Re: R.I.P. Jim Morrison - Rare videos and photos
Will Dockery
Brett wrote:
> In honor of Jim's passing 34 years ago today, I thought I'd share some
> rare gems from Jim's life...
>
> Jim's first movie...
>
> http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/vid/jim_morrison.wmv
>
> Rare photo of Jim and Pam...
>
> http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_beer.gif
>
> Last photo taken of Jim Morrison hours the day before his death...
>
> http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_pam.jpg
>
> Jim Morrison's ghost caught on film at Paris Graveyard...
>
> http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/morrison.html
The Space Ghost of American poetry lives on. Thanks, pal.
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Bob
Went through years of touring and abusing his body,and in the end it was
the bath tub that finally got him.
--
-Bob
Don't damn me when I speak my peice of mind
Cause silence isn't golden when I'm holding it inside
Cause I've been where I have been and I've seen what I have seen
I put the pen to the paper cause it's all a part of me
-Gnr
All our lives we sweat and save
Building for a shallow grave
Must be something else we say
Somehow to defend this place
-The Doors
Johnny Fairview
the bathtub. just like my grandpa went out
Bob
> i only hope i die as dignified as jimbo did. naked, masturbating, in
> the bathtub. just like my grandpa went out
>
Mine to....except he was in a car at the Jr. Highschool and he was shot...
Will Dockery
"Bob" <Bob...@aol.com> wrote
> > Brett wrote:
> >
> >>In honor of Jim's passing 34 years ago today, I thought I'd share some
> >>rare gems from Jim's life...
> >>
> >>Jim's first movie...
> >>http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/vid/jim_morrison.wmv
> >>
> >>Rare photo of Jim and Pam...
> >>http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_beer.gif
> >>
> >>Last photo taken of Jim Morrison hours the day before his death...
> >>http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_pam.jpg
> >>
> >>Jim Morrison's ghost caught on film at Paris Graveyard...
> >>
> >>http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/morrison.html
> >
> > The Space Ghost of American poetry lives on. Thanks, pal.
>
> the bath tub that finally got him.
The moral of this story is that there are two things musician-poets should
avoid at all costs: airplanes & bathtubs.
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Bob
> "Bob" <Bob...@aol.com> wrote
>
>>>Brett wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>In honor of Jim's passing 34 years ago today, I thought I'd share some
>>>>rare gems from Jim's life...
>>>>
>>>>Jim's first movie...
>>>>http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/vid/jim_morrison.wmv
>>>>
>>>>Rare photo of Jim and Pam...
>>>>http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_beer.gif
>>>>
>>>>Last photo taken of Jim Morrison hours the day before his death...
>>>>http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/images/jim_pam.jpg
>>>>
>>>>Jim Morrison's ghost caught on film at Paris Graveyard...
>>>>
>>>>http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/morrison.html
>>>
>>>The Space Ghost of American poetry lives on. Thanks, pal.
>>
>>Went through years of touring and abusing his body,and in the end it was
>>the bath tub that finally got him.
>
>
> The moral of this story is that there are two things musician-poets should
> avoid at all costs: airplanes & bathtubs.
>
And don't forget speedballs!
--
-Bob
smithmick
>Johnny Fairview wrote:
>> i only hope i die as dignified as jimbo did. naked, masturbating, in
>> the bathtub. just like my grandpa went out
>>
>
>Mine to....except he was in a car at the Jr. Highschool and he was shot...
LOL...10 years ago I was doing a fibreglass job for a waterpark...the
pool manager got suspicious of a guy parked outside watching the
children frolic in the kiddy pool. When he surprised him from behind,
this cat leapt out of the mans vehicle, leaving a very embarrassed man
with shit on his still hard penis.....not having a gun, he quickly
took the mans car keys & called the police.
Here I am now, entertain me : P
Thomas Giarmo
> The moral of this story is that there are two things musician-poets should
> avoid at all costs: airplanes & bathtubs.
The moral of the story is to not engage in the fight for the final
frontier, the space between your ears, with nothing more than a song and a
lyric. Bombastic enemies are stronger.
--
Tom
Will Dockery
"Thomas Giarmo"
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > The moral of this story is that there are two things musician-poets
should
> > avoid at all costs: airplanes & bathtubs.
>
> The moral of the story is to not engage in the fight for the final
> frontier, the space between your ears, with nothing more than a song and a
> lyric. Bombastic enemies are stronger.
Hello, Tom--- I read earlier that you're a pal of JAV's.
Here's the poem mentioned, by JAV, and the comments on the assumption among
the poetry newsgroups cabal that JAV was actually Tom Bishop:
----
Dillman Thomas wrote:
> Don't think it is me, no.
>
> I have no newsfeeds account at this time.
>
> But fuck you very much, idiot Dale.
>
> I assume BL, DHS etc..
> They had a newsfeeds accnt, right?
Okay, but were you Jane Asher's Vagina? Many people here, including Houstman
and Barbie Catshit thought so:
And JAV's poetry/parody style is remarkably similar to yours:
----
From: Jane Asher's Vagina (LadyJaneAs...@Vaginas.net)
Subject: Spectacle by Vicki
Date: 2005-02-11 12:15:50 PST
spectacle
---------
renay haunts me still
fatbutt, I called her
behind her fatback
her fish odors fascinated me
made me beautiful by contrast
and I look like a runover raccoon,
I never gave her the finger
or my used tampaxes
I never asked to be my friend
but her oily pubes offended me
we never
went to a munch
saw a porn flick
traded spaces
shared my boyfriend
I never asked her
to forgive my laughter
her poetry CatShitLike
Why?
but(t) fuckened her husband
so I guess I win.
Vicki
Hmmm... JAV /did/ vanish right before your return, also.
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Thomas Giarmo
Sir Will, "Spectacle", yes, that's the one!! Good Gooblies, Will, these
people think that Ms. Vagina was one of theirs? rotflmao Mercenary
poets? Yes indeed we have the Tom is Vagina Group, Dockery is Vagina
Group, Someone named Fab is Vagina Group; many of these very same people
"could care less about JAV" like Knebel, Nothing, Mizz Scarlett and the
troll-thug Alan Graham, JDM's BIL. It's astonishing to see the number of
posts that posters post while caring so very little :)). FYI, Ms. Vagina
(btw now known as The Loverly Vagina) has set sail for England, I think, I
never know for sure but I found her "w" handle on rec.travel.cruises.
Stenographics is a new science to me.
Will, I have never met her but the archives show that you have or were to.
This is highly unusual, very out-of-character, there had to be reason.
Can you engage?
--
Tom
Alric Knebel
Hey, I never said I'd ignore you. You're a bloated baffoon, and I like
telling you so. It's astonishing what an ass-sized ass you are, Vagina.
And if you're not Vagina, you're close enough to her bloviated style
that I can kill two fools with one stone.
--
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_______________________________________________
Bob
Is cat fucking illeagle there?
Joy Twitcuntry
"Thomas Giarmo" <idonot...@nomail.com> wrote in message news:44py57daqfm2.9ofx5oap18vh$.dlg@40tude.net...
<>
>> Hello, Tom--- I read earlier that you're a pal of JAV's.
No converse that I recall.
I assumed it was chuck, and killfiled...
>>
>> Here's the poem mentioned, by JAV, and the comments on the assumption among
>> the poetry newsgroups cabal that JAV was actually Tom Bishop:
I'm pretty willing to admit to my socks.
JAV was not one of them, but not like I care
if you believe me.
I am totally certain you could never prove it, not that
even that is an issue.
<plonk>
Will Dockery
"Alric Knebel" <al...@bellsouth.net> wrote
The theory now is that Vagina /is/ Tom?
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Dale Houstman
Will Dockery wrote:
>
>
> The theory now is that Vagina /is/ Tom?
>
No: the theory is that it makes no difference whether or not we
distinguish between this foaming moron or that simpering worm bait, as
long as we know which one is asking for it and which one is begging for
it. Do you actually think that it is important whether or not the
moronically-handled JAV is in fact the moronically-lame Tom? Tom's a
skulking collop of pustrescent veal, JAV's a wriggling infested skank
hole, and you're the puppy they both caught in their stinknest when you
wandered off the road into the first rest home that allowed mangy dogs.
dmh
Thomas Giarmo
Yes, Knebel is bouncing all over the place, half-day ago Emily Post was the
Vagina according to him. Knebel is a stunted version of the one man
kabal, Will, he is man scorned and turned away by TLV, she teased him and
he pricked right up. Ask V, Knebel has his own relatives in the cahoots
and I think he doesn't know it. She does.
--
Tom
Thomas Giarmo
God, you sound like Alric Knebel!! Words without true meaning, Face With
No Eyes!!
--
Tom
Will Dockery
This from the fellow that owns the Bishop-in-bondage photo
collection... heh.
Will Dockery
"Thomas Giarmo" wrote
> Dale Houstman wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > The theory now is that Vagina /is/ Tom?
> > >
> > No: the theory is that it makes no difference whether or not we
> > distinguish between this foaming moron or that simpering worm bait, as
> > long as we know which one is asking for it and which one is begging for
> > it. Do you actually think that it is important whether or not the
> > moronically-handled JAV is in fact the moronically-lame Tom? Tom's a
> > skulking collop of pustrescent veal, JAV's a wriggling infested skank
> > hole, and you're the puppy they both caught in their stinknest when you
> > wandered off the road into the first rest home that allowed mangy dogs.
>
> No Eyes!!
Dale's /surreal/.
Alric Knebel
If I tell you, we'll make you take acid and kill Castro.
Will Dockery
"Alric Knebel" <al...@bellsouth.net> wrote
> Will Dockery wrote:
If ya'll dose me, I'd hate to waste the trip on whacking some guy with a
cool beard.
Alric Knebel
Now, Will, to read this, you'll have to get the December 1957 edition of
Life magazine, and on page 22, there's a number imbedded on the Lucky
Strike pack. It'll tell you how many letters are actually relevant in
that post. If you flip forward the same number of pages, you'll see
another number imbedded in the folds of the woman's dress. It'll tell
you how many spaces to count between the letters in the message. Those
are the relevant letters. You unscramble them for the message. She's
probably telling you what Alice Cooper's real name is, and the part he
played in Joplin's -- Scott Joplin; not Janis -- death.
Alric Knebel
Damn, that was stupid, even for YOU.
j r sherman
now THAT'S poetry!!! :D
love and kisses,
j r sherman
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Joy Yourcenar
>In article <42CC4020...@skypoint.com>, Dale Houstman says...
>>
>>
>>
>>Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > The theory now is that Vagina /is/ Tom?
>> >
>>No: the theory is that it makes no difference whether or not we
>>distinguish between this foaming moron or that simpering worm bait, as
>>long as we know which one is asking for it and which one is begging for
>>it. Do you actually think that it is important whether or not the
>>moronically-handled JAV is in fact the moronically-lame Tom? Tom's a
>>skulking collop of pustrescent veal, JAV's a wriggling infested skank
>>hole, and you're the puppy they both caught in their stinknest when you
>>wandered off the road into the first rest home that allowed mangy dogs.
>>
>>dmh
>
>now THAT'S poetry!!! :D
>
>love and kisses,
>
>j r sherman
Isn't it though?
Joy
Joy Yourcenar
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icon/graphy: www.evolvingbeauty.com/icon
Poetry is the needle that pricks your finger.
Everything else is the haystack.
~Rob Evans~
Dale Houstman
j r sherman wrote:
> In article <42CC4020...@skypoint.com>, Dale Houstman says...
>
>>>
>>
>>No: the theory is that it makes no difference whether or not we
>>distinguish between this foaming moron or that simpering worm bait, as
>>long as we know which one is asking for it and which one is begging for
>>it. Do you actually think that it is important whether or not the
>>moronically-handled JAV is in fact the moronically-lame Tom? Tom's a
>>skulking collop of pustrescent veal, JAV's a wriggling infested skank
>>hole, and you're the puppy they both caught in their stinknest when you
>>wandered off the road into the first rest home that allowed mangy dogs.
>>
>>dmh
>
>
> now THAT'S poetry!!! :D
>
> love and kisses,
>
> j r sherman
>
>
Now let's see if Will will put it to "music" and perform it at the next
Festival of Stumblers.
dmh
Dale Houstman
Joy Yourcenar wrote:
> On 6 Jul 2005 15:02:04 -0700, j r sherman <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>>In article <42CC4020...@skypoint.com>, Dale Houstman says...
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Will Dockery wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>The theory now is that Vagina /is/ Tom?
>>>>
>>>
>>>No: the theory is that it makes no difference whether or not we
>>>distinguish between this foaming moron or that simpering worm bait, as
>>>long as we know which one is asking for it and which one is begging for
>>>it. Do you actually think that it is important whether or not the
>>>moronically-handled JAV is in fact the moronically-lame Tom? Tom's a
>>>skulking collop of pustrescent veal, JAV's a wriggling infested skank
>>>hole, and you're the puppy they both caught in their stinknest when you
>>>wandered off the road into the first rest home that allowed mangy dogs.
>>>
>>>dmh
>>
>>now THAT'S poetry!!! :D
>>
>>love and kisses,
>>
>>j r sherman
>
>
>
>
> Isn't it though?
>
> Joy
Buy my new chapbook "Visions of Bloated Ineptitude: The Will, Tom, and
Chickless Saga."
dmh
Johnny Fairview
>
> The moral of this story is that there are two things musician-poets should
> avoid at all costs: airplanes & bathtubs.
>
you know, you're right. im not gonna stop masturbating. i guess i
oughtta stop doing it while bathing in airplanes though. that just
seems to be inviting too much irony my way
Will Dockery
Joy Twitcuntry wrote:
> "Thomas Giarmo" wrote:
> <>
> >> Hello, Tom--- I read earlier that you're a pal of JAV's.
>
> No converse that I recall.
>
> I assumed it was chuck, and killfiled...
I was writing to Tom Giarmo, not you, Tom Bishop/Joy/et al.
You've claimed to have me killfiled anyhow, but we all know how /that/
works with the Bishop and his confused multiples.
> >> Here's the poem mentioned, by JAV, and the comments on the assumption among
> >> the poetry newsgroups cabal that JAV was actually Tom Bishop
>
> I'm pretty willing to admit to my socks.
>
> JAV was not one of them, but not like I care
> if you believe me.
>
> I am totally certain you could never prove it, not that
> even that is an issue.
I never thought you were Vagina /or/ Sword. My point was that many
people did, and in Houstman's case, still /do/.
> <plonk>
The sound of a leaking killfile.
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Can the people in this thread PLEASE stop cross-posting every comment to
rec.music.artists.springsteen?????
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Joy Twitcuntry
"Dan" <D...@Highway29.net> wrote in message news:EoednXkY6uE...@comcast.com...
> Will Dockery wrote:
>> Joy Twitcuntry wrote:
>>
>>>"Thomas Giarmo" wrote:
>>><>
>>>
>>>>>Hello, Tom--- I read earlier that you're a pal of JAV's.
>>>
>>>No converse that I recall.
>>>
>>>I assumed it was chuck, and killfiled...
>>
>>
>> I was writing to Tom Giarmo, not you, Tom Bishop/Joy/et al.
>>
>> You've claimed to have me killfiled anyhow, but we all know how /that/
>> works with the Bishop and his confused multiples.
Will, you aren't interested in my understanding of poetry, and
to have you in my browser means letting in BC, jr, Dale, peewee, 'ennis, etc...
(which is most of your traffic.) I'll have to pass.
If you could killfile more of them, perhaps.
>>
>>
>>>>>Here's the poem mentioned, by JAV, and the comments on the assumption among
>>>>>the poetry newsgroups cabal that JAV was actually Tom Bishop
>>>
>>>I'm pretty willing to admit to my socks.
>>>
>>>JAV was not one of them, but not like I care
>>>if you believe me.
>>>
>>>I am totally certain you could never prove it, not that
>>>even that is an issue.
>>
>>
>> I never thought you were Vagina /or/ Sword. My point was that many
>> people did, and in Houstman's case, still /do/.
Houstman is a baby.
>>
>>
>>><plonk>
>>
>>
>> The sound of a leaking killfile.
There are lots of people that I never talk to again.
:)
Will Dockery
> "Dan" <D...@Highway29.net> wrote
> >>>"Thomas Giarmo" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>Hello, Tom--- I read earlier that you're a pal of JAV's.
> >>>
> >>>No converse that I recall.
> >>>
> >>>I assumed it was chuck, and killfiled...
> >>
> >> I was writing to Tom Giarmo, not you, Tom Bishop/Joy/et al.
> >>
> >> You've claimed to have me killfiled anyhow, but we all know how /that/
> >> works with the Bishop and his confused multiples.
>
> Will, you aren't interested in my understanding of poetry,
Actually, I'm very interested. In fact, I've used what I learned from
you by studying the rewrite process you went through on "Skirt Of
Printed Sunflowers" with "Pastel Hollarings" for the newly rewritten
poem "Pastel Mythology", which just went into print yesterday in PGMag
<http://www.playgroundsmag.com> the local "arts" monthly here in
Shadowville. The first of my new poems I consider /ready/.
In addition, I learned from your poem "Spring", through the exchange
between you and Dale Houstman recently, where he took /that/ poem and
rewrote it as "Milk Cannisters" or somesuch. That, and his masterful
"Her Lark Colony" has been useful to study in working with the poem
"Scorpioman In Trashcanland", which I hope to have ready by the August
issue.
This stuff will be /reflected/ here, eventually, but /real life/ and my
/real aufdience/, the People of Shadowville, come first, of course.
> and
> to have you in my browser means letting in BC, jr, Dale, peewee, 'ennis, etc...
> (which is most of your traffic.) I'll have to pass.
>
> If you could killfile more of them, perhaps.
BC and Boss I can almost always ignore, JRS I like to spar with, and
there's too much left to learn from Uncle Dennis and Cousin Dale... you
can always have a look from time to time when you're slumming in
Google, and give me a shout out if the need arises... stuff 'em Tom.
> >>>>>Here's the poem mentioned, by JAV, and the comments on the assumption among
> >>>>>the poetry newsgroups cabal that JAV was actually Tom Bishop
> >>>
> >>>I'm pretty willing to admit to my socks.
> >>>
> >>>JAV was not one of them, but not like I care
> >>>if you believe me.
> >>>
> >>>I am totally certain you could never prove it, not that
> >>>even that is an issue.
> >>
> >> I never thought you were Vagina /or/ Sword. My point was that many
> >> people did, and in Houstman's case, still /do/.
>
> Houstman is a baby.
Dale's mild mannered poet turned Hasty Pudding by the preassures of
non-stop cabal slurping.
> >> The sound of a leaking killfile.
>
> There are lots of people that I never talk to again.
Cute kitties... I showed 'em to Orson and Dingy.
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>
>
> j r sherman wrote:
>
>> In article <42CC4020...@skypoint.com>, Dale Houstman says...
>>
>
>>>>
>>>
>>> No: the theory is that it makes no difference whether or not we
>>> distinguish between this foaming moron or that simpering worm bait,
>>> as long as we know which one is asking for it and which one is
>>> begging for it. Do you actually think that it is important whether or
>>> not the moronically-handled JAV is in fact the moronically-lame Tom?
>>> Tom's a skulking collop of pustrescent veal, JAV's a wriggling
>>> infested skank hole, and you're the puppy they both caught in their
>>> stinknest when you wandered off the road into the first rest home
>>> that allowed mangy dogs.
>>>
>>> dmh
Heh.
Two "hehs" up, even.
>>
>>
>>
>> now THAT'S poetry!!! :D
>> love and kisses,
>> j r sherman
>>
> Now let's see if Will will put it to "music" and perform it at the next
> Festival of Stumblers.
>
> dmh
>
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ggamble
wrote:
>
>This stuff will be /reflected/ here, eventually, but /real life/ and my
>/real aufdience/, the People of Shadowville, come first, of course.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder
American Description
Diagnostic Criteria
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for
admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and
present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of
the following:
1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates
achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without
commensurate achievements)
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power,
brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be
understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status
people (or institutions)
4. requires excessive admiration
5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of
especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her
expectations
6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others
to achieve his or her own ends
7. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the
feelings and needs of others
8. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious
of him or her
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
Will Dockery
ggamble wrote:
> "Will Dockery" wrote:
>
> >True, Uncle Dennis, a bigger question is if it's the Will Dockery of
> >the movie or the dream in the mirror, or the other Will Dockery that's
> >reflected into my art and doubled back here?
>
> Narcissistic Personality Disorder
> American Description
> Diagnostic Criteria
Did you write this yourself, or did you borrow it? If you /did/ borrow it,
you should give a credit and/or a link, y'know... if you /did/ write it,
though... pretty good!
> A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior),
Yeah, that's my style, in art and life. I like things done on a grand,
sweeping scale, and admire others with these leanings. That's why guys like
you that don't seem to do much of anything bore me, at best. This is the
best thing you've done since I first encountered you, Gamble... too bad you
probably didn't even write it.
> need for admiration,
I can't say I have a particular /need/ for admiration, though, no more than
any other human, at least. I do have a /need/ to create my work, and never
work in a vacume... I don't feel a poem, or any other work of art is
/complete/ until it's put out into public for an audience. Obviously, if I
had a /need/ for "admiration", I'd have blown this scene long ago for some
group of back patter type. I enjoy a good fight, and more often than not
your gang provides this... in spades.
> and lack of empathy,
Can't agree with this one, much... I'm quite the empath, as reflected in
many of my songs and poems.
> beginning by early adulthood and
> present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of
> the following:
>
> 1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates
> achievements and talents,
I'm confident in my powers as an artist, and certainly the creation of these
works thrills me to no end, and, yeah, I've been known to work my own
publicity campaigns and can play the Funky Flashman when the need arises,
something I picked up at least as early as my childhood readings of Marvel
Comix, as well as movie and rock music advertisments, interviews, et cetera.
That's me, and I'll easily go with this one.
> expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate
> achievements)
Here, it flows away from being an accurate description of "Will Dockery", as
my achievements are legion in art music and poetry, as well as comedy,
performance art, and many other areas... and the fact is that I /am/
superior to the gaggle of jeering, do-nothing, no talent hecklers on the
poetry newsgroups, many of which don't even /write poetry/.
I've got the goods... sorry if that hurts your collective feelings.
> 2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power,
> brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
None of these apply to me... I work a simple job for some cash to live on,
not that interested in "power", as I've got enough to get what I need done,
"I held beauty on my knee and found her bitter", thus love is not
particularly interesting to me, these days... which has influenced the newer
poetry in a positive direction: less soap-opera-confessional-navel-gazing
work in the upcoming works in progress.
> 3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique
Heh! Well that's the facts, Jack! My art /is/ completely original, as the
arguments with my groupie on this very thread yesterday made clear. I'm the
best at what I /do/, which is being "Will Dockery", and every move I make is
performance art... got a problem with that? Well that ain't /my/ problem.
> and can only be
> understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status
> people (or institutions)
This is not me, as anyone that knows me either here on Usenet /or/ real life
can easily see. As JRS is so fond of pointing out endlessly: I'm a man of
very simple tastes, and like it that way.
> 4. requires excessive admiration
I can't say I have a particular /need/ for admiration, though, no more than
any other human, at least. I do have a /need/ to create my work, and never
work in a vacume... I don't feel a poem, or any other work of art is
/complete/ until it's put out into public for an audience. Obviously, if I
had a /need/ for "admiration", I'd have blown this scene long ago for some
group of back patter type. I enjoy a good fight, and more often than not
your gang provides this... in spades.
> 5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of
> especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her
> expectations
Not at all. I do what I do, and the audience can take it or leave it... the
bottom line is that I create the art for /myself/ first, and if /I/ like it,
out it goes... to the public.
I make the art that works, and will continue to until I drop.
> 6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others
> to achieve his or her own ends
I'm a "people person", and it takes people sometimes to make certain things
/happen/... but I don't "exploit" anything except talent, from which
everyone wins in the end. For example, collaborating with musicians, et
cetera.
> 7. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the
> feelings and needs of others
Can't agree with this one, much... I'm quite the empath, as reflected in
many of my songs and poems.
> 8. is often envious of others
Never. I'm content with my work and encourage everyone to create. In fact
I'm often disgusted with the agenda of others on the poetry newsgroups to
try to drive away newcomers, and to stifle the creativity of the other
poets, notably in my case, for example.
> or believes that others are envious of him or her
Heh. Have to admit that I /do/ see a bit of /that/ from time-to-time... it
could even be speculated that this very post by Gary Gamble is an example of
that, since he's a burned out gasfly that hasn't actually written, or at
least /posted/ a poem in these parts in a very long time. In fact, as I
wrote earlier, this post [which he may not have even written] is the most
I've /ever/ seen the boy do.
> 9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
Arrogant, Hell yes. Haughty? Never in my life.
Good show, Gamble... got more? How about an actual poem now?
--
The Netherlands/Shadowville cross cultural exchange
project <http://www.kannibaal.nl/shadowville.htm>
"Mirror Twins" [Will Dockery]
<http://www.lulu.com/items/volume_1/29000/29085/1/preview/Will_Dockery_-_03_
-_Track__3.mp3>
Thomas Giarmo
> Joy Twitcuntry wrote:
>> "Thomas Giarmo" wrote:
>> <>
>>>> Hello, Tom--- I read earlier that you're a pal of JAV's.
>>
>> No converse that I recall.
>>
>> I assumed it was chuck, and killfiled...
>
> I was writing to Tom Giarmo, not you, Tom Bishop/Joy/et al.
>
> You've claimed to have me killfiled anyhow, but we all know how /that/
> works with the Bishop and his confused multiples.
>
>>>> Here's the poem mentioned, by JAV, and the comments on the assumption among
>>>> the poetry newsgroups cabal that JAV was actually Tom Bishop
>>
>> I'm pretty willing to admit to my socks.
>>
>> JAV was not one of them, but not like I care
>> if you believe me.
>>
>> I am totally certain you could never prove it, not that
>> even that is an issue.
>
> I never thought you were Vagina /or/ Sword. My point was that many
> people did, and in Houstman's case, still /do/.
>
>> <plonk>
>
> The sound of a leaking killfile.
We have our FORGER over here on amt-d, Will, Hyacinth has morphed to at
least five other names and now has been caught in his FRAUD. Yopu've got
your children, we have ours.
--
Tom
Will Dockery
And in the end I say: "Let the kids have their fun", Tom.
Perhaps someday my newsgroups can get back to discussion and writing of
poetry and yours can get back to the discussion of Jim Morrison, which,
come to think of it, is /also/ the discussion of poetry, JDM being one
of the ultimate Poets of the People.
Thomas Giarmo
>> We have our FORGER over here on amt-d, Will, Hyacinth has morphed to at
>> least five other names and now has been caught in his FRAUD. Yopu've got
>> your children, we have ours.
>
> And in the end I say: "Let the kids have their fun", Tom.
>
> Perhaps someday my newsgroups can get back to discussion and writing of
> poetry and yours can get back to the discussion of Jim Morrison, which,
> come to think of it, is /also/ the discussion of poetry, JDM being one
> of the ultimate Poets of the People.
Can't stop them, Will, as The Loverly Vagina says "fucken kiddies must have
their funsies", it's what defines them as infantile :0)
Jim was Best among the Best, Will, and I have to give you a "Thanks" since
you brought V to amt-d and I followed. Jim was a poet before anything but
I see that the archives reflect that many of your newsgroupers disagree.
Not hard to imagine that since wannabee poets have a diversion to real ones
:)
I do have to say that Spectacle is not exactly JDM quality but the source
material was shite to begin with :). Will, have you met the Vagina in
person and did you see the devastation in Henry County?
--
Tom
j r sherman
>
>
>Yeah, that's my style, in art and life.
to be drunk all the time and produce nothing but shit?
why should anyone aspire to that?
j r sherman
tom, are you also from the south?
Will Dockery
"Thomas Giarmo" wrote
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> >> We have our FORGER over here on amt-d, Will, Hyacinth has morphed to at
> >> least five other names and now has been caught in his FRAUD. Yopu've
got
> >> your children, we have ours.
> >
> > And in the end I say: "Let the kids have their fun", Tom.
> >
> > Perhaps someday my newsgroups can get back to discussion and writing of
> > poetry and yours can get back to the discussion of Jim Morrison, which,
> > come to think of it, is /also/ the discussion of poetry, JDM being one
> > of the ultimate Poets of the People.
>
> Can't stop them, Will, as The Loverly Vagina says "fucken kiddies must
have
> their funsies", it's what defines them as infantile :0)
>
> Jim was Best among the Best, Will, and I have to give you a "Thanks" since
> you brought V to amt-d and I followed. Jim was a poet before anything
but
> I see that the archives reflect that many of your newsgroupers disagree.
> Not hard to imagine that since wannabee poets have a diversion to real
ones
> :)
Tell me about it, pal! They're /livid/ when a real one's present, or
remembered.
> I do have to say that Spectacle is not exactly JDM quality but the source
> material was shite to begin with :). Will, have you met the Vagina in
> person and did you see the devastation in Henry County?
Not familiar with the events... what happened?
That's around Lake Lanier, iirc.
Will Dockery
>
> >Yeah, that's my style, in art and life.
>
> to be drunk all the time and produce nothing but shit?
>
> why should anyone aspire to that?
Where did I write that anyone should aspire to /anything/?
I do what I do. You don't like it? You don't have to look... whether you
like my art or not isn't my problem.
samvaknin
A more detailed view:
http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/1.html
http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/npdglance.html
Take care.
Sam
Thomas Giarmo
>> Jim was Best among the Best, Will, and I have to give you a "Thanks" since
>> you brought V to amt-d and I followed. Jim was a poet before anything
> but
>> I see that the archives reflect that many of your newsgroupers disagree.
>> Not hard to imagine that since wannabee poets have a diversion to real
> ones
>> :)
>
> Tell me about it, pal! They're /livid/ when a real one's present, or
> remembered.
>
>> I do have to say that Spectacle is not exactly JDM quality but the source
>> material was shite to begin with :). Will, have you met the Vagina in
>> person and did you see the devastation in Henry County?
>
> Not familiar with the events... what happened?
>
> That's around Lake Lanier, iirc.
No, it's in Henry County which is south Atlanta MRSA and Lanier is north
Atlanta MRSA
--
Tom
Hyacinth H
drawn to 'As I Look Back.' It very nearly brings tears to my eyes and
a pall over my being. Jim sounds at his most vulnerable.
Hyacinth
Will Dockery
"Hyacinth H" <heidih...@netscape.net> wrote
>
> Will - Do you have a favorite Jim Morrison poem? I've always been
> drawn to 'As I Look Back.' It very nearly brings tears to my eyes and
> a pall over my being. Jim sounds at his most vulnerable.
If I had to pick a favorite, it'd probably be some of the stuff from
American Prayer, which i haven't heard in years but still rattles with
power:
----
AWAKE
Shake dreams from your hair
My pretty child, my sweet one.
Choose the day and choose the sign of your day
The day's divinity
First thing you see.
A vast radiant beach in a cool jeweled moon
Couples naked race down by it's quiet side
And we laugh like soft, mad children
Smug in the wooly cotton brains of infancy
The music and voices are all around us.
Choose they croon the Ancient Ones
The time has come again
Choose now, they croon
Beneath the moon
Beside an ancient lake
Enter again the sweet forest
Enter the hot dream
Come with us
Everything is broken up and dances.
Indians scattered on dawn's highway bleeding
Ghosts crowd the young child's fragile eggshell mind.
DAWN'S HIGHWAY
Me and my -ah- mother and father - and a
grandmother and a grandfather - were driving through
the desert, at dawn, and a truck load of Indian
workers had either hit another car, or just - I don't
know what happened - but there were Indians scattered
all over the highway, bleeding to death.
So the car pulls up and stops. That was the first time
I tasted fear. I musta' been about four - like a child is
like a flower, his head is just floating in the
breeze, man.
The reaction I get now thinking about it, looking
back - is that the souls of the ghosts of those dead
Indians...maybe one or two of 'em...were just
running around freaking out, and just leaped into my
soul. And they're still in there.
DAWN'S HIGHWAY & NEWBORN AWAKENING
DAWN'S HIGHWAY
Indians scattered on dawn's highway bleeding
Ghosts crowd the young child's fragile eggshell mind.
Blood in the streets in the town of New Haven
Blood stains the roofs and the palm trees of Venice
Blood in my love in the terrible summer
Bloody red sun of Phantastic L.A.
Blood screams her brain as they chop off her fingers
Blood will be born in the birth if a nation
Blood is the rose of mysterious union
Blood on the rise, it's following me.
Indian, Indian what did you die for?
Indian says, nothing at all.
-Jim Morrison
----
The one about "tight lipped little losers", is hilarious, JDM covers all the
bases...
--
The Netherlands/Shadowville cross cultural exchange
project <http://www.kannibaal.nl/shadowville.htm>
"Mirror Twins" [Will Dockery]
<http://tinyurl.com/7on5h>
Will Dockery
Yeah, I was thinking of Cobb or Gwinett, I guess... what happened in Henry
County?
--
"Mirror Twins" [Will Dockery]
<http://tinyurl.com/7on5h>
j r sherman
>
>
>"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
>> Will Dockery says...
>>
>> >Yeah, that's my style, in art and life.
>>
>> to be drunk all the time and produce nothing but shit?
>>
>> why should anyone aspire to that?
>
>Where did I write that anyone should aspire to /anything/?
shouldn't an artist aspire to be better with each new project. the shit you
produce now isn't ANY different than the shit you produced seven years ago.
>I do what I do. You don't like it? You don't have to look... whether you
>like my art or not isn't my problem.
i never said it was. but you've spent a lot of time today telling all of us how
good you are.
i want to know why you think what you do is any good? who besides you thinks
what you do is any good?
it's not a difficult question.
Will Dockery
"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
> Will Dockery says...
> >
> >> >Yeah, that's my style, in art and life.
> >>
> >> to be drunk all the time and produce nothing but shit?
> >>
> >> why should anyone aspire to that?
> >
> >Where did I write that anyone should aspire to /anything/?
>
> shouldn't an artist aspire to be better with each new project.
That's up to the artist, JRS.
--
"Mirror Twins" [Will Dockery]
<http://tinyurl.com/7on5h>
Thomas Giarmo
>>> Not familiar with the events... what happened?
>>>
>>> That's around Lake Lanier, iirc.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/ay53p
>>
>> No, it's in Henry County which is south Atlanta MRSA and Lanier is north
>> Atlanta MRSA
>
> Yeah, I was thinking of Cobb or Gwinett, I guess... what happened in Henry
> County?
Some death, millions, maybe billions in damage. You down in Columbus?
--
Tom
j r sherman
>
>
>"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
>> Will Dockery says...
>> >
>> >> >Yeah, that's my style, in art and life.
>> >>
>> >> to be drunk all the time and produce nothing but shit?
>> >>
>> >> why should anyone aspire to that?
>> >
>> >Where did I write that anyone should aspire to /anything/?
>>
>> shouldn't an artist aspire to be better with each new project.
>
>That's up to the artist, JRS.
and that's why you suck, dockery. that's why everything you do is shit. every
song, every poem, every time you stagger around on a stage looking like an
idiotic buffoon, in everything you do, it's complete shit. and now we know why.
to not aspire to be better than the last thing you did? what's the fucking point
of doing it? why do it at all if you're not going to try harder each time? how
much more lazy can you get?
what a gutless, wasted and pathetic poseur you are. you're just using up oxygen
humans could be using. killing yourself would be doing humanity a service.
Will Dockery
"Thomas Giarmo" wrote
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> >>> Not familiar with the events... what happened?
> >>>
> >>> That's around Lake Lanier, iirc.
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/ay53p
> >>
> >> No, it's in Henry County which is south Atlanta MRSA and Lanier is
north
> >> Atlanta MRSA
> >
> > Yeah, I was thinking of Cobb or Gwinett, I guess... what happened in
Henry
> > County?
>
> Some death, millions, maybe billions in damage.
Damn. When?
> You down in Columbus?
Yeah.
Will Dockery
"j r sherman" wrote
> >> Will Dockery says...
> >> >
> >> >> >Yeah, that's my style, in art and life.
> >> >>
> >> >> to be drunk all the time and produce nothing but shit?
> >> >>
> >> >> why should anyone aspire to that?
> >> >
> >> >Where did I write that anyone should aspire to /anything/?
> >>
> >> shouldn't an artist aspire to be better with each new project.
> >
> >That's up to the artist, JRS.
>
> and that's why you suck, dockery. that's why everything you do is shit.
every
> song, every poem, every time you stagger around on a stage looking like an
> idiotic buffoon, in everything you do, it's complete shit. and now we know
why.
>
> to not aspire to be better than the last thing you did? what's the fucking
point
> of doing it? why do it at all if you're not going to try harder each time?
how
> much more lazy can you get?
>
> what a gutless, wasted and pathetic poseur you are. you're just using up
oxygen
> humans could be using. killing yourself would be doing humanity a service.
JRS' daily /tizzy/, right on time.
j r sherman
i also notice that when you're cornered you start to get chuckles-like in your
responses.
so you truly think that it's perfectly ok to never strive harder, be better than
the last time, always try to be better than you were before?
like i said, it's why you suck, and everything you produce is shit.
what a gutless, wasted and pathetic poseur you are.
Will Dockery
"j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
Just noting that you're in your daily "tizzy", JRS.
> so you truly think that it's perfectly ok to never strive harder, be
better than
> the last time, always try to be better than you were before?
There's always room for improvement.
> like i said, it's why you suck, and everything you produce is shit.
>
> what a gutless, wasted and pathetic poseur you are.
What a jeering no-talent twit /you/ are.
And in a "tizzy", as usual.
j r sherman
well, i just find it hard to believe that someone would be as lazy as you are. i
was right when i said you're only because you like posing.
>> so you truly think that it's perfectly ok to never strive harder, be
>better than
>> the last time, always try to be better than you were before?
>
>There's always room for improvement.
indeed, so much room for improvement that you could lay several galaxies
inbetween what you produce and what any person with an IQ higher than 70
considered to be good art.
your laziness is why what you make sucks. your stupidity is why what you make
sucks really, really bad.
>> like i said, it's why you suck, and everything you produce is shit.
>>
>> what a gutless, wasted and pathetic poseur you are.
>
>What a jeering no-talent twit /you/ are.
but dockery, my work, while certainly not great, has been praised a number of
times.
has anyone praised your work? ever? in your whole life?
has anyone with an IQ higher than 70 ever praised your work? has anyone who has
ever produced a yearly, bound, not website based, collection of poetry ever
asked you to submit a poem for publication?
ever?
i've done this several times. my work sits on lovely wooden bookshelves in
several large cities.
your work is reposted, by ONLY you, a thousand times over in usenet.
i wonder why that is?
the messenjah
j r, looks like Will still has you in a tizzy. heh...
Will Dockery
This from the little man who hasn't post a poem on the poetry newsgroups in
/years/.
But in your case I don't think it can be blamed on laziness.... it's more
like you're ashamed of the quality of your poetry and afraid of the scrutiny
posting it here would bring.
--
The Netherlands/Shadowville cross cultural exchange
project <http://tinyurl.com/7on5h> [Mirror Twins]
"If I gave a whim what "better" men than they had to say about sniffy
sonnets, Ida never writ in the first place."
-Dennis M. Hammes, 2005
Daedalus
<theguyo...@veryfast.biz>, wrote:
He's in your thoughts, pedopussy.
Jade
j r sherman
you contradict yourself (again), dockery-stupid. just yesterday you claimed that
you read the poem i posted just a month ago.
now you say i have posted a poem in the newsgroup for years. which is it?
>But in your case I don't think it can be blamed on laziness.... it's more
>like you're ashamed of the quality of your poetry and afraid of the scrutiny
>posting it here would bring.
but i posted a poem here just recently. you even claim that you've read it.
are you lying about that?
or are you so incredibly stupid that you forgot that you said you'd read it?
i can outthink and outwrite you even if i were dead, dockery.
Will Dockery
The poem I found written by you which you wisely have left buried in the
archives tells another tale, my little friend.
j r sherman
by far better than ANYTHING you've ever written, dockery.
but why did you say earlier today that i haven't posted a poem here in years?
were you lying?
Patricia
> "j r sherman" <jr...@earthlink.net> wrote
> > Will Dockery says...
> >
> > >Yeah, that's my style, in art and life.
> >
> > to be drunk all the time and produce nothing but shit?
> >
> > why should anyone aspire to that?
>
> Where did I write that anyone should aspire to /anything/?
>
> I do what I do. You don't like it? You don't have to look... whether you
> like my art or not isn't my problem.
It is when you're cross-posting it to every fucking newsgroup on
usenet. When are you going to get it that no one gives a shit about
your insane ramblings, Dockery? Pick a newsgroup and inflict yourself
on it exclusively. Leave the rest of us to hate your guts in peace,
from a great, great distance.
Will Dockery
"Patricia" <pbutl...@aol.com> wrote
Thanks, Patty.
When I want your advice I'll /ask/ for it, though.
Don't hold your breath.
--
The Netherlands/Shadowville cross cultural exchange
Will Dockery
Show don't tell, old son.
Post it here and the quality of your poem can be judged.
Will Dockery
"~sigh~" <x...@xxx.org > wrote
"Patricia" wrote:
> >Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >Yeah, that's my style, in art and life.
> >> >
> >> > to be drunk all the time and produce nothing but shit?
> >> >
> >> > why should anyone aspire to that?
> >>
> >> Where did I write that anyone should aspire to /anything/?
> >>
> >> I do what I do. You don't like it? You don't have to look... whether
you
> >> like my art or not isn't my problem.
> >
> >It is when you're cross-posting it to every fucking newsgroup on
> >usenet. When are you going to get it that no one gives a shit about
> >your insane ramblings, Dockery? Pick a newsgroup and inflict yourself
> >on it exclusively. Leave the rest of us to hate your guts in peace,
> >from a great, great distance.
>
> garbage. Go troll the Barry Manilow group some more, I see you've
> been thoroughly spanked in the Doors group. See ya, fatass. Not.
> And quit switching your nym to get around kill-filters, that's a
> classic trolling maneuver.
The more things change the more... Pat's ass expands, eh?
--
The Netherlands/Shadowville cross cultural exchange
Thomas Giarmo
> Thanks, Patty.
>
> When I want your advice I'll /ask/ for it, though.
>
> Don't hold your breath.
Will, what that conjures!
http://www.denisenickerson.com/gallery/pages/w-blue.html
--
Tom
Thomas Giarmo
> The more things change the more... Pat's ass expands, eh?
She bought heavily into Spandex,,,,,with her earnings from her 3rd hand
horseshit book. rotflmao
--
Tom
Will Dockery
"Thomas Giarmo" wrote
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Patty.
> >
> > When I want your advice I'll /ask/ for it, though.
> >
> > Don't hold your breath.
>
> Will, what that conjures!
>
> http://www.denisenickerson.com/gallery/pages/w-blue.html
Heh.
Will Dockery
"Thomas Giarmo" wrote
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > The more things change the more... Pat's ass expands, eh?
>
> She bought heavily into Spandex,,,,,with her earnings from her 3rd hand
> horseshit book. rotflmao
Any truth that she fucked Val Kilmer, mistaking him for Morrison?
Thomas Giarmo
>>> The more things change the more... Pat's ass expands, eh?
>>
>> She bought heavily into Spandex,,,,,with her earnings from her 3rd hand
>> horseshit book. rotflmao
>
> Any truth that she fucked Val Kilmer, mistaking him for Morrison?
I Googled for that, apparently The Loverly Jane Asher's Vagina has Ms.
Buttler, er, Butler and her having a conversation where Ms. Butler so
claims. Not only that, but she shared heroin (needles anyway) with Pamela
Courson. How old would that make Butler, 55?
--
Tom
Will Dockery
Again, most likely as case of the confused fatass shooting up with the
/actress/ that /played/ PC in the Oliver Stone film, where Pat first
learned of Morrison, et al?
Thomas Giarmo
> Thomas Giarmo wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>>>> The more things change the more... Pat's ass expands, eh?
>>>>
>>>> She bought heavily into Spandex,,,,,with her earnings from her 3rd hand
>>>> horseshit book. rotflmao
>>>
>>> Any truth that she fucked Val Kilmer, mistaking him for Morrison?
>>
>> I Googled for that, apparently The Loverly Jane Asher's Vagina has Ms.
>> Buttler, er, Butler and her having a conversation where Ms. Butler so
>> claims. Not only that, but she shared heroin (needles anyway) with Pamela
>> Courson. How old would that make Butler, 55?
>
> Again, most likely as case of the confused fatass shooting up with the
> /actress/ that /played/ PC in the Oliver Stone film, where Pat first
> learned of Morrison, et al?
Yes, Will, she lives in and for the movies. I hear tell she has a
plastercaster of Barry Manilow's butt poker too.
--
Tom
Will Dockery
Word is she keeps it with her collection of pertrified salami.
Thomas Giarmo
>>>> I Googled for that, apparently The Loverly Jane Asher's Vagina has Ms.
>>>> Buttler, er, Butler and her having a conversation where Ms. Butler so
>>>> claims. Not only that, but she shared heroin (needles anyway) with Pamela
>>>> Courson. How old would that make Butler, 55?
>>>
>>> Again, most likely as case of the confused fatass shooting up with the
>>> /actress/ that /played/ PC in the Oliver Stone film, where Pat first
>>> learned of Morrison, et al?
>>
>> Yes, Will, she lives in and for the movies. I hear tell she has a
>> plastercaster of Barry Manilow's butt poker too.
>
> Word is she keeps it with her collection of pertrified salami.
If I was a salami headed for Ms. Butler's *Not* So Loverly Vagina, I'd be
petrified too.
--
Tom
Will Dockery
Heh. "Shrinkage May Vary".
Dennis M. Hammes
There was a little girl
Who had a little whirl
Right in the middle of his fine craph'le.
When it was good,
It was very, very good,
'Til Dockery was replaced with a pineapple.
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Me and God have the perfect thing going. I don't give a shit
about him and he doesn't give a shit about me. -- Jade
http://scrawlmark.org
Will Dockery
j r sherman wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Yeah, that's my style, in art and life.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Where did I write that anyone should aspire to /anything/?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>shouldn't an artist aspire to be better with each new project.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>That's up to the artist, JRS.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>to not aspire to be better than the last thing you did? what's the fucking point
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>of doing it? why do it at all if you're not going to try harder each time?
> >>
> >>>>so you truly think that it's perfectly ok to never strive harder, be
> >>>
> >>>better than
> >>>
> >>>>the last time, always try to be better than you were before?
> >>>
> >>>There's always room for improvement.
> >>
> >>indeed, so much room for improvement
> >>>
> >>>What a jeering no-talent twit /you/ are.
> >>
> >>but dockery, my work, while certainly not great, has been praised a number of
> >>times.
Heh. And so you stopped writing to /punish/ them?
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j r sherman
says...
>
>
>
>j r sherman wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>Yeah, that's my style, in art and life.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>Where did I write that anyone should aspire to /anything/?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>shouldn't an artist aspire to be better with each new project.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>That's up to the artist, JRS.
>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>to not aspire to be better than the last thing you did? what's the fucking
>>point
>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>of doing it? why do it at all if you're not going to try harder each time?
>> >>
>> >>>>so you truly think that it's perfectly ok to never strive harder, be
>> >>>
>> >>>better than
>> >>>
>> >>>>the last time, always try to be better than you were before?
>> >>>
>> >>>There's always room for improvement.
>> >>
>> >>indeed, so much room for improvement
>> >>>
>> >>>What a jeering no-talent twit /you/ are.
>> >>
>>>>but dockery, my work, while certainly not great, has been praised a number of
>> >>times.
>
>Heh. And so you stopped writing to /punish/ them?
but i haven't stopped writing at all. i told you, you incredibly stupid cracker,
i create every day. you wish you could say the same thing, and you can't.
just because you can't find it or see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
please don't tell me that you're shocked to discover that there isn't a person
on this earth that feels your opinion is worth listening to? that's pretty sad.
anyway, why not answer my question, why was it so important for you to lie about
having read my poem when you hadn't read it at all? what kind of pathetic needs
compels someone to lie about something like that?
what a sad, little man you are.
Will Dockery
>>
>> Where did I write that anyone should aspire to /anything/?
>>
> >> shouldn't an artist aspire to be better with each new project.
> >>
> >> >That's up to the artist, JRS.
> >> >
> >>>>>to not aspire to be better than the last thing you did? what's the
fucking point of doing it? why do it at all if you're not going to try
harder each time? so you truly think that it's perfectly ok to never strive
harder, be
> >> >>>
> >> >>>better than the last time, always try to be better than you were
before?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>There's always room for improvement.
> >> >>
> >> >>
number of
> >> >>times.
> >
> >Heh. And so you stopped writing to /punish/ them?
>
> but i haven't stopped writing at all.
So, why not post a poem?
Bad Bad Leroy Brown
> Joy Twitcuntry wrote:
> > "Dan" <D...@Highway29.net> wrote
> > >>>"Thomas Giarmo" wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>>Hello, Tom--- I read earlier that you're a pal of JAV's.
> > >>>
> > >>>No converse that I recall.
> > >>>
> > >>>I assumed it was chuck, and killfiled...
> > >>
> > >> I was writing to Tom Giarmo, not you, Tom Bishop/Joy/et al.
> > >>
> > >> You've claimed to have me killfiled anyhow, but we all know how /that/
> > >> works with the Bishop and his confused multiples.
> >
> > Will, you aren't interested in my understanding of poetry,
>
> Actually, I'm very interested. In fact, I've used what I learned from
> you by studying the rewrite process you went through on "Skirt Of
> Printed Sunflowers" with "Pastel Hollarings" for the newly rewritten
> poem "Pastel Mythology", which just went into print yesterday in PGMag
> <http://www.playgroundsmag.com> the local "arts" monthly here in
> Shadowville. The first of my new poems I consider /ready/.
>
> In addition, I learned from your poem "Spring", through the exchange
> between you and Dale Houstman recently, where he took /that/ poem and
> rewrote it as "Milk Cannisters" or somesuch. That, and his masterful
> "Her Lark Colony" has been useful to study in working with the poem
> "Scorpioman In Trashcanland", which I hope to have ready by the August
> issue.
>
> This stuff will be /reflected/ here, eventually, but /real life/ and my
> /real aufdience/, the People of Shadowville, come first, of course.
>
> > and
> > to have you in my browser means letting in BC, jr, Dale, peewee, 'ennis, etc...
> > (which is most of your traffic.) I'll have to pass.
> >
> > If you could killfile more of them, perhaps.
>
> BC and Boss I can almost always ignore, JRS I like to spar with, and
> there's too much left to learn from Uncle Dennis and Cousin Dale... you
> can always have a look from time to time when you're slumming in
> Google, and give me a shout out if the need arises... stuff 'em Tom.
>
> > >>>>>Here's the poem mentioned, by JAV, and the comments on the assumption among
> > >>>>>the poetry newsgroups cabal that JAV was actually Tom Bishop
> > >>>
> > >>>I'm pretty willing to admit to my socks.
> > >>>
> > >>>JAV was not one of them, but not like I care
> > >>>if you believe me.
> > >>>
> > >>>I am totally certain you could never prove it, not that
> > >>>even that is an issue.
> > >>
> > >> I never thought you were Vagina /or/ Sword. My point was that many
> > >> people did, and in Houstman's case, still /do/.
> >
> > Houstman is a baby.
>
> Dale's mild mannered poet turned Hasty Pudding by the preassures of
> non-stop cabal slurping.
>
> > >> The sound of a leaking killfile.
> >
> > There are lots of people that I never talk to again.
>
> Cute kitties... I showed 'em to Orson and Dingy.
> --
> The Netherlands/Shadowville cross cultural exchange
>
> "Greybeard Cavalier" [0x0000/Fowler/Dockery]
> <http://www.lulu.com/items/volume_1/26000/26663/1/preview/Track__1.mp3>
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