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As winter approaches and people begin to prepare their vehicles for
the cold weather, the U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance wants to alert sportsmen
that getting a good deal on PEAK and SIERRA brands of antifreeze and deicer
could jeopardize America's hunting heritage.

A rebate offered with the purchase of assorted PEAK Performance
Products will credit buyers $1 to $2 per gallon of product. A section on
the rebate form allows consumers to donate their rebate to the American
Humane Association (AHA).

The AHA opposes all hunting and trapping. This year, it demonstrated
its opposition to outdoor sports by supporting federal legislation, HR 1472,
to ban bear hunting over bait. It called the practice "unsporting,
unethical, and barbaric." It also supports Congressional legislation, HB
1800, to ban trapping.

Take Action! Sportsmen should contact Old World Industries, Inc., the
company that produces PEAK and SIERRA antifreezes. Tell the company that
its promotion of the AHA, an anti-hunting organization, is unacceptable to
sportsmen across the nation and should be stopped immediately. Make sure
Old World Industries knows that the AHA has an agenda to end America's
outdoor heritage, thus destroying over 100 years of wildlife conservation
practices. Send your comments to Mr. James Bryan, President, Old World
Industries, Inc., 4065 Commercial Ave., Northbrook, IL 60062. Phone: (847)
559-2000. Toll Free (800) 323-5440. Fax (847) 559-2266.

Keep in mind that the best way to make an impression is to send
messages using telephone or fax machine. Phones ringing off the hook and
busy fax machines make poignant statements.


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Oct 24, 2003, 11:08:30 AM10/24/03
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Diddy,
Can you get them to send you a copy of the correspondence they sent to AHA
and post it here?

Let me know ... thanks.

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"diddy" <di...@nospam.diddy.net> wrote in message
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> I called them, they said they have ceased the relationship with the humane
> society because of sportsmans complaints like mine.
> They are recalling their program. They were unaware that the Humane
Society
> was anti-hunting. Now they are aware, they have also sent the message to
> the Humane Society WHY.
>
> They asked me to please spread the word that they did not intend to
> infringe on our heritage.
>
>
> "Outdoors Magazine" <edi...@outdoorsmagazine.net> wrote in
> news:0h9mb.125423$qj6.7...@news1.news.adelphia.net:

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Oct 24, 2003, 1:54:38 PM10/24/03
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-----Original Message-----

From: James Ehlers [mailto:edi...@outdoorsmagazine.net]

Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 1:15 PM

To: 'epow...@oldworldind.com'

Subject: RE: Message from SIERRA Antifreeze

Mr. Powderly,

Thanks for respecting the Heritage. Best wishes for your continued business
and racing success.

All the best,

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-----Original Message-----

From: epow...@oldworldind.com [mailto:epow...@oldworldind.com]

Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 12:50 PM

To: mark...@outdoorsmagazine.net

Subject: Message from SIERRA Antifreeze

It has recently come to our attention that the hunting community is upset

about one of our company's products, Sierra antifreeze, which has a

sponsorship with the American Humane Association (AHA). Our intention with

getting involved with the AHA several years ago, was to bring awareness to

families of pets and children about a safer antifreeze, Sierra, due to it's

less toxic nature vs. conventional ethylene glycol based antifreeze. Every

year approximately 100,000 pets/animals die from ingesting conventional

antifreeze off of garage floors and driveways. The objective was awareness

of a safer solution to this, not to alienate the hunting and outdoorsman

community. Unknown to us, the AHA has apparently taken some active stances

against certain rights of hunters. Upon hearing this, we have made a

decision to sever our sponsorship with the AHA. Thank you for bringing

this to our attention and we hope you'll continue to support Old World

Industries products like Sierra antifreeze and other PEAK performance

products.

Sincerely,

Ed


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"Outdoors Magazine" <edi...@outdoorsmagazine.net> wrote in message
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Bob

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Oct 25, 2003, 11:31:20 AM10/25/03
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You know... I find it hard to believe that 100,000 pets die from
ingesting antifreeze each year. Do you think it's possible?
I would suggest to consumers that they take better care of what they do
with their old and new antifreeze. I just can't see their stats actually
happening unintentionally. Maybe it's strategy to market their products?
Not to mention that it says it's less toxic... that doesn't mean that it
isn't toxic.
Anyhow, don't mean to open a new can of worms but I think that if you
dig a little deeper you might see a little more to it all.

Outdoors Magazine

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Oct 25, 2003, 2:36:32 PM10/25/03
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Maybe so but as long as they do not give money to the Humane Society I don't
really care too, too much. We all need antifreeze and I for one do not want
my purchase contributing to a group that is working to end trapping and
hunting.

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"Bob" <wo...@nexicom.net> wrote in message
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Bob

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Oct 26, 2003, 10:43:44 AM10/26/03
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Let's just clear a few things up. I didn't say antifreeze wouldn't kill
dogs or animals. I just find their stats a little high let alone odd. If
the numbers are that high then why don't we hear about it through the
humaine society up here in Canada? They certainly let us know about
everything else. If the numbers are that high.. then there must be alot
of leaking cooling systems on cars... I mean systems that are just
puking it out...It sounds to me like someone is dummying up numbers. I
know alot of farmers and they use normal antifreeze. I've yet to see
puddles on their farms either... so where is all this antifreeze coming
from that's killing all those animals??????????
Let's not forget that they say 100,000 PETS... a year...
Like I said the first time.... doesn't seem right to me..

diddy wrote:
> Bob <wo...@nexicom.net> wrote in news:3F9A9748...@nexicom.net:


>
>
>>You know... I find it hard to believe that 100,000 pets die from
>>ingesting antifreeze each year. Do you think it's possible?
>>I would suggest to consumers that they take better care of what they
>>do with their old and new antifreeze. I just can't see their stats
>>actually happening unintentionally. Maybe it's strategy to market
>>their products? Not to mention that it says it's less toxic... that
>>doesn't mean that it isn't toxic.
>>Anyhow, don't mean to open a new can of worms but I think that if you
>>dig a little deeper you might see a little more to it all.
>>
>>
>
>

> Actually Pets DO. Antifreeze is very sweet. Animals are attracted to it.
> Having one dog get poisioned twice, both times, I was there when I saw it
> happen, and immediately induced vomiting, and took to the vet for medical
> treatment. (Which involved giving them intervenous vodka and keeping them
> in a drunken stooper for three days while the alcohol binds to the crystals
> that damage the nephrons in the kidneys)
> A lot of people have dogs that suddenly die, and have no idea why, because
> they did not see the animal ingest it or were unaware of the dangers.
> If you hung around vet practices, you would believe how common an occurance
> it really is.
> Sierra is STILL toxic. It's just not AS toxic as regular antifreeze.
> It also isnt as animal attractive.
> Kidney failure due to antifreeze poisoning is serious, deadly and an ugly
> way to die.
> I allow only Sierra coolant in my farm fleet, because we have dogs on the
> premises. This is why it disturbed me so much that they were taking an
> antihunting stance. They assured me that they were unaware of the Humane
> society's agenda and I believe this is so.
> An awfully lot of people are unaware of the secret/and not so secret
> agenda's of many organizations. They probably thought they were an
> organization to save puppys and kittens.
> Not one cent of American Humane Society goes to save puppys and kittens. It
> all goes to legal fees and lobbyists for their other agendas.


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