oil.painting. hazards
jaXas
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>From working with oil paiting, and its mediums I have developed an allergenic
>sensitivity.
Don't mess with oils. Switch to water-based paints. With experience, I
believe you can achieve exactly the same effects with acrylics or other
polymer paints that you can with oils. I often cannot tell the difference
between my paintings done with oils and acrylics, which in the distant
past led to some erroneous applications when I chose to go back and
re-paint something using the wrong media.
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In article <1995Feb28...@carleton.edu> sre...@carleton.edu writes:
>From: sre...@carleton.edu
>Subject: oil.painting. hazards
>Date: 28 Feb 95 14:44:31 CST
>From working with oil paiting, and its mediums I have developed an allergenic
>sensitivity. Now whenever I am around mineral spirits or paint I get nauseous
>and dizzy. This happens right away. It can last for several hours afterwards.
>MY tolerance for these fumes has decreased a lot in the last year. I would
>like to get in touch with other painters or printmakers who have similar
>experiences to see how others have dealt with the problem.
> I was fitted with a respirator and wear plastic gloves but these are
>still not satisfactory. Also I would be very interested if anybody knows
>what long term effects of working with mineral spirits and cadmiums and
>chromium oxide etc. Are there new and better products out there?
Sherry H de Champlon
: In article <1995Feb28...@carleton.edu>, sre...@carleton.edu says:
: >
: >From working with oil paiting, and its mediums I have developed an allergenic
: >sensitivity.
: Don't mess with oils. Switch to water-based paints. With experience, I
: believe you can achieve exactly the same effects with acrylics or other
: polymer paints that you can with oils. I often cannot tell the difference
: between my paintings done with oils and acrylics, which in the distant
: past led to some erroneous applications when I chose to go back and
: re-paint something using the wrong media.
Wellllll...there certainly is likely to be debate on whether one can
achieve exactly the same effects with acrylics...But, as one who is also
becoming more sensitive to mineral spirits, I've gone back to turpentine
because it seems milder. And Ventilation! Like, outside, or, all the
windows open. Sometimes it's a pain, but bloody noses are a pain, too. I use
mineral spirits to clean brushes, but I keep the solvent in a jar with
the lid ON. (IMHO, odorless MS is evil,I want to know if I've left the lid
off.) Also, in cleaning brushes, I wipe off as much paint as I can first,
swish them in the MS, wipe again,then use a product called Brush Flush,
which is nontoxic. Keeps my brushes in great shape.
BTW, I also work with acrylic, and have considered switching entirely,
but I have yet to be able to achieve the same sort of luminosity as I
can with oil glazes. Sigh.
Sherry
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"Reader, what are you doing? Aren't you going to resist? Aren't you
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jAxAs
>BTW, I also work with acrylic, and have considered switching entirely,
>but I have yet to be able to achieve the same sort of luminosity as I
>can with oil glazes. Sigh.
The secret is to use plenty of transparent medium with either a
pigmented or dye based hue.Don't expect to thin with water
and create a viable glaze.
Using a good quality acrylic (Golden, or one of the comparable brands)
and plenty of clear emulsion you should be able to create even more
crystalline glazes than is possible with oils, simply because you can
build far more thickness without subsequent yellowing using acrylic
medium than you can using a damar based extender as you do with
oils.
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Sherry H de Champlon
: The secret is to use plenty of transparent medium with either a
: pigmented or dye based hue.Don't expect to thin with water
: and create a viable glaze.
: Using a good quality acrylic (Golden, or one of the comparable brands)
: and plenty of clear emulsion you should be able to create even more
: crystalline glazes than is possible with oils, simply because you can
: build far more thickness without subsequent yellowing using acrylic
: medium than you can using a damar based extender as you do with
: oils.
Yeah, I like Golden products a lot. I also like their retarding medium
and GAC. I don't use a damar extender, so yellowing isn't a problem
for me on the oils. I can certainly get interesting effects with the
acryls, but they are different.
Another thing is, I don't like the physicality of polymer paints as well as
oils. I don't want thicker layers, too much interference. The brush feels
different--and that is an important aspect to me.
I do like the water clean-up(although I find it's much more time consuming
to clean brushes full of acrylic than oil), I like the adhesive properties
of the paint, I like the range of mediums, and I like the durability and
flexibility. And...I'm still seduced by the look and feel of the oils...
JaXaS
>I do like the water clean-up(although I find it's much more time consuming
>to clean brushes full of acrylic than oil).
You should have LESS, not more trouble cleaning acrylic brushes. Don't
let them dry out. Hang them in a bucket of water when you aren't using
them, and swish the paint out frequently while using. I use a piece of foam with
slits cut in it that I lay across the top of the bucket and in the slits I
suspend my brushes. The foam is a piece of urethane (or whatever).
Another thing. I find it a lot easier to clean up my palette if I let the acrylic
dry, then I can just peel it off instead of having to use a bunch of rags and
towels to mop up. I use a piece of plate glass for a palette. Spraying the
dried acrylic with water (from spray bottle that I always have handy when
painting in acrylics) will also facilitate removing the dried paint using a
razor blade holder type of scraper.
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