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harry

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May 17, 2009, 1:44:04 PM5/17/09
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See http://tinyurl.com/yuc4st

Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon
General Assembly
11 May 2009
Address to the 63rd Session of the General
Assembly on the 60th Anniversary of Israel’s
Admission
Mr. President,
Excellencies,
Ladies and Gentlemen:
With each passing year, we come closer to our past. Every year brings
with it
momentous anniversaries of events that shaped our world. For example,
we have
recently marked the 60th anniversary of the end of World War II and of
the United
Nations itself. These two events, inextricably linked, form the basis
of what we
have come to know as the modern era, the post-war era.
For me, as Secretary–General, looking back on where the UN started and
where it
is now has a special importance, for I am now charged with guiding the
world body
through unknown and uncertain territory. “Terrorism” has long since
replaced
“arms control” and “détente” as the focus of international security,
yet the term
defies definition. One country’s terrorist is another country’s
revolutionary hero.
Some insist that terrorists are opposed to democracy, but we have all
seen
democracies behave like terrorists.
In many ways, the world today does not seem to be very removed from
the
barbarity of world war. The invasion of Iraq has lasted longer than
World War II,
and more tons of bombs have been dropped on that poor country than all
the
bombs dropped in that great war. The International Declaration of
Human Rights,
so prized and venerated by men and women of honour everywhere, stands
as an
impotent relic of a forgotten time because conquest, cruelty, and
arrogance are
still with us and growing stronger.
For all of the good the UN has accomplished since its founding, and
there have
been successes, the sheer magnitude of human suffering and violations
of
international law that have occurred and are still occurring must also
be taken into
account.
Few people know that Israel is the only state to be given a
conditional admission.
Under General Assembly Resolution 273, Israel was admitted on the
condition that
it grant all Palestinians the right to return to their homes and
receive
compensation for lost or damaged property. This provision is embedded
in UNGA
Resolution 194.
Suffice to say, Israel has never lived up to those terms, and never
intended to. For
60 years Israel has violated its terms of admission, and for 60 years
the UN has
done nothing about it. It has watched as Israel heaped misery upon
misery on
Palestine, and violated international law with impunity.
After “Operation Cast Lead,” no person, no country, no democracy can
look at
Israel without thinking of the inhuman slaughter and destruction
committed by the
axis powers in World War II, though one could have said the same about
numerous
past massacres. What atrocities might the world have been spared if
the UN had
refused to admit Israel 60 years ago?
Of course, the immediate post-war world was a different time. The
world had just
witnessed the horrors of Hitler’s racist excesses, and collective
Western guilt for
the Holocaust dictated attitudes toward the idea of a Jewish state.
Even the UN
could not withstand the moral pressure. On Nov. 29, 1947, it passed
General
Assembly Resolution 181, “The Partition Plan,” to carve a Jewish state
out of Arab
Palestine. However, it was never ratified by the Security Council, and
so does not
exist in law, which means the UN played no role in the creation of
Israel.
Nevertheless, “The Partition Plan” was utterly illegal and a violation
of the UN
Charter, because the UN had no right or power to take land from one
people and
give it to another.
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Assembly on the 60th Anniversary of Israel’s
Admission
CONTINUED
If it hopes to play a meaningful role in the 21st century, the UN must
do more than
simply promise to enact reforms. It must search deep within its soul
to redress the
fundamental violations of its founding principles, which have long
since ceased to
have any force. That recommitment must begin now, for it was 60 years
ago
today, May 11, 1949, that Israel became a member of the UN. The UN
cannot hope
to achieve any measure of peace or justice as long as it condones war
crimes,
which it does every day that Israel is allowed to flout its terms of
admission.
The past cannot be undone, but the future can change. As its newly
elected
Secretary-General, I promise that the UN will no longer be a passive
enabler of
genocide. Therefore, I will ask the General Assembly to meet in
special session at
the earliest possible time to strip Israel of its membership.
Ordinarily, a motion to
expel a member nation would have to come at the recommendation of the
Security
Council, but this is not an ordinary motion. Because Israel is in
violation of its
terms of admission, it is not a member in good standing, so the UN has
every right
to declare General Assembly Resolution 273 null and void. Since
Israel’s
membership depends on adherence to that resolution, its expulsion is
automatic.
Essentially, the unavoidable, lamentable truth of the last six decades
is that the UN
has been a moral and political failure because it has refused to
enforce its own
rules and defend the Charter. Nothing the UN does will have any value
as long as
this illegitimate member occupies a place in the General Assembly. I
want the UN
to have value.
I count on your support.
Thank you very much.

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May 17, 2009, 3:08:25 PM5/17/09
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It seems to me that the Jews have tried to make peace over the years
however the radical Palestinian factor that would prefer to have war
than to have peace of any sort. They are so fanatic and brainwashed it
is crazy. That whole area is crazy. Some radical Jews settlers on the
west bank are as bad as the Arabs when it comes to willingness to shed
blood. These settlers are on land that was given to the Palestinians but
they refuse to leave.. Whats with that? Both sides are going about
this in such a manner is will never be resolved in a reasonable manner.

I dont know as much of the politics other than what I read and see on
the TV. So I don't pretend to understand much of this but I think it is
clear that the Jews are trying hard to make a society that is useful and
productive.. where as the Palestinians are just interested in the
fighting.. they waste their money on guns rather than on improving there
society with education, health.. just my 2-cents.

harry wrote:
> See http://tinyurl.com/yuc4st
>
> Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon
> General Assembly
> 11 May 2009
> Address to the 63rd Session of the General

> Assembly on the 60th Anniversary of Israel�s


> Admission
> Mr. President,
> Excellencies,
> Ladies and Gentlemen:
> With each passing year, we come closer to our past. Every year brings
> with it
> momentous anniversaries of events that shaped our world. For example,
> we have
> recently marked the 60th anniversary of the end of World War II and of
> the United
> Nations itself. These two events, inextricably linked, form the basis
> of what we
> have come to know as the modern era, the post-war era.

> For me, as Secretary�General, looking back on where the UN started and


> where it
> is now has a special importance, for I am now charged with guiding the
> world body

> through unknown and uncertain territory. �Terrorism� has long since
> replaced
> �arms control� and �d�tente� as the focus of international security,
> yet the term
> defies definition. One country�s terrorist is another country�s

> After �Operation Cast Lead,� no person, no country, no democracy can


> look at
> Israel without thinking of the inhuman slaughter and destruction
> committed by the
> axis powers in World War II, though one could have said the same about
> numerous
> past massacres. What atrocities might the world have been spared if
> the UN had
> refused to admit Israel 60 years ago?
> Of course, the immediate post-war world was a different time. The
> world had just

> witnessed the horrors of Hitler�s racist excesses, and collective


> Western guilt for
> the Holocaust dictated attitudes toward the idea of a Jewish state.
> Even the UN
> could not withstand the moral pressure. On Nov. 29, 1947, it passed
> General

> Assembly Resolution 181, �The Partition Plan,� to carve a Jewish state


> out of Arab
> Palestine. However, it was never ratified by the Security Council, and
> so does not
> exist in law, which means the UN played no role in the creation of
> Israel.

> Nevertheless, �The Partition Plan� was utterly illegal and a violation


> of the UN
> Charter, because the UN had no right or power to take land from one
> people and
> give it to another.
> With breaking stories and
> newswire products from
> Statements home | Search results | Full text
> Home Press Room Multimedia Tools & Services Resources News Focus What,
> When at UN
> Address to the 63rd session of the General

> Assembly on the 60th Anniversary of Israel�s

> Israel�s

Blash

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May 17, 2009, 3:17:36 PM5/17/09
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harry wrote on 5/17/09 1:44 PM:

OT garbage snipped......

Good news harry.......
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-=DirtBag©

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May 17, 2009, 10:00:23 PM5/17/09
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With glasses on that one in the middle looks a lot like like Dick Cheney.

What happened with the Packard? What did it sell for?

Lubow

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May 17, 2009, 10:44:07 PM5/17/09
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On May 17, 1:44 pm, harry <hairyha...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> Seehttp://tinyurl.com/yuc4st

>
> Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon
> General Assembly
> 11 May 2009

Total bullshit from a piece of crap. The General Assembly is in
session in October, not in May, but I would not expect a pile of
manure to understand that. This "speech" does not appear in the
London or New York Times, nor in the Omaha World Herald or the Chicago
Trib. In fact the Secretary General, according to the UN website, was
meeting with Israeli officials. The website continued to state:

"Noting that the meeting [with President of Israel, Shimon Peres] was
taking place as the international community strives to reinvigorate
the political process towards Israeli-Palestinian peace, he expressed
his strong support for a reinforced role for the Middle East Quartet –
composed of the UN, the European Union, Russia and the United States.

"He also commended President Barack Obama’s stated commitment to
strengthening and deepening partnerships between the US, the parties
and international partners to help achieve peace between Israelis and
Palestinians and between Israel and the Arab States."

Blash

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May 17, 2009, 10:55:42 PM5/17/09
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-=DirtBag� wrote on 5/17/09 10:00 PM:

I stopped @ $60K.......it sold @ $64K..........

Awaken21

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May 17, 2009, 11:03:30 PM5/17/09
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On May 17, 3:08 pm, -=DirtBag© <D...@sonic.net> wrote:
> It seems to me that the Jews have tried to make peace over the years
> however the radical Palestinian factor that would prefer to have war
> than to have peace of any sort.

Actually the Isrealis have set up an aparthied state. The Gaza Strip
is the size of Delaware and they have over 60 checkpoints and even
more catastrophic is that the Isreali settlers continue to expand
within that area which, as all the the players know, guarantees the
extinction of the Palestinians as a people.

By their actions it seems Isreal wants peace as long as they can
continue to have the Palestinians as a permanent underclass. The
Palestinians and Arabs aren't idiots and they are never, I repeat,
never going to accept a peaceful solution where the Palestinians are
the underclass on their own land.

If Isreal is really interested in peace they must accept the right of
peaceful Palestinians to live along side them as equals. Which means
allowing Palestinians freedom of movement within their own borders,
and actively preventing Israeli settlers from continuing to invade the
land set aside for Palestinians.

When that happens they will then be able to address the violent
factions within the Palestinian state. Until then there will be no
peace and I don't see why there should be. As an American I can tell
you that if some other country were treating me the way Palestinians
are treated by Isreal I wouldn't be laying down my weapons either.

Fred A Stover

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May 17, 2009, 11:11:05 PM5/17/09
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I've read the book. Guess who's going.


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May 17, 2009, 11:23:33 PM5/17/09
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-=DirtBag©

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May 17, 2009, 11:37:39 PM5/17/09
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Interesting opinion. I won't pretend to fully understand what is
happening. I have never been there. I just see a what appears to he a
lot of collateral damage with the bombings. The Suicide bombers and how
bloodthirsty it appears to me. I have read about the right wing
Settlers and how they are taunting the Arabs by settling on that land.
I see the Israeli government telling them to move out. But they don't
just move them out when they refuse.. It seems that there are factions
on both sides who just don't want peace. However bad this situation is
I don't see the Jews' strapping on bombs and having that blood lust for
death...

Both sides stuborn as mules.. Why there? I cant get my hand around all
this religion nonsense. Spirituality would have this worked out by now..

Awaken21

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May 18, 2009, 2:18:47 PM5/18/09
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On May 17, 11:37 pm, -=DirtBag© <D...@sonic.net> wrote:

> Awaken21 wrote:
> I have read about the right wing
> Settlers and how they are taunting the Arabs by settling on that land.

It's not just taunting, it's a plan to make Palestine extinct. It's a
great plan, it's working quite well.

> I see the Israeli government telling them to move out. But they don't
> just move them out when they refuse..

Why would they? They can blame the extinction of Palestine on the
pesky settlers who just wouldn't listen. 'Plausible' deniability. If
Isreal was serious about peace the settlers would be first thing they
would address because it threatens Palestinian existence more than the
Isreali Army does. And that's saying something.

> It seems that there are factions
> on both sides who just don't want peace.  However bad this situation is
> I don't see the Jews' strapping on bombs and having that blood lust for
> death...

That's because when your military superiority is such that you can
kill 1000 of your enemy for every 10 you lose, there's really no need
to resort to deperation tactics. If you were in the group that had
been invaded, without the ability to raise an army, losing 1000 of
your citizens for every 10 you could take out, and the whole world was
ignoring you...seems to me when you corner any living being on this
planet they attack with their teeth. It's ridiculous to think that
they're not going to resort to whatever means available in a desperate
attempt to survive.

In truth I'm very disappointed. Of all the groups in the world you'd
think the Jews of all people would understand what they are doing
because similar things have been done to them so often historically.
But no, they are being led by fear and hatred and become as their
enemies. It's just sad.

>
> Both sides stuborn as mules.. Why there?  I cant get my hand around all
> this religion nonsense.  Spirituality would have this worked out by now..

The moment you point at a piece of ground, or a building, or a statue,
or whatever and say "This is holy and I will kill others to protect
it." you've become spiritually blind.

-=DirtBag©

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May 18, 2009, 3:30:45 PM5/18/09
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Caveat: I might be really off here since I have not researched any of it.

This is mainly my opinion. Why do the Palestinians have such a screwed
up leadership? From my view they have never had a creditable spokesman.
That sneaky guy Yasser Arafat always came across bad. He used the PLO's
money as his own.. Putting it into his bank account and administrating
it as HE saw fit.. Basically paying off whoever was helping him to keep
his leadership role. N

ow Abbas is in control and HUMAS. I still do not see much leadership.
If the Palestinians were to ever get SERIOUS about peace and acted in
good faith in a convincing manner the world would get behind them in an
effort deal in good faith. This crazy radical Islam BS is annoying and
so barbaric in this day and age. Islam is too radical in the New World
Order It will never get its place at the table because of this.

The WB Settlers need to be removed. If it is as you say then shame on
Israel. If they are attempting to kill off Palestine then they are no
better than their enemy. I think Israel should follow whatever accords
then have established thus far and if that means the West Bank they
better get them settlers out of there and allow the Palestinians to have
what was agreed. But I am sure each side has its reasons.

I have read that Israel holds over our head (USA) some secrets, but that
would be blackmail wouldn't it?

Seems that is a big desert and it is time that they get a clue.. A lot
of blood has been shed over this so called Holy Land. I think that is
what the real message is. Religion hah. It is about 2000 years of hate.

I would like to see a separate Palestine and Israel. Too bad they put
so much into Holy zones. Screw religion. This should be about people.
Too bad religion is involved.. it is like a crazy ex-wife.

I am aware that there is enough blame for both sides here. I just feel
that the Jews are actually trying to build something and the
Palestinians are not. They seem bent on tearing down.

I think it is the religious heads that do this to keep power... Keep the
people fighting and they never figure out how manipulated they are.. It
is about power for these old Mula's in caves and shit.. <s>

ALL good reasons for personal spirituality over organized religions.

-just my 2-cents anyway

Awaken21

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May 18, 2009, 4:32:15 PM5/18/09
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That's because your kids and family aren't relying on Hamas as their
only source of water and education and other things we take for
granted over here. Fatah is not very good at delivering social
services, whereas Hamas is very good at it. Something the western
press and Israeli's don't talk much about. The reason Hamas is so
popular is that they deliver the social services that no one else
seems interested in helping with.


> If the Palestinians were to ever get SERIOUS about  peace and acted in
> good faith in a convincing manner the world would get behind them in an
> effort deal in good faith.  This crazy radical Islam BS is annoying and
> so barbaric in this day and age.  Islam is too radical in the New World
> Order It will never get its place at the table because of this.
>

All radicals from whatever culture or belief system are crazy. We have
our share of them. It's not like the middle east has a monopoly on
insanity. Hi Comics!

> The WB Settlers need to be removed.  If it is as you say then shame on
> Israel.  If they are attempting to kill off Palestine then they are no
> better than their enemy.

Thats correct, they have become the people they fear and hate.

> I think Israel should follow whatever accords
> then have established thus far and if that means the West Bank they
> better get them settlers out of there and allow the Palestinians to have
> what was agreed.   But I am sure each side has its reasons.
>

Actually right after the made that last post I heard Obama talking
about it (Netanyahu is in town), and he specifically mentioned
settlements as very important. Netanyahu had previously said he does
not want to address the settlement issue or their previous commitments
at all, but Obama is pressing him publicly. Yeah!

Wow, I'm so relieved we have a President who gets it. The silence of
the drooling idiot we had before was scary.

> I have read that Israel holds over our head (USA) some secrets, but that
> would be blackmail wouldn't it?
>
> Seems that is a big desert and it is time that they get a clue.. A lot
> of blood has been shed over this so called Holy Land.  I think that is
> what the real message is.  Religion hah.  It is about 2000 years of hate.
>
> I would like to see a separate Palestine and Israel.  Too bad they put
> so much into Holy zones.  Screw religion. This should be about people.
> Too bad religion is involved.. it is like a crazy ex-wife.
>
> I am aware that there is enough blame for both sides here. I just feel
> that the Jews are actually trying to build something and the
> Palestinians are not.  They seem bent on tearing down.

People driven to desperatation never look sane. If I killed your
family, bull dosed your house, and made it impossible for you to
survive except under the most degrading inhuman circumstances, you
wouldn't look so civilized yourself.

>
> I think it is the religious heads that do this to keep power... Keep the
> people fighting and they never figure out how manipulated they are.. It
> is about power for these old Mula's in caves and shit.. <s>
>

Now you making a caricature. It's about an occupier that has set up an
apartheid state and the inability of any group of people to function
normally under a violent and oppresive regime.

You should take a trip to Israel someday and spend a week or so on the
Palestinian side of the fence. I have yet to meet the American who did
who sees the conflict the same way again.

-=DirtBag©

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May 18, 2009, 5:58:02 PM5/18/09
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I've heard the beaches are nice..

I am sure what you say is true regarding the oppression. Do you think
with the bombing and killing. it has helped, or hindered the cause for a
free Palestine?

There seems to be so much WRONG there..

Awaken21

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May 18, 2009, 7:17:47 PM5/18/09
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I'm not sure weather it's helped but I am sure it hasn't hurt. I've
never seen an oppresive regime that just packed up and went away or
started treating their underclass well because the people they were
oppressing gave up resisting. And in this case, it took a few decades,
but it has gotten world's attention, which they didn't have earlier.

>
> There seems to be so much WRONG there..

Humans at their worst, on both sides.

Awaken21

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May 18, 2009, 11:51:43 PM5/18/09
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Here's a glimpse of what Netanyahu is facing politcally...

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0518/p06s01-wome.html

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