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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:49:01 -0400
Local: Fri, Jun 15 2007 1:49 pm
Subject: US excluded from review, perhaps has 20,000 trafficked women
******
AdvocacyNet
News Bulletin 102
******

Sexual Slavery Haunts Nigerian Women in Italy

June 15, 2007, Turin, Italy: When Angel, 21, decided to leave her home in
Nigeria for Italy, she expected to work in a factory. Instead, on arrival, she
found herself forced into degrading sexual acts with multiple customers.

Angel (not her real name) is just one of thousands of young Nigerian women who
have been trafficked into sexual slavery, and she recounted her story to
counselors at the offices of the Transnational AIDS Prevention Among Migrant
Prostitutes in Europe Project (TAMPEP), in Turin last week.

Among those in attendance was Leslie Ibeanusi, one of two AP Peace Fellows who
are volunteering with TAMPEP this summer. Ms Ibeanusi describes how Angel
realized she had been enslaved in a recent two-part blog ("Angel's Story"):

"She (Angel) was alone in a new country and confused and scared. She shakingly
followed the orders of her madam (also a Nigerian woman) and was placed on a
street where she was to sell her body. Her first job was 'sex by mouth' for 20
euros.

"The room grew quiet, as if we all needed to process this information," writes
Ms Ibeanusi. "In halting speech, she described how she finally escaped from her
madam's house and refused to continue the work she was doing. "I want to stop
it. It is bad work. I want to go back to my parents in Nigeria.' As I listened
to her experience, I wept inside."

Ms Ibeanusi's blog was published on the same day as the latest annual
Trafficking in Persons (TIP) Report from the US State Department, which rated
the anti-trafficking efforts of 164 governments.

The report placed Italy on the "Tier 1" category and commended the government
for tough measures, including an operation ("Spartacus") earlier this year,
which led to the arrest of 784 suspected traffickers. The approval is
noteworthy because Italian law allows prostitution, a policy which the Bush
Administration strongly opposes.

The TIP Report typically provokes strong reaction outside the United States.
Many governments resent the fact that the US itself is excluded from review,
even though up to 20,000 people are thought to be trafficked into the US each
year.

Although civil society advocates use the report to put pressure on their own
governments, they often find the rating arbitrary and confusing. Contacted by
The Advocacy Project (AP), Rosanna Paradiso, the Director of TAMPEP in Turin,
suggested that the authorities in Turin could do much more to deter and arrest
the "madams" and pimps who prey on girls like Angel.

"The police don't have enough manpower to continuously arrest madams and
traffickers," said Ms Paradiso. "These people end up in the streets again,
still doing the same thing."

TAMPEP is considered a pioneer in the international fight against trafficking.
As well as using "cultural mediators" to help survivors like Angel in Turin,
TAMPEP recently opened an office in Benin City, Nigeria, to spread the word
about the dangers of trafficking and provide support for victims who are
forcibly returned from Europe.

The Advocacy Project has made a major commitment to supporting anti-trafficking
civil society initiatives this summer. Two Peace Fellows - Ms Ibeanusi from
George Washington University and Michelle Lanspa (Georgetown University) - are
volunteering with TAMPEP in Italy, while Jennifer Hollinger (Georgetown
University) is working in Albania with a local partner of the network Churches
Alert to Sex Trafficking Across Europe (CHASTE).

All three fellows are blogging about their experiences, and their early blogs
have shown how good writing can help to spread the message of their hosts.
Commenting on Ms Ibeanusi's story of Angel, one commentator writes: "Thank God
for TAMPEP and keep doing the good work, girl. Take care of yourself."

"Leslie, I've read this blog many times. Tears fall each time. You write
beautifully," writes another.

* For more on TAMPEP, visit http://advocacynet.org/page/tampep
* For Leslie's blog, visit http://advocacynet.org/blogs/index.php?blog=98
* For Michelle's blog, visit http://advocacynet.org/blogs/index.php?blog=72
* For Jennifer's blog, visit http://advocacynet.org/blogs/index.php?blog=90
* For the TIP Report, visit
http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2007/index.htm
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From: "Don" <one-if-by-l...@concord.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:24:00 -0400
Subject: Re: US excluded from review, perhaps has 20,000 trafficked women
"++"> wrote

> "The police don't have enough manpower to continuously arrest madams and
> traffickers," said Ms Paradiso.

Very well, then how do....

"These people end up in the streets again,

> still doing the same thing."

Sounds like a revolving door scenario all over again.
They arrest someone for a made up violation, the perp hands over some
coinage, they let them go.
Then they do it again.

I'm wondering how she was *forced* to have mouth sex yet later refused to do
it anymore.


 
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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 21:14:15 -0400
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Subject: Re: US excluded from review, perhaps has 20,000 trafficked women

The trafficking is real.  Was actually meaning to stick this in another
newsgroup.

 
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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:32:53 -0400
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"++" <sp...@erols.com> wrote in message

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I'm not questioning how real it is.
I'm speaking more about the motive of the writer of the article.

 
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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 11:53:34 -0400
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Subject: Re: US excluded from review, perhaps has 20,000 trafficked women

Like I said, it was meant for another newsgroup (was composing while
reading this newsgroup, I accidentally hit send) where I often remind
people not to be patronizing and complacent about how easy it is to be
Holy and Orthodox in transitional societies that once pretended to be
both but now often can't afford to be.  I'm glad you have not been
placed in the position of having to provide mouth to mouth sustenance or
be injured.

 
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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:40:40 -0400
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The area I recently moved from is waist deep in trafficking.
In fact, you may have heard about an incident that happened there about 6
months ago.
It was on all the stations and featured on America's Most Wanted.
Then last year there was a big row over a 13 yo guatamala girl that was
being used as a sex slave.
I think just this past week they encountered another boatload of smuggled
people off the coast of Sanibel.
The penalties for *using* other people against their will should be very
steep, centering first and foremost on restitution.

 
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:08:42 -0000
Local: Wed, Jun 27 2007 11:08 am
Subject: Re: US excluded from review, perhaps has 20,000 trafficked women
Don,

Hi, I'm Leslie Ibeanusi, the original writer of the blogs where
Angel's story was told. I dont think we can truly understand the
psychological fear that comes over these girls when they arrive new in
Italy, and are made to do these things. These madams are the ONLY
people these girls know and they are terrified to do anything else
outside of what she says.
Angel was able to escape later after a church leader in  Turin told
her that they have shelters for girls in her condition. By then about
3 months had passed since she first entered Turin...she knew a little
about the place and could make her way around somewhat. Shes a strong
girl...lets not downplay that....she made a big big decision...one
that many girls in her situation are not able to do.
You can read more of my blogs (and more on Angel)  at:
http://advocacynet.org/blogs/index.php?blog=98 or www.myspace.com/livethenoise

Thanks,
Leslie


 
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:21:03 -0700
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Subject: Re: US excluded from review, perhaps has 20,000 trafficked women
On Jun 16, 2:40 pm, "Don" <one-if-by-l...@concord.com> wrote:

> The penalties for *using* other people against their will should be very
> steep, centering first and foremost on restitution.

If by restitution you mean putting the traffickers under a grader and
rolling back and forth a few times, before confiscating all of their
worldly goods and assets and giving them to the victims, I'm with you.

Second choice would be to harvest organs for transplants for the
needy.  They wouldn't kill the person, just take one of everything -
one eye, one arm, one leg, one kidney, one lung, half of their liver
(the liver is an amazing organ, isn't it?) - then let them beg on the
streets until they die.  This might be considered a little severe, and
the squeamish might have issues with the plan, but it would pay for
itself.

Third choice, the victims get a go at the trafficker with an aluminum
bat for 15 minutes, then the assets are given to the victims.

The last is as close to compassion as I'd get.  And people accuse me
of being a bleeding heart liberal - go figure.

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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:24:31 -0400
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Subject: Re: US excluded from review, perhaps has 20,000 trafficked women

<leslie.ibean...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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<sigh>
One last time.
I never disputed the claim and as a long term resident of SW Florida I am
well aware of the situation.
Just this past week, again, some smugglers were captured off the coast of
Sanibel.
That seems to be their docking station of late, no doubt all the
gazillionaire residents like that.
My issue was with the way the article was written.
If you wrote the article than you should be ashamed of yourself.

 
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:01:51 -0700
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Subject: Re: US excluded from review, perhaps has 20,000 trafficked women
On Jun 27, 12:24 pm, "Don" <one-if-by-l...@concord.com> wrote:

> My issue was with the way the article was written.
> If you wrote the article than you should be ashamed of yourself.

WTF are you going on about, Don?  The shit happens, the woman has
first hand knowledge, and you're pissing and moaning about her writing
style?

Be a big guy - go pick on something else.  Here, I'll give you a few
topics to choose from:
taxes
guvmint
licensing

R


 
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:40:05 -0400
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Subject: Re: US excluded from review, perhaps has 20,000 trafficked women

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> On Jun 27, 12:24 pm, "Don" <one-if-by-l...@concord.com> wrote:

>> My issue was with the way the article was written.
>> If you wrote the article than you should be ashamed of yourself.

> WTF are you going on about, Don?  The shit happens, the woman has
> first hand knowledge, and you're pissing and moaning about her writing
> style?

Did you read it?
By adding fluff she delineates from the severity of the topic.
Maybe she should write romance novels or sumfink, and YOU should read em.
LOL

BTW: You are aware, aren't you, that the 2 most common *college degrees* for
the past 10+ years has been in journalism and communications.
Do you suppose thats because the market rewards people with those degrees
very well?
Or maybe they're popular because they're so easy to get?


 
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:43:28 -0000
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Subject: Re: US excluded from review, perhaps has 20,000 trafficked women
On Jun 27, 4:40 pm, "Don" <one-if-by-l...@concord.com> wrote:

> "RicodJour" <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote in message
> > On Jun 27, 12:24 pm, "Don" <one-if-by-l...@concord.com> wrote:

> >> My issue was with the way the article was written.
> >> If you wrote the article than you should be ashamed of yourself.

> > WTF are you going on about, Don?  The shit happens, the woman has
> > first hand knowledge, and you're pissing and moaning about her writing
> > style?

> Did you read it?

Duh.  Yes.

> By adding fluff she delineates from the severity of the topic.

Maybe I should criticize you for not knowing the meaning of the word
delineate.  Kind of a curious flaw in a person that draws lines all
day.

> Maybe she should write romance novels or sumfink, and YOU should read em.
> LOL

No, Don.  You're trivializing it.  It's the same thing as designing a
16K SF house for someone, and they ask where they can save money -
marble or tile floors in the laundry room.  It's besides the point and
focusing on a triviality.

> BTW: You are aware, aren't you, that the 2 most common *college degrees* for
> the past 10+ years has been in journalism and communications.
> Do you suppose thats because the market rewards people with those degrees
> very well?
> Or maybe they're popular because they're so easy to get?

What the nifong does that have to do with anything?  Does the writer
have a degree?  You're all of a sudden a literary critic?  Is it
material to the subject?  Or are you just losing the ability to focus
in your old age?

Pick someone else to beat up on.

R


 
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 00:52:47 -0400
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Subject: Re: US excluded from review, perhaps has 20,000 trafficked women

The credentials of the majority of these peace advocates do not include
fluff degrees, even if you did discount a degree in communications or
journalism as fluff.

By the way, didn't you mean "deviates from" instead of "delineates
from"?  If she delineates, she sharpens the focus, the opposite of what
you were erroneaously suggesting.  Or are you just in a big hurry to
trivialize or marginalize an important topic?


 
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Subject: Re: US excluded from review, perhaps has 20,000 trafficked women
"RicodJour"> wrote

> You're all of a sudden a literary critic?

All readers are, except you, I guess.
The writer is full of shit, and you agree with her?
Great.........

 
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:46:41 -0400
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"++" <sp...@erols.com> wrote in message

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Its a little more than humorous that you and Rico pick out my um mistakes
but gloss over the OP's.
LOL

 
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 05:40:26 -0700
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Subject: Re: US excluded from review, perhaps has 20,000 trafficked women
On Jun 28, 7:45 am, "Don" <one-if-by-l...@concord.com> wrote:

> "RicodJour"> wrote

> > You're all of a sudden a literary critic?

> All readers are, except you, I guess.

Could you delineate that for me?

> The writer is full of shit, and you agree with her?

Do I agree with her?  I know it happens, I've never met any victims.
How would my agreeing with her change the validity of the stuff she's
seen?  Oh, right.  It wouldn't.

Read your own posts.  You wrote that you don't dispute the claim,
you're objecting to the writing style.
Now you're saying she's full of it.  Make up your mind.

> Great.........

Thanks.

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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:44:21 -0400
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"++" <sp...@erols.com> wrote in message

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Malaprops are usually caused by "puttin' on airs".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malapropism

I was hoping for a much better list somewhere on the web, but haven't search
long enough.
"...
Archie Bunker's limited grasp of the English language resulted in a large
number of now classic unintentional malapropisms during All In the Family's
run (e.g. "vagrant disregard for the law", "the Pope is inflammable").
(i.e., flagrant, infallible)
..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archie_Bunker

That took me back. What a fabulous show.

My homeless friend, who's actually pretty smart for a homeless guy, pulls
these verbal stunts periodically. They crack me up. "... so we drove about a
mile or so to a place where these two roads intercede..."

When she was 8 or 9, my kid used to try out new words out an occasionally
hit one too. When you start trying to come up with them deliberately  you
see how tough it is.

I've got another friend how has a habit of mixing up two different clichés
to hysterical effect: "That opens a can of red worms..." ("Red
herring"+"another can of worms"). I don't know if this has an accepted name.
It comes from not paying close attention to this stuff.


 
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Subject: Re: Malaprops
On Jun 28, 8:44 am, "Michael Bulatovich" <Ple...@dont.try> wrote:

Two words for you, MB - Norm Crosby.

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"Michael Bulatovich"> wrote
> I've got another friend how has a habit

                                     ^^^

> It comes from not paying close attention to this stuff.

Indeed.

 
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:01:29 -0400
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Silly asses might enjoy her articles but serious people take serious topics
a little more seriously. duh
She might wanna consider a career writing for Cosmopolitan or as a ghost
writer for Barbara Taylor Bradford.

 
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:44:03 -0700
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Subject: Re: US excluded from review, perhaps has 20,000 trafficked women
On Jun 28, 11:01 am, "Don" <one-if-by-l...@concord.com> wrote:

> Silly asses might enjoy her articles but serious people take serious topics
> a little more seriously. duh
> She might wanna consider a career writing for Cosmopolitan or as a ghost
> writer for Barbara Taylor Bradford.

It's difficult to tell whether you're being obtuse on purpose or if
you have reached some sort of mental limit.  You're making an
asymptote out of yourself, so it's a tough call.

It's not about the writing.
You're not supposed to "enjoy" the article.
You might have serious moments, but you're not a serious people.

R


 
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:07:44 -0400
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"RicodJour"> wrote

> It's not about the writing.

<sigh>

Yes it is Rico, and its taken you far too long to realize it.
Its a serious topic written in a silly manner filled with innuendo and
hyperbole and I won't waste one more second going over this with you.

Ya know, thats what happens when you innundate yourself with silliness day
in and day out, at some point you can't tell the diff anymore.


 
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:05:07 -0400
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Subject: Re: Malaprops

There seem to be a lot of related categories between neologisms, which
kids often invent, puns, malapropism and the occasional freudian slop,
er, I meant slip.

 
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:26:53 -0400
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Subject: Re: US excluded from review, perhaps has 20,000 trafficked women

Don wrote:
>>By the way, didn't you mean "deviates from" instead of "delineates from"?
>>If she delineates, she sharpens the focus, the opposite of what you were
>>erroneaously suggesting.  Or are you just in a big hurry to trivialize or
>>marginalize an important topic?

>Its a little more than humorous that you and Rico pick out my um mistakes
>but gloss over the OP's.

That's presuming we saw something to comment on in the original blog.


 
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:28:51 -0400
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Subject: Re: US excluded from review, perhaps has 20,000 trafficked women

Don wrote:

>Silly asses might enjoy her articles but serious people take serious topics
>a little more seriously. duh
>She might wanna consider a career writing for Cosmopolitan or as a ghost
>writer for Barbara Taylor Bradford.

I don't know who this Bradford is???  but there was nothing to suggest
she was anything but serious about her new field work with trafficked
people?

 
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