Fucktp on AOL
Tom Finley
: What post and where? I'm reading this on alt.aol.rejects, where
: James inappropriately crossposted this thread to (in fact, I think
: I'll try nad change it back, so if you want to respond, do it
: through Email).
Not you Dave, the smart one.
: In any case, I still have an AOL account.
How smart of you once you have real access.
: For a while, it was my
: only Usenet access. to date, the only person I have known who has
: called me an idiot is James--and he calls everyone an idiot, so it
: hardly counts.
Uh, yeah.
: So, if you say that all AOLers are idiots, and I
: am an AOLer and not an idiot, your claim fails.
You're an idiot for still using AOL when you now have real access.
: And even if you
: think I am an idiot, both you and James have AOL accounts, so
: you're either calling yourselves idiots, or again, your premise
: fails.
?
I'm using my account for making trouble on AOL? Geezuz... you
miss a lot, don't you.
: Now, if you were to claim that *most* AOLers were idiots, you *might*
: have an arguement.
I said that a while ago, but...
: I don't think I'd agree with you, but I wouldn't
: bother to argue the point. If you were to say that *a lot* of AOLers
: were idiots, I'd agree with you.
Most AOLers ARE idiots. Try to find a base where most of the
posts 1) aren't wrong 2) aren't incoherent 3) don't use the shift key
except when making those thousand long !!! strings. Now add to that
that only the smarter ones can even figure out HOW to post.
: In the same fashion, I would *not* make the claim that *all* 14-year
: olds are idiots, but I would say that *a lot* of them are. But I
: would never assume that any given 14-year old is an idiot merely due
: to his age, nor would I ever assume that an AOLer is an idiot simply
: due to his address. I might *expect* it in either case, but I would never
: *assume* it.
I wouldn't know... I see a lot of infantile crap coming out
of aol.com.
--
Tom Finley
tfi...@en.com
David Cassel
: Tom Finley (tfi...@en.com) wrote:
: : David Zeiger (dze...@netcom.com) wrote:
: : AOLers ARE idiots. Didn't you read Dave's post on the
: : subject a few posts back? Read it.
: What post and where? I'm reading this on alt.aol.rejects...
I posted it in this thread to alt.aol.rejects as well as alt.aol-sucks.
des...@crl.com /\ The average AOLer is a blithering child
/ \ whose opinions are worth approximately
=============================================================================
/__________\ the same as a pair of fetid dingo kidneys
RENEW-INC
>In article <38eo5i$j...@clam.rutgers.edu>, sla...@clam.rutgers.edu (World
>Domination in 5 Easy Steps) writes:
>
>#Jeez, I must have missed that post.. Remember, he and Egelhof are AOLers
>
>#too... So, he calls himself trash, and we're supposed to listen to
>#anything he posts, right? Heh.
>
>One more voice of sanity. Or is it the 'hof in another of his autoimmune
>responses???
Come on, admit it. When Adel23 isn't trolling,
she *is* a chuckle or two!
Steven Sugar, MD
David Zeiger
: : : AOLers ARE idiots. Didn't you read Dave's post on the
: : : subject a few posts back? Read it.
: : What post and where? I'm reading this on alt.aol.rejects...
: I posted it in this thread to alt.aol.rejects as well as alt.aol-sucks.
If you're refering to the post in which you listed 6 items, that in
no way proved that AOLers are idiots. The corporate stuff is
irrelevent (do you pay for cable TV? Does it still have commercials?
Are you an idiot if it does?). The spamming due to abuse of the
10 free hours is a problem with AOL corporate, not AOL users.
The rest is usually a result of the fact that usually, AOL user = newbie.
Newbie != idiot. From what I've seen, most AOL users who spend a
lot of time on Usenet quickly find another provider. Most of the
rest are in areas where there is no other choice, or the area
providers don't carry the newsgroup being posted to. For those
that only dabble on one or two newsgroups, AOL may well be cheaper.
--
David Zeiger Outer Space our One Salvation
dze...@netcom.com May God help Us in Our Search
--Blue Oyster Cult
"Monsters"
Tom Finley
: Could you please rephrase that coherently? "I'm using my account
: for making trouble on AOL?" makes absolutely no sense in context.
I'm using my account to make trouble on AOL.
: 1) most of the posts from any given place are wrong.
Wrong.
: 2) on the alt.binaries.* and alt.sex.* groups, you are correct. On
: *most* of the other newsgroups, the S/N ratio from AOL is much better.
Look around.
: 3) I see about as many non-shift users from AOL as I do from other
: places.
Boy, have I missed a lot.
: 4) I see about as many "no comment" messages from AOL as I do from
: other places. The difference is that when they're from AOL, it's
: just a blank message. From anywhere else, it's the entire quoted
: message the person was replying too.
That wasn't in my arguement, but okay.
: In any case, there is one big problem with your statement. You
: are claiming that *most* AOL users are idiots, but your statistics
: are coming from only AOL users who post.
And only the smart ones know HOW to post.
--
Tom Finley
tfi...@en.com
David Zeiger
: : So, if you say that all AOLers are idiots, and I
: : am an AOLer and not an idiot, your claim fails.
: You're an idiot for still using AOL when you now have real access.
I keep my AOL account for the same reason that James does, and for
the same reason I have a Compuserve account--for services other
than internet services.
: : And even if you
: : think I am an idiot, both you and James have AOL accounts, so
: : you're either calling yourselves idiots, or again, your premise
: : fails.
: ?
: I'm using my account for making trouble on AOL? Geezuz... you
: miss a lot, don't you.
Could you please rephrase that coherently? "I'm using my account
for making trouble on AOL?" makes absolutely no sense in context.
: Most AOLers ARE idiots. Try to find a base where most of the
: posts 1) aren't wrong 2) aren't incoherent 3) don't use the shift key
: except when making those thousand long !!! strings. Now add to that
: that only the smarter ones can even figure out HOW to post.
1) most of the posts from any given place are wrong.
2) on the alt.binaries.* and alt.sex.* groups, you are correct. On
*most* of the other newsgroups, the S/N ratio from AOL is much better.
3) I see about as many non-shift users from AOL as I do from other
places.
4) I see about as many "no comment" messages from AOL as I do from
other places. The difference is that when they're from AOL, it's
just a blank message. From anywhere else, it's the entire quoted
message the person was replying too.
In any case, there is one big problem with your statement. You
are claiming that *most* AOL users are idiots, but your statistics
are coming from only AOL users who post.
James M. Egelhof
writes:
> The rest is usually a result of the fact that usually, AOL user = newbie.
> Newbie != idiot.
AOL user = newbie
AOL user = "hackr"
AOL user = bloated egotistical denthead slob
"hackr" = idiot
bloated egotistical denthead slob = idiot
newbie who remains a newbie forever = idiot.
Case closed.
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Stuart Marshall
James M. Egelhof <jege...@cloud9.net> wrote:
>AOL user = newbie
Ahh.. no, actually _some_ AOL users = newbie.
>AOL user = "hackr"
A misspell of "hacker" I presume, and if so, how do you figure that?
>AOL user = bloated egotistical denthead slob
*shakes head slowly*
James, unless you happen to know all one million or so AOL users, I really
can't see why you would bother to come up with this, unless of course you
did it merely to troll, in which case it is well.... I'd like to say I'd
expect better but.........
>"hackr" = idiot
Presuming this is again a misspell of "hacker", how again, do you figure
this one out?
>bloated egotistical denthead slob = idiot
Well no, there can be _some_ bloated egotistical denthead slobs that are of
average to above average intelligence...
>newbie who remains a newbie forever = idiot.
*shrug*
A harsh call perhaps, they may just use the 'net on a infrequent basis, and
may never be on for a considently long enough time to get experienced.
Hardly grounds for calling them idiots.
Stuart Marshall.
"On the outskirts of every agony is an observant fellow who points."
Virginia Woolf.
David Zeiger
: : 1) most of the posts from any given place are wrong.
: Wrong.
Just "Wrong?" Tell you what. You back up your assertion that most posts
from AOL are wrong, and I'll back up mine that most posts from anywhere
are wrong.
: : 2) on the alt.binaries.* and alt.sex.* groups, you are correct. On
: : *most* of the other newsgroups, the S/N ratio from AOL is much better.
: Look around.
I have. Perhaps you should.
: : 3) I see about as many non-shift users from AOL as I do from other
: : places.
: Boy, have I missed a lot.
Apparantly you have. Actually, you probably have seen them, it's just
that more are coming from the address aol.com than any other *one*
address. But there are more people on AOL than any other one
provider, and the proportions are about the same.
: : 4) I see about as many "no comment" messages from AOL as I do from
: : other places. The difference is that when they're from AOL, it's
: : just a blank message. From anywhere else, it's the entire quoted
: : message the person was replying too.
: That wasn't in my arguement, but okay.
I assumed that this was what you meant by "not knowing how to post."
: : In any case, there is one big problem with your statement. You
: : are claiming that *most* AOL users are idiots, but your statistics
: : are coming from only AOL users who post.
: And only the smart ones know HOW to post.
Very wrong. Most people are lurkers in any one group. I's subscribed
to 76 newsgroups, I only post to 5 or so. I've known a lot of
people who never post to *any* group--not because they can't, but
because they see no need to. Do not confuse silence with ignorance.
John H. Hausmann
jege...@cloud9.net (James M. Egelhof) wrote:
> In article <dzeigerC...@netcom.com>, dze...@netcom.com (David Zeiger)
> writes:
> > The rest is usually a result of the fact that usually, AOL user = newbie.
> > Newbie != idiot.
>
> AOL user = newbie
> AOL user = "hackr"
> AOL user = bloated egotistical denthead slob
>
> "hackr" = idiot
> bloated egotistical denthead slob = idiot
> newbie who remains a newbie forever = idiot.
>
> Case closed.
>
Well, not really. You forgot one.
James M. Egelhof = AOL user
Ask your math teacher about equivalency. Gotta love it when James flames
himself...
--
u Two can bee a gradiate of th Roz scool of flaming. I usd to bee
able 2 spell reel gooood AND cud mak sense. Then i WenT to IKYABWAI
U. Now we is all fooked upp. On the pluz side, Unix now makee cents!
-a satisfied graduate
Tom Finley
: James M. Egelhof <jege...@cloud9.net> wrote:
: >AOL user = newbie
: Ahh.. no, actually _some_ AOL users = newbie.
Most AOL users = newbie. Look at some of the chat rooms.
: >AOL user = "hackr"
: A misspell of "hacker" I presume, and if so, how do you figure that?
He did mean hackr. He figures that because that's what they say.
: >AOL user = bloated egotistical denthead slob
: *shakes head slowly*
: James, unless you happen to know all one million or so AOL users, I really
: can't see why you would bother to come up with this, unless of course you
: did it merely to troll, in which case it is well.... I'd like to say I'd
: expect better but.........
Actually, I agree with you here, he's digging his own grave with
this statement...
: >"hackr" = idiot
: Presuming this is again a misspell of "hacker", how again, do you figure
: this one out?
Because only an idiot would misspell hacker all the time.
: >bloated egotistical denthead slob = idiot
: Well no, there can be _some_ bloated egotistical denthead slobs that are of
: average to above average intelligence...
*SHRUG* Just remember... I'm the inventer of the term dent head! =)
: >newbie who remains a newbie forever = idiot.
: *shrug*
: A harsh call perhaps, they may just use the 'net on a infrequent basis, and
: may never be on for a considently long enough time to get experienced.
: Hardly grounds for calling them idiots.
I hope that they don't use AOL that often, for their own/mothers/
fathers/company that pays their bills sake.
--
Tom Finley
tfi...@en.com
EKay
(John H. Hausmann) writes:
>James M. Egelhof = AOL user
John,
You have so much to learn about the depth of little Jimmie.
James M. Egelhof = AOL user
Lets break this down a bit
James M. Eglehof =
*Alter ego number one
Screen Name: EnCrusher
*Alter ego number two
Screen Name: JamesE33
*Alter ego number 3 with bio included for your reading enjoyment
Screen Name: Male 16 NY
Member Name: James Egelhof
Location: Larchmont, NY USA
Birthdate: 1/9/78
Sex: Male
Marital Status: Single
Computers: Sexy ones.
Hobbies: Sex.
Occupation: Sex.
Quote: "I want sex."
*Alter ego number 4
Screen Name: JEgelhof
Member Name: James "Hamster" Egelhof <jege...@cloud9.net>
Location: Larchmont, NY USA
Birthdate: 1/9/78
Sex: Male
Marital Status: Single
Computers: Apple Macintosh PowerBook Duo 230
Hobbies: Abusing newspaper editors, despising Mac haters, flaming
AOL, promoting world socialism, and other such subversive activities.
Occupation: Professional pimp (and junior at Horace Mann School on the
side)
Quote: "Flames and complaints about AOL."
So in reality, little Jimmie is not one AOL user, but he in fact is FOUR
AOL users.
Evan
Jason Costomiris
: You have so much to learn about the depth of little Jimmie.
Yeah, it is getting kinda deep in here.
: *Alter ego number one
: Screen Name: EnCrusher
Ensign Crusher? Wesley? Weezly? This is just too much.
The more I read about this kid, the more I laugh at his hypocrisy.
--
Jason Costomiris | The disappointed disappear
jco...@netaxs.com | like they were never here...
I speak for me. Just me. If you |
thought otherwise, you were wrong.| -Corgan, 1993
Tom Finley
: Just "Wrong?" Tell you what. You back up your assertion that most posts
: from AOL are wrong, and I'll back up mine that most posts from anywhere
: are wrong.
Just wrong. I said most AOLers posts are either wrong, or have
lots of errors.
: I have. Perhaps you should.
My god. You know absolutely nothing.
: Apparantly you have. Actually, you probably have seen them, it's just
: that more are coming from the address aol.com than any other *one*
: address.
From ANY address.
: But there are more people on AOL than any other one
: provider, and the proportions are about the same.
The proportions? Do you mean AOLers to non-AOLer internet guys?
Wrong. 20 million internet users. 1 million AOLers.
Even if your statement were accurate, since there are 20 million
people on the internet, and 1 million AOLers, the non-shifters (look!
a new term from Finley!) would have to be 1/20 (AOL N/S to N-N/S), and
it's more like 2/1. Again, look around.
: I assumed that this was what you meant by "not knowing how to post."
Oh, well, that wasn't what I meant. In fact, I forgot what I
meant, but I'm sure it wasn't that. Actually, I see more empty posts
from other sites than from AOL.
: Very wrong. Most people are lurkers in any one group. I's subscribed
: to 76 newsgroups, I only post to 5 or so. I've known a lot of
: people who never post to *any* group--not because they can't, but
: because they see no need to. Do not confuse silence with ignorance.
I said "And only the smart ones know HOW to post."
Let's look at this in if them form!
If you post, then you are smart.
The converse of that statement would be...
If you are smart, then you post.
Now you know that converses aren't always right. Instead of using
flawed logic can you find any REAL arguements against what I say?
--
Tom Finley
tfi...@en.com
David Zeiger
: In article <dzeigerC...@netcom.com>, dze...@netcom.com (David Zeiger)
: > The rest is usually a result of the fact that usually, AOL user = newbie.
: > Newbie != idiot.
: AOL user = newbie
: AOL user = "hackr"
: AOL user = bloated egotistical denthead slob
: "hackr" = idiot
: bloated egotistical denthead slob = idiot
: newbie who remains a newbie forever = idiot.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Well, I have no idea what "hackr" means, bout could you give some
empirical data on the line I marked with ^s? I'd really like to
see it. Or are you just blowing smoke again, James?
Stuart Marshall
> Most AOL users = newbie. Look at some of the chat rooms.
Well yes, but on the flip side, IRC isn't exactly a hive of rational
and well-thought out debate. I wouldn't know exactly how many of the AOLers
are "net inexperienced", but certainly I would expect a high proportion,
especially with AOL's angle on the market. Then again, I expect most
commercial services are getting an increase in new users/ old user
ratios, and with the ever-expanding nature of the 'net, I can't see this
abating.
> Because only an idiot would misspell hacker all the time.
*shrug*
I never really came across the constant misspelling of "hacker" so I
can't comment.
Stuart Marshall.
"This universe must not fail"
Sir Oliver Lodge.
James M. Egelhof
>
> *Alter ego number 3 with bio included for your reading enjoyment
> Screen Name: Male 16 NY
> Member Name: James Egelhof
> Location: Larchmont, NY USA
> Birthdate: 1/9/78
> Sex: Male
> Marital Status: Single
> Computers: Sexy ones.
> Hobbies: Sex.
> Occupation: Sex.
> Quote: "I want sex."
If AOL's software was as good as you claim it is, it should have told you
"user Male 16 NY deleted," because that's the fact of the matter.
Moron.
-james, wondering if ekay knows what a troll is
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James M. Egelhof
writes:
> : *Alter ego number one
> : Screen Name: EnCrusher
>
> Ensign Crusher? Wesley? Weezly? This is just too much.
>
> The more I read about this kid, the more I laugh at his hypocrisy.
Hmmm... that's my bro's screen name. I guess AOL put the profile update where
it puts news and mail > 32K.
James M. Egelhof
>
> James M. Egelhof = AOL user
False.
James M. Egelhof = AOL account holder
(which is how he knows it sucks, you moron)
Important distinction.
James M. Egelhof
: : David Zeiger (dze...@netcom.com) wrote:
:
: : : 1) most of the posts from any given place are wrong.
:
:: Wrong.
:
: Just "Wrong?" Tell you what. You back up your assertion that most
: posts from AOL are wrong, and I'll back up mine that most posts
: from anywhere are wrong.
Remember that it's against the AOL Terms of Service to post inaccurate
messages.
:
: : : 2) on the alt.binaries.* and alt.sex.* groups, you are correct.
: On : : *most* of the other newsgroups, the S/N ratio from AOL is
:much better.
:
: : Look around.
:
: I have. Perhaps you should.
How can you POSSIBLY find the AOL S/N ratio high ANYWHERE? All the
intelligent people on AOL have the brains to get Usenet feeds from somewhere
else, which leaves only the truly dumb to use that crappy "newsgroups"
software.
>
> : : 3) I see about as many non-shift users from AOL as I do from
> other : : places.
>
> : Boy, have I missed a lot.
>
> Apparantly you have. Actually, you probably have seen them, it's
> just that more are coming from the address aol.com than any other *one*
> address. But there are more people on AOL than any other one
> provider, and the proportions are about the same.
Why is it my mailing-list bozo filter kills about fifteen messages a say from
AOL that say only "unsubscribe" or "stop sending me mail" or "how do i get
off this list"?
>
> : : 4) I see about as many "no comment" messages from AOL as I do
> from : : other places. The difference is that when they're from AOL,
> it's : : just a blank message. From anywhere else, it's the entire
> quoted : : message the person was replying too.
>
> : That wasn't in my arguement, but okay.
>
> I assumed that this was what you meant by "not knowing how to post."
The problem with AOL is not that one can't figure out how to post. The
problem is that, very often, one cannot post, because the software is usually
broken.
>
> : : In any case, there is one big problem with your statement.
> You : : are claiming that *most* AOL users are idiots, but your
> statistics : : are coming from only AOL users who post.
>
> : And only the smart ones know HOW to post.
>
> Very wrong. Most people are lurkers in any one group. I's subscribed
> to 76 newsgroups, I only post to 5 or so. I've known a lot of people who
> never post to *any* group--not because they can't, but because they see
> no need to. Do not confuse silence with ignorance.
So, you're telling me the only smart AOLers are the ones who keep their
mouths shut? I think that might actually be true.
James M. Egelhof
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Well, I have no idea what "hackr" means
An idiot who comes into alt.2600 and says something like:
our fascist sysadmins put f00lpr00f on all our maks.
how do i k1ll f00lpr00f wihout shift key boot disk or interrupt switch
You know... people who think Ctrl-Alt-Delete is a secret and all the porno is
on 127.0.0.1.
>, bout could you give
> some empirical data on the line I marked with ^s?
How is empirical data relevant here, moron?
David Zeiger
: : But there are more people on AOL than any other one
: : provider, and the proportions are about the same.
: The proportions? Do you mean AOLers to non-AOLer internet guys?
: Wrong. 20 million internet users. 1 million AOLers.
: Even if your statement were accurate, since there are 20 million
: people on the internet, and 1 million AOLers, the non-shifters (look!
: a new term from Finley!) would have to be 1/20 (AOL N/S to N-N/S), and
: it's more like 2/1. Again, look around.
Assume 300,000 people on AOL use Usenet. Assume 1/10 of them are
non-shifters. That's 30,000 non-shifters from AOL. Assume all
30,000 Netcom subscribers use Usenet. Again, assume 1/10 of them
are non-shifters. That's only 3,000. Very few providers are
going to be much above Netcom's numbers.
Now, basic psycology. From the sheer mass of numbers, you are
going to believe that all/most AOLers are non-shifters, but in
reality, the proportions are the same.
: : Very wrong. Most people are lurkers in any one group. I's subscribed
: : to 76 newsgroups, I only post to 5 or so. I've known a lot of
: : people who never post to *any* group--not because they can't, but
: : because they see no need to. Do not confuse silence with ignorance.
: I said "And only the smart ones know HOW to post."
: Let's look at this in if them form!
: If you post, then you are smart.
OK, fine. If you post, then you are smart. If you do not post, then
your intellegence is unknown. My claim is that the majority of people
who use Usenet, on AOL, or just about anywhere else, do not post.
Thus, the intellegence of most people on AOL can not be determined.
You claimed that most people on AOL are idiots. Either you can not
accept my premise that most people do not post, or your own logic
is flawed.
Tom Finley
: Tommie...tommie...tommie!!! I think you simply crave me bod!!!!!
Sara...sara...sara!!!!!! Post in alt.test!!!!!
--
Tom Finley
tfi...@en.com
John H. Hausmann
> In article <hausmann-281...@192.0.2.1>, haus...@netcom.com
> (John H. Hausmann) writes:
>
> >James M. Egelhof = AOL user
>
> John,
>
> You have so much to learn about the depth of little Jimmie.
>
> James M. Egelhof = AOL user
>
...
> So in reality, little Jimmie is not one AOL user, but he in fact is FOUR
> AOL users.
Or all things being equal, loser * 4. Explains a lot.
EKay
jege...@cloud9.net (James M. Egelhof) writes:
>If AOL's software was as good as you claim it is, it should have told you
>"user Male 16 NY deleted," because that's the fact of the matter.
I never claimed it was good. The fact is the above exists on AOL although
it did say that you are the proud owner of Adel23 which is your
replacement of Male 16 NY
>Moron.
Wow what a command of the english language you have my boy
>-james, wondering if ekay knows what a troll is
Evan, not giving a shit what Encrusher is wondering.
EKay
>Hmmm... that's my bro's screen name. I guess AOL put the profile update
>where it puts news and mail > 32K.
Having looked at all of your profiles, I seriously doubt it.
Evan
James M. Egelhof
> : I never really came across the constant misspelling of "hacker" so
> I : can't comment.
>
> Neither do I. I think that's what Egelhof was saying, another
> way of saying AOLer = idiot.
You need to subscribe to alt.2600 to really see AOL idiocy in action. While
the net.cool people discuss NetWare, firewalls, and other such topics, you'll
see your hapless AOL user come in and pour out idiocy like these examples:
* don't sware its against tos
* how do i bypass f00lpr00f without a shift key
* i want to upgrade my 486 mac quadra 650 to pentium... how do i du it
* how do i get to the dos prompt on a powermac
* i am a hackr <---- This is why I used that misspelling
More examples available on request.
Tom Finley
: the net.cool people discuss NetWare, firewalls, and other such topics, you'll
: see your hapless AOL user come in and pour out idiocy like these examples:
I have that newsgroup, I just never read it. I think I will now
though. =)
: * don't sware its against tos
I laughed so hard at this,
: * how do i bypass f00lpr00f without a shift key
Back when I was in 8th grade I disabled Fool Proof on the school
computers. They had software locked the hard drives however, so I brought
in my handy dandy DA that disables that too and I threw away every copy
of Fool Proof and put the software lock back on. I almost got expelled
for some reason... it was just a childish prank. The computer teacher
(someone sued her and she was reassigned somewhere else) hated me and told
everyone I was immoral.
: * i want to upgrade my 486 mac quadra 650 to pentium... how do i du it
486 Mac Quadra? Do they mean an OrangePC card or can't tell the
difference between 040/601 and 486/Pentium (I have the feeling I'll be
sorry I asked =]).
: * how do i get to the dos prompt on a powermac
: * i am a hackr <---- This is why I used that misspelling
Wait, I'll read that right now with screen (AOL doesn't allow
multiple terminals on one/any login! I love Unix!).
: More examples available on request.
Mail me.
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Lookout, Sara the Sexy Fox, as she likes to call herself, doesn't
approve of this mark.
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James M. Egelhof
>
> I never claimed it was good. The fact is the above exists on AOL
> although
> it did say that you are the proud owner of Adel23 which is
> your replacement of Male 16 NY
Nope, it didn't say that, because (a) AOL doesn't give out information like
that and (b) you're just totally wrong.
::shakes head wearily:: Maybe they had something right when the castrated
idiots earlier in the century.
James M. Egelhof
Rosenstengel) writes:
> You have to use it to know that it sucks. Holding an account doesn't
> tell you anything.
I am not an AOL Internet user.
There are some things, especially on the Mac, that cannot be found anywhere
but on AOL. Therefore, as a Mac developer, I have little choice but to keep
an account there. I do not consider myself part of the drooling "Newsgroups"
crowd on AOL.
James M. Egelhof
Rosenstengel) writes:
> In article <941030165...@jegelhof.dialup.cloud9.net>, James
> >The problem with AOL is not that one can't figure out how to post.
> >The problem is that, very often, one cannot post, because the software
> >is usually broken.
>
> is an idiot, it's just crappy software?
It's one problem, yes. But even tin can't make up for a deficient mind like
yours.
Tom Finley
> You've done equally as bad(or worse) in previous incarnations.
> Pot-Kettle-Black, oh feeble flamer.
When have I done this Hausmann? Site ONE message.
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David Zeiger
: I really don't see that many newbie's on the net
: from nonAOL (look! another term by Finley!) sources.
You haven't seen many NetCruiser (NetLoser) subscribers, eh? Address
of ix.netcom.com, usually indentifiable because thir word wrap looks like
this.
"Easy-to-use" GUI interface, and Netcom is giving the starter packs
away. Currently 10,000 strond and growing...
David Zeiger
: off this list"?
Perhaps becaue you're on a no-brain mailing list? The one I'm on
has never gotten one from an AOL user, though I do get 1 or 2 a week
from other sites.
: The problem with AOL is not that one can't figure out how to post. The
: problem is that, very often, one cannot post, because the software is usually
: broken.
Agreed. But that in no way reflects on the users.
David Zeiger
: >, bout could you give
: > some empirical data on the line I marked with ^s?
: How is empirical data relevant here, moron?
Well, you claim that AOL users remain newbies forever. I assume
you have some data to support this assertion. So let's see it.
Track a signifigant number of AOL users, and show that they keep
doing newbie-type things long after they should know better.
Or in other words, put up or shut up.
I know, you won't do either...
David Zeiger
: : OK, fine. If you post, then you are smart. If you do not post, then
: : your intellegence is unknown. My claim is that the majority of people
: : who use Usenet, on AOL, or just about anywhere else, do not post.
: : Thus, the intellegence of most people on AOL can not be determined.
: So what does this change?
: : You claimed that most people on AOL are idiots. Either you can not
: : accept my premise that most people do not post, or your own logic
: : is flawed.
: Look in the AOL chat rooms. Look at the forums. Just LOOK.
: God! Open your eyes! Just LOOK with your ten free hours. Tell me
: what you see. Do you see intelligent people? No, you don't.
I have looked. And I do see a lot of stupid people--I have never
said otherwise. But I have by no means seen enough to make the claim
that *most* are stupid. The fact that you noted the a.s groups as a
place to go shows your bias. All AOLers don't go to those groups.
But a lot of the stupid ones do. You are going to where the
moron concentration is highest, and using it as an example of the
average.
For a counter, I offer rec.arts.sf.starwars. Lord knows this *should*
be popular among the AOL crowd. In the past week or so, I can recall
only one idiot. And even that is questionable--he posted the same message
15 times with different subject headings, but he did it intentionally
(thus he is more accurately classified as a jerk, not an idiot :-).
OTOH, the newsgroup is literally *filled* with people who a) quote
3 pages of previous stuff, then add one line. b) Ask questions
about something that's in the FAQ. c) ask/say something that has
been asked/said 7 times in the past 2 days. But this stuff is not
coming from AOL.
Citizens Against Truth
>You have to use it to know that it sucks.
Why do I get the feeling this discussion now belongs in alt.sex?
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Godless
>Tom Finley (tfi...@en.com) wrote:
>: I really don't see that many newbie's on the net
>: from nonAOL (look! another term by Finley!) sources.
>You haven't seen many NetCruiser (NetLoser) subscribers, eh? Address
>of ix.netcom.com, usually indentifiable because thir word wrap looks like
>this.
>"Easy-to-use" GUI interface, and Netcom is giving the starter packs
>away. Currently 10,000 strond and growing...
Dave,
Those of us who tried netcruiser were smart enough to realize that it
is useless. The morons on AOL are to stupid to see that there is a lot
better out there if they only looked.
--
Bob Trieger
god...@netcom.com
"If you finger me, may I suggest washing your hands afterwards?"
Tom Finley
: but on AOL.
What are you talking about? I have a text file of 180 FTP sites.
Tell you what. FTP (or NCFTP) to mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu. That site gets
new stuff (pub/info-mac/rec) all the time.
: Therefore, as a Mac developer, I have little choice but to keep
: an account there. I do not consider myself part of the drooling "Newsgroups"
: crowd on AOL.
You develop? Cool. Cool.
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Tom Finley
: You haven't seen many NetCruiser (NetLoser) subscribers, eh? Address
I hate those posts. They annoy me so much because I get a really
bad
headache trying to read their posts (note the word wrap... realistic, huh?).
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James M. Egelhof
H. Hausmann) writes:
>
> A distinction only your mind could hold. When asked why he still has
> an AOL account, James M. replies, "I use it for databases and stuff
> I can't get any where else". Sound like an Account holder OR a
> User {albeit, a user who doesn't use it much}? I know it sucks because
> I'm an ex-user. You know it sucks because you are a user. Who's the
> moron, James? The person that hands S. Case $10/mo or the one that
> refuses to.
The one who would prefer not to, but has to, because AOL has a monopoly on
certain Mac developer-support areas.