Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Re: * * * Fox Admits Planting Political Brainwashing In Popular TV Shows

3 views
Skip to first unread message
Message has been deleted

Cliff

unread,
Jun 2, 2009, 11:38:40 AM6/2/09
to
On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:30:21 -0400, Animated GIF Man <abp...@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

>If you watched Keith Olberman (MSNBC) this evening, he advised that if you walk
>into a establishment such as a restaurant or bar, you will probably see FOX
>NEWS. If this offends you, you should ask the manager to change channels and
>tell him why (such as FOX news advocating someone should kill the abortionist,
>which is terrorism). If the establishment will not change channels, than walk
>out! I have gone to Burger Kings to have broiled Chicken Sandwich (OK, not so
>healthy; but, the healthiest thing they got when you are in a rush. I take
>mustard and not mayo) and saw FOX News. Every time, I went up to the manager and
>asked him to change the channel . Friends would do the same and we would
>discuss this at work. The manager changed it. After going in several times,
>complaining about FOX NEWS, they finally had CNN on all the time (no longer
>FOX). Fox NEWS does not report real news. On the View, one admitted that he
>doesn't check facts. Now the owner of FOX NEWS - Murdock admits that FOX uses
>brainwashing techniques in order to increase viewership. Therefore, FOX NEWS is
>not real news. Please read:
>
>Fox Admits Planting Political Brainwashing In Popular TV Shows
>
>May 28, 2009
>
>Rupert Murdoch's Twentieth Century Fox corporation has admitted to planting
>political brainwashing within its globally popular TV shows and indeed boasts
>that it is proud of the fact.
>
>A corporate video currently being showcased on another part of Murdoch's media
>empire, MySpace.com, shows Fox executives and stars of its universally
>recognized shows bragging about how they use the platform of hit shows that are
>broadcast globally to implant messages about the supposed threat of global
>warming.
>
>This is not the first time Fox have been enthusiastic in propagandizing for the
>establishment. In 2003, Rupert Murdoch himself admitted that the corporation
>had "tried" to help the Bush administration sell the war in Iraq.
>
>The text accompanying the video states, "In 2006, News Corp. embarked upon a
>company wide initiative to reduce the size of its carbon footprint."
>
>The means by which this "initiative" was carried out is then made clear by a
>plethora of clips from Fox's most popular shows - the Simpsons, King of the
>Hill, Family Guy, Prison Break - which are all loaded with messages about global
>warming and the need to do something about it.
>
>"What could we do on a practical level to start making a difference," asks one
>executive before another answers, "The biggest thing we've done is inserting
>messages about the environment into some of our content."
>
>In other words, Fox has embarked on a deliberate campaign, which could only have
>been done with the coordination of the script writers of each program, to force
>people to accept the pseudo-science of global warming by brainwashing them into
>accepting it as a reality. This has been achieved by weaving in messages about
>climate change and having popular characters in the TV shows embrace specific
>tenants of the global warming manifesto.
>
>"The most powerful way we could communicate the commitment on behalf of our
>company, was to change the practices within the production, as well as work in a
>message about global warming, about environmental changes, about empowering
>people to take responsibilities," states Fox chairman Dana Walden.
>
>We're also treated to the vomit-inducing sight of Kiefer Sutherland, who plays
>the torture loving Jack Bauer in 24, sounding about as genuine as a 3 dollar
>bill reading off a TelePrompTer about how Fox is committed to reducing its
>"carbon footprint".
>
>This again goes to show that the acceptance of global warming as a reality by
>the general public is not being accomplished as an organic reaction to
>scientifically proven threats, but by propagandists artificially piggy-backing
>the climate mantra on the back of fictional TV shows passively absorbed by
>people in their millions.
>
>This is key because of the process that people's brains undergo when they are
>watching television. Political messages implanted in fictional television
>programs will always enjoy a receptive audience.
>
>According to an Associated Content article, "Studies have shown that watching
>television induces low alpha waves in the human brain. Alpha waves are
>brainwaves between 8 to 12 HZ. and are commonly associated with relaxed
>meditative states as well as brain states associated with suggestibility."
>
>Experiments have shown that less than one minute after the viewer begins to
>watch television, the brain switches from Beta level consciousness, associated
>with active and logical thought, to Alpha level, which is associated with
>passive acceptance and suggestibility. This is why advertisers spend billions a
>year on commercials as well as product placement within TV shows themselves.
>
>The scale of what Fox is admitting to here is staggering, and the fact that they
>even boast about what they are doing beggars belief. As Darryl Mason
>sardonically comments, "I never realized just how much I'd learned about the
>dire threats of global warming-induced climate change simply by watching
>immensely, globally popular Murdoch/Fox entertainments like The Simpsons and
>24."
>
>Millions of people not just in America but globally are being educated, or
>should I say re-educated, about the highly complex and highly debatable topic of
>global warming, not through a reasoned public debate between advocates and
>skeptics, but through fictional cartoons, comedies and drama shows produced by a
>monolithic corporation that has its tentacles deeply embedded into the same
>establishment that is trying to sell global warming in order to introduce a CO2
>tax and regulate people's lives.

Cliff

unread,
Jun 2, 2009, 11:53:18 AM6/2/09
to
On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:30:21 -0400, Animated GIF Man <abp...@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

>"The most powerful way we could communicate the commitment on behalf of our

It's actually kind of hard to believe that about Faux.

Probably program control by the producers, trying
to stick some redeeming value in (and I do like
Family Guy & American Dad).
Family Guy is from Seth MacFarlane & crew.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Guy
American Dad is from Seth MacFarlane too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Dad!
I don't think Faux owns either.

Faux "News" is full of denier propaganda IIRC.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22fox+news%22+%22global+warming%22&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

And if you bought the denier propaganda you sort of need to
first study a bit about the subjects IMHO.
---
Cliff

Jim Alder

unread,
Jun 2, 2009, 1:53:45 PM6/2/09
to
Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> echoed without comment:

Animated GIF Man <abp...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

...and all my comments are directed to him...



>>If you watched Keith Olberman (MSNBC) this evening, he advised that if you
walk
>>into a establishment such as a restaurant or bar, you will probably see FOX
>>NEWS. If this offends you,

If the mere sight of a news program offends you, you should probably sit
down and watch it to decide why, rather than just take the word of that
leftwing airhead. Let me know if you find any real bias in their reporting of
the news. Actual examples, not just the fact that looking at Hannity's face
makes you want to puke.

And we're talking about NEWS reporting, not opinion shows, which you've
already shown that you have no problems with, since you watch Olberman, who
couldn't possibly be more opinionated and partisan.

>> you should ask the manager to change channels and
>>tell him why (such as FOX news advocating someone should kill the
abortionist,
>>which is terrorism).

Which NEWS program advocated killing a doctor? Be specific, or you are no
better than Olberman or the others who lie about Fox News. For that matter,
who on that or any network advocated murder? An actual quote would be nice,
and utterly unexpected.

>> If the establishment will not change channels, than walk
>>out! I have gone to Burger Kings to have broiled Chicken Sandwich (OK, not
so
>>healthy; but, the healthiest thing they got when you are in a rush. I take
>>mustard and not mayo) and saw FOX News. Every time, I went up to the manager
and
>>asked him to change the channel . Friends would do the same and we would
>>discuss this at work. The manager changed it. After going in several times,
>>complaining about FOX NEWS, they finally had CNN on all the time (no longer
>>FOX).

All the time, you say? So your 'mea culpa' above about being forced to
eat their food because you were in a rush was bullshit, too? Apparently you're
in there "all the time"?

>> Fox NEWS does not report real news.

Please cite some fake news they reported.

>> On the View, one admitted that he doesn't check facts.

"One"? One what? How about a name, better yet a quote? Even better, a
video? You do know that news agencies have people to do that, don't you?
They're called fact-checkers.

>> Now the owner of FOX NEWS - Murdock admits that FOX uses
>>brainwashing techniques in order to increase viewership.

Brainwashing? Now why do I think that in your case, only a light rinse was
needed? What he 'admitted' was that they have commentary in their FICTION
("fictional cartoons, comedies and drama shows") shows' dialogue about global
warming and climate change. I've seen that in most every show on the tube, not
just Fox. It's in the movies, too.

>> Therefore, FOX NEWS is not real news. Please read:

I did read it. There's nothing in there about FOX NEWS.

You're lying.

--
Some people are more interested in
creating heat than shedding light.

DaveG

unread,
Jun 2, 2009, 3:05:42 PM6/2/09
to
On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:30:21 -0400, Animated GIF Man wrote:

> Fox Admits Planting Political Brainwashing In Popular TV Shows

Got a reputable link for that?
(apart from any possible copyright violation by posting the entire story
without even an attribution)

--
You cannot simply assume someone is honest
just because they are not an MP.

Cliff

unread,
Jun 3, 2009, 12:19:07 PM6/3/09
to
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:28:32 -0400, "P" <som...@microsoft.com> wrote:

>
>"Cliff" <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:1rha25tnm2f11q7a0...@4ax.com...


>> On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:30:21 -0400, Animated GIF Man
><abp...@ix.netcom.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >If you watched Keith Olberman (MSNBC) this evening, he advised that if
>you walk
>> >into a establishment such as a restaurant or bar, you will probably see
>FOX
>

>blah, blah, blah
>
>WoW! Now there's a credible post!

Winger has tits in wringer AND panties bunched again !!!
--
Cliff

Message has been deleted

Jim Alder

unread,
Jun 5, 2009, 3:20:34 AM6/5/09
to
Animated GIF Man <abp...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote in alt.aol.tricks:

>> Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> echoed without comment:
>>
>> Animated GIF Man <abp...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> ...and all my comments are directed to him...
>>
>> >>If you watched Keith Olberman (MSNBC) this evening, he advised that if
you walk

>> >>into an establishment such as a restaurant or bar, you will probably see

FOX
>> >>NEWS. If this offends you,
>>
>> If the mere sight of a news program offends you, you should probably
sit
>> down and watch it to decide why, rather than just take the word of that
>> leftwing airhead. Let me know if you find any real bias in their reporting
of
>> the news. Actual examples, not just the fact that looking at Hannity's face
>> makes you want to puke.
>>
>

> Fair enough, and yes, clearly right wing unbalanced reporting does offend me
> especially when it is on a network that purports to be 'fair and balanced'
when
> they are clearly anything but. Examples?

Yes, examples. Specific examples. See, your generic "all the lies and
distortions and downright insults" is meaningless.

Rasmussen poll about media bias.
http://tinyurl.com/quns6b

70%-9%, Americans say most journalists want to see Obama win the election,
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1003/joe-the-plumber

> Puh-lease ... one need look no further
> than all the lies and distortions and downright insults directed at our
> President (repeated lies about attending a madrassa when it was already
known to
> be false, repeatedly suggesting he was not born American when FOX News knew
for
> a long time he was (unless you are seriously suggesting that in the mid-
1960's
> his mixed race marriage parents lied about where he was born when filing his
> birth certificate on the off chance he might run for President of the United
> States one day),

Is there a leftwing website somewhere that is telling you to use that lame
dodge when someone brings up the subject of Obama's foreign birth? Because I
have heard it almost word for word now from several of your cohorts and it is
plain nonsense. Do you really think that the only reason that foreign parents
would want to give their child a shortcut to American citizenship is an
aspiration to the White House? Is that why all these Mexicans are sneaking
over here? They want to be president?

> ...that he is or ever was a Muslim, also long proven false,

And where can I find that 'proof'? Some people still aren't sure, so I
thought I'd ask.

> the "terrorist fist jab" [read: playful fist tap] he shared with his wife,

Of course, she said it questioningly, if not incredulously when she did
use that phrase. It would seem obvious that she was echoing what someone else
had said, someone NOT on Fox News, and that the controversy was the news
story, not their hand gesture. Hear for yourself;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_vmQrTi3aM

> ...whom FOX
> [read: FAUX] News characterized as Barack's "baby mamma" (when it is known
by
> anyone with a brain that the term "baby momma" refers to someone who is the
> typically unmarried mother of his children and that a "baby mamma" is not
> married to the father of said children.

Anyone familiar with urban slang, maybe. I never heard the phrase before
and missed the whole controversy when it happened. Quite a hysteria
considering it was a subtitle on the screen for about three seconds.

> Barack at the time had been married for
> 15 years to Michelle, had been faithful to her that whole time and they had
> their two beautiful daughters in wedlock. These sorts of comments while
typical
> of FOX [read: FAUX] News (or as I prefer to call them, the Republi-Nazi
> Propaganda Channel),

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're all familiar with the Left's obsession with not
calling anything on the Right by its actual name. Duhbya, Limpballs, etc. It's
oh, so clever.

> ...have no place in any reputable news agency.

Of course they are NOT typical comments, even the ones you don't
deliberately misrepresent.

> Ergo, by
> default, FOX News is disreputable, unreliable and far from fair or balanced
in
> their reporting.

No, but you are all of those things.

> Fox Admits Planting Political Brainwashing In Popular TV Shows

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiMaILygSjk

Yes, a catchy headline picked up by all the Leftwing blogs. And completely
untrue. They "admitted" nothing of the kind.

>> And we're talking about NEWS reporting, not opinion shows, which you've
>> already shown that you have no problems with, since you watch Olberman, who
>> couldn't possibly be more opinionated and partisan.
>

> Actually, I rarely watch Keith Olbermann at all, usually confining my diet
of
> his wisdom to occasional YouTube 'special comments' that have gone viral.

You could starve to death on a diet of Olbermann's 'wisdom.'



>> >> you should ask the manager to change channels and tell him why (such as

>> >> FOX news advocating someone should kill the abortionist which is

terrorism).
>>
>> Which NEWS program advocated killing a doctor? Be specific, or you are
no
>> better than Olberman or the others who lie about Fox News. For that matter,
who
>> on that or any network advocated murder? An actual quote would be nice,
and
>> utterly unexpected.
>

> You may be limiting yourself to news programs specifically, but I choose not
to.
> (The likely reason for this is you clearly know that it was Bill O'Reilly
and
> FOX News who in no uncertain terms repeatedly called for Dr. Tiller's death.
If
> not seen that way by you, we can at least agree that O'Reilly and FOX share
> joint responsibility for inciting people to commit violence.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=Bill+O%
27Reilly+abortion+doctor+murder&aq=f

All of those videos are AFTER Tiller was killed. Where are the quotes of
someone on Fox advocating that action? Please don't give me another page of
'hits' from a search that bore no fruit.

>> >> If the establishment will not change channels, than walk out! I have
gone
>> >> to Burger Kings to have broiled Chicken Sandwich (OK, not so
>> >>healthy; but, the healthiest thing they got when you are in a rush. I
take
>> >>mustard and not mayo) and saw FOX News. Every time, I went up to the
manager
>> >>and asked him to change the channel . Friends would do the same and we
would
>> >>discuss this at work. The manager changed it. After going in several
times,
>> >>complaining about FOX NEWS, they finally had CNN on all the time (no
longer
>> >>FOX).
>>
>> All the time, you say? So your 'mea culpa' above about being forced
to
>> eat their food because you were in a rush was bullshit, too? Apparently
you're
>> in there "all the time"?
>

> Every time is not 'all the time'.

Yes, I know. That is why I questioned YOUR use of the phrase "all the
time" above.

> The way I see it 'every' can equal as few as
> three times provided I or friends did the same thing each and every time
(ask
> for the brain rotting drivel of FOX News to be turned off in favor or
anything
> else). Typically, when eating lunch on the go, I am in a rush (isn't
everyone)?
> What is meant from the comment above is that after being asked several times
to
> turn the Disinformation Channel off, they (the owners) chose to leave it off
> "all the time" although I suspect you already knew that.

No, I (mistakenly) took you at your word when you said; "After going in

several times, complaining about FOX NEWS, they finally had CNN on all the
time (no longer FOX)."

Since most people seem to prefer Fox News channel, judging by the polls
above that I cited, I would thus assume that they switched it back to Fox
after you or one of your malcontent cohorts left.

>> >> Fox NEWS does not report real news.
>>
>> Please cite some fake news they reported.
>

> FOX News lies, lies and more lies (7 pages of hits):
> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=FOX+News+lies&aq=f

Again, this is why I asked for specifics, not a search result of hatefilled
rants with all its chaff for me to sort out. Take this one, for instance, from
your 'hits';

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jwi_DAef6g

Promisingly entitled "FOX News LIES Again About Obama Attending Muslim
Madrasah" it is a tape culled from CNN and makes absolutely no mention of Fox
at all!!

> FOX News Homeless Hating Robot (advocating aggravated assault on the
homeless in
> our society and laughing and joking about it the entire time:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy20X47iEi4

"Red Eye"? Do you not understand what a NEWS program is? Do you not know
the difference between lamebrained entertainment and "the News?"

>> >> On the View, one admitted that he doesn't check facts.
>>
>> "One"? One what? How about a name, better yet a quote? Even better, a
>> video? You do know that news agencies have people to do that, don't you?
>> They're called fact-checkers.
>>
>

> One (reporter) maybe? How about dozens of videos related to FOX News piss-
poor
> track record when checking facts before airing right wing nut job nonsense?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/results?
search_type=&search_query=FOX+News+fact+checking&aq=f

I'm not looking at any more lists of what you think just might be
'hits' when they clearly are not. If you don't have any answers, just admit
that you prefer a liberal bias to your news and move along.

>> >> Now the owner of FOX NEWS - Murdock admits that FOX uses brainwashing
>> >> techniques in order to increase viewership.
>>
>> Brainwashing? Now why do I think that in your case, only a light rinse
was
>> needed? What he 'admitted' was that they have commentary in their FICTION
>> ("fictional cartoons, comedies and drama shows") shows' dialogue about
global
>> warming and climate change. I've seen that in most every show on the tube,
not
>> just Fox. It's in the movies, too.
>>
>> >> Therefore, FOX NEWS is not real news. Please read:
>>
>> I did read it. There's nothing in there about FOX NEWS.
>

> There most certainly is. When stating their efforts to reduce the carbon
> footprint of FOX News Corp was "company-wide", then, by default "company-
wide"
> includes FOX (read: FAUX) News as well, no?

That has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the topic at hand here, that being
their inserting of "brainwashing messages" into their shows.

>> You're lying.
>
> No, you are incorrect (likely a slightly addled mind from watching too much
of
> Republi-Nazi Propaganda Channel (FOX [read: FAUX] News) specifically.

No. You're lying. Or you're too stupid to stay on the subject and hope to
cover that obvious shortcoming by insulting me.

Cliff

unread,
Jun 6, 2009, 8:26:06 AM6/6/09
to
On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:40:22 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:

>Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote in news:sksi259o2ik2d5svi0aarasju8ki3631td@
>4ax.com:
>
>> On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:57:38 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote in news:1ngi25h34vpddc9b16q60o26641k3k7g54@
>>>4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 10:41:04 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote in news:6dci259rd6etmde09o6ig6v0t02i57hjv6
>@
>>>>>4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 11:39:58 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com>
>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> STILL nothing? I'm starting to think this Animated GIF Man is full
>of
>>>>>>> shit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You snipped out the groups he lurks in.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't.
>>>>
>>>> They were not included in that post.
>>>
>>> Yes, but I didn't take them out, the other guy did. I didn't notice.
>>
>> Perhaps you should start over then.
>
> Perhaps I won't.

"STILL nothing? I'm starting to think this Animated GIF Man is full of shit"
you claimed.
Making a retraction?
--
Cliff

Jim Alder

unread,
Jun 6, 2009, 12:39:46 PM6/6/09
to
Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote in news:atnk251l2ma5cqic5psd7lafgaapv6fu6f@
4ax.com:

He has responded elsewhere in the thread. I'm not ready to retract my
assessment, tho, no.

Cliff

unread,
Jun 6, 2009, 2:02:48 PM6/6/09
to
On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 11:39:46 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:

>Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote in news:atnk251l2ma5cqic5psd7lafgaapv6fu6f@
>4ax.com:
>
>> On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:40:22 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> They were not included in that post.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, but I didn't take them out, the other guy did. I didn't notice.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps you should start over then.
>>>
>>> Perhaps I won't.
>>
>> "STILL nothing? I'm starting to think this Animated GIF Man is full of
>shit"
>> you claimed.
>> Making a retraction?
>
> He has responded elsewhere in the thread. I'm not ready to retract my
>assessment, tho, no.

You could find Faux "news" lies & winger/rethug propaganda yourself
easily enough.
Just turn it on.
--
Cliff

Message has been deleted

Jim Alder

unread,
Jun 7, 2009, 12:13:49 PM6/7/09
to
Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote in news:vlbl251l1l00543oso0l0j8nccap778a34@
4ax.com:

> You could find Faux "news" lies & winger/rethug propaganda yourself
> easily enough.
> Just turn it on.

In other words, you have no examples, there is no evidence, it's BS.

Cliff

unread,
Jun 7, 2009, 12:42:24 PM6/7/09
to
On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 11:13:49 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:

>Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote in news:vlbl251l1l00543oso0l0j8nccap778a34@
>4ax.com:
>
>> You could find Faux "news" lies & winger/rethug propaganda yourself
>> easily enough.
>> Just turn it on.
>
> In other words, you have no examples, there is no evidence, it's BS.

Plenty of examples.
Just turn it on & watch some. They "give" them to you for "free"
(sucker).
--
Cliff

Jim Alder

unread,
Jun 7, 2009, 1:44:27 PM6/7/09
to
Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote in news:ocrn255pnhv5dq2574533pggmtfqpu3dpt@
4ax.com:

it's BS. (idiot)

Cliff

unread,
Jun 7, 2009, 2:14:25 PM6/7/09
to
On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:44:27 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:

>Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote in news:ocrn255pnhv5dq2574533pggmtfqpu3dpt@
>4ax.com:
>
>> On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 11:13:49 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote in news:vlbl251l1l00543oso0l0j8nccap778a34@
>>>4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> You could find Faux "news" lies & winger/rethug propaganda yourself
>>>> easily enough.
>>>> Just turn it on.
>>>
>>> In other words, you have no examples, there is no evidence, it's BS.
>>
>> Plenty of examples.
>> Just turn it on & watch some. They "give" them to you for "free"
>> (sucker).
>
> In other words, you have no examples, there is no evidence,
>it's BS. (idiot)

They count on folks like you being unable to watch it &
think at the same time I suppose. Stay away from gum.
Or check any facts ever.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies_and_the_Lying_Liars_Who_Tell_Them
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Outfoxed&hl=en&emb=0&aq=-1&oq=#
--
Cliff

Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

Jim Alder

unread,
Jun 7, 2009, 7:22:02 PM6/7/09
to
Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:44:27 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>
>>Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote in news:ocrn255pnhv5dq2574533pggmtfqpu3dpt@
>>4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 11:13:49 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote in news:vlbl251l1l00543oso0l0j8nccap778a34
@
>>>>4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> You could find Faux "news" lies & winger/rethug propaganda yourself
>>>>> easily enough.
>>>>> Just turn it on.
>>>>
>>>> In other words, you have no examples, there is no evidence, it's BS.
>>>
>>> Plenty of examples.
>>> Just turn it on & watch some. They "give" them to you for "free"
>>> (sucker).
>>

>> in news:fd0o255223sggc4mf...@4ax.com


>
> They count on folks like you being unable to watch it &
> think at the same time I suppose. Stay away from gum.
> Or check any facts ever.

No danger, since you have none.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies_and_the_Lying_Liars_Who_Tell_Them

Like you ever read a book, even a pathetic one from a lame comic who has
to steal an election.

> http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Outfoxed&hl=en&emb=0&aq=-1&oq=#

Another idiot who says "See? I searched for a word and got hits! That
proves I'm right!"

Facts, dumb ass. Examples, moron. From the NEWS, shit-for-brains. I don't
care that their pundits have opinions.

Jim Alder

unread,
Jun 7, 2009, 7:23:30 PM6/7/09
to
righ...@ignorant.com wrote in news:o4bo255b4tm7cham2m94rokfcj1u4vc8p3@
4ax.com:

> ALDERLOON:

...

Jim Alder

unread,
Jun 7, 2009, 7:24:25 PM6/7/09
to
righ...@ignorant.com wrote in news:60bo2591m1tc84o75sru5l0tgea4qgl0p9@
4ax.com:

> ALDERLOON

...

Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

Jim Alder

unread,
Jun 8, 2009, 12:18:35 PM6/8/09
to
righ...@ignorant.com wrote in news:299q259chi1d5bq59odun1aps1el7e1eo8@

Cliff

unread,
Jun 8, 2009, 3:01:02 PM6/8/09
to
On Mon, 08 Jun 2009 08:50:52 -0600, righ...@ignorant.com wrote:

>>=============================================================================
>
>Citing Jim Alder for his amazing Usenet Intellect:
>
>
>
>"Oh, would you go fuck yourself?
>Jim Alder, Nov 20, 2007
>
>
>
>"You fucking cowardly cocksucker"
>Jim Alder, July 25, 2007
>
>
>
>"Fuck you and the whore you rode in on."
>Sept 11, 2007
>
>
>
>"Fuck off and die, hatemongering asshole."
>Jim Alder, Mar 28, 2007
>
>
>Everyone has trouble getting an intelligent discourse going
>with you, nincompoop. Now fuck off."
>Jim Alder, Sept 3, 2007
>
>
>"Shut the fuck up, you imterminably yammering hatemongering
>sack of flaming dog shit!"
>Jim Alder, May 11, 2007
>
>
>"What at fucking simpleassed disease you bigots are. Fuck you."
>Jim Alder, June 3, 2007
>
>
>"What the fuck is wrong with you, you disgusting subhuman garbage?"
>Jim Alder, May 1, 2007
>
>
>"You slimy little chickenshit punk."
>Jim Alder, Apr 7, 2004
>
>
>"You clueless punk"
>Jim Alder, Feb 29, 2004
>
>
>"Is this one of yours, anonymous punk?"
>Jim Alder, Feb 9, 2004
>
>
>"What a lying punk you are"
>Jim Alder, Jan 7, 2003
>
>
>"Show us all what a cowardly punk you really are"
>Jim Alder, Jan 21, 2004
>
>
>"Percentage of what, punk"?
>Jim Alder, Dec 3, 2002
>
>
>"You punk-ass dickhead of a troll"
>Jim Alder, Mar 30, 2004
>
>
>"He's just a sub-teen punk"
>Jim Alder, Feb 6, 2004
>
>
>"Fuck off, punk".
>Jim Alder, Jan 12, 2004
>
>
>"You may not be a chronological adolescent,
>but you're still a punk.
>Jim Alder, Nov 17, 2003
>
>
>"Let's put it back so others can see what a punk you are"
>Jim Alder, Aug 28, 2003
>
>
>"You hatemongering punk liar"
>Jim Alder, Sep 27, 2003
>
>
>
>
>
>>=======================================================================
>
>
>"Oh, fuck off, you little punk".
>Jim Alder, Sep 26, 2003
>
>
>"Blow me, punk."
>Jim Alder, Jun 18, 2003
>
>
>"I don't need to define "punk" for you too, do I, punk?"
>Jim Alder, Mar 30, 2004

I doubt he stole all of that from Faux "news".
But the language is Winger anyway.
--
Cliff

Cliff

unread,
Jun 8, 2009, 3:02:16 PM6/8/09
to
On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 18:24:25 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:

> Some people are more interested in
> creating heat than shedding light.

So that's anther blank stare, is it?
--
Cliff

Cliff

unread,
Jun 8, 2009, 3:11:43 PM6/8/09
to
On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 18:22:02 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:

>Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:44:27 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote in news:ocrn255pnhv5dq2574533pggmtfqpu3dpt@
>>>4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 11:13:49 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote in news:vlbl251l1l00543oso0l0j8nccap778a34
>@
>>>>>4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You could find Faux "news" lies & winger/rethug propaganda yourself
>>>>>> easily enough.
>>>>>> Just turn it on.
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words, you have no examples, there is no evidence, it's BS.
>>>>
>>>> Plenty of examples.
>>>> Just turn it on & watch some. They "give" them to you for "free"
>>>> (sucker).
>>>
>>> in news:fd0o255223sggc4mf...@4ax.com
>>
>> They count on folks like you being unable to watch it &
>> think at the same time I suppose. Stay away from gum.
>> Or check any facts ever.
>
> No danger, since you have none.

Why do you insist that you are incapable of thinking
for yourself?
Mind-rotted from Faux?

>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies_and_the_Lying_Liars_Who_Tell_Them
>
> Like you ever read a book, even a pathetic one from a lame comic who has
>to steal an election.

Truth hurts, eh?

>
>> http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Outfoxed&hl=en&emb=0&aq=-1&oq=#
>
> Another idiot who says "See? I searched for a word and got hits! That
>proves I'm right!"

IOW You do no thinking and don't care for the facts.

> Facts, dumb ass. Examples, moron. From the NEWS, shit-for-brains. I don't
>care that their pundits have opinions.

Which they report as facts & news and they are not opines, they are
lies (often quite blatent ones).
Ask any sixth grader.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-gellman/seeds-of-hatred---reaping_b_209818.html
"Seeds of Hatred---Reaping the Harvest"
--
Cliff

Jim Alder

unread,
Jun 8, 2009, 10:25:21 PM6/8/09
to
Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote in news:u0oq25p8k1ugrluv3lhgluuv5vsruh4s5r@
4ax.com:

> On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 18:24:25 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Some people are more interested in creating heat than shedding light.
>
> So that's anther blank stare, is it?

Give it a couple hours of deep thought and I'm sure you'll figure out the
common element.

--

Jim Alder

unread,
Jun 8, 2009, 10:35:45 PM6/8/09
to
Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote:

> Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>
>>Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> You could find Faux "news" lies & winger/rethug propaganda yourself
>>>>>>> easily enough.
>>>>>>> Just turn it on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In other words, you have no examples, there is no evidence, it's BS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Plenty of examples.
>>>>> Just turn it on & watch some. They "give" them to you for "free"
>>>>> (sucker).
>>>

>>> They count on folks like you being unable to watch it &
>>> think at the same time I suppose. Stay away from gum.
>>> Or check any facts ever.
>>
>> No danger, since you have none.
>
> Why do you insist that you are incapable of thinking
> for yourself?
> Mind-rotted from Faux?

Why do you think stupid insults are a good substitute for facts?

>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies_and_the_Lying_Liars_Who_Tell_Them
>>
>> Like you ever read a book, even a pathetic one from a lame comic who
has
>> to steal an election.
>
> Truth hurts, eh?

It can. Yet I feel utterly safe reading your posts.

>>> http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Outfoxed&hl=en&emb=0&aq=-1&oq=#
>>
>> Another idiot who says "See? I searched for a word and got hits! That
>> proves I'm right!"
>
> IOW You do no thinking and don't care for the facts.

What facts, dumb shit? Read your own goddamn hits and get specific! I can
do a google search for bigfoot and get 5,450,000 hits. That doesn't prove it
exists.

>> Facts, dumb ass. Examples, moron. From the NEWS, shit-for-brains. I
don't
>> care that their pundits have opinions.
>
> Which they report as facts & news and they are not opines, they are
> lies (often quite blatent ones).
> Ask any sixth grader.

I'm too busy asking a third grader, apparently.

> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-gellman/seeds-of-hatred---reaping_b_


209818.html
> "Seeds of Hatred---Reaping the Harvest"

They should use that as the name of their website.

Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

Cliff

unread,
Jun 9, 2009, 11:28:49 AM6/9/09
to
On Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:35:45 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:

>Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> You could find Faux "news" lies & winger/rethug propaganda yourself
>>>>>>>> easily enough.
>>>>>>>> Just turn it on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In other words, you have no examples, there is no evidence, it's BS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Plenty of examples.
>>>>>> Just turn it on & watch some. They "give" them to you for "free"
>>>>>> (sucker).
>>>>
>>>> They count on folks like you being unable to watch it &
>>>> think at the same time I suppose. Stay away from gum.
>>>> Or check any facts ever.
>>>
>>> No danger, since you have none.
>>
>> Why do you insist that you are incapable of thinking
>> for yourself?
>> Mind-rotted from Faux?
>
> Why do you think stupid insults are a good substitute for facts?

You are the one that watches, buys & loves Faux.

>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies_and_the_Lying_Liars_Who_Tell_Them
>>>
>>> Like you ever read a book, even a pathetic one from a lame comic who
>has
>>> to steal an election.
>>
>> Truth hurts, eh?
>
> It can. Yet I feel utterly safe reading your posts.

And watching Faux and trusting the liars there ....

>
>>>> http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Outfoxed&hl=en&emb=0&aq=-1&oq=#
>>>
>>> Another idiot who says "See? I searched for a word and got hits! That
>>> proves I'm right!"
>>
>> IOW You do no thinking and don't care for the facts.
>
> What facts, dumb shit?

Here goes the winger with names & insults.

>Read your own goddamn hits and get specific! I can
>do a google search for bigfoot and get 5,450,000 hits. That doesn't prove it
>exists.

No thought there.
An unarmed opponent.

>
>>> Facts, dumb ass. Examples, moron. From the NEWS, shit-for-brains. I
>don't
>>> care that their pundits have opinions.
>>
>> Which they report as facts & news and they are not opines, they are
>> lies (often quite blatent ones).
>> Ask any sixth grader.
>
> I'm too busy asking a third grader, apparently.
>
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-gellman/seeds-of-hatred---reaping_b_
>209818.html
>> "Seeds of Hatred---Reaping the Harvest"
>
> They should use that as the name of their website.

Faux?
Even Aljazeera is better.
http://english.aljazeera.net/
--
Cliff

Jim Alder

unread,
Jun 9, 2009, 1:10:20 PM6/9/09
to
Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote in news:i6vs25521tgjj224jp3mcvl7log6021f9j@
4ax.com:

> On Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:35:45 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>
>>Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Cliff <Clhu...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You could find Faux "news" lies & winger/rethug propaganda
yourself
>>>>>>>>> easily enough.
>>>>>>>>> Just turn it on.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In other words, you have no examples, there is no evidence, it's
BS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Plenty of examples.
>>>>>>> Just turn it on & watch some. They "give" them to you for "free"
>>>>>>> (sucker).
>>>>>
>>>>> They count on folks like you being unable to watch it &
>>>>> think at the same time I suppose. Stay away from gum.
>>>>> Or check any facts ever.
>>>>
>>>> No danger, since you have none.
>>>
>>> Why do you insist that you are incapable of thinking
>>> for yourself?
>>> Mind-rotted from Faux?
>>
>> Why do you think stupid insults are a good substitute for facts?
>
> You are the one that watches, buys & loves Faux.

Is that supposed to be an answer to my question? Are you even in the same
conversation?

>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies_and_the_Lying_Liars_Who_Tell_Them
>>>>
>>>> Like you ever read a book, even a pathetic one from a lame comic who
>>>> has to steal an election.
>>>
>>> Truth hurts, eh?
>>
>> It can. Yet I feel utterly safe reading your posts.
>
> And watching Faux and trusting the liars there ....

What lies, moron? Oh, that's right, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY!

>>>>> http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Outfoxed&hl=en&emb=0&aq=-1&oq=#
>>>>
>>>> Another idiot who says "See? I searched for a word and got hits! That
>>>> proves I'm right!"
>>>
>>> IOW You do no thinking and don't care for the facts.
>>
>> What facts, dumb shit?
>
> Here goes the winger with names & insults.

It's not an insult, it's a description.



>>Read your own goddamn hits and get specific! I can
>>do a google search for bigfoot and get 5,450,000 hits. That doesn't prove it
>>exists.
>
> No thought there.
> An unarmed opponent.
>
>>
>>>> Facts, dumb ass. Examples, moron. From the NEWS, shit-for-brains. I
>>>> don't care that their pundits have opinions.
>>>
>>> Which they report as facts & news and they are not opines, they are
>>> lies (often quite blatent ones).
>>> Ask any sixth grader.
>>
>> I'm too busy asking a third grader, apparently.
>>
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-gellman/seeds-of-hatred---reaping_b_
>>> 209818.html
>>> "Seeds of Hatred---Reaping the Harvest"
>>
>> They should use that as the name of their website.
>
> Faux?

No, dumbass, The Huffington Report.

> Even Aljazeera is better.

I can see where you would prefer it.

Cliff

unread,
Jun 10, 2009, 6:31:36 AM6/10/09
to

You need to meet gummer.
Though he may not have needed Faux for the mind rot.

>
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies_and_the_Lying_Liars_Who_Tell_Them
>>>>>
>>>>> Like you ever read a book, even a pathetic one from a lame comic who
>>>>> has to steal an election.
>>>>
>>>> Truth hurts, eh?
>>>
>>> It can. Yet I feel utterly safe reading your posts.
>>
>> And watching Faux and trusting the liars there ....
>
> What lies, moron? Oh, that's right, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY!

Provide examples of Faux .... LOL ...

>
>>>>>> http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Outfoxed&hl=en&emb=0&aq=-1&oq=#
>>>>>
>>>>> Another idiot who says "See? I searched for a word and got hits! That
>>>>> proves I'm right!"
>>>>
>>>> IOW You do no thinking and don't care for the facts.
>>>
>>> What facts, dumb shit?
>>
>> Here goes the winger with names & insults.
>
> It's not an insult, it's a description.

My statements.
You winger.

>
>>>Read your own goddamn hits and get specific! I can
>>>do a google search for bigfoot and get 5,450,000 hits. That doesn't prove it
>>>exists.
>>
>> No thought there.
>> An unarmed opponent.

See?

>>>>> Facts, dumb ass. Examples, moron. From the NEWS, shit-for-brains. I
>>>>> don't care that their pundits have opinions.
>>>>
>>>> Which they report as facts & news and they are not opines, they are
>>>> lies (often quite blatent ones).
>>>> Ask any sixth grader.
>>>
>>> I'm too busy asking a third grader, apparently.
>>>
>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-gellman/seeds-of-hatred---reaping_b_
>>>> 209818.html
>>>> "Seeds of Hatred---Reaping the Harvest"
>>>
>>> They should use that as the name of their website.
>>
>> Faux?
>
> No, dumbass, The Huffington Report.

You missed it, eh?

>
>> Even Aljazeera is better.
>
> I can see where you would prefer it.

Much more honest & lots more actual news.
Other networks/sources too.
--
Cliff

0 new messages