but the PC had a nervous
breakdown this weekend and is still recovering!

See ya!

Renay wrote:
> "Michael Cook" <coo...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message
> news:39791fF...@individual.net...


> > http://66.93.0.222:8080/test
> >
> > that is a LIVE broadcast of a video of my watch running,
> > this is all real time stuff, multicasting off an encoder running on
the
> > fly
>
>

> 11:04 and 20 secon....21 se..22
>
> shit!
>
> it's 11:04 and some seconds.
>
> Renay
>
> ah hell. now it's 11:05.

Will Dockery

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Mar 9, 2005, 5:42:55 AM3/9/05
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Michael Cook wrote:
> >> http://66.93.0.222:8080/test
> >>
> >> that is a LIVE broadcast of a video of my watch running,
> >> this is all real time stuff, multicasting off an encoder running
on the
> >> fly
> >
> cool, thanks for testing
> if i had to count on my "partner" Doc
> I'd never find out if it worked or not,
> it seems he would rather play games

Okay, I'm now at http://www.rtsp.org/2001/implementations.html, which
of these would work best for me... and apparently for the others out
there having similar problems?

Vocals: Will Dockery
Guitars: Henry Conley & Willie Taylor
Drums: Dorundo Jenkins

Digital video:
http://www.ypsiarbor.com/soho.htm
[needs http://www.rtsp.org/2001/implementations.html to play]

Will Dockery

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Mar 9, 2005, 6:53:39 AM3/9/05
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No, but I am on hold until Cook gives some advice on which of the
programs at
http://www.rtsp.org/2001/implementations.html

would be the best to go with. Quicktime works well for me, here,
usually, so I lean to that, if that one seems okay.

Renay

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<clic...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1110362528....@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

>
> Renay - give Mr Cook a copy of the Red Rock tape to braodcast - then I
> could finally get to see it :-)
>
> Working on the photos - got to resize them but the PC had a nervous
> breakdown this weekend and is still recovering!
>
> See ya!

email me an address and I'll copy you one for Father's Day. ;)

Renay

j r sherman

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Mar 9, 2005, 11:04:29 AM3/9/05
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In article <1110340631.3...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Will Dockery
says...
>
>
>Karla wrote:
>> On 8 Mar 2005 19:48:27 -0800, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:

>>
>> >Michael Cook wrote:
>> >> >> that is a LIVE broadcast of a video of my watch running,
>> >> >> this is all real time stuff, multicasting off an encoder
>running
>> >on
>> >> > the fly
>> >> >
>> >> > Have you contacted Blair at Soho yet?
>> >> >
>> >> did you see the watch?
>> >> what time is it?
>> >
>> >I haven't looked.
>> >
>> >I need an email for Blair, though, plus 0x0000 is interested in
>> >conversing with you on the SoHo project.
>> >
>> >What's up?
>>
>> Perhaps Mr. Cook doesn't want to get involved with your lies &
>twisting of the
>> truth.
>
>If you mean my calling you on your racist joke about the Smallpox
>Blankets, then he can do as he pleases.
>
>You made the joke, and it's you that will have to deal with it, Karla.

no, dockery, you said she was a racist.

so either prove that Ms. Karla is a racist, or shut your lying an insane mouth.
it's a really easy process.


--
------------------------------------------------------------------
"I saw a werewolf drinkin' a pina colada at Trader Vic's
And his hair was perfect."
Warren Zevon
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j r sherman

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Mar 9, 2005, 11:07:47 AM3/9/05
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In article <1110341124....@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Will Dockery
says...

>
>
>Michael Cook wrote:
>> "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1110340631.3...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> hmm, you replied to this post yet ignored my request
>> i am losing faith in you doc.
>> and why pick on the ladies?
>
>It was Karla's racist remark about Smallpox Blankets that set this one
>off.

Ms. Karla made NO racist remark, dockery. none what so ever. you are saying this
because Ms. Karla has proven you to be a lying psycho and a inept moron.

either produce the evidence that Ms. Karla is a racist (which you can't), or
shut your lying and insane mouth.

Will Dockery

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Mar 9, 2005, 11:38:15 AM3/9/05
to
j r sherman wrote:
> >> "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1110340631.3...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >It was Karla's racist remark about Smallpox Blankets that set this
one
> >off.
>
> Ms. Karla made NO racist remark, dockery. none what so ever.

Karla made a statement that she did not explain at the time.

That statement could easily be seen as a racist statement, even a
racist joke.

So, as usual, you're wrong again JRS.

j r sherman

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Mar 9, 2005, 12:12:56 PM3/9/05
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In article <1110386295.1...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, Will Dockery
says...

>
>j r sherman wrote:
>> >> "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1110340631.3...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >
>> >It was Karla's racist remark about Smallpox Blankets that set this
>one
>> >off.
>>
>> Ms. Karla made NO racist remark, dockery. none what so ever.
>
>Karla made a statement that she did not explain at the time.

why did she have to? i understood perfectly what she was saying. anyone with
more than three brains cells(this counts you out) would have no problem what so
ever understanding what she posted. and in NO WAY can the comment she made be
considered racist. YOU are calling it racist because you are too stupid to
defend yourself when arguing with Ms. Karla, so you resort to calling her a
racist.

>That statement could easily be seen as a racist statement, even a
>racist joke.

the only person who is seeing this as a racist statement is YOU, moron. and WHY?
because you have been shown up by Ms. Karla to have all the rhetoric skills of a
formica table top. so naturally, when a moron, such as yourself, is losing an
argument, call someone a racist, and hope the subject will be changed.

you are a liar, dockery. it's pretty clear cut.


>So, as usual, you're wrong again JRS.
>
>--
>"Mirror Twins":
>http://www.lulu.com/items/29000/29085/preview/Will_Dockery_-_03_-_Track__3.mp3
>
>Vocals: Will Dockery
>Guitars: Henry Conley & Willie Taylor
>Drums: Dorundo Jenkins
>
>Digital video:
>http://www.ypsiarbor.com/soho.htm
>

Will Dockery

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Mar 9, 2005, 12:39:47 PM3/9/05
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j r sherman wrote:
> In article <1110386295.1...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
Will Dockery
> says...
> >
> >> >It was Karla's racist remark about Smallpox Blankets that set
this
> >one
> >> >off.
> >>
> >> Ms. Karla made NO racist remark, dockery. none what so ever.
> >
> >Karla made a statement that she did not explain at the time.
>
> why did she have to? i understood perfectly what she was saying.

Well, others didn't.

As the post stands in the archives, it could *still* be taken as a
racist comment, esp. in the context of racist comments by the other
poets.

She's explained herself, so why do you feel the need to charge in with
another whining crusade in her defense? You already look like a big
enough assclown from the first couple of times you've tried that this
month.

Michael Cook

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Mar 9, 2005, 12:48:49 PM3/9/05
to
beta test is over
i need the watch

thanks to all who responded
mdc


Will Dockery

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Mar 9, 2005, 12:56:14 PM3/9/05
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Cook, I was informed by a local computer savvy pal that since I was
WMP, Quicktime *and* Real Player already in my machine, that viewing
your stream should be no problem.

I wonder if the isp firewall or my own Zone Alarm is keeping the
complete works out, which is what he suggested could be the problem.

Do you see this as the possible problem?

Michael Cook

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Mar 9, 2005, 1:19:33 PM3/9/05
to

"Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1110390974....@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

>
> Michael Cook wrote:
>> beta test is over
>> i need the watch
>>
>> thanks to all who responded
>> mdc
>
> Cook, I was informed by a local computer savvy pal that since I was
> WMP, Quicktime *and* Real Player already in my machine, that viewing
> your stream should be no problem.
>
> I wonder if the isp firewall or my own Zone Alarm is keeping the
> complete works out, which is what he suggested could be the problem.
>
> Do you see this as the possible problem?
>
no, well only if your isp blocks multicasting
which browser are you using

Will Dockery

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Mar 9, 2005, 1:41:12 PM3/9/05
to

Yeah, blocking of multicating was mentioned. Perhaps I should call and
have a word with my isp? That sounds like a worthwhile idea, anyhow.

j r sherman

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Mar 9, 2005, 1:26:23 PM3/9/05
to
In article <1110389987.4...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, Will Dockery
says...

>
>
>j r sherman wrote:
>> In article <1110386295.1...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
>Will Dockery
>> says...
>> >
>> >> >It was Karla's racist remark about Smallpox Blankets that set
>this
>> >one
>> >> >off.
>> >>
>> >> Ms. Karla made NO racist remark, dockery. none what so ever.
>> >
>> >Karla made a statement that she did not explain at the time.
>>
>> why did she have to? i understood perfectly what she was saying.
>
>Well, others didn't.

no, liar dockery. everyone, even you, understand exactly what she was saying.
you just saw this as a chance to call Ms. Karla a name because you have
absolutely no skills in debate, and she's been kicking your lying ass for almost
a month now reminding you of that fact.

so this indeed makes you a liar.

>As the post stands in the archives, it could *still* be taken as a
>racist comment, esp. in the context of racist comments by the other
>poets.

liar. no one else has made any racists statements. if they had, you would have
posted those statements here.

this also makes you a liar.

>She's explained herself, so why do you feel the need to charge in with
>another whining crusade in her defense?

because you are still lying. you knew what the meant when she posted her
comments. this makes you a liar, and it's so obvious.

Will Dockery

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Mar 9, 2005, 1:55:02 PM3/9/05
to

j r sherman wrote:
> In article <1110389987.4...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
Will Dockery
> says...
> >> >
> >> >> >It was Karla's racist remark about Smallpox Blankets that set
> >this
> >> >one
> >> >> >off.
> >> >>
> >> >> Ms. Karla made NO racist remark, dockery. none what so ever.
> >> >
> >> >Karla made a statement that she did not explain at the time.
> >>
> >> why did she have to? i understood perfectly what she was saying.
> >
> >Well, others didn't.
>
> no, liar dockery. *JRS lying whine snipped*

You're a liar by calling me one, JRS. The facts are clear.

j r sherman

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Mar 9, 2005, 2:29:00 PM3/9/05
to
In article <1110394502....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, Will Dockery
says...

>
>
>j r sherman wrote:
>> In article <1110389987.4...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
>Will Dockery
>> says...
>> >> >
>> >> >> >It was Karla's racist remark about Smallpox Blankets that set
>> >this
>> >> >one
>> >> >> >off.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ms. Karla made NO racist remark, dockery. none what so ever.
>> >> >
>> >> >Karla made a statement that she did not explain at the time.
>> >>
>> >> why did she have to? i understood perfectly what she was saying.
>> >
>> >Well, others didn't.
>>
>> no, liar dockery. *JRS lying whine snipped*
>
>You're a liar by calling me one, JRS. The facts are clear.

indeed they are. you called Ms. Karla a racist because you could not win an
argument with her on any subject you attempted to debate with her. so you
resorted to race baiting because you do not possess the intellectual
capabilities to debate anyone. no one said anything racist, dockery, you are
completely lying about that.

Will Dockery

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Mar 9, 2005, 3:01:39 PM3/9/05
to

j r sherman wrote:
> In article <1110394502....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
Will Dockery
> says...
> >
> >> >> >> >It was Karla's racist remark about Smallpox Blankets that
set
> >> >this
> >> >> >one
> >> >> >> >off.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Ms. Karla made NO racist remark, dockery. none what so ever.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Karla made a statement that she did not explain at the time.
> >> >>
> >> >> why did she have to? i understood perfectly what she was
saying.
> >> >
> >> >Well, others didn't.
> >>
> >> no, liar dockery. *JRS lying whine snipped*
> >
> >You're a liar by calling me one, JRS. The facts are clear.
>
> indeed they are. you called Ms. Karla a racist because you could not
win an
> argument with her on any subject you attempted to debate with her. so
you
> resorted to race baiting

Once again, *wrong*, JRS.

Karla wrote the comment, without explanation. In context, and without
any explanation, it *does* look like an anti-NDN racist comment.

In fact, it's an old joke, one I heard from a punk bassist back in
1983, when the comment/joke almost got him tossed out of a second floor
window.

Klara's explained herself, I accepted the explanation, and if you had
any sense, you'd back off from this. Although she didn't speak up and
explain that she didn't intend it as a racial insult, it took calling
it out in the open for her to do *anything*.

I'm ready to let this one rest, and move on to the next fight, or we
can continue on and on, you whine and I reply, as you're showing signs
of gearing up for doing already.

We can go either way with this, but being armed with the truth, as
usual... it's no problem.

She wrote the comment, I responded to it. For you to twist anything
else from it will be moving away from the truth. but we already know
that truth, ethics, and fairness are not your strongest talents.

So, carry on, old son. Or not.

Rapscallion

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On 9 Mar 2005 09:56:14 -0800, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>Michael Cook wrote:
>> beta test is over
>> i need the watch
>>
>> thanks to all who responded
>> mdc
>
>Cook, I was informed by a local computer savvy pal that since I was
>WMP, Quicktime *and* Real Player already in my machine, that viewing
>your stream should be no problem.
>
>I wonder if the isp firewall or my own Zone Alarm is keeping the
>complete works out, which is what he suggested could be the problem.
>
>Do you see this as the possible problem?

Maybe you should ask your ISP if they have a Streaming Highband
Internet Truncating filter in place. That would definitely explain why
you weren't able to see the video of your performance...


Will Dockery

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Mar 9, 2005, 3:42:12 PM3/9/05
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Thanks for the heads up on exactly what to say to the lady at the isp
when I finally get off hold.

I suppose they can lift the "filter" for me, or are we all stuck?
Henry, Queenie, even SoHo all use the same isp...

j r sherman

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Mar 9, 2005, 3:33:42 PM3/9/05
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In article <1110398499....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, Will Dockery
says...
>

>> >You're a liar by calling me one, JRS. The facts are clear.
>>
>> indeed they are. you called Ms. Karla a racist because you could not
>win an
>> argument with her on any subject you attempted to debate with her. so
>you
>> resorted to race baiting
>
>Once again, *wrong*, JRS.

being that you're a liar, and have been caught in your lie, i am not surprised
by your reponse.

>Karla wrote the comment, without explanation. In context, and without
>any explanation, it *does* look like an anti-NDN racist comment.

you are a liar, dockery. everyone understood perfectly what she was trying to
say. perfectly. there wasn't anything out of context about it. someone implied
with a certain pride about having ancestors who had assisted in killing Native
Americans. Karla, using intelligence and wit, with sarcastic irony, referred to
the the tragic action of US Indian agents selling blankets with smallpox to
Native Americans in the hopes of killing them off.

you are lying when you say you didn't understand the implication of her comment.
you knew exactly what she was saying. but you saw her comment as a chance to try
an injure a person who has beaten you badly in all the debates you've had with
her. that was your reason for calling her a racist. not because you are an
offended Native American, but because you wanted to get back at Ms. Karla for
showing you up in EVERY debate you've had with her.

therefore, you are a liar.

>In fact, it's an old joke, one I heard from a punk bassist back in
>1983, when the comment/joke almost got him tossed out of a second floor
>window.

this comment is meaningless to this discussion. you are a liar. you attempted to
paint Ms. Karla as a racist because she has shown you up to be a dope, many
times, and that is all.

>Klara's explained herself, I accepted the explanation, and if you had
>any sense, you'd back off from this.

but you're a liar, dockery. a bald-faced liar. people need to know this about
you.

>Although she didn't speak up and
>explain that she didn't intend it as a racial insult, it took calling
>it out in the open for her to do *anything*.

you are a liar. you used the word of racism in an attempt tp deflect the truth
from the fact that Ms. Karla has defeated you a number of times in debates that
you've had with her on line.

no one, and i mean no one considered her comment a racist one. you did, and not
because you actually found it a racist comment, but because you wanted to try
and hurt her because she has shown you up to be a dope.

>I'm ready to let this one rest, and move on to the next fight, or we
>can continue on and on, you whine and I reply, as you're showing signs
>of gearing up for doing already.

you are a liar, dockery. it's as clear as black and white.

>We can go either way with this, but being armed with the truth, as
>usual... it's no problem.
>
>She wrote the comment, I responded to it. For you to twist anything
>else from it will be moving away from the truth. but we already know
>that truth, ethics, and fairness are not your strongest talents.
>
>So, carry on, old son. Or not.
>
>--
>"Mirror Twins":
>http://www.lulu.com/items/29000/29085/preview/Will_Dockery_-_03_-_Track__3.mp3
>
>Vocals: Will Dockery
>Guitars: Henry Conley & Willie Taylor
>Drums: Dorundo Jenkins
>
>Digital video:
>http://www.ypsiarbor.com/soho.htm
>

Rapscallion

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Mar 9, 2005, 4:11:48 PM3/9/05
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Karla's remark was quite obviously a rebuke. Anybody with an ounce of
sense and comprehension would read it that way. She has nothing to
apologise about. You say you're not stupid so one can only assume
you're trying to twist her words to suit your own agenda.

Will Dockery

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Mar 9, 2005, 4:12:52 PM3/9/05
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j r sherman wrote:
> In article <1110398499....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
Will Dockery
> says...
>
> >> >You're a liar by calling me one, JRS. The facts are clear.
> >>
> >> indeed they are. you called Ms. Karla a racist because you could
not
> >win an
> >> argument with her on any subject you attempted to debate with her.
so
> >you
> >> resorted to race baiting
> >
> >Once again, *wrong*, JRS.
>
> being that you're a liar, and have been caught in your lie, i am not
surprised
> by your reponse.

You shouldn't be surprised, since you keep repeating the bullshit, and
I keep responding with the truth.

> >Karla wrote the comment, without explanation. In context, and
without
> >any explanation, it *does* look like an anti-NDN racist comment.
>
> you are a liar, dockery.

No, *you* lie that I lie.

> someone implied
> with a certain pride about having ancestors who had assisted in
killing Native
> Americans. Karla, using intelligence and wit, with sarcastic irony,
referred to
> the the tragic action of US Indian agents selling blankets with
smallpox to
> Native Americans in the hopes of killing them off.

*If* she had followed it up a little better, rather than just letting
it hang, then we wouldn't be here, *still* making sense of that nasty
little moment.

The person who's really the racist fool claims to be a poet, but I
don't remember the person. Name begins with a P... do you or any of the
old timers know this so-called poet?

> you are lying when you say you didn't understand the implication of
her comment.
> you knew exactly what she was saying.

I understand, now that she explained it, but at the time her comment
stood, and *still* stands in the archives as quite cryptic. It could go
either way to a casual browser, still... since the explanations are
here, much further down the thread.

> but you saw her comment as a chance to try
> an injure a person who has beaten you badly

I've *never* been beaten. Not by karla, not by you. Your declaration of
victory is premature, young man.

> therefore, you are a liar.

Nope. I write the truth, as Boss Ross and Colin Ward are my witnesses.

> >In fact, it's an old joke, one I heard from a punk bassist back in
> >1983, when the comment/joke almost got him tossed out of a second
floor
> >window.
>
> this comment is meaningless to this discussion.

No, it's not. Karla's one line comment echoed that day of many years
ago *exactly*. And without explanation comes of *exactly* the same.

> >Klara's explained herself, I accepted the explanation, and if you
had
> >any sense, you'd back off from this.
>
> but you're a liar, dockery. a bald-faced liar. people need to know
this about
> you.

Well, have your little "crusade", you whining little fuckwit.

> >Although she didn't speak up and
> >explain that she didn't intend it as a racial insult, it took
calling
> >it out in the open for her to do *anything*.

> you are a liar, dockery. it's as clear as black and white.

*General Sherman's march of Lies! Lies! Lies! and other whining snipped
for redun-duncy*

> >We can go either way with this, but being armed with the truth, as
> >usual... it's no problem.
> >
> >She wrote the comment, I responded to it. For you to twist anything
> >else from it will be moving away from the truth. but we already know
> >that truth, ethics, and fairness are not your strongest talents.
> >
> >So, carry on, old son. Or not.

I agree.

j r sherman

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Mar 9, 2005, 4:16:16 PM3/9/05
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In article <llmu215h68ui5b123...@4ax.com>, Rapscallion says...

maybe his ISP has an obscenity policy?

Will Dockery

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Mar 9, 2005, 5:33:15 PM3/9/05
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j r sherman wrote:
> In article <llmu215h68ui5b123...@4ax.com>, Rapscallion
says...
> >
> >On 9 Mar 2005 09:56:14 -0800, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Michael Cook wrote:
> >>> beta test is over
> >>> i need the watch
> >>>
> >>> thanks to all who responded
> >>> mdc
> >>
> >>Cook, I was informed by a local computer savvy pal that since I was
> >>WMP, Quicktime *and* Real Player already in my machine, that
viewing
> >>your stream should be no problem.
> >>
> >>I wonder if the isp firewall or my own Zone Alarm is keeping the
> >>complete works out, which is what he suggested could be the
problem.
> >>
> >>Do you see this as the possible problem?
> >
> >Maybe you should ask your ISP if they have a Streaming Highband
> >Internet Truncating filter in place. That would definitely explain
why
> >you weren't able to see the video of your performance...
>
> maybe his ISP has an obscenity policy?

Maybe "obscene" since the visual is missing, but it can still be
obheard.

Barbara's Cat

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Mar 9, 2005, 8:40:45 PM3/9/05
to
In article <qjpu21p7fg7mglf6j...@4ax.com>,
Rapscallion <clic...@gmail.com> said:

>
> Karla's remark was quite obviously a rebuke. Anybody with an ounce of
> sense and comprehension would read it that way. She has nothing to
> apologise about. You say you're not stupid so one can only assume
> you're trying to twist her words to suit your own agenda.

You know that. I know that. J R knows that. A whole list of newsgroups
knows that. Dockery is just doing his hurt-child-throwing-synthetic-mud
routine again because Karla busted his so fragile balls... again.

> >Once again, *wrong*, JRS.
> >
> >Karla wrote the comment, without explanation. In context, and without
> >any explanation, it *does* look like an anti-NDN racist comment.
> >
> >In fact, it's an old joke, one I heard from a punk bassist back in
> >1983, when the comment/joke almost got him tossed out of a second floor
> >window.
> >
> >Klara's explained herself, I accepted the explanation, and if you had
> >any sense, you'd back off from this. Although she didn't speak up and
> >explain that she didn't intend it as a racial insult, it took calling
> >it out in the open for her to do *anything*.
> >
> >I'm ready to let this one rest, and move on to the next fight, or we
> >can continue on and on, you whine and I reply, as you're showing signs
> >of gearing up for doing already.
> >
> >We can go either way with this, but being armed with the truth, as
> >usual... it's no problem.
> >
> >She wrote the comment, I responded to it. For you to twist anything
> >else from it will be moving away from the truth. but we already know
> >that truth, ethics, and fairness are not your strongest talents.
> >
> >So, carry on, old son. Or not.
>
>

--
Cm~

Barbara's Cat

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Mar 9, 2005, 8:41:06 PM3/9/05
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In article <1110402772.8...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
Will Dockery <opb...@yahoo.com> said:

>
> j r sherman wrote:
> > In article <1110398499....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
> Will Dockery
> > says...
> >
> > >> >You're a liar by calling me one, JRS. The facts are clear.
> > >>
> > >> indeed they are. you called Ms. Karla a racist because you could
> not
> > >win an
> > >> argument with her on any subject you attempted to debate with her.
> so
> > >you
> > >> resorted to race baiting
> > >
> > >Once again, *wrong*, JRS.
> >
> > being that you're a liar, and have been caught in your lie, i am not
> surprised
> > by your reponse.
>
> You shouldn't be surprised, since you keep repeating the bullshit, and
> I keep responding with the truth.

Where? When? Please, Dockery, tell me where I can find you
doing this because I missed it and I just have to see this
once in a lifetime event.

--
Cm~

Will Dockery

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Mar 9, 2005, 8:46:04 PM3/9/05
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Peter J Ross

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Mar 9, 2005, 9:54:09 PM3/9/05
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On Wednesday 09 March, Will Dockery wrote in rec.arts.poems:

> Rapscallion wrote:
>> On 9 Mar 2005 09:56:14 -0800, "Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>
>> >Michael Cook wrote:
>> >> beta test is over i need the watch
>> >>
>> >> thanks to all who responded mdc
>> >
>> >Cook, I was informed by a local computer savvy pal that since I
>> >was WMP, Quicktime *and* Real Player already in my machine, that
>> >viewing your stream should be no problem.
>> >
>> >I wonder if the isp firewall or my own Zone Alarm is keeping the
>> >complete works out, which is what he suggested could be the
>> >problem.
>> >
>> >Do you see this as the possible problem?
>>
>> Maybe you should ask your ISP if they have a Streaming Highband
>> Internet Truncating filter in place. That would definitely explain
>> why you weren't able to see the video of your performance...

> Thanks for the heads up on exactly what to say to the lady at the isp
> when I finally get off hold.

> I suppose they can lift the "filter" for me, or are we all stuck?
> Henry, Queenie, even SoHo all use the same isp...

Can *anybody* really be this stupid?

PJR :-)
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Peter J Ross

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Mar 9, 2005, 9:51:35 PM3/9/05
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On Wednesday 09 March, Rapscallion wrote in rec.arts.poems:

I think there might also be a problem with the PEBKAC codecs. It's
worth mentioning to technical support. Just make sure you speak to the
chap who deals with I-D-ten-T problems, Will.

PJ "V'z orggvat gur zbeba vf oybpxvat cbeg 8080, zlfrys" R :-)

Will Dockery

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Mar 9, 2005, 10:05:50 PM3/9/05
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> PJ "I'm betting the moron is blocking port 8080, myself" R :-)

V'yy ybbx vagb gur 8080 guvat, Obff

Will Dockery

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Renay

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"Will Dockery" <opb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1110423994.4...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

oh. my. gawd.

Renay

I love you, Peter J. Ross! we all love you!


Will Dockery

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Will Dockery wrote:
> > PJ "I'm betting the moron is blocking port 8080, myself" R :-)
>
> V'yy ybbx vagb gur 8080 guvat, Obff

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Will Dockery

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Mar 9, 2005, 11:13:04 PM3/9/05
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Colin Ward wrote:

> On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 02:54:09 +0000, Peter J Ross
> <gad...@NOSPAMmeow.org> wrote:
>
> >Can *anybody* really be this stupid?
>
> Can the following possibly make a *good* combination:
>
> 1. the "intelligence" of a Tommygummer;
> 2. the "integrity" of an UpChuck;
> 3. the "sanity" of a Palmjob;
> 4. the "talent" of a Bill Orr;
> 5. the "modesty" of a Sharon McE***y;
> 6. the "maturity" of a Marg; and,
> 7. the "consistency" of a Texas Maxipad?

You left out:

8. As anal as Colon Ward?

Short answer..: *You* made the list.

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