Edmond Wollmann's Spring 2000 Exhibit
Edmond H. Wollmann
An artbook site will be online soon!
--
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
Š 2000 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
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el...@no.spam
Edmond H. Wollmann <woll...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>An artbook site will be online soon!
Too bad you haven't been able to sell any of your shitty "art," Edie. Maybe
if you did, you'd be able to afford to post from home and perhaps pay Susan
back some of the $1000 you owe her.
Spamster_<"uce"@ftc.göv>
"Edmond H. Wollmann" wrote:
> http://www.astroInsulting.com/personal/gallery8.htm
>
> An artbook site will be online soon!
>
BFD!
Widdershins
<woll...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/gallery8.htm
>
>An artbook site will be online soon!
Why not tell somebody who gives a fuck, Eddieeeeeee?
Widdershins
Skepticult Member #159-904378-909
My inner child is a mean little fucker.
Avital Pilpel
> http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/gallery8.htm
In my view, the falcon picture is pretty decent, but the rest are pretty
lame...
...buuuuut, what the hell do I know about art?
Avital Pilpel
Cujo
"Edmond H. Wollmann" <woll...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:8hgsg3$ejv$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> http://www.astroidiot.com/personal/gallery8.htm <-De-Kookified!!!
>
> An artbook site will be online soon!
Seeing's how you didn't sell shit at that last sidewalk sale, what makes you
think this will fare any better?
Sorry, but mediocre art isn't going to sell.
How much *did* your Aunt buy?
--
Take some vitamins, get some excercise,
and try to build up your perceptions,
critical thinking and powers of
observation. Then come back and play
with us big boys. - Ed on a power trip.
~T
Cujo wrote in message <8hh2ap$9nm$1...@m3t00.databasix.com>...
Crayola chalk.
David Hall
Edmond Heinz Wollmann, convicted in San Diego on 6/28/98 of a
misdemeanor (PC 555- Unlawful Entry), fined, and placed on probation,
sued for Unlawful Detainer and evicted in 3/96, past violator of Federal
and State game laws for abusing wildlife, and remorseless confessed
killer of someone's child, and remarkably cowardly yellow bellied pussy
who didn't show up for lunch at PF Chang's even though it was only five
minutes from his place and after he claimed he would meet people there
with a police escort wrote:
> An [f]artbook site will be online soon!
Your "art" stinks, buddy.
667 (The neighbor of the Beast)
<woll...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> http://www.astrocons.com/nopersonality/masturb8.htm
>
>A kookbook site will be online soon!
Sounds about right.
667
Avital Pilpel
> http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/gallery8.htm
>
> An artbook site will be online soon!
I'll bet Ed thought that nobody would notice, but his "space" painting was
actually copied (pretty badly) from the cover art of Kip Thorne's book,
"Black holes and time warps: Einstein's outrageous legacy" (by the way, I
recommend that superb book to anybody remotely interested in physics or
cosmology, and the illustration looks much better in life than in amazon's
ditzy .gif image.)
Compare:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0393312763.01.LZZZZZZZ.gif
(Or, if the link doesn't work, go to amazon.com, search for Thorne's book,
and click on the cover's picture or on "larger image".)
With:
http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/8b.htm
It seems that Ed's most realistic art is done when he copies pictures from
other books. I have no doubt, for example, that most of his animal
pictures (such as picture "8d" in the same gallery) are copies from other
books, as well. When he tries to actually do something ORIGINAL, however, the
quality of the painting goes WAY down.
Typical to Ed's rather "leechy" mentality, there isn't the slightest
notice, on any of his art pages, telling us which painting are original
and which are merely copies of previous paintings - to say nothing of
actually giving credit to the original illustrator or artist he copied
from.
In this, Ed is acting in character: his book is full of VERY long quotes
from other books, to say nothing of illustrations and photographs printed
without permission or credit, and his web site has .mp3 files of music
that he does not own, violating the musicianss' copyright. It's just not
Ed's method to ask for something when he can steal it.
The best guide to whether or not a work on Ed's page is original or not,
ask yourself: "is it horredously ugly?" If it is, it's probably an
original Wollman. For example, THIS artistic chernobyl:
http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/8c.htm
Was probably NOT stolen from anybody, don't you think?
Avital Pilpel
Cujo
Avital Pilpel wrote in message ...
>On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Edmond H. Wollmann wrote:
>
>> http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/gallery8.htm
>>
>> An artbook site will be online soon!
>
>I'll bet Ed thought that nobody would notice, but his "space" painting was
>actually copied (pretty badly) from the cover art of Kip Thorne's book,
>"Black holes and time warps: Einstein's outrageous legacy" (by the way, I
>recommend that superb book to anybody remotely interested in physics or
>cosmology, and the illustration looks much better in life than in amazon's
>ditzy .gif image.)
>
>Compare:
>
>http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0393312763.01.LZZZZZZZ.gif
>
>(Or, if the link doesn't work, go to amazon.com, search for Thorne's book,
>and click on the cover's picture or on "larger image".)
>
>With:
>
>http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/8b.htm
Hate to disagree with you on this one but it's a little closer to spray
paint art that you can buy in Tijuana for 10 bucks a pop. It's quite good
and far better than Ed's crap. They use no brushes and it comes out quite
well. I have one myself. It's quite fascinating to watch one being made.
Mostly outer space themes, but I'm sure a special request can be
accomodated.
These guys make some real good cash, about 10 minutes for each and they sell
all their work. I figure these guys clear 400 bucks a day cash each day,
which Ed probably doesn't do in a year.
How does it serve Ed to be a failure at everything? It *is* the reality he
created. I guess his 'counseling' is just as worthless unless you're a Navy
General.
---
Take some vitamins, get some excercise [sic], and try to
build up your perceptions, critical thinking and powers of
observation. Then come back and play with us big boys.
Ed on a delusional power trip.
jfred
> On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Edmond H. Wollmann wrote:
>
> > http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/gallery8.htm
> >
> > An artbook site will be online soon!
>
> I'll bet Ed thought that nobody would notice, but his "space" painting was
> actually copied (pretty badly) from the cover art of Kip Thorne's book,
> "Black holes and time warps: Einstein's outrageous legacy" (by the way, I
> recommend that superb book to anybody remotely interested in physics or
> cosmology, and the illustration looks much better in life than in amazon's
> ditzy .gif image.)
>
> Compare:
>
> http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0393312763.01.LZZZZZZZ.gif
>
> (Or, if the link doesn't work, go to amazon.com, search for Thorne's book,
> and click on the cover's picture or on "larger image".)
>
> With:
>
> http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/8b.htm
>
> It seems that Ed's most realistic art is done when he copies pictures from
> other books. I have no doubt, for example, that most of his animal
> pictures (such as picture "8d" in the same gallery) are copies from other
> books, as well. When he tries to actually do something ORIGINAL, however, the
> quality of the painting goes WAY down.
>
> Typical to Ed's rather "leechy" mentality, there isn't the slightest
> notice, on any of his art pages, telling us which painting are original
> and which are merely copies of previous paintings - to say nothing of
> actually giving credit to the original illustrator or artist he copied
> from.
>
> In this, Ed is acting in character: his book is full of VERY long quotes
> from other books, to say nothing of illustrations and photographs printed
> without permission or credit, and his web site has .mp3 files of music
> that he does not own, violating the musicianss' copyright. It's just not
> Ed's method to ask for something when he can steal it.
>
> The best guide to whether or not a work on Ed's page is original or not,
> ask yourself: "is it horredously ugly?" If it is, it's probably an
> original Wollman. For example, THIS artistic chernobyl:
>
> http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/8c.htm
>
> Was probably NOT stolen from anybody, don't you think?
Avital,
You rule!
Good call!
~T
Avital Pilpel wrote in message ...
>
Cripes. He will next be tracing "Dogs Playing Poker" and claiming they are
original works of art, not to mention "Elvis on Black Velvet". I bet EHW
would be a world class Limbo'er, he can sink lower than anyone else.
Will Self
Avital Pilpel wrote:
>
> On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Edmond H. Wollmann wrote:
>
> > http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/gallery8.htm
> >
> > An artbook site will be online soon!
>
> I'll bet Ed thought that nobody would notice, but his "space" painting was
> actually copied (pretty badly) from the cover art of Kip Thorne's book,
> "Black holes and time warps: Einstein's outrageous legacy" (by the way, I
> recommend that superb book to anybody remotely interested in physics or
> cosmology, and the illustration looks much better in life than in amazon's
> ditzy .gif image.)
>
> Compare:
>
> http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0393312763.01.LZZZZZZZ.gif
>
> (Or, if the link doesn't work, go to amazon.com, search for Thorne's book,
> and click on the cover's picture or on "larger image".)
>
> With:
>
> http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/8b.htm
[...]
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
ED! You fuckin' DICK!
You stealin' ASSHOLE!
You STOLE and COPIED that art, you untalented son of a BITCH!
No acknowledgement! No credit!
Just the typical Ed Wollmann thievery!
Not just in black and white, but in COLOR!
That's COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT, BIIIIITCH!
el...@no.spam
Avital Pilpel <ap...@columbia.edu> wrote:
>> An artbook site will be online soon!
>I'll bet Ed thought that nobody would notice, but his "space" painting was
>actually copied (pretty badly) from the cover art of Kip Thorne's book,
>"Black holes and time warps: Einstein's outrageous legacy" (by the way, I
>recommend that superb book to anybody remotely interested in physics or
>cosmology, and the illustration looks much better in life than in amazon's
>ditzy .gif image.)
>
>Compare:
>
>http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0393312763.01.LZZZZZZZ.gif
>
>(Or, if the link doesn't work, go to amazon.com, search for Thorne's book,
>and click on the cover's picture or on "larger image".)
>
>With:
>
>http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/8b.htm
Damn, I knew he wasn't honest but that's really blatant. Living proof
that Edie is a thief!
Wally Anglesea™
wrote:
>On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Edmond H. Wollmann wrote:
>
>> http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/gallery8.htm
>>
>> An artbook site will be online soon!
>
>I'll bet Ed thought that nobody would notice, but his "space" painting was
>actually copied (pretty badly) from the cover art of Kip Thorne's book,
>"Black holes and time warps: Einstein's outrageous legacy" (by the way, I
>recommend that superb book to anybody remotely interested in physics or
>cosmology, and the illustration looks much better in life than in amazon's
>ditzy .gif image.)
>
>Compare:
>
>http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0393312763.01.LZZZZZZZ.gif
>
>(Or, if the link doesn't work, go to amazon.com, search for Thorne's book,
>and click on the cover's picture or on "larger image".)
>
>With:
>
>http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/8b.htm
>
>It seems that Ed's most realistic art is done when he copies pictures from
>other books. I have no doubt, for example, that most of his animal
>pictures (such as picture "8d" in the same gallery) are copies from other
>books, as well. When he tries to actually do something ORIGINAL, however, the
>quality of the painting goes WAY down.
<SNIP>
I have a copy of the original hardback. The picture is actually on
page 47, with the following description:
"P.5 The Quasar 3C273: a 2-billion-solar-mass black hole encircled by
a doughnut of gas ("accretion disk") and with two gigantic jets
shooting out along the holes spin axis"
Now Kip rather humorously included a "USS Enterprise" in the original
picture, but the "planetoid" on the right, and the "milky-way"
background are as per the original picture.
Credit should be given where credit is due.
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el...@no.spam
Wally Anglesea <wang...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>I have a copy of the original hardback.
<aol>Me too!</aol>
>Credit should be given where credit is due.
Theft should be punished. I wonder if edie used that piece for his
art class? If so, it looks like it could be a serious violation of
SDSU policy.
el...@no.spam
>ED! You fuckin' DICK!
>You stealin' ASSHOLE!
>You STOLE and COPIED that art, you untalented son of a BITCH!
>No acknowledgement! No credit!
>Just the typical Ed Wollmann thievery!
>Not just in black and white, but in COLOR!
>That's COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT, BIIIIITCH!
What he said!
Tiamat
wrote:
>On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Edmond H. Wollmann wrote:
>
>> http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/gallery8.htm
>>
>> An artbook site will be online soon!
>
>I'll bet Ed thought that nobody would notice, but his "space" painting was
>actually copied (pretty badly) from the cover art of Kip Thorne's book,
>"Black holes and time warps: Einstein's outrageous legacy" (by the way, I
>recommend that superb book to anybody remotely interested in physics or
>cosmology, and the illustration looks much better in life than in amazon's
>ditzy .gif image.)
>
>Compare:
>
>http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0393312763.01.LZZZZZZZ.gif
>
>(Or, if the link doesn't work, go to amazon.com, search for Thorne's book,
>and click on the cover's picture or on "larger image".)
>
>With:
>
>http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/8b.htm
Geez... the least he coulda done is reversed the angle of the plumes!
Ed's such a bad boy! Naughty, naughty!
j
Avital Pilpel
> Avital,
>
> You rule!
>
> Good call!
Well, it's more dumb luck than anything else - I just happened to have the
book...
Avital Pilpel
imediart
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el...@no.spam
Tiamat <xxqtzc...@xgox.com> wrote:
>>Compare:
>>
>>http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0393312763.01.LZZZZZZZ.gif
>>
>>(Or, if the link doesn't work, go to amazon.com, search for Thorne's book,
>>and click on the cover's picture or on "larger image".)
>>
>>With:
>>
>>http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/8b.htm
>Geez... the least he coulda done is reversed the angle of the plumes!
>Ed's such a bad boy! Naughty, naughty!
Maybe he can't even summon that little hint of originality.
S. Naviri
I was just thinking about that the other day; how many undetected
plagiarisms are there that Ed has done?
It's obvious he can't work up a natrual composition or perspective on
his own.
What a friggin rip-off artist...to the core!
a
Indeed! Contact information for the San Diego State University School
of Art Faculty can be found here:
http://art.sdsu.edu/art/general/facstaff/
I'm sure they would be interested to learn of their student's plagiarism.
Edmond, will you specify which instructor should be contacted, or should
they all be contacted just to be sure?
--
"Orion is a star." -- Edmond Wollmann, <36EF1B...@yahooo.com>
Avital Pilpel
> I was just thinking about that the other day; how many undetected
> plagiarisms are there that Ed has done?
In my view, just about ALL the good-looking art he posts (for some reason,
most of it is of birds, but also pictures of a snow bunny, a griffon,
etc.) are copies from ornithology or art books on the subject. They are
*so* much better than the rest of the art posted on his web site, that I
am almost certain that they are copies of better artists.
You can tell by the fact that all of the good-looking art on his pages has
as its subject the kind of subjects one can easily find and copy in art
books - e.g., animals, mystical beasts, etc.
But when Ed paints something that is his invention, and not easily found
in books (e.g., the "archetype" pictures, or the "view from the library"
ones, the Egyptian-themed ones), and thus is forced to paint from nature
or imagination, the quality of the pictures deteriorates completely.
Not *one* of Ed's pictures on personal subjects that cannot be found in
books is even *close* in quality to the ones with impersonal subjects
- the difference in quality is strikingly clear, and points to the sad
fact that, with all probability, *all* of the (relatively) good art on
Ed's pages is a ripoff of better artists copied from art books.
Ed's web pages have good and original art; the problem is, the good part
isn't original and the original part isn't good.
Avital Pilpel
el...@no.spam
Avital Pilpel <ap...@columbia.edu> wrote:
>In my view, just about ALL the good-looking art he posts (for some reason,
>most of it is of birds, but also pictures of a snow bunny, a griffon,
>etc.) are copies from ornithology or art books on the subject. They are
>*so* much better than the rest of the art posted on his web site, that I
>am almost certain that they are copies of better artists.
That's probably why I find them so uninspired. Not a hint of originality.
Edmond Wollmann
>
> On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Edmond H. Wollmann wrote:
>
> > http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/gallery8.htm
> >
> > An artbook site will be online soon!
>
> I'll bet Ed thought that nobody would notice, but his "space" painting was
> actually copied (pretty badly) from the cover art of Kip Thorne's book,
> "Black holes and time warps: Einstein's outrageous legacy" (by the way, I
> recommend that superb book to anybody remotely interested in physics or
> cosmology, and the illustration looks much better in life than in amazon's
> ditzy .gif image.)
>
>
> http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0393312763.01.LZZZZZZZ.gif
>
> (Or, if the link doesn't work, go to amazon.com, search for Thorne's book,
> and click on the cover's picture or on "larger image".)
>
> With:
>
> http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/8b.htm
>
> other books. I have no doubt, for example, that most of his animal
> pictures (such as picture "8d" in the same gallery) are copies from other
> books, as well. When he tries to actually do something ORIGINAL, however, the
> quality of the painting goes WAY down.
>
> notice, on any of his art pages, telling us which painting are original
> and which are merely copies of previous paintings - to say nothing of
> actually giving credit to the original illustrator or artist he copied
> from.
>
> In this, Ed is acting in character: his book is full of VERY long quotes
> from other books, to say nothing of illustrations and photographs printed
> without permission or credit, and his web site has .mp3 files of music
> that he does not own, violating the musicianss' copyright. It's just not
> Ed's method to ask for something when he can steal it.
>
> The best guide to whether or not a work on Ed's page is original or not,
> ask yourself: "is it horredously ugly?" If it is, it's probably an
> original Wollman. For example, THIS artistic chernobyl:
>
> http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/8c.htm
>
> Was probably NOT stolen from anybody, don't you think?
>
> Avital Pilpel
:-)))) Where's your work--of any sort-- spammer? Other than chasing
aroung people who intimidate you all day on usenet? Or is that your
work?
I am sure intelligent persons can see that you spinics chasing me for 5
years trying to run me down only PROVES I am all powerful in your
small-albeit joyless and accomplishment-less--world.
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/propagan.htm
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/charter.htm
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/abusive_isps_list.htm
It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the
strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them
better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena,
whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly,
who errs and comes up short again and again because there is no effort
without error and short-comings, who knows the great devotion, who
spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the
high achievement of triumph and who at worst, if he fails while daring
greatly, knows his place shall never be with those timid and cold souls
who know neither victory nor defeat. THEODORE ROOSEVELT, 26th U.S.
President
--
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2000 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/tableof.htm
Avital Pilpel
> :-)))) Where's your work--of any sort-- spammer?
Hmmmm... evading the point from the get-go. Got ya, didn't I?
> Other than chasing
> aroung people who intimidate you all day on usenet? Or is that your
> work?
No, Wollman, that's YOUR job - remember your actions of "threathening"
people with sending their posts to the FBI, suing them for "libel",
complaining to their ISPs... nothing ever came of that, now am I right,
Ed?
At least, that USED to be your jub until you lost so many internet
accounts that you can now only post in a very restricted way, so you can
no longer "send complaints to infinity- and increase", as you once said
you'll do.
> I am sure intelligent persons can see that you spinics chasing me for 5
> years trying to run me down only PROVES I am all powerful in your
> small-albeit joyless and accomplishment-less--world.
Right, Ed. Believe that if you want to. But you haven't answered the
point, now did you: Isn't it, in fact, the case that the better art on
your web page (the "space", "snow rabbit", "falcons", etc.) is merely
copied from other pictures? Isn't it the case that the best you can do on
your own without copying is to paint artistic chernobyls such as the
(ludicrous) "self-portrait", the "archetype" stuff, and so on?
> http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/abusive_isps_list.htm
By all means, GO to that list and see who the "abusive ISPs" are. I'm
sure Apple and Bellsouth are CRUSHED by your powerful inclusion of them as
abusive ISPs, not to mention AOL, Mindspring, etc...
> It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the
> strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them
> better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena,
> whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly,
> who errs and comes up short again and again because there is no effort
> without error and short-comings,
Pardon me, mr. "effort", but aren't YOU the gut who recently claimed that
the universe owes you "happiness and plenty" *just because you exist*???
P.S.
Copying (badly) other people's art and posting it as your own is not
"striving valiantly" or "effort". It's "stealing".
> who knows the great devotion, who
> spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the
> high achievement of triumph and who at worst, if he fails while daring
> greatly, knows his place shall never be with those timid and cold souls
> who know neither victory nor defeat.
You are certainly not one of those who do not know what defeat is, THAT'S
for damn sure...
Avital Pilpel
Widdershins
>:-)))) Where's your work--of any sort-- spammer? Other than chasing
>aroung people who intimidate you all day on usenet? Or is that your
>work?
>I am sure intelligent persons can see that you spinics chasing me for 5
>years trying to run me down only PROVES I am all powerful in your
>small-albeit joyless and accomplishment-less--world.
>
http://www.smbtech.com/ed/
http://lart.com/ed/
>
>It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the
>strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them
>better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena,
>whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly,
>who errs and comes up short again and again because there is no effort
>without error and short-comings, who knows the great devotion, who
>spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the
>high achievement of triumph and who at worst, if he fails while daring
>greatly, knows his place shall never be with those timid and cold souls
>who know neither victory nor defeat. THEODORE ROOSEVELT, 26th U.S.
>President
So, Eddieeeeeee, it looks as though you aren't going to
deny you ripped off someone else's work, and claimed it
as your own. As with your POS book, also with your POS
art works.
BTW that picture of the knight is out of period for Arthur.
Current scholarship places the rise of his legends at around the
time of the withdrawal of the Romans from Britain. Also, crested helms
were mainly for ceremonial purposes. They change the balance
of the helm, and allowed weapons to be caught in it, thus unseating
knight. In a battle, that would make him vulnerable to attack from
common foot soldiers. Not something any chevalier relishes.
Next time try looking at more than one source for your inspiration.
The Mennisinger illuminations were more a portrayal of the arms
of the combatants, than an effort to depict actual combat armoring
conventions.
No, no, there's no need to thank me.
Edmond Wollmann
>
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
>
Reverse psychology doesn't work on someone more insightful than
yourself.
Why can't you answer? Where's your work for us to critique?
Edmond Wollmann
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> On Thu, 08 Jun 2000 14:11:31 -0700, Edmond Wollmann
> <e...@astroconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> >Avital Pilpel wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> >>
> >> > :-)))) Where's your work--of any sort-- spammer?
> >>
> >> Hmmmm... evading the point from the get-go. Got ya, didn't I?
> >
> >Reverse psychology doesn't work on someone more insightful than
> >yourself.
> >Why can't you answer? Where's your work for us to critique?
>
> So, you're not going to deny you stole the work of someone else,
> and claimed it for yourself.
>
> My guess is that Avital has neither the time, nor the inclination
> to plagiarize someone else's stuff.
>
> Widdershins
>
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Convicted criminal Edmond Wollmann <art....@astroconsulting.com> wrote:
>Reverse psychology doesn't work on someone more insightful than
>yourself.
Why is that relevant? You certainly don't fit.
JovianII
Edmond Heinz Wollmann, convicted in San Diego on 6/28/98 of a
misdemeanor (PC 555- Unlawful Entry), fined, and placed on probation,
sued for Unlawful Detainer and evicted in 3/96, past violator of Federal
and State game laws for abusing wildlife, remorseless confessed killer
of someone's child, remarkably cowardly yellow bellied pussy who didn't
show up for lunch at PF Chang's even though it was only five minutes
from his place and after he claimed he would meet people there with a
police escort, and thieving dishonest untalented unoriginal fuckhead who
was caught red-handed trying to pass off a bad copy of a painting as his
own original composition wrote:
>
> Avital Pilpel wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> >
> > > :-)))) Where's your work--of any sort-- spammer?
> >
> > Hmmmm... evading the point from the get-go. Got ya, didn't I?
>
> yourself.
It's not reverse psychology, asshole.
You evaded his questions about your blatant plagiarism and thievery.
> Why can't you answer?
Your turn first, you thieving, remorseless killer.
>Where's your work for us to critique?
That's for him to know and you to find out, BITCH!
Why'd you try to pass off a copyright violation and plagiarism as your
own work, thief?
Cujo
"Edmond Wollmann" <e...@astroconsulting.com> wrote in message
news:393FF3...@astroconsulting.com...
>Where's your work--of any sort-- spammer? Other than chasing
> aroung people who intimidate you all day on usenet? Or is that your
> work?
I see that Ed still can't spell 'entertain'.
> I am sure intelligent persons can see that you spinics chasing me for 5
> years trying to run me down only PROVES I am all powerful in your
> small-albeit joyless and accomplishment-less--world.
Laughing at a talentless plagiarist and proving it is not exactly chasing
you around. Let's run down your accomplishments instead:
At least 15 accounts nuked.
A self-published vanity book that is a piece of shit.
Plagiarized artwork passed off as originals.
Bankruptcy.
Eviction.
Scamming women for money.
Mooching off elderly relatives.
I could go on, but even a kook like you can get the picture. Mmmmm, maybe
not! Let's see you add some lawsuits in for good measure.
Cujo
"Doktor Pete" <dok@!uce.lart.com> wrote in message
news:8holke$kqi$7...@mews.databasix.com...
> In <sjrao0c...@news.supernews.com>, monkey see, el...@no.spam () do:
>
> >In article
<Pine.GSO.4.10.100060...@aloha.cc.columbia.edu>,
> >Avital Pilpel <ap...@columbia.edu> wrote:
> >
> >>> An artbook site will be online soon!
> >
> >>I'll bet Ed thought that nobody would notice, but his "space" painting
was
> >>actually copied (pretty badly) from the cover art of Kip Thorne's book,
> >>"Black holes and time warps: Einstein's outrageous legacy" (by the way,
I
> >>recommend that superb book to anybody remotely interested in physics or
> >>cosmology, and the illustration looks much better in life than in
amazon's
> >>ditzy .gif image.)
> >>
> >>Compare:
> >>
> >>http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0393312763.01.LZZZZZZZ.gif
> >>
> >>(Or, if the link doesn't work, go to amazon.com, search for Thorne's
book,
> >>and click on the cover's picture or on "larger image".)
> >>
> >>With:
> >>
> >>http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/8b.htm
> >
> >that Edie is a thief!
>
"literary"
> exploits? What a fraud! That's a thoroughly sleazy and out of integrity
> thing to do.
He's strangely quiet on this one! Good job!
Doktor Pete
>In article <Pine.GSO.4.10.100060...@aloha.cc.columbia.edu>,
>Avital Pilpel <ap...@columbia.edu> wrote:
>
>>> An artbook site will be online soon!
>
>>I'll bet Ed thought that nobody would notice, but his "space" painting was
>>actually copied (pretty badly) from the cover art of Kip Thorne's book,
>>"Black holes and time warps: Einstein's outrageous legacy" (by the way, I
>>recommend that superb book to anybody remotely interested in physics or
>>cosmology, and the illustration looks much better in life than in amazon's
>>ditzy .gif image.)
>>
>>Compare:
>>
>>http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0393312763.01.LZZZZZZZ.gif
>>
>>(Or, if the link doesn't work, go to amazon.com, search for Thorne's book,
>>and click on the cover's picture or on "larger image".)
>>
>>With:
>>
>>http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/8b.htm
>
>Damn, I knew he wasn't honest but that's really blatant. Living proof
>that Edie is a thief!
So Eddie's fondness for plagiarism isn't solely restricted to his "literary"
exploits? What a fraud! That's a thoroughly sleazy and out of integrity
thing to do.
--
"Mankind was born free, and is everywhere in chainstores."
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jfred
> Avital Pilpel wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> >
> > > :-)))) Where's your work--of any sort-- spammer?
> >
> > Hmmmm... evading the point from the get-go. Got ya, didn't I?
>
> Reverse psychology doesn't work
Hey, stupid! You mean to tell us you've been "studying psychology" for
[how many?] years, and you think THAT was "reverse psychology?"
Give me a fucking break! ROTFLOL!
> on someone more insightful than yourself.
If the someone was more insightful than Avital, he wouldn't have claimed
that he was trying to use "reverse psychology!"
> Why can't you answer? Where's your work for us to critique?
That's irrelevant, Edmo. Avital's work has nothing to do with *your*
theft of the work of others.
--
jfred
Habent Abdenda Omnes Praeter Me ac Simiam Meam
jfred
> In article <39400C...@astroconsulting.com>,
> Convicted criminal Edmond Wollmann <art....@astroconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> >Reverse psychology doesn't work on someone more insightful than
> >yourself.
>
> Why is that relevant? You certainly don't fit.
But he's having one.
jfred
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> > :-)))) Where's your work--of any sort-- spammer?
>
> Hmmmm... evading the point from the get-go. Got ya, didn't I?
>
> > Other than chasing
> > aroung people who intimidate you all day on usenet? Or is that your
> > work?
>
> No, Wollman, that's YOUR job - remember your actions of "threathening"
> people with sending their posts to the FBI, suing them for "libel",
> complaining to their ISPs... nothing ever came of that, now am I right,
> Ed?
>
> At least, that USED to be your jub until you lost so many internet
> accounts that you can now only post in a very restricted way, so you can
> no longer "send complaints to infinity- and increase", as you once said
> you'll do.
>
> > I am sure intelligent persons can see that you spinics chasing me for 5
> > years trying to run me down only PROVES I am all powerful in your
> > small-albeit joyless and accomplishment-less--world.
>
> Right, Ed. Believe that if you want to. But you haven't answered the
> point, now did you: Isn't it, in fact, the case that the better art on
> your web page (the "space", "snow rabbit", "falcons", etc.) is merely
> copied from other pictures? Isn't it the case that the best you can do on
> your own without copying is to paint artistic chernobyls such as the
> (ludicrous) "self-portrait", the "archetype" stuff, and so on?
>
> > http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/abusive_isps_list.htm
>
> By all means, GO to that list and see who the "abusive ISPs" are. I'm
> sure Apple and Bellsouth are CRUSHED by your powerful inclusion of them as
> abusive ISPs, not to mention AOL, Mindspring, etc...
>
> > It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the
> > strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them
> > better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena,
> > whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly,
> > who errs and comes up short again and again because there is no effort
> > without error and short-comings,
>
> Pardon me, mr. "effort", but aren't YOU the gut who recently claimed that
> the universe owes you "happiness and plenty" *just because you exist*???
>
> P.S.
>
> Copying (badly) other people's art and posting it as your own is not
> "striving valiantly" or "effort". It's "stealing".
>
> > who knows the great devotion, who
> > spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the
> > high achievement of triumph and who at worst, if he fails while daring
> > greatly, knows his place shall never be with those timid and cold souls
> > who know neither victory nor defeat.
>
> You are certainly not one of those who do not know what defeat is, THAT'S
> for damn sure...
Here, Edmo! See if this helps!
de0feat (d<-fTt2) tr.v. de0feat0ed, de0feat0ing, de0feats.
1. To win victory over; beat.
2. To prevent the success of; thwart.
3. Law. To make void; annul.
-de0feat n.
1. The act of defeating or state of being defeated.
2. Failure to win.
3. A coming to naught; frustration.
4. Law. The act of making null and void. -de0feat2er n.
theft (thRft) n.
1. The act or an instance of stealing; larceny.
2. Obsolete. Something stolen.
steal (stTl) v. stole (stÅl), sto0len (stÅ2lún), steal0ing, steals.
-tr.
1. To take (the property of another) without right or permission.
2. To get or effect surreptitiously or artfully.
3. To move, carry, or place surreptitiously.
4. To draw attention unexpectedly in (an entertainment), especially by
being the outstanding performer.
5. Baseball. To advance safely to (another base) during the delivery of
a pitch, without the aid of a base hit, walk, passed ball, or wild
pitch.
-intr.
1. To commit theft.
2. To move, happen, or elapse stealthily or unobtrusively.
3. Baseball. To steal a base.
-steal n.
1. The act of stealing.
2. Slang. A bargain.
anonym™
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> Avital Pilpel wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Edmond H. Wollmann wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/gallery8.htm
> > >
> > > An artbook site will be online soon!
> >
> > I'll bet Ed thought that nobody would notice, but his "space" painting was
> > actually copied (pretty badly) from the cover art of Kip Thorne's book,
> > "Black holes and time warps: Einstein's outrageous legacy" (by the way, I
> > recommend that superb book to anybody remotely interested in physics or
> > cosmology, and the illustration looks much better in life than in amazon's
> > ditzy .gif image.)
> >
> > Compare:
> >
> > http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0393312763.01.LZZZZZZZ.gif
> >
> > (Or, if the link doesn't work, go to amazon.com, search for Thorne's book,
> > and click on the cover's picture or on "larger image".)
> >
> > With:
> >
> > http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/8b.htm
> >
> > It seems that Ed's most realistic art is done when he copies pictures from
> > other books. I have no doubt, for example, that most of his animal
> > pictures (such as picture "8d" in the same gallery) are copies from other
> > books, as well. When he tries to actually do something ORIGINAL, however, the
> > quality of the painting goes WAY down.
> >
> > Typical to Ed's rather "leechy" mentality, there isn't the slightest
> > notice, on any of his art pages, telling us which painting are original
> > and which are merely copies of previous paintings - to say nothing of
> > actually giving credit to the original illustrator or artist he copied
> > from.
> >
> > In this, Ed is acting in character: his book is full of VERY long quotes
> > from other books, to say nothing of illustrations and photographs printed
> > without permission or credit, and his web site has .mp3 files of music
> > that he does not own, violating the musicianss' copyright. It's just not
> > Ed's method to ask for something when he can steal it.
> >
> > The best guide to whether or not a work on Ed's page is original or not,
> > ask yourself: "is it horredously ugly?" If it is, it's probably an
> > original Wollman. For example, THIS artistic chernobyl:
> >
> > http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/8c.htm
> >
> > Was probably NOT stolen from anybody, don't you think?
> >
> > Avital Pilpel
>
> :-)))) Where's your work--of any sort--
It actually took very little work to find an example of your
outrageously stupid and blatant plagiarism, dickface.
You bragged about killing another human being and expressed no remorse
about it.
A fucking sociopath like you is unlikely to feel any shame or guilt for
stealing someone else's artwork and claiming it as your won.
You suck so bad you didn't even do the artwork for the cover of your own
piece of shit book!
~T
Cujo wrote in message <8hot3e$2pg$1...@mews.databasix.com>...
>
>"Edmond Wollmann" <e...@astroconsulting.com> wrote in message
>news:393FF3...@astroconsulting.com...
>> aroung people who intimidate you all day on usenet? Or is that your
>> work?
>
>I see that Ed still can't spell 'entertain'.
>
>> years trying to run me down only PROVES I am all powerful in your
>> small-albeit joyless and accomplishment-less--world.
>
>you around. Let's run down your accomplishments instead:
>At least 15 accounts nuked.
>A self-published vanity book that is a piece of shit.
>Plagiarized artwork passed off as originals.
>Bankruptcy.
>Eviction.
>Scamming women for money.
>Mooching off elderly relatives.
>I could go on, but even a kook like you can get the picture. Mmmmm, maybe
>not! Let's see you add some lawsuits in for good measure.
>
>
Cujo
Edmond Wollmann whined in message <39400C...@astroconsulting.com>...
>Avital Pilpel wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>>
>>
>
>yourself.
So you using it is a lesson in self-defeat.
>Why can't you answer? Where's your work for us to critique?
Why can't you defend your plagiarism first, changing the subject isn't going
to work, Kook!
Cujo
Bob Officer wrote in message <3945503d...@news.remarq.com>...
>>aroung people who intimidate you all day on usenet? Or is that your
>
>Well then there is the question of Where is YOUR art work Edmond? Not
>someone else's work. Maybe Avital likes looking at art work not
>everyone is talented, and very few stoop to steal someone else's work
>and claim it as their own.
>
>>I am sure intelligent persons can see that you spinics chasing me for 5
>>years trying to run me down only PROVES I am all powerful in your
>>small-albeit joyless and accomplishment-less--world.
>
>
>>http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/stolen_artwork.htm
>>http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/unenforable_charter.htm
>>http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/list_of_isps_that_ignore_me.htm
>>
>>It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the
>>strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them
>>better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena,
>
>work is better than the original work?
It is really not shameful to *practice* by using somebody elses work. It is
shameful to publish or post your work based on someone elses labors and not
attribute it properly. Ed has just been a complete and utter fuckmonkey and
hasn't the guts to admit it. I hope the 'art proffessors' will see this next
semester and revise their opinion of the kook.
I'll see what I can do to ferret out the names.
---
Take some vitamins, get some excercise [sic], and try to
build up your perceptions, critical thinking and powers of
observation. Then come back and play with us big boys.
Ed on a delusional power trip.
£ord Ha-Ha
>In article <8holke$kqi$7...@mews.databasix.com>, dok@!uce.lart.com (Doktor
>Pete) logged on, tripped an Echelon filter, had it intercepted and relayed
>through a secure NSA mail server, who in turn posted it to Fluffy's
>Usenet:
>
>> In <sjrao0c...@news.supernews.com>, monkey see, el...@no.spam () do:
>>
>> >In article <Pine.GSO.4.10.100060...@aloha.cc.columbia.edu>,
>> >Avital Pilpel <ap...@columbia.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> >>> An artbook site will be online soon!
>> >
>> >>I'll bet Ed thought that nobody would notice, but his "space" painting was
>> >>actually copied (pretty badly) from the cover art of Kip Thorne's book,
>> >>"Black holes and time warps: Einstein's outrageous legacy" (by the way, I
>> >>recommend that superb book to anybody remotely interested in physics or
>> >>cosmology, and the illustration looks much better in life than in amazon's
>> >>ditzy .gif image.)
>> >>
>> >>Compare:
>> >>
>> >>http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0393312763.01.LZZZZZZZ.gif
>> >>
>> >>(Or, if the link doesn't work, go to amazon.com, search for Thorne's book,
>> >>and click on the cover's picture or on "larger image".)
>> >>
>> >>With:
>> >>
>> >>http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/8b.htm
>> >
>> >Damn, I knew he wasn't honest but that's really blatant. Living proof
>> >that Edie is a thief!
>>
>> So Eddie's fondness for plagiarism isn't solely restricted to his "literary"
>> exploits? What a fraud! That's a thoroughly sleazy and out of integrity
>> thing to do.
>
>Plagiarism?
>
>AHMers do it all the fucking time....
Yes, but the copyright on the stuff they post expired years ago.
LOL!!!
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> Edmond Wollmann whined in message <39400C...@astroconsulting.com>...
> >Avital Pilpel wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> >>
> >> > :-)))) Where's your work--of any sort-- spammer?
> >>
> >> Hmmmm... evading the point from the get-go. Got ya, didn't I?
> >
> >Reverse psychology doesn't work on someone more insightful than
> >yourself.
>
> So you using it is a lesson in self-defeat.
>
> >Why can't you answer? Where's your work for us to critique?
>
>
> Why can't you defend your plagiarism first, changing the subject isn't going
> to work, Kook!
In Edmo's world, if someone gives a bad review of a Spielburg film, it
would be perfectly reasonable for Steve to respond, "Yeah? So where's
your movie, Mr. Critic?"
Avital Pilpel
> Reverse psychology doesn't work on someone more insightful than
> yourself.
You certainly must be more insightful than I am. It is beyound *my*
understanding how copying artwork and posting it as yours can be called
anything else but "theft". You insightful mind must know something I
don't.
> Why can't you answer? Where's your work for us to critique?
Why, here it is:
http://www.metmuseum.org/collections/view1zoom.asp?dep=11&full=0&mark=1&item=89%2E15%2E21
At least, it's as much my art as most of the stuff on "your" art pages is
yours...
Avital Pilpel
Rob Coen
Cujo wrote:
>
...
>
> It is really not shameful to *practice* by using somebody elses work. It is
> shameful to publish or post your work based on someone elses labors and not
> attribute it properly. Ed has just been a complete and utter fuckmonkey and
> hasn't the guts to admit it. I hope the 'art proffessors' will see this next
> semester and revise their opinion of the kook.
> I'll see what I can do to ferret out the names.
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NA
ST
Camberg, Dave
A-576
4883
M-F 7-4pm
dcam...@mail.sdsu.edu
GD
Carlson, Craig
A-314
476-6999, 6565
MW
10:40-11:00 am
carl...@mail.sdsu.edu
PT
Castro, Jewel
A-517
6511
before &
after class; by appt.
jca...@ucsd.edu
ST
Cavolt, Jim
A-421
5959
M-F 7:30-4:00
jca...@mail.sdsu.edu
PT
Cline, Denise
A-461
6511
by appt.
NA
PA
Cooling, Janet
A-501G
1209
MW 11 am-12 pm
jcoo...@mail.sdsu.edu
TA
Cotnoir, Leigh
ST-106
6511
M 6:00-9:00
pm; by appt
TA
Craw, Brad
A-582
6511
TTH immed.
following class or
by appt.
NA
EID
Darroch, James
A-302A
3789
W 8:00-9:00 am
jdar...@mail.sdsu.edu
SC
Dominguez, Jess
A-106
A-509 advising
6267
M-T 9-12 &
by appointment
dom...@mail.sdsu.edu
TA
Donnelly, Steven
A-461
6511
W
12:00-1:00 pm
PT
Dunn, Jeanne
A-582/501B
5490
TTh by appt.
jd...@mail.sdsu.edu
ST
Elliott, Jerry
A-213
1205
M-F 8-4 p.m.
elli...@mail.sdsu.edu
AD
Fisch, Arline
A-406
5116
TTh 11:00
am-12:00 pm;
3:00-4:00 pm
afi...@mail.sdsu.edu
PT
Fobes, David
A-582
6511
MW
8:00-9:00 am
dfo...@mail.sdsu.edu
PT
Goodell, Shawn
104, 202 lab
858-772-0408
By appointment
SG...@home.com
AH
Grebl, Jim
A-559
5918
before &
after class; by appt.
gr...@mail.sdsu.edu
GD
Hamada, Gary
A-315
294-9711
TTh 11:00
a.m.-12:30 p.m.
gtha...@aol.com
AD
Hayakawa, Joanne
A-113
6537
TTh
11:00-12:30; W 4:00-6:00
p.m.
haya...@mail.sdsu.edu
SC
Hersko, Judit
A-106
6372
before &
after class; by appt.
her...@mail.sdsu.edu
TA
Hewitt, David
A-514
6511
before &
after class; by appt.
ewi...@rohan.sdsu.edu
PT
Hobbs, Keynan
A-582
6511
T-Th
12:00-12:30 pm
nine...@aol.com
TA
Holmes, Barbara
A-202B
6511
M 12-1 pm
erg...@hotmail.com
PT
Hughes, Terri
A-572A
4422
MW
12:00-1:00 pm
thu...@mail.sdsu.edu
GD
Jew, Robert
A-312
6565
before &
after class; by appt.
rob...@aol.com
PA
Keely, Richard
A-501B
5490
before &
after class; by appt.
aoc...@mailhost1.csusm.edu
TA
Kirkpatrick, Michiyo
A-314/216
6565
TH
3:30-4:30 pm
mkir...@mail.sdsu.edu
EID
Lara, Mario
A-302A
3789
MW
12:30-1:00 p.m.
ml...@home.com
GD
Levine, Amy
A-213
6511
before &
after class
NA
TA
Li, Christina
A-578
6511
MW
10:40-11:10 am
cc...@msn.com
PT
Litrownik, Hollis
A-461
1219
T-Th before
& after class
NA
PT
Luera, Mary Ann
A-514B
5590
after class
& by appointment
NA
SC
Mansfield, Bob
A-508
5940
TTh 11:00
am-12:00 pm;
2:00-3:00 pm
mans...@mail.sdsu.edu
AD
Maruyama, Wendy
A-206
6238
MW by appt only
mama...@mail.sdsu.edu
AD
McGrath, Melissa
A-572
6511
MW
10:30-11:00 am; 1:45-2:15
pm
NA
GD
Merritt, Susan
A-213/4
6601
TTh 11:00
a.m.-12 :00 p.m. &
Th
3:00-4:00 p.m.
smer...@mail.sdsu.edu
GD
Miller, Allan
A-315
5429
before &
after class; by appt.
ami...@mail.sdsu.edu
ST
Minor, Janice
A-505C
6511
M-F 9-4 p.m.
jmi...@mail.sdsu.edu
GD
Moaney, Eric
A-314
1234
MW
12:00-1:00 pm; TTh 11:0)
am-12:30 pm
moa...@mail.sdsu.edu
EID
Nakamura, Kotaro
A-302B
4761
TTh 11:00
am-12:00 pm
naka...@mail.sdsu.edu
TA
Nathanson, Laurel
A-461
6511
MW
11:00-11:58 am
NA
EID
Nelson, Kerry
A-319C
2513
TTh
10:40-11:40 a.m. & by
appt.
nel...@mail.sdsu.edu
ST
Nicolai, Oray
A-421
5959
M-F 7:30-4 p.m.
onic...@mail.sdsu.edu
PA
Orth, Fred
A-505A
6511
M-F 9-3 p.m.
fo...@mail.sdsu.edu
PT
Palese, Kate
A-481
6511
by appt. @
787-8544 (cell)
kpa...@mail.sdsu.edu
TA
Pierce, Greg
A-122B
6511
M
12:00-1:00 pm
gpi...@rohan.sdsu.edu
TA
Psuty, Ingrid
A-568
6511
TTh
12:15-12:30 pm
ps...@rohan.sdsu.edu
AH
Rigby, Ida
A-557
1218
TTh
7:25-7:55 am; 11 am-12 pm
W 1:25-1:55 pm
ri...@mail.sdsu.edu
PA
Roberts, Gail
A-504A
1210
TTh 10:30
am-11:30 pm
robe...@mail.sdsu.edu
TA
Roth, Dana
A-469
6511
Th
3:10-4:10 p.m.
NA
TA
Schultz, Clint
A-582
6511
MW 2:40 -
3:00 pm
kissm...@home.com
PT
Sexton, Barbara
A-517
6511
TTh before
(7:30 am) & after
(10:40 am)
class; by appt
bse...@earthlink.net
AD
Shirk, Helen
A-405
6777
MW 11:00
am-12:00 pm;
3:00-4:00
pm & 6:45-8:00 p.m.
hsh...@mail.sdsu.edu
GD
Siprut, Mark
A-215
5446
W 1:30-3:30 pm
msi...@mail.sdsu.edu
TA
Stump, Anna
A-572A
4422
TTh
10:40-11:10 a.m.
ast...@aol.com
ST
Sweatt, Lilla
A-552
6120
M-F 8-4 p.m.
lsw...@mail.sdsu.edu
TA
Szymanski, Lynn
A-104
6223
TTH 12-1 pm
gul...@yahoo.com
AH
Williams, Allyson
A-553
6332
before &
after class; by appt.
all...@mail.sdsu.edu
TA
Winkle, Kimberly
A-568
6511
MW
2:40-3:00 p.m.
win...@rohan.sdsu.edu
AH
Woods, Anne
A-555
5918
TTH 11
a.m.-12 pm, 2-3 pm
awo...@acusd.edu
EID
Wright, Robert
A-319
3789
W before &
after class
desi...@bast-wright.com
GT
Yapelli, Tina
A-420
4941
Th 11 am-12
pm; by appt.
tyap...@mail.sdsu.edu
PT
Younker, Leah
A-517
6511
MW by appt;
before & after
class
Kevin Burnett
wrote:
>Avital Pilpel wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hmmmm... evading the point from the get-go. Got ya, didn't I?
>
>yourself.
One problem with that statement, Wollmann. He was talking about you.
--
Kevin Burnett, Skeptical Extremist http://www.catnip.org/
"DOS is Disk Operating System. It's needed by the disk, not by your operating
system." -- Richard the Stupid, demonstrating his amazing knowledge of
computers.
Gonad the Ballbarian
wrote:
>On Tue, 6 Jun 2000 20:27:26 -0400, in alt.astrology Avital Pilpel
><ap...@columbia.edu> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Edmond H. Wollmann wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/gallery8.htm
>>>
>>> An artbook site will be online soon!
>>
>>I'll bet Ed thought that nobody would notice, but his "space" painting was
>>actually copied (pretty badly) from the cover art of Kip Thorne's book,
>>"Black holes and time warps: Einstein's outrageous legacy" (by the way, I
>>recommend that superb book to anybody remotely interested in physics or
>>cosmology, and the illustration looks much better in life than in amazon's
>>ditzy .gif image.)
>>
>>Compare:
>>
>>http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0393312763.01.LZZZZZZZ.gif
>>
>>(Or, if the link doesn't work, go to amazon.com, search for Thorne's book,
>>and click on the cover's picture or on "larger image".)
>>
>>With:
>>
>>http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/8b.htm
>>
>>It seems that Ed's most realistic art is done when he copies pictures from
>>other books. I have no doubt, for example, that most of his animal
>>pictures (such as picture "8d" in the same gallery) are copies from other
>>books, as well. When he tries to actually do something ORIGINAL, however, the
>>quality of the painting goes WAY down.
>
>One of Edmond's drawings of a hawk looked like one of the
>illustrations from a cover of a scifi book from the 70's by john
>normam.
>
>>Typical to Ed's rather "leechy" mentality, there isn't the slightest
>>notice, on any of his art pages, telling us which painting are original
>>and which are merely copies of previous paintings - to say nothing of
>>actually giving credit to the original illustrator or artist he copied
>>from.
>
>Edmond quotes whole pages in his book from other published books like
>Burnhams and other astronomical works. Recently he quoted something
>from Brasher and added no comment.
>
>>In this, Ed is acting in character: his book is full of VERY long quotes
>>from other books, to say nothing of illustrations and photographs printed
>>without permission or credit, and his web site has .mp3 files of music
>>that he does not own, violating the musicianss' copyright. It's just not
>>Ed's method to ask for something when he can steal it.
>
>But just cancel one of Edmond's messages and you will find him
>screaming about violating his copyright.
>
>>The best guide to whether or not a work on Ed's page is original or not,
>>ask yourself: "is it horredously ugly?" If it is, it's probably an
>>original Wollman. For example, THIS artistic chernobyl:
>>
>>http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/8c.htm
>>
>>Was probably NOT stolen from anybody, don't you think?
>
>What is the name of that one? Stools?
Not sure, but /personal/8a.htm should be named "Girl and Yeranus"
Gonad the Ballbarian
Purple Lightning
>> >Why can't you answer? Where's your work for us to critique?
>> going to work, Kook!
>In Edmo's world, if someone gives a bad review of a Spielburg film, it
>would be perfectly reasonable for Steve to respond, "Yeah? So where's
>your movie, Mr. Critic?"
And if Spielburg said that, some people might even applaud - because
Spielburg can pack crowds into theatres, make zillions of dollars and win
Academy Awards. Fucknuts, of course, has trouble selling his art even to the
single person who wanted to make fun of him and it.
ash
['Consider DIRT, Heiniebert!']
Purple Lightning
>:-)))) Where's your work--of any sort-- spammer? Other than chasing
>aroung people who intimidate you all day on usenet? Or is that your
>work?
>years trying to run me down only PROVES I am all powerful in your
>small-albeit joyless and accomplishment-less--world.
I agree that you ARE talented - at COMPLETELY FUCKING UP.
ash
['Everybody has got ot be good at something, eh, fucknuts?']
Kevin Burnett
>On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
>> Reverse psychology doesn't work on someone more insightful than
>> yourself.
>
>understanding how copying artwork and posting it as yours can be called
>anything else but "theft". You insightful mind must know something I
>don't.
>
>
>
>http://www.metmuseum.org/collections/view1zoom.asp?dep=11&full=0&mark=1&item=89%2E15%2E21
>
>At least, it's as much my art as most of the stuff on "your" art pages is
>yours...
Here's one of mine, depicting the "reality" Wollmann has created for himself:
http://metalab.unc.edu/wm/paint/auth/bosch/judge/judge-r.jpg
Here's another, of Wollmann on his throne:
http://metalab.unc.edu/wm/paint/auth/bosch/delight/delightd.jpg
el...@no.spam
Cujo <cu...@usenet-performance-art.org> wrote:
>He's strangely quiet on this one!
I noticed that. Lots of evasion but he never faces the accusation.
el...@no.spam
Doktor Pete <dok@!uce.lart.com> wrote:
>So Eddie's fondness for plagiarism isn't solely restricted to his "literary"
>exploits? What a fraud! That's a thoroughly sleazy and out of integrity
>thing to do.
Subscribe!
Widdershins
<cu...@usenet-performance-art.org> wrote:
>
>Bob Officer wrote in message <3945503d...@news.remarq.com>...
>>On Thu, 08 Jun 2000 12:26:33 -0700, in alt.astrology Edmond Wollmann
>><e...@astroconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>> Typical to Ed's rather "leechy" mentality, there isn't the slightest
>>>> notice, on any of his art pages, telling us which painting are original
>>>> and which are merely copies of previous paintings - to say nothing of
>>>> actually giving credit to the original illustrator or artist he copied
>>>> from.
>>>>
>>>> In this, Ed is acting in character: his book is full of VERY long quotes
>>>> from other books, to say nothing of illustrations and photographs
>printed
>>>> without permission or credit, and his web site has .mp3 files of music
>>>> that he does not own, violating the musicianss' copyright. It's just not
>>>> Ed's method to ask for something when he can steal it.
>>>>
>>>> The best guide to whether or not a work on Ed's page is original or not,
>>>> ask yourself: "is it horredously ugly?" If it is, it's probably an
>>>> original Wollman. For example, THIS artistic chernobyl:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/8c.htm
>>>>
>>>> Was probably NOT stolen from anybody, don't you think?
>>>>
>>>> Avital Pilpel
>>>
>>>:-)))) Where's your work--of any sort-- spammer? Other than chasing
>>>aroung people who intimidate you all day on usenet? Or is that your
>>>work?
>>
>>Well then there is the question of Where is YOUR art work Edmond? Not
>>someone else's work. Maybe Avital likes looking at art work not
>>everyone is talented, and very few stoop to steal someone else's work
>>and claim it as their own.
>>
>>>I am sure intelligent persons can see that you spinics chasing me for 5
>>>years trying to run me down only PROVES I am all powerful in your
>>>small-albeit joyless and accomplishment-less--world.
>>
>>No the intelligent person sees you as a simple lowlife thief.
>>
>>>http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/stolen_artwork.htm
>>>http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/unenforable_charter.htm
>>>http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/list_of_isps_that_ignore_me.htm
>>>
>>>It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the
>>>strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them
>>>better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena,
>>
>>Isn't better a subject judgement? Do you think your copied art
>>work is better than the original work?
>
>
>It is really not shameful to *practice* by using somebody elses work. It is
>shameful to publish or post your work based on someone elses labors and not
>attribute it properly. Ed has just been a complete and utter fuckmonkey and
>hasn't the guts to admit it. I hope the 'art proffessors' will see this next
>semester and revise their opinion of the kook.
>I'll see what I can do to ferret out the names.
Oops! Better watch out. You're getting perilously close
to going RL on Eddieeeeeee. If you do that, Tony will
come all over wrathful, and start accusing you of beating
poor Eddieeeeeee up, and other spiteful things. Of course,
you realize that it will be accompanied with massive bouts of
hand-waving.
>---
>Take some vitamins, get some excercise [sic], and try to
>build up your perceptions, critical thinking and powers of
>observation. Then come back and play with us big boys.
>Ed on a delusional power trip.
>
Widdy
Skepticult Member #159-904378-909
My inner child is a mean little fucker.
el...@no.spam
>
>Cujo wrote:
>>
>
>...
>>
>> It is really not shameful to *practice* by using somebody elses work. It is
>> shameful to publish or post your work based on someone elses labors and not
>> attribute it properly. Ed has just been a complete and utter fuckmonkey and
>> hasn't the guts to admit it. I hope the 'art proffessors' will see this next
>> semester and revise their opinion of the kook.
>> I'll see what I can do to ferret out the names.
>
>SDSU College of Arts and Letters:
>
>
>
> Paul J. Strand, Dean
> Dean's Office: Storm Hall 135
> 5500 Campanile Drive
> San Diego, CA. 92182-4435
> Phone: (619) 594-5431
> Fax: (619) 594-6281
>
> Assistant Dean's Office -
> Student Affairs: Nasatir Hall 235
> (619) 594-6270
>
>SDSU School of Art, Design, and Art History:
>
>http://art.sdsu.edu/art/general/gindex.html
Some of this may apply too:
Academic Misconduct. Includes the following examples as well as any
other similar conduct which is aimed at falsely representing a student's
academic performance: cheating, plagiarizing, unauthorized collaborating
on coursework, stealing course examinations or materials, falsifying
records or data, or intentionally assisting another individual in any
of the above.
Cujo
"Widdershins" <sini...@concentric.net> wrote in message
news:3946fda8...@news.concentric.net...
is
> >shameful to publish or post your work based on someone elses labors and
not
> >attribute it properly. Ed has just been a complete and utter fuckmonkey
and
> >hasn't the guts to admit it. I hope the 'art proffessors' will see this
next
> >semester and revise their opinion of the kook.
> >I'll see what I can do to ferret out the names.
>
> to going RL on Eddieeeeeee. If you do that, Tony will
> come all over wrathful, and start accusing you of beating
> poor Eddieeeeeee up, and other spiteful things. Of course,
> you realize that it will be accompanied with massive bouts of
> hand-waving.
You forgot to mention that the PZ symbiote will start pot banging and being
an asshole. Since it's easily found on the web, I doubt Tony will take much
notice.
Avital Pilpel
> > >Reverse psychology doesn't work on someone more insightful than
> > >yourself.
That's Ed in a nutshell. Like all psychopaths, he REALLY THINKS that the
common laws of morality, decent behavior, and society in general do not
apply to him because he is "special".
So he REALLY THINKS there is nothing wrong in himself stealing, because -
unlike us ordinary mortals - he is not bound by such "subjective value
judgements" like "thou shall not steal".
Avital Pilpel
el...@no.spam
Avital Pilpel <ap...@columbia.edu> wrote:
>That's Ed in a nutshell. Like all psychopaths, he REALLY THINKS that the
>common laws of morality, decent behavior, and society in general do not
>apply to him because he is "special".
>
>So he REALLY THINKS there is nothing wrong in himself stealing, because -
>unlike us ordinary mortals - he is not bound by such "subjective value
>judgements" like "thou shall not steal".
That sums it up quite well.
--
"I will never stop"
"I don't have to be on topic here"
-Edmond Wollmann, a$trologer, liar, spammer, hypocrite, censor, Jan. '98 KoTM,
convicted criminal, asshole, bully, Kook of the Year 1998,
the Ted Kennedy of astrologers
Cujo
<el...@no.spam> wrote in message news:sk26l6...@news.supernews.com...
SNIP!
> "I will never stop"
> "I don't have to be on topic here"
> -Edmond Wollmann, a$trologer, liar, spammer, hypocrite, censor, Jan. '98
KoTM,
> convicted criminal, asshole, bully, Kook of the Year
1998,
> the Ted Kennedy of astrologers
Shouldn't that be 'the Dr. Laura of astrologers'?
I know, but it seems much more accurate.......
~T
Purple Lightning wrote in message <8hs9u9$h0l$3...@slb1.atl.mindspring.net>...
>el...@no.spam <el...@no.spam> spooged...
> Ed runs away from the unpleasant truth about the same way Americans
>bugged out of Saigon, and starts muttering threats about canceling
>accounts and abusive ISP's, presumably on the theory that if he doesn't
>repeat the accusation, it'll cease to exist.
> That's how I knew I had him with the art critique.
>
>ash
>['So, fucknuts - are you still on probation?']
>
He is as friggin' delusional as that double murderer O.J. and owes about as
much money.
Purple Lightning
el...@no.spam
>>I noticed that. Lots of evasion but he never faces the accusation.
> Well, isn't that how we know we've got a hit?
It is indeed.
> Ed runs away from the unpleasant truth about the same way Americans
>bugged out of Saigon, and starts muttering threats about canceling
>accounts and abusive ISP's, presumably on the theory that if he doesn't
>repeat the accusation, it'll cease to exist.
> That's how I knew I had him with the art critique.
He's too much of a coward to do anything else.
Purple Lightning
>On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, jfred wrote:
>> > >Reverse psychology doesn't work on someone more insightful than
>> > >yourself.
>common laws of morality, decent behavior, and society in general do not
>apply to him because he is "special".
Narcissistic beyond belief - but I think it's more a coping mechanism
than root cause.
>So he REALLY THINKS there is nothing wrong in himself stealing, because -
'Everybody else does it.' --> Paranoid
>unlike us ordinary mortals - he is not bound by such "subjective value
>judgements" like "thou shall not steal".
'Reality justifies the means' --> anti-social!
ash
['His psychology is fairly standard issue tho. He's just too lame to
be a serial killer or a bigtime conman.']