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Dale Prieto

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Sep 25, 2000, 1:43:41 AM9/25/00
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Hello all:) I am about to start up my marine tank hobby again after
about 8 yrs.Excited as always but for one problem.My tanks would
always thrive,but I remember having lots of trouble with Ich yrs back
and I am interested in advancements in curing tanks of this pest.This
was a strong influence into me dropping the hobby:(((((((

Back then I used a product in which I would dip the infected fish for
about 2minutes in a blue liquid.I didnt know back then about the life
cycle this parasite has.Now I know that you need to eradicate the
parasite from the tank and not just the hosts body.Anyone have
opinions on the new products out for Ich with great claims.

"No-Ick Marine" looks good.Aparently you can use for days in a tank
WITH inverts and it will knock out the infestation with no harm to the
tanks inhabitants.Anyone tried this product yet???Im interested since
this time I want to do a non reef tank/FO but with some shrimp and
serpent stars for variety.

Also heard that bringing the temperature up while using this product
helps out tremendously.Im skeptical to the whole idea though:((It just
sounds too good to be true.

Thanks for responding.

rich...@my-deja.com

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Sep 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/26/00
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Hello.

After several failed attempts adding marine fish to my established
tank, at the recommendation of Flying Fish Express I started employing
a quarantine tank to all new fish. My QT is just a 10 gallon tank with
a heater & an air stone. I filled about half of it with water from my
display tank & covered the bottom with a thin layer of substrate (about
1/3 of it from my display tank). I also treat the water in the QT with
Coppersafe. Last time I left the fish in there for two weeks before
moving them to the display tank. They've been fine in the three months
I've had them. This is THE FIRST TIME I haven't had a problem with ICH,
so I'm assuming the use of a QT was a success. I just got some new fish
last week & have them in the QT again with the same regimen. I'm gonna
wait three weeks this time. The only thing to remember is to perform
regular water changes in the QT, I change about a quarter of the water
daily, because the ammonia level will get right up there with no real
biological filtering.

The blue liquid you used sounds like some kind of ich ridding med. I've
used both Coppersafe & RidIch & they were both blue. The idea is to
have the fish in the QT long enough for any parasites the fish may have
to mature, fall off the fish & get killed by the copper treatment or
ICH meds.

Good luck,
Rich

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Sidney Beauchamp

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Sep 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/26/00
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I have fresh water, but I guess ich is common to both. I used to have a
QT, but now I add coppersafe to my display tank to the specified
concentration and add the fish directly. Never had any problems since i
use coppersafe. The new fish, if infected will show white spot but as
they mature they die in there free swimming stage. But then again, I
don't have any invertebrates in my fresh water tank. Coppersafe will
kill invert.

Sid.

Frank & Kay Bayne

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Sep 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/26/00
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First, let me point out that I keep fresh water fish...In the years past,
most of the mom and pop pet stores quarantined incomming fish. Todays pet
stores seems to be the other way around, most of them don't quarantine at
all. To make things worse, most of the bigger stores have central filter
systems...After many years of keeping and breeding fish, I sold out. It
didn't take long for me to get another tank, or I should say, another two
tanks, one being a quarantine tank. All/any fish I buy goes into it. For the
first 4 or 5 days, I do 25% water changes, followed by a treatment with
Fluke-Tabs and Rid-Ich. (may as well treat the inside of the fish as well as
the outside) Both work on marine fish as well. My fresh water plants go
through a 50% water - 50% fofmeldyhide dip for 1 min. before going into the
tanks also...With the prices of some of the fish today, both fresh and
marine, a quarantine tank and some preventive medications seems to be
cheap.......Frank
<rich...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8qqg21$1h1$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...

> Hello.
>
> After several failed attempts adding marine fish to my established
> tank, at the recommendation of Flying Fish Express I started employing
> a quarantine tank to all new fish. My QT is just a 10 gallon tank with
> a heater & an air stone. I filled about half of it with water from my
> display tank & covered the bottom with a thin layer of substrate (about
> 1/3 of it from my display tank). I also treat the water in the QT with
> Coppersafe. Last time I left the fish in there for two weeks before
> moving them to the display tank. They've been fine in the three months
> I've had them. This is THE FIRST TIME I haven't had a problem with ICH,
> so I'm assuming the use of a QT was a success. I just got some new fish
> last week & have them in the QT again with the same regimen. I'm gonna
> wait three weeks this time. The only thing to remember is to perform
> regular water changes in the QT, I change about a quarter of the water
> daily, because the ammonia level will get right up there with no real
> biological filtering.
>
> The blue liquid you used sounds like some kind of ich ridding med. I've
> used both Coppersafe & RidIch & they were both blue. The idea is to
> have the fish in the QT long enough for any parasites the fish may have
> to mature, fall off the fish & get killed by the copper treatment or
> ICH meds.
>
> Good luck,
> Rich
>
> In article <39cee1ea...@news.gilanet.com>,
> Da...@gilanet.com (Dale Prieto) wrote:
> >

dr...@demon.co.uk

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Sep 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/27/00
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>> Before you buy.
>

the blue substance you are talking about is either cuprazin or
protozin if yoou use this in you main tank you will kill all your
inverts also why do yoou not have a live filter in your hospital tank
this will cause more stress to a already stressed fish keep yoou tank
filter alive when empty with bio mature


Kelvin Woo

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Sep 30, 2000, 12:26:19 AM9/30/00
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Hi !
Higher temp. will shorten the ich life cycle !

Dwight

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Sep 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/30/00
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On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 05:43:41 GMT, Da...@gilanet.com (Dale Prieto)
wrote:

>
>Hello all:) I am about to start up my marine tank hobby again after
>about 8 yrs.Excited as always but for one problem.My tanks would
>always thrive,but I remember having lots of trouble with Ich yrs back
>and I am interested in advancements in curing tanks of this pest.This
>was a strong influence into me dropping the hobby:(((((((

My independent LFS has a thriving saltwater section and an additional
treatment they use against saltwater ICH is to reduce the aquarium's
salinity. They add additional amounts of purified water to a point.
It makes sense, since increasing salinity is one of the steps to take
in weakening freshwater ich during treatment.

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DefLizard

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Sep 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/30/00
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Yes, but will also increase the rate of infection, and without increased
aeration/turbulance, will also decrease dissolved oxygen levels, which
further stresses the fish! NOT recommended for SW tanks!


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