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jake...@gmail.com

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Dec 2, 2005, 9:53:34 PM12/2/05
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I have looked all over the net and can't get a straight answer . Do I
just throw all the salt right in to the water or do i do something
special? is there ideal levels for the salt tank pertaining to salt
and other things? help I feel lost. I inherited this tank and it
occupants and just finished cleaning it and filling it with water.
whats next? I have fish in bags how long can that go on?
jake

Ross T.

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Dec 2, 2005, 10:09:18 PM12/2/05
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Woah! I don't envy you dude.
I do know that Its easier to dissolve salt in water by heating water on
the stove then adding the salt. You can saturate the solution more
completely this way

Ross T.

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Dec 2, 2005, 10:30:40 PM12/2/05
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I'd say get the water conditioned properly, then the fish can live in a
bare tank, or what you have there till the morning . Then I'd go to the
store where your donor bought his fish etc. And let them know about this
mixed blessing you've had bestowed upon you. There are tank preparations
available that can cycle a tank in a very short period of time. First
Make sure that chlorine and chloramines are not present in your water by
using a conditioner which will take care of these chemicals, get your
salt concentration right and get the water temperature right. Then add
fish. The water that the fish live in is Like our air to us. Make that
right and they should be ok till morning. If the fish are going to stay
in their bags for any length of time, make sure there is a very high
percentage of air to water in them, as the fish can live in less water,
but they can't do without oxygen.
I've only kept fresh water fish, and I'm somewhat of a novice my self. I
hope others will chime in here who have more experience with this type
of thing :-( !

Ross T.

Frank

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Dec 3, 2005, 12:14:11 AM12/3/05
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jake wrote;

>help I feel lost. I inherited this tank and it
>occupants and just finished cleaning it and filling it with water.
>whats next?

You don't want to use tap water - use RO (reverse osmosis) or
distillied found in most of the larger supermarkets.

>Do I just throw all the salt right in to the water or do i do something
>special?

You need a marine salt such as Instant Ocean. Do you have a hydrometer
(?), the specific gravity of salt water is 1.026sg - about 1/2 cup of
salt per gal. - Temperature, 78º - pH between 8.0 & 8.3 ,
ammonia/nitrite = 0, nitrAte - 20ppm or less, alkalinity (hardness)
between 8 and 11dKH. Have a protein skimmer (?) - Aqua "C" Remora is a
good one for the smaller tanks, 55 gal. and up, I would get the pro
($200.00 or less).

> I have fish in bags how long can that go on?

CO2 accumulates while oxygen levels drop if the bags are closed. pH
drops, ammonia levels rise, temp. changes, bacteria increase, etc. - a
few hours, tops! A drop or two of AmQuel and NovAqua per bag would
sure help if you have them. AmQuel will neutralize ammonia, NovAqua
willprovide slim coat protection and stabilize pH.

>I have looked all over the net and can't get a straight answer .

This is mainly a freshwater news group, but there are a few marine tank
keepers here.

>help I feel lost...........

Hope you know about the "nitrogen cycle" (?). Well, with the fish in
the bags, you don't have time for it! As soon as you can, go to a pet
store that has saltwater fish. You need to get some of their
established filter media and *fill* your filter with it. Better yet,
ask the store owner if they would house your fish untill you can do a
fishless cycle (anout 10 days to a couple of weeks.)
......................... Frank

Ross T.

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Dec 3, 2005, 1:29:27 PM12/3/05
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Sounds right to me. Tx. Frank.

Ross T

Ray Martini

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Dec 4, 2005, 8:59:19 AM12/4/05
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Let's also factor in the live rock (or lack thereof). Cured live rock acts
as your filtraton system removing ammonia and nitrites from your system. If
the tank came with live rock it must be kept wet or the animals living in
the rock will "die off". If the die off is high then once you add the rock
to the tank your ammonia level will skyrocket and you will have to cycle the
tank from scratch. That could take a while. I would also add a bag of live
sand to the system.

Marine tanks are completely different from freshwater tanks. Read, read, and
read some more. I would take Frank's advice and ask the store to "babysit"
your fish until the tank is ready. You may have to pay rent during this
transition but it's well worth it. Take your time and get it right, you'll
not regret it. Also heed Frank's advice and DO NOT use tap water. RO or
RO/DI water is the way. Most LFS sell RO/DI water really cheap. It's $1 for
5 gallons at our local saltwater store here.

Check out http://www.wetwebmedia.com , great reading there.


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Marksfish

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Dec 4, 2005, 11:16:38 AM12/4/05
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Probably not the answer you are looking for, but I have recently started a
marine aquarium again and have made a bit of a diary. You may want to have a
look: www.marksfish.me.uk/marine/fourfoot.htm

Regards

Mark


bassett

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Dec 5, 2005, 1:32:24 AM12/5/05
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"Marksfish" <ma...@nospam.marksfish.me.uk> wrote in message
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You could also look here, rec.aquaria.marine.misc
But whatever you do , get someone to mind your fish for you, until your
ready, marine set-up's are far more complex then freshwater, Some people
have no trouble at all, others like me, can't get it right, and stick with
freshwater. You might find that the person who's boarding your fish, might
assist you, with your set-up
good luck to you,, bassett


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