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From: Hieronymous707 <hieronymous...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:23:02 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Opal by Amy Lowell
You are ice and fire,
The touch of you burns my hands like snow.
You are cold and flame.
You are the crimson of amaryllis,
The silver of moon-touched magnolias.
When I am with you,
My heart is a frozen pond
Gleaming with agitated torches.

 
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From: Will Dockery <will.dock...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:19:05 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell

Wow... mighty fine.

 
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 5:09 am
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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 02:09:23 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell
What do you like about it?

 
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 9:38 am
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From: Will Dockery <will.dock...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 06:38:11 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell

On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 5:09:23 AM UTC-5, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> What do you like about it?

The way she writes.

 
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 9:54 am
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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 06:54:34 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell
I don't know what that means exactly, no point of reference. It's nice to know that you like something, but what makes reading you interesting is why you like or dislike something. One liner replies are frustrating for me when they don't sufficiently convey the intent of the author. I know you. I like you. I get frustrated reading you. That's just me.

 
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 9:58 am
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From: Will Dockery <will.dock...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 06:58:05 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 9:58 am
Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell

On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:54:34 AM UTC-5, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> I don't know what that means exactly, no point of reference. It's nice to know that you like something, but what makes reading you interesting is why you like or dislike something. One liner replies are frustrating for me when they don't sufficiently convey the intent of the author. I know you. I like you. I get frustrated reading you. That's just me.

No time right now, sorry.

 
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 10:21 am
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From: Hieronymous707 <hieronymous...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 07:21:49 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell
That's what you always say, no time right now. In fact, there is no time but right now. Every other time is either memory or projection, past or future, not "real" time. Can you at least please explain why you have time for so many one liner replies to so many different posts, but not enough time to respond to one post well, which is to say completely, honestly, and in your own words? Thanks.

 
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 11:51 am
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From: "Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:51:39 -0500
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Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell

Hieronymous707 wrote:

> That's what you always say

No I don't but I reckon I say it about as much as you do.

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 More options Nov 13 2012, 12:00 pm
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From: Hieronymous707 <hieronymous...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:00:58 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell
On Nov 13, 11:51 am, "Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hieronymous707 wrote:

> > That's what you always say

> No I don't but I reckon I say it about as much as you do.

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I don't know what that means, Will, you reckon. It's not a contest,
and you removed the context of my comment in order to say what you
said. Why do that? I don't get it.

 
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 12:24 pm
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From: "Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:24:05 -0500
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Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell

"Hieronymous707" <hieronymous...@gmail.com> wrote:

> respond
> completely, honestly, and in your own words? Thanks.

I did exactly that at the start of this thread:

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 More options Nov 13 2012, 12:36 pm
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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:36:10 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell
On Nov 13, 12:24 pm, "Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Hieronymous707" <hieronymous...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > respond
> > completely, honestly, and in your own words? Thanks.

> I did exactly that at the start of this thread:

No, you honestly didn't, and now you've removed the context of my
previous comment. Why do that? Why not just say why you like the way
she writes like I asked instead of all this round and round stuff
which has nothing to do with the poem? Why not just talk about why you
like the poem? Why is that such an apparently inappropriate question?
I still don't get it.

 
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 12:42 pm
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From: "Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:42:05 -0500
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Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell

Hieronymous707 wrote:

> No, you honestly didn't

I say I did, you say I didn't.

Now which of us do you expect me to believe, Corey?

I gave my comment, /twice/, it turns out:

>> What do you like about it?

> The way she writes.

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 More options Nov 13 2012, 12:46 pm
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From: Hieronymous707 <hirunnymouse...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:46:21 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell
On Nov 13, 12:42 pm, "Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hieronymous707 wrote:

> > No, you honestly didn't

> I say I did, you say I didn't.

> Now which of us do you expect me to believe, Corey?

> I gave my comment, /twice/, it turns out:

> >> What do you like about it?

> > The way she writes.

Why do you insist on making this sound like an argument? It's not. I
simply asked you why you like the way she writes. That's all. You
still haven't answered. Why?

 
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 1:14 pm
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From: "Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:14:13 -0500
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Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell

Hieronymous707 wrote:

>  I simply asked you why you like the way she writes. That's all. You

> still haven't answered. Why?

I like her style, I like the way she uses images and phrasing, and I like
the way she puts it all together into a poem.

Like I said... mighty fine.

> You are ice and fire,
> The touch of you burns my hands like snow.
> You are cold and flame.
> You are the crimson of amaryllis,
> The silver of moon-touched magnolias.
> When I am with you,
> My heart is a frozen pond
> Gleaming with agitated torches.

-Amy Lowell

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 More options Nov 13 2012, 1:22 pm
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From: Hieronymous707 <hirunnymouse...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:22:25 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell
On Nov 13, 1:14 pm, "Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote:

Can you be any more generic and less specific? Why do you make asking
you what you think about a poem feel like pulling teeth? Shouldn't it
be something you like to do, especially here?

 
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 1:27 pm
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From: "Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:27:30 -0500
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Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell

I wrote earlier:

No time right now, sorry.

Did you miss that?

When I have time to go more into depth, I might... right now, no.

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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:43:38 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell
On Nov 13, 1:27 pm, "Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote:

Right. That was at 9:58 this morning, and you've posted I don't know
how many times sense then. It's now early afternoon and you're still
saying you don't have time right now. I don't understand that. What
kind of time do you need to put a couple of detailed thoughts together
and into words here? Why the one liners? What not write a complete
paragraph?

 
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From: Will Dockery <will.dock...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:02:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell

I'm setting up a last minute interview with Kirsten Dunn for either a few minutes from now, or early tomorrow.

I'm popping back here also because this is "home".

I'm also working with a dozen musicians and others to get the World AIDS Concert nailed... song lists, questions, and so on.

And on... lots of questions, lots of songs, chords, words, links to songs.

I'm also doin a couple of real life things out in the yard, mainly stepping put and telling Patrick what needs to be done out back by the shed.

I'm also discussing with Brother Dave about getting an oil change and paying the electric bill before an Atlanta trip later this week.

I'm also chatting with a lady about giving me a shot of pussy later tonight.

I'm also planning to perform a set at the SoHo open mic and discussing this with Jack Snipe and Brian Mallard who may or may not join me.

And a coiple other things.

So... if you knew what

"No time now, later."

was all about you'd have a bit of patience.

But, no... not you, am I right?

Heh...

That was fun.

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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:15:13 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell
On Nov 13, 2:02 pm, Will Dockery <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote:

We all multi-task, Will. We all have busy lives. You don't think I've
been patient with you? Really? Do you really think I'm not doing as
much as you in terms of other activities, or that my life isn't as
full of other people and things as yours? Do you really mean to make
other people, like me, feel small and unimportant to you despite the
time they spend? That's what happens. Why do you do that?

 
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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:14:31 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell

Hieronymous707 wrote:

> We all multi-task, Will.

I don't know about "we all", but I sure do, although I usually don't tend to post about it.

When I do get a chance, there's several things I'd like to mull and figure out for myself about "Opal", such as the obvious homage/parody of Frost's poem comparing fire & ice (which is in turn a reference to the Norse Ragnarok, Twilight of the Gods, Frost Giants, Surtur, and so on)... or is his the homage/parody? I know he and Ezra Pound were sometimes known to be up to these shenanigans.

When I get time... what I'm getting from Amy's poem will take me a few moments, and there's not eough time or energy for it right now.

What do you think of Opal?

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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:08:02 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell
I think Opal is a homoerotic jewel.

 
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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:13:27 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell

On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:08:03 PM UTC-5, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> I think Opal is a homoerotic jewel.

I'm reminded right now of a Patti Smith line from "Horses"... "Where there were eyes there were two white opals..."

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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:59:53 -0500
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Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell

On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:54:34 AM UTC-5, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> I don't know what that means exactly, no point of reference. It's nice to
> know that you like something, but what makes reading you interesting is
> why you like or dislike something. One liner replies are frustrating for
> me when they don't sufficiently convey the intent of the author. I know
> you. I like you. I get frustrated reading you. That's just me.

Okay, I apologize for that, and have a slight bit more time to explore this
fascinating and, I admit, difficult to /pin/ down poem... I like the poem
as-is, as a stand alone, and I like the poem for the memories of other poems
and memories of fire and ice, and similar imagery, myth and so on.

But mainly, as I wrote earlier, I like the way she writes, the way she puts
all that together, mighty fine.

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Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 02:53:44 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell
If Amy Lowell was a cunt, Opal would be her clit.

 
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 More options Nov 14 2012, 10:26 am
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From: Will Dockery <will.dock...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 07:26:04 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Opal by Amy Lowell

On Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:53:44 AM UTC-5, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> If Amy Lowell was a cunt, Opal would be her clit.

Good one.

My thought as I was sleeping was that Amy Lowell is Liz Phair to Robert Frost's Rolling Stones.


 
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