Re: Hydrothermal Systems, Stromatolites and Bacterial Concretions! Nasa's Big Lie!

[Alacrity Stone]

"Jonathan" <j...@home.com> wrote in message news:4172a...@127.0.0.1...
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> Hydrothermal Systems, Stromatolites and Bacterial Concretions!
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> It's been over 6 months since the following statement was
> issued by Nasa. On that day the science releases from Nasa
> concerning the Opportunity Rover at Meridiani ceased completely.
> Nasa has never stated an embargo is in force or when, if ever, it
> will end.
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> "This is a profound discovery. It has profound implications for
astrobiology,"
> said Edward Weiler, NASA chief of space science, at a Washington, D.C.,
> news conference. "If you have any interest in searching for fossils on
> Mars, this is the first place you'd want to go."
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/03/24/MARS.TMP&type=science
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> I believe Meridiani shows recent evidence of various forms
> of bacterial life shaping a region of hundreds of square
> miles. The dark soil, finely laminated layered outcrops, and
> massive quantities of spheres all are consistent with systems fed
> by warm underground water. Such hydrothermal systems
> are known to be among the most biologically active
> environments of all. .
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> Nasa has the motto 'follow the water'. I believe that it
> should be "follow the dark soil', as that is where
> underground water and hot-springs should be found.
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> Why has Nasa repeatedly failed to mention that the hematite
> at Meridiani was formed in hot water?
> Why does Nasa claim that Endurance is an impact crater?
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> Why has Nasa been silent for 6 months?
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> NASA Technical Memorandum
> WORKSHOP ON THE SOCIETAL IMPLICATIONS
> OF ASTROBIOLOGY
> http://astrobiology.arc.nasa.gov/workshops/societal/societal_report.pdf
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> "One of the reasons for this is a sense of urgency: confirmation of
> extraterrestrial life could occur at any time and in any of a number of
ways.
> When it occurs, we may have only limited control over the situation."
> page 36
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> "The discovery may stimulate a worldwide resurgence in religious
activity."
> page 29
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> " .... it is extremely important for us to be highly knowledgeable
> about the likely reactions of different constituencies (the press, various
> religious groups, political leaders, and the general public).
> We would be foolish and negligent if we did not study such reactions
> well ahead of time and make state-of-the art preparations for major
> discoveries."
> page 6
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> Morphological Biosignatures and the Search for Life on Mars
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> "Determining the location of potential paleobiological repositories
> on Mars requires an understanding of the martian surface in
> terms of elemental abundances and mineralogy. This variety
> of hematite on Earth forms only in the presence of large amounts of
> water, and typically at elevated (hydrothermal) temperatures
> (Christensen et al., 2000)."
> http://geology.asu.edu/jfarmer/pubs/pdfs/morpho.pdf
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> Orbital views of the Dark Soil at Meridiani
> http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/01/24/
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> Dark Soil elsewhere on Mars
> http://marsprogram.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/canyons/PIA02398.html
> http://marsprogram.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/sanddunes/PIA01695.html
> http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/5_27_98_agu_release/7707rel.gif
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> Upper right corner, recent outcrop water flow at Endurance crater?
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http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/098/1P136889417EFF2002P2448L7M1.JPG
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> The Stromatolites of Stella Maris, Bahamas
> http://www.theflyingcircus.com/stella_maris.html
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> Endurance Crater
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http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/n/119/1N138744629EFF2809P1987R0M1.JPG
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http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/n/111/1N138039382EFF2600P1986R0M1.HTML
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> Endurance finely layered rock
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http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/123/1P139114820EFF2815P2532R1M1.JPG
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> Opportunity micro images
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http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/m/105/1M137503553EFF2208P2956M2M1.HTML
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http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/m/106/1M137593860EFF2208P2956M2M1.JPG
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> Blueberry Bowl chart
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http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/mer2004/rover-images/mar-18-2004/captions/image-19.html
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> 4. Siderite as a Component of an Ancient Stromatolite
> "Mossbauer spectra at two temperatures of a freshly slabbed
> portion of a 2.09 Ga (Early Proterozoic) hematic chert stro-
> matolite from the Gunflint Iron Formation
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> Hematic Chert Stromatolite Chsrt
> (Fig 26, bottom of page 16)
> http://geology.asu.edu/jfarmer/pubs/pdfs/mossbauer.pdf
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> Meridiani sinkholes
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http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/n/093/1N136441478EFF1800P1829L0M1.HTML
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http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportunity/pancam/2004-06-14/1P133331623ESF0800P2556L7M1.JPG
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http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/088/1P135996874EFF1413P2285L7M1.HTML
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http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/072/1P134586308EFF0972P2416R7M1.HTML
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http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/074/1P134753252EFF10CGP2591R3M1.JPG
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> Yellowstone fumarole
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http://www.nps.gov/yell/slidefile/thermalfeatures/hotsprings/heartlake/images/16900.jpg
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> Meridiani Fumaroles?
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http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/256/1P150908451EFF36C3P2531R6M1.HTML
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http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/251/1P150465642EFF3691P2432R1M1.HTML
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http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/252/1P150553957EFF36A5P2433L7M1.HTML
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http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/222/1P147891740ESF35CCP2584L2M1.HTML
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http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/237/1P149219731ESF35CRP2588L2M1.HTML
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> Tendril close-up
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http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/211/1P146917874ESF35BGP2568R1M1.HTML
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> Discharge from a Yellowstone thermal spring. Showing the
> brightly colored thermophiles formed into 'tendrils'.
> Thermophiles are heat loving bacteria and algae.
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http://www.nps.gov/yell/slidefile/thermalfeatures/thermophiles/images/05250.jpg
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http://www.nps.gov/yell/slidefile/thermalfeatures/thermophiles/images/05252.jpg
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> Compare the delicate erosion pattern seen in the shadow skyline of
> each picture. Similar processes and both appear recent.
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> Yellowstone mudpot
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http://www.nps.gov/yell/slidefile/thermalfeatures/mudpots/midwaylower/images/05402.jpg
> Endurance mudpot
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http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportunity/pancam/2004-07-16/1P143185259EFF3221P2397R1M1.JPG
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> Did these deposits form when Endurance was covered by a layer of ice?
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http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/170/1P143263578ESF3243P2598L5M1.HTML
> Yellowstone mudpot
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http://www.nps.gov/yell/slidefile/thermalfeatures/mudpots/mudvolcano/images/05721.jpg
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> Mars as an underground 'water-world'.
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> The State and Future of Mars Polar Science and Exploration
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> "The recent identification of putative shorelines in the northern plains
> suggests that the water from these events may have contributed to one or
> more ice-covered lakes or seas that may have collectively covered as
> much as a third of the planet . These, and other lines of evidence,
suggest
> that Mars is water-rich and may store the equivalent of a global
> ocean of water ť 0.5-1 km deep as ground ice and
> groundwater within its crust (Carr 1987)."
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> "Whether the early climate was warm or cold, the presence of
> abundant water on the surface has profound implications for the
> development of life. Indeed, given the intense impact and volcanic
> activity that characterized the planet at this time, the development
> of long-lived hydrothermal systems was likely widespread-
> duplicating many of the important conditions that are thought
> to have given rise to life on Earth (Farmer 1996)."
> http://geology.asu.edu/jfarmer/pubs/pdfs/marspolarsci.pdf
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> Embargoed until 1 p.m. EDT on Wednesday, Sept. 8.
> CU Study: Mars May Have Had Large Sea Near NASA Rover Landing Site
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> "Spacecraft observations of the landing area for one of NASA's two Mars
rovers
> now indicate there likely was an enormous sea or lake covering the region
in the
> past, according to a new University of Colorado at Boulder study."
> http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2004/261.html
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> Nasa is claiming that Mars is exiting a very recent ice age.
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> "Frozen water makes up as much as 10 percent of the top meter (three feet)
> of surface material in some regions close to the equator."
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http://marsprogram.jpl.nasa.gov/odyssey/newsroom/pressreleases/20031208a.html
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> Hydrothermal Systems:
> Doorways to Early Biosphere Evolution
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> ABSTRACT
> "Hydrothermal systems may have provided favorable
> environments for the prebiotic synthesis of
> organic compounds necessary for life and may also
> have been a site for life's origin . They could also have
> provided a refuge for thermophilic (heat-loving)
> microorganisms during late, giant-impact events.
> Phylogenetic information encoded in the genomes of
> extant thermophiles provides important clues about
> this early period of biosphere development that are
> broadly consistent with geological evidence for Archean
> environments . Hydrothermal environments often
> exhibit high rates of mineralization, which favors
> microbial fossilization."
> http://geology.asu.edu/jfarmer/pubs/pdfs/gsa.pdf
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> "It is this common association of microbes and iron
> deposition on earth that has spurred hopes that robot
> crafts exploring the hematite anomaly of Mars' Meridiani
> Planum might find evidence for ancient life. The
> hematite deposits of Meridiani Planum [7], regardless of
> their exact origin, are considered to be a favorable host
> for microorganisms that might have been associated
> with their formation [8]."
> http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2004/pdf/1369.pdf
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> Microbolites in the Geologic Record
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> "Whereas internal morphology indicates the accretionary nature of
stromatolite
> growth, the external morphology of stromatolites can be used to infer
hydrological
> conditions in the environment in which the stromatolites grew. For
instance, in
> still-water environments, stromatolites will approximate a flat sheet,
while in
> more turbulent environments the stromatolites will consist of interlinked
domes
> or columns, with flat, linking mats between them."
> http://www.geocities.com/earthhistory/newstrom.htm
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> Lamination as a tool for distinguishing microbial and metazoan
> biosystems from inert structures
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> Conclusion:
> "Lamination often indicates the presence of microbial or microbially
> dominated biosystems. Furthermore, laminated structures are an
> important borderline to distinguish micro and macroorganisms, although
> such a distinction is relative. Both the presence and absence of
> lamination are lawful phenomena based on the fundamental physical and
> biological/biogeochemical principles."
> http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lpi/scholz.pdf
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> Introduction
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> "At all scales of observation, problems often arise when trying
> to distinguish between biological and inorganic features in the ancient
> rock record. Stromatolites, defined as laminated biosedimentary fabrics
> formed by the trapping and binding of sediments and/or
> precipitation of minerals by microorganisms (Walter 1977),
> are sometimes impossible to distinguish from finely laminated sediments
> formed by inorganic processes"
> http://geology.asu.edu/jfarmer/pubs/pdfs/taphon.pdf
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> Michael C. Storrie-Lombardi
> NASA Astrobiology Institute
> Jet Propulsion Laboratory
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> "The statistical analysis of stromatolites
> presented here is based on the adoption of an approach
> known to the Complexity research community as the
> Compression and Diffusion (CD) method [1].
> http://www.kinohi.org/pdf_files/NAI2003_Complexity.pdf
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> USING COMPLEXITY ANALYSIS TO DISTINGUISH FIELD IMAGES
> OF STROMATOLOIDS FROM SURROUNDING ROCK MATRIX
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> "Storrie-Lombardi et al [9] recently described a method by
> which the biogenicity of stromatoloids may be judged using
> complexity analysis. The complexity of a digital file can be
> quantified using lossless compression algorithms which reduce
> file size by identifying redundant information.
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> At this scale the stromatolite images exhibit minimal
> variance in compressibility (17.8ą2.5%) and are
> significantly less compressible than the images of the
> surrounding rock matrix (31.9ą10.2%, p<0.009, student
> T-test). The ? c value computed implies variation
> of a target from the surrounding matrix more than two
> sigma removed from what would be expected from the
> variance attributable to a random, diffusion driven
> system.
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> This method provides a detection methodology for
> automated search campaigns and a first order analysis for
> the biogenicity of the structures, using the ability of
> the compressibility algorithm to capture the random
> nature of abiotic sediment or the regular nature of a
> biogenically controlled structure."
> http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2004/pdf/1414.pdf
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> A Mossbauer investigation of iron-rich terrestrial
> hydrothermal vent systems: Lessons for Mars exploration
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> "While a high-temperature origin for terrestrial life is still
> debatable, the high biological productivity and rapid
> mineralization that are typical of thermal spring environments
> make them particularly favorable places for the preservation
> of a microbial fossil record. For this reason, hydrothermal
> deposits are regarded as important targets in the exploration
> for fossil evidence of ancient Martian life"
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> "Among the stated capabilities of the Mossbauer instrument is the
> ability to detect "nanophase and amorphous hydrothermal Fe
> minerals that could preserve biological materials" (S.W. Squyres,
> http://astrosun.tn.cornell.edu/athena/mossbauer.html, 1998a).
> Terrestrial hydrothermal springs, including deep-sea vents,
> harbor complex ecosystems that have evolved based on nutri-
> ents and energy supplied by the vent effluent.
> http://geology.asu.edu/jfarmer/pubs/pdfs/mossbauer.pdf
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> 4. Siderite as a Component of an Ancient Stromatolite
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> "Mossbauer spectra at two temperatures of a freshly slabbed
> portion of a 2.09 Ga (Early Proterozoic) hematic chert stro-
> matolite from the Gunflint Iron Formation (PPRG 2443) are
> shown in Figure 26. The high-velocity ferrous peak migrates
> from its position at 100 K to overlap the fifth peak of hematite
> at 19 K. This behavior and the agreement of the splitting pa-
> rameters with those of siderite argue that this sample contains
> a small fraction of siderite. (dominant siderite peak at -1090 cm-I).
> The sample investigated was freshly slabbed for the Mossbauer
> transmission measurement, so the iron carbonate is interior
> to the native stromatolite rock."
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> (Fig 26 page 16, please compare with blueberry bowl chart)
> http://geology.asu.edu/jfarmer/pubs/pdfs/mossbauer.pdf
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> A Bowl of Hematite-Rich 'Berries'
> Mar 18, 2004
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> "This graph shows two spectra of outcrop regions near the
> Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity's landing site.
> The blue line shows data for a region dubbed "Berry Bowl,"
> which contains a handful of the sphere-like grains dubbed
> "blueberries."
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> Blueberry Bowl chart
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http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/mer2004/rover-images/mar-18-2004/captions/image-19.html
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> NASA-JPL May Have Cooked Their Own Goose!
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> "To make a long story short (I shall over-simplify for sake of
> brevity), there is increasing evidence of the function of
> bacteria in rock-forming and even in some sand-forming processes
> (wherein bacteria serve to nucleate the growth of small silicate
> crystals). On Earth, in formation of spherical concretions,
> bacterial colonies and/or other organic matter infused with
> bacteria nucleate crystalline silica growth. I suspect it would
> likewise be the case where Mars was wet over extended periods."
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> "In the wet, mushy or 'muddy' environment, the resulting micro-
> concretion slowly grows (sometimes incorporating or
> encapsulating adjacent grains of silt or sand, sometimes simply
> by crystalline growth from colloidally suspended silica
> crystallizing and pushing adjacent silt ahead of its growth,
> sometimes by a combination of the two processes), increasing its
> diameter spherically across time. If conditions for the
> bacterial colony's growth are episodic, one can sometimes see
> (upon slicing the concretion) rather distinct concentric layers
> of growth that formed the concretion, but where conditions for
> growth are constant, the concretion may show a crystalline
> pattern with virtually no concentric layering."
> http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/2004/mar/m03-035.shtml
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> NASA Technical Memorandum
> WORKSHOP ON
> THE SOCIETAL IMPLICATIONS OF
> ASTROBIOLOGY
> FINAL REPORT
> http://astrobiology.arc.nasa.gov/workshops/societal/societal_report.pdf
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> page 6
> " .... it is extremely important for us to be highly knowledgeable
> about the likely reactions of different constituencies (the press, various
> religious groups, political leaders, and the general public).
> We would be foolish and negligent if we did not study such reactions
> well ahead of time and make state-of-the art preparations for major
> discoveries. Carefully prepared plans should be in place very
> soon, because evidence of extraterrestrial life could be found
> at any time."
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> page 10
> Action Items
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> "Establish a Steering Committee composed of a small but diverse group of
> astrobiologists, social scientists, and scholars......"
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> page 22
> "Many people still fight the concept of Darwinian evolution, and some
> people may be truly fearful of extraterrestrial life. Some of these people
> may use their political clout to deter astrobiology. For people who
> believe that they were created in God's image, discoveries of other life
> forms could prove devastating and perhaps lead to violent reactions.
> Astrobiology could replace the Cold War as a source of ideas and
> controversies. This could continue for decades."
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> page 29
> "The discovery may stimulate a worldwide resurgence in religious
activity."
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> page 31
> "At that point we will not have to undertake lengthy preparations before
> we can collect the information that we need to "manage" contact
> and plan for the post-contact world."
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> page 36
> "One of the reasons for this is a sense of urgency: confirmation of
extraterrestrial
> life could occur at any time and in any of a number of ways.
> When it occurs, we may have only limited control over the situation."
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> Jonathan

Okay. I forgive you. Please keep posting such news, as poets need
something other than navels and navies to be inspired by.

Alacrity
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[Dane Metcalfe]

If that's the case maybe I will be able to provide some tidbits from time to
time. I do a considerable amount if research conducted towards peircing the
veil to see what the underlying fabric of reality is really about...

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[Jonathan]

"Alacrity Stone" <elizabeth...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Okay. I forgive you. Please keep posting such news, as poets need
> something other than navels and navies to be inspired by.
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> Alacrity

I find the Mars mission most inspiring. Looked at every Opportunity
pic thus far and I'm shocked more people can't see the
incredible find Nasa stumbled into.

Nasa has been more than just silent for the last six months, they
locked the place down. No scientist gives interviews, thoughts
or even speculation, it's all gone behind the wall. And this
silence is most certainly not because there's nothing to
say, but quite the opposite.

A hot-springs system is considered to be the most biologically
productive environment of all, and likely the source of the
first life on earth.

The spheres have yet to be identified after almost nine months.

Look at some of these color pics, Nasa is trying to tell us this
is a billion year old site, that has been exposed by weathering.
That's a bald faced lie. The soil is covered by a thin crust, but
under the crust is wet enough...right now...to turn the soil
white when the rover disrupts the soil, does it every time.

And look at the 'dune' to the left, make up of the tiny version of the
spheres cemented in place, Nasa is trying to say these are common
sand dunes. They're not, they are soil coated in a layer of tiny spheres.
http://mars.gh.wh.uni-dortmund.de/mer/opportunity/081/tn/1P135374655EFF10CIP2421L5M1_L2L5L5L7L7.jpg.html

http://mars.gh.wh.uni-dortmund.de/mer/opportunity/101/tn/1P137154109EFF2019P2570L5M1_L2L5L5L6L6.jpg.html

And these sinkholes are recent. Some even have patches of 'something' at the
bottom. Likely ice that has ablated away, leaving behind a sort of permafrost.

http://mars.gh.wh.uni-dortmund.de/mer/opportunity/081/tn/1P135369919EFF10CGP2417L5M1_L2L5L5L7L7.jpg.html

Those sphere cemented dunes go to the horizon.

http://mars.gh.wh.uni-dortmund.de/mer/opportunity/081/tn/1P135369807EFF10CGP2417L5M1_L2L5L5L7L7.jpg.html

And you can see where the water was ...recently ...flowing and how the spheres
are associated with the water. Geology doesn't do this stuff.

http://mars.gh.wh.uni-dortmund.de/mer/opportunity/122/tn/1P139014002EFF2809P2265L5M1_L2L5L5L6L6.jpg.html

And to the right of this pic is the Endurance crater rim, you can see the water
line a few feet from the crater rim.
http://mars.gh.wh.uni-dortmund.de/mer/opportunity/162/tn/1P142566171EFF3221P2389L5M1_L2L5L5L7L7.jpg.html

Here, the odd mineral deposits that are 'standing up' could only have formed
if the crater was covered by a thin sheet of ice. You can even see how the
spheres were splashed onto the bank of the little stream!
http://mars.gh.wh.uni-dortmund.de/mer/opportunity/162/tn/1P142569752EFF3221P2387L5M1_L2L5L5L7L7.jpg.html

And just as an experiment, try this. Just click into these two links below, look
at just the thumbs for five seconds only, a quick glance. And ask yourself
is that geology or biology? We should trust our own eyes, we should
know what life looks like.

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/opportunity_m182.html
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/opportunity_m014.html

More color pics here
http://mars.gh.wh.uni-dortmund.de/mer/

All Opportunity pics here
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/opportunity.html

The prevailing view of Mars is one of a ancient dry desert, where the
atmosphere dissipated long ago along with the water. That is wrong,
Mars is water rich, it's just all gone underground, not evaporated into
space. And keep in mind, a hot-spring could easily replenish an
ice-capped lake faster than then ithe ice-cap would ablate away.
Mars is active now, Mars is alive now, and has been for ages.
Single-celled forms of life certainly, any higher forms doubtful
but who knows.

In my original post, take a good long look at the dark valley
pics. Those are/were massive bacterial blooms that form
when underground water is discharged to the surface and
capped with ice.

There's a reason Mars is red, because bacteria give off
massive amounts of iron deposits. We can see evidence
of life on Mars on a hazy night without even using glasses.
It is/was ...that alive.

They found the second genesis, and a template for our own
Garden of Eden, so to speak. And we have no idea who
is calling the shots, what policies are being implemented
and when, if ever, the science black-out will be lifted.

These are decisions that elected officials only should be
making, not some self-serving scientists looking to
get grants and protect future Nasa programs.

This is the biggest lie in the history of science, it's the
biggest discovery in the history of science.

And the people are being cut-out.

I say that's unacceptable and worthy of some serious
rabble-rousing. I thought poets were supposed to
be politically conscious, and on the cutting edge.

At least that's what I grew up believing.

Jonathan

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