ebay censorship
gret
critical of ebay, it DID NOT violate ebay rules for posting. Nonetheless
ebay CENSORED my posting. IS THIS IRAQ? What is the violation that
caused my post to be CENSORED? The fact that I quoted an ebay letter to
me about how they cancelled my auctions for "keyword spamming"??? This
is what their ROBOTS sent me after cancelling FIVE of my auctions:
"Your listing(s) contains the following information, " ((( Insert
keyword spamming information from auction here))) ". Listing your items
in this way
is considered "Keyword Spamming", which is not allowed on eBay.
Therefore, we have ended this item(s)"
So.... I've asked over & over - HOW CAN "they" CANCEL AN AUCTION & GIVE
ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR DOING SO? Probably the same way they can CENSOR
my views there - ILLEGALLY. I encourage others to stand up & post their
negative experiences with ebay ROBOTS. THIS IS AMERICA. WE CANNOT STAND
FOR INJUSTICE!
Ebay sucks big time....
Peter van der Goes
quoted it. They own the company, *they* make the rules. You agreed to the
rules when you chose to list your stuff on Ebay.
Nothing *illegal* about any censoring they did. Again, it's their company,
web site and forum. Protections against violations of the Bill of Rights are
for citizens vs. *the government*, and do not apply to a private company.
Don't like what they did? Don't partonize Ebay.
"gret" <gb...@listoffrsglr22.com> wrote in message
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gret
how long have you worked for ebay? haha
Here's what "they" just sent me:
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"Recently we became aware that your eBay registered account was involved in the
following activity:
Discussion or reposting of deleted posts or discussion of no longer registered
members.
which is not permitted at eBay."
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I didn't RE-POST anything! It's an entirely NEW post.
Notice it says "DISCUSSION OF DELETED POSTS IS NOT PERMITTED AT EBAY".
So, I can't.... YOU can't... NO-ONE CAN DISCUSS IT.
Sounds like CENSORSHIP to ME!
>Don't like what they did? Don't partonize Ebay
Another attempt to CENSOR & CONTROL.
Why can't problems with ebay be brought to light? Why can't suggestions be
made? Why are things BLACK or WHITE? Are we working to make things better or do
we all have to shut-up and OBEY the King?
These are not just problems with ebay... these are problems with the world!
Your reply is indicative of the intolerance & one-dimensional polarity in our
society! Instead of working towards an ANSWER, we are forced into SUBMISSION.
grrrrrrrr
Michael R. Kesti
>So.... I've asked over & over - HOW CAN "they" CANCEL AN AUCTION & GIVE
>ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR DOING SO? Probably the same way they can CENSOR
>my views there - ILLEGALLY. I encourage others to stand up & post their
>negative experiences with ebay ROBOTS. THIS IS AMERICA. WE CANNOT STAND
>FOR INJUSTICE!
You obviously need to attend a remedial civics class.
>Ebay sucks big time....
If this is what you believe then you are a fool to continue doing
business with eBay.
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Michael Kesti | "And like, one and one don't make
| two, one and one make one."
mke...@gv.net | - The Who, Bargain
Peter van der Goes
It's real simple.
If you don't like the way Ebay does business, *don't* continue to do
business with them.
Got it?
Trying to turn your little personal disargeement with a commercial
enterprise into some sort of crusade by spouting tired old platitudes isn't
doing a darn thing to correct what *you* see as unfair restrictions on what
you can say on *Ebay's* forum.
Whining here does nothing but make *you* look stupid.
Wanna do something? Go see an attorney and see if you have a case.
"gret" <gb...@listoffrsglr22.com> wrote in message
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Scott_Sev
Are you keyword spamming?
bp
> So.... I've asked over & over - HOW CAN "they" CANCEL AN AUCTION & GIVE
> ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR DOING SO? Probably the same way they can CENSOR
> my views there - ILLEGALLY. I encourage others to stand up & post their
> negative experiences with ebay ROBOTS. THIS IS AMERICA. WE CANNOT STAND
> FOR INJUSTICE!
What makes you think this is illegal? What law requires eBay to be fair,
reasonable, or allow free speech on their message boards?
CAPT. JOHN
thier board. He says eBay pulled one of his auctions without even giving
him a reason, AND then says they said it was because he was using
keyword spamming. If he thinks he's going to get any sympothy here, he's
sadly mistaken.
Just from what he's posted here and his tone, I for one know why eBay
pulled his auction and why they probably censored / pulled his post on
thier board.
Capt. John
El Franko de Bozo
yellow background under "keyword spamming".
There are many different ways you could violate this policy. What exactly
were your titles for your 5 auctions that were cancelled?
Did you also know that it is the 'sellers responsibility' to make sure not
to violate eBay policy? You need to research what you're up to first before
you list.
i.e. --Do you look into the swimming pool before you jump in to see that
there is actually water in there?
You could help us understand your circumstances better if you posted an
example of the title you used in your listings.
As far as your post to the community board, I dunno, not sure what you did
to upset the central scrutinizer!
Inquiring clowns want to know!
Keyword Spamming
What is Keyword Spamming?
Keyword spamming is the practice of including brand names or other
inappropriate "keywords" for the purpose of gaining attention or diverting
users to a listing. Keyword spamming is unfair to members who may be
searching for a specific item and receive search engine results of listings
that are not selling the item. It is also a manipulation of eBay's search
engine. Users often are confused and frustrated by such tactics. Certain
uses of brand names may also constitute trademark infringement and could
expose sellers to legal liability.
eBay Policy on Keyword Spamming
Excessive use of keywords, including (but not limited to) brand names,
which are referenced for the purpose of attracting or diverting buyers to a
listing is considered keyword spamming and is not permitted.
Examples of Keyword Spamming
Here are some examples of keyword spamming that are not permitted:
Lists of words. (1.) The inclusion of words that are simply listed to
attract viewers via our search engines and are not part of a context based
item description. For example, it would not be permissible to state the
following in your item description: "oil reproductions, art recreations,
gallery, art gallery, impressionist, impressionism, oil paintings,
reproduction, painting, recreation, copy, quality, reproductions,
recreations, realistic, copies, paintings, old masters, replica, posters,
prints, video..." (2.) The inclusion of words that are simply listed to
divert viewers to your other eBay items. For example, it would not be
permissible to state "Please view my other eBay listings for Beanie Babies,
vintage Barbies, Rolex watches, and Chanel scarves." It would be acceptable
to state "Please view my other eBay listings."
Hidden text. HTML included in the listing, such as hidden text (for example
"white on white") or source tags (meta or header tags) are not permitted.
Drop down boxes. Inclusion of a drop down box in order to provide buyers
with a list of items offered in other listings. Because the search engine
will pick up words listed within the box, this interferes with the search
results, and is thus not permitted. As an alternative, sellers may include
drop down boxes on their About Me pages, as this would not interfere with
the search engine.
Improper Use of Brand Names
Related to the keyword spamming issue is the use of brand names in your
title or description. Please bear in mind that the following will also not
be permitted:
Extra brand names in title. Any use of a trademarked (brand) name in the
title of a listing where products of that brand name are not being offered.
Not this, not that. A title or description for a listing that reads, for
example: "Gucci Purse (not Louis Vuitton, Armani, Prada)"; or "I also sell
Gap, Nike, Gucci, Rolex, etc."; or "Please see my other listings for Beanie
Babies, Pokemon and Star Wars items."
Improper Trademark Usage
Generally speaking, reference to more than one brand name in a description
is considered keyword spamming. Under some circumstances it may be
permissible to refer to other brands for comparison purposes or if you are
selling a group of items in a single listing.
However, some uses of other brand names may be considered by the owners of
the relevant trademarks to be infringements of their rights. For example,
use of phrases such as "Chanel-like," "Movado-style," "Gucci?," "Prada" (in
quotes) or "This "X" brand bag has leather just like a Coach bag" will
likely lead to increased scrutiny of your listing by rights owners and the
implication that the goods you are offering are not authentic.
In such cases, the trademark owner may submit a sworn statement to us
concerning the alleged infringement through our Verified Rights Owner (VeRO)
Program and request that your listing be ended early by eBay. We realize
that many of you prefer to use a brand name for comparative purposes to best
illustrate your item's particular style. However, we encourage you to first
contact the trademark owner in question for their guidance as to what they
consider to be permissible, before making any questionable use of a brand
name.
Fred A. Murphy
On 29-Dec-2002, gret <gb...@listoffrsglr22.com> wrote:
> So.... I've asked over & over - HOW CAN "they" CANCEL AN AUCTION & GIVE
> ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR DOING SO? Probably the same way they can CENSOR
> my views there - ILLEGALLY.
Freedom of the press means that the owner of the press can print what he
wants.
It doesn't mean he has to even sell you advertising space.
Buy your own press.
--
"My family's coat of arms ties in back. Is this normal?"
Ben Blakley
something, i.e message board.
But I would expect them to let you know about the auction de-listing. After
all you did pay for that service.
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Ben Blakley
Sell Online Canada
www.ListBay.ca
"gret" <gb...@listoffrsglr22.com> wrote in message
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James May
was is and is not posted on THEIR website.
Fair? That's another question. Does eBay post messages regarding you
and/or your business on their website? Did eBay post a public message
saying you were "keyword spamming" in one of your ads? If I were to violate
your rules, would you allow me to post negative messages on your website
about you? If you were unhappy with the way your local auto dealer sold
their vehicles, do you think they would allow you to post a defamatory
comment on a billboard leased by them?
Get real! You act as if you had a "right" to post to their message boards.
Those boards are not public property, they are privately owned and
operated. They have every right, and indeed every responsibility to
monitor and control what is acceptable on their site.
Don't get me wrong, I strongly disagree with many of their policies and
ways of doing business. But I will defend their right to do so, just as I
would defend your right if it were your website.
If you are unhappy with the fact that they cancelled your auctions, it's
simple to fix. Stop violating their rules.
You claim they cancelled your auction for no reason, yet it seems pretty
clear that they cancelled them because you were violating their rules
regarding keyword spamming. Perhaps you should read their listing policies
regarding keyword spamming.
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