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Bubba

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Feb 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/21/00
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Begs the question: Where were the parents ?
db

Richard P. Reasin

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Feb 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/21/00
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Bubba wrote:

> Begs the question: Where were the parents ?
> db

I hope they were the AR couple that threw paint on me, my motorcycle,
and new leather jacket and leather fur lined bombers hat. My response
was quick and on par with what they had done. I told them I was making
a citizens arrest, and when they started walking away, I kicked out the
guys knee, and when the AR bimbo tried to defend her "man", I broke her
nose. Later on I sued them for damages and won. The police were on my
side. They told me I had done the proper thing, by announcing they were
under arrest. When they decided to resist, i.e. walk away, they opened
themselves up to whatever action it took me to hold them. The cops even
bought me a donut.

This took place in California. With all the wierd stuff you see out
there, I would have never guessed something like this would have
happened to me. It occured 25 years ago, this past October. I still
have the replacement leather jacket and hat. Nothing wears like leather
and fur.

Rich Reasin


Marika E. Buchberger

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Feb 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/21/00
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Catching up on OLD reading, Bubba???

Bubba wrote:

> Begs the question: Where were the parents ?
> db

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Marika E. Buchberger

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Yeah....let's see the court papers...I don't believe the story at all.

Bubba

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We had some of those AR idiots up here in Tulsa. I tried to talk the wife
into getting her Fox coat my mother gave her and driving to the protest.
She agreed with my reaction, but talked me out of going there and causing
anything newsworthy to bring more attention to them. She was right.
I would prefer to stick a weasel in their britches and watch their reaction
anyway. Watch them deal with that.
db

pier...@newsguy.net

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Feb 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/22/00
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 19:21:07 -0500, "Richard P. Reasin"
<rpre...@computer-connection.net> wrote:
[...]

No shit?
Hmmm, if you've still got any of the original court papers or police
reports, to verify as fact what you're stating above, I know a few
people in another newsgroup who would absolutely _love_ to hear the
story in full detail.

Since PeTA has announced (claiming victory, lol) that it is leaving
the war on fur for a war on leather, it would certainly be in the best
interests for activists to understand up front what they may be facing
when they assault another person.

>
>Rich Reasin
>


Caninetrapper

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Feb 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/22/00
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I say kick the living crap out of those bunny huggers. Screw the media.
They'll give them sympathy every time. Don't even worry about that. Just
teach those queers that if they go ont hat sidewalk they'll get sent back home
with a kick to the butt.

Floyd
www.davidduke.com

Richard P. Reasin

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Feb 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/22/00
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"Marika E. Buchberger" wrote:

> Yeah....let's see the court papers...I don't believe the story at all.

Frankly, I don't really give a damn what you believe. You don't even know
what you do for a living. Medical professional or billing clerk, real
confusing isn't it?

You do PETA and all the other AR jerks a great service, by getting caught
in another Marika lies incident. You told this newsgroup that you were
permanently "plonking" me. How can anyone believe a single word you ever
say, when you lie about even the most simple of your statements? Whenever
you, or for that manner any ARA jerk type, posts to a newsgroup, or just
opens their mouth, I will assume just one thing. More lies!!! After all,
you have a proven track record.

I don't have to produce anything for you, or any of the other jerk and
dumb as dirt type ARAs. What I said happened, and is the cause of my
animosity towards you and any organization you are connected to. A great
public relations stunt by ARAs. 25 years ago your dumb as dirt
predecessors were worthless scum, and today you are just the same.

Besides, Marika, you dumb witch-not the word I wanted to use, why would I
give you any more personal information. So you could plaster it all over
the internet? I'll tell you what you want to know, when you stop telling
lies, but that will never happen. You must have a defective gene,
rendering you incapable of telling the truth. Seek help you lying witch.

Rich Reasin


Richard P. Reasin

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Feb 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/22/00
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pier...@newsguy.net wrote:

As far as I know, the story was not news worthy enough to make the papers.
All I have is some pictures of the damage they did to my property. I think
the original pictures went to the lawyers, but I may still have the
negatives. At the time, I was mainly interested in getting reimbursed for
damages. I never thought this debate would still be going on after 25
years, else I would have saved all documentation. These ARA jerkwads never
even filed charges against me. They knew they did not have a leg to stand
on. If they had done just a few more dollars in damage, I could have sent
them to jail on felony charges.


Marika E. Buchberger

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Feb 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/22/00
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We are not referring to newspapers.....we are referring to court
papers.....and all court cases are of public record, therefore, it should
be available. And what county did you commit this assault in richard....

How's the weather up there in Ontario, New York?

"Marika E. Buchberger" wrote:

> Yeah....let's see the court papers...I don't believe the story at all.

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Gordy

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Marika E. Buchberger <M_E...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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>
> We are not referring to newspapers.....we are referring to court
> papers.....and all court cases are of public record, therefore, it should
> be available. And what county did you commit this assault in richard....

Your accusing HIM of assault? You really are are shallow human......

> How's the weather up there in Ontario, New York?

I see you have a tendency towards stalking. Does this give you some sort
of satisfaction knowing where other posters' live, or is this
your attempt at intimidation?

Gordy

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Marika E. Buchberger <M_E...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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>
> Catching up on OLD reading, Bubba???
>

Maybe he's still waiting for your "proof" <g>

Bubba

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Feb 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/22/00
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Yeah. Just surfed over here to see just how nutty the ARAs really are. My
interest in animals is to see that they are treated ethically. Which to me
means that I participate in habitat restoration, hunt them to help reduce
the population below starvation levels as the natural predators are too low
in number. Pittman-Robertson money and DU have restored more wetlands and
other habitat through money provided by sportsman than any ARA group ever.
Now, as to the original post. Are you the parent of the child ? How did
the child get into the trap ? Does/did either the child or on of the parents
ever ride the "short bus" to school ? Are the parents completly
irresponsible, or is the child blind ?
Just trying to figure out how the kid got into a trap.
db

Marika E. Buchberger <M_E...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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>
> Catching up on OLD reading, Bubba???
>
> Bubba wrote:
>
> > Begs the question: Where were the parents ?
> > db
>

Richard P. Reasin

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"Marika E. Buchberger" wrote:

> We are not referring to newspapers.....we are referring to court
> papers.....and all court cases are of public record, therefore, it should
> be available. And what county did you commit this assault in richard....
>

> How's the weather up there in Ontario, New York?


>
> "Marika E. Buchberger" wrote:
>
> > Yeah....let's see the court papers...I don't believe the story at all.
>
> --

Unlike you Marika, I don't have MORON written on my forehead. I would not
cross the street to urinate on you if you were on fire, why would I give you
any personal information. You just demonstrated what you do when you think
you know something personal about someone. You plaster it across the
internet. Your credibility is at an all time low. You don't seem to garner
any support from anybody. What's going on? The ARAs get tired of your crap
too? Maybe, you just are a little to anal for even them. Oh hell, you're
totally anal, and too much for everyone. You had better learn to let go of
the lost causes. That means get a life. Or when you die, no one will show
up at the gray haired old battle-axes funeral, not even kiwi possums.
California is not that big of a state. Use a little of your imagination, you
know, the stuff your facts, and what we call lies, comes from. The facts are
out there, you need only find them. Start on the West coast, and so you
don't appear dumb as dirt, that's the one where the sun sets. Why do I have
the feeling that no matter what I do, you'll always appear to be dumb as
dirt, at least when you open your mouth. Marika, all this crap aside, why
would any reasonable person, give you any personal information? Knowing what
you would do with it. Try to answer this question honestly. The rewards for
truth may surprise you. I really doubt that the information you seek is on
computer file. I think the univac was the big thing back then. I had to
fill out everything in quad forms. And not wishing to live like a pack rat,
I didn't save 25 year old court papers. Tell me you save everything.
Remember, try to answer honestly.

Well, as much fun as this has been, I'm off to the game farm, to work the new
dog and shoot some golden pheasants. Flitting resupply time. Oh yes,
temperature in the 50's today in Ontario, and sunny with light wind. A good
day for pheasants to die. I'll tell them Marika sends her love.

The Grim Reaper of Pheasants,
Rich Reasin


Richard P. Reasin

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Feb 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/22/00
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"Richard P. Reasin" wrote:

Flitting resupply time.

Meant to say, "Flytying resupply time."

I was talking to the new german shorthair pointer, amazing how excited it gets
when it sees the shotgun, and plundered with the keyboard. I will start using
the spell checker someday.

Thanks
Rich Reasin


Mr_Ess

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Feb 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/22/00
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 07:25:06 -0600, "Gordy" <mca...@NOSPAMyahoo.com>
wrote:

>Marika E. Buchberger <M_E...@prodigy.net> wrote in message

>news:38B28079...@prodigy.net...


>>
>> We are not referring to newspapers.....we are referring to court
>> papers.....and all court cases are of public record, therefore, it should
>> be available. And what county did you commit this assault in richard....
>

It is amazing this thread has resurfaced after how many months now.
When "M" first posted it, her story was she had witnessed it
personally from the doctors office in which she worked. Go figure how
the story seems to change with time.

Marika E. Buchberger

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since he's busy ready old stuff, then he should have no problem at all
finding the proof, it was posted.

Gordy wrote:

> Marika E. Buchberger <M_E...@prodigy.net> wrote in message

> news:38B1FD13...@prodigy.net...
> >
> > Catching up on OLD reading, Bubba???
> >
>

> Maybe he's still waiting for your "proof" <g>

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Marika E. Buchberger

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He admitted to assaulting two persons......I read his post through another
post. Perhaps you should too.


Gordy

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He admitted ARRESTING two people who assaulted him!
You have to be the most ignorant person I have EVER come across in these
newsgroups. I'll keep looking, but I'm pretty sure you win that prize.
(I'll sit here and wait for your next pointless snipe now.....)

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Gordy

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OK.........where?
Please don't refer us to the editorial you found and posted as "proof"
simply because it was written by a Dr.. Surely you realize by now that not
one person takes your one anecdotal editorial regarding a single incident as
proof.

Marika E. Buchberger <M_E...@prodigy.net> wrote in message

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>
> since he's busy ready old stuff, then he should have no problem at all
> finding the proof, it was posted.
>
> Gordy wrote:
>

> > Marika E. Buchberger <M_E...@prodigy.net> wrote in message

Marika E. Buchberger

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Citizens arrest, which is what he claimed to have done, does not include
assault....

Gordy wrote:

> He admitted ARRESTING two people who assaulted him!
> You have to be the most ignorant person I have EVER come across in these
> newsgroups. I'll keep looking, but I'm pretty sure you win that prize.
> (I'll sit here and wait for your next pointless snipe now.....)
>

> Marika E. Buchberger <M_E...@prodigy.net> wrote in message

> news:38B37B8A...@prodigy.net...
> >
> > He admitted to assaulting two persons......I read his post through another
> > post. Perhaps you should too.
> >
> >
> >

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Marika E. Buchberger

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It was posted....in fact, Mack was the one who posted it so do a search
under his e-mail and you will find it.

smiley492

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Bull you never proved squat and I see your lies still growing.
Smiley:)

Marika E. Buchberger <M_E...@prodigy.net> wrote in message

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>
> since he's busy ready old stuff, then he should have no problem at all
> finding the proof, it was posted.
>
> Gordy wrote:
>

> > Marika E. Buchberger <M_E...@prodigy.net> wrote in message

> > news:38B1FD13...@prodigy.net...
> > >
> > > Catching up on OLD reading, Bubba???
> > >
> >
> > Maybe he's still waiting for your "proof" <g>
>

noe...@noemail.com

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Feb 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/24/00
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In article <38B46289...@prodigy.net>, "Marika says...

>
>
>Citizens arrest, which is what he claimed to have done, does not include
>assault....
>

No, it does not.
It does, however, include the amount of force necessary to enforce
the arrest. Such as "bounty hunters" who bring in bail-jumpers by
placing them under Citizen's arrest.


Marika E. Buchberger

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I'm still looking for the name of the county, which he conveniently forgot.
And the color of the paint was red....now how would I know THAT if he never
mentioned it? He lies.


smiley492

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Yes I did see it. I dont need to research it it was from 1978 I do believe.
Also it was from some doctor who had little or no practice whatsoever other
than slightly supporting your bull. I was not surprized that his name could
not be found as a practicing physician and btw did the alf pay for his visa.
I do not believe that if this actually had happened that the AR fools
wouldnt have jumped on it as yet another of their lies and campaign promos.
Get real nobody believed you before so dont try and prove your point as we
all know that you cannot tell the truth for those that do not know your
lying ways you do the research on this newsgroup.
Smiley492 :)

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Marika E. Buchberger

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smiley492 wrote:

> Yes I did see it. I dont need to research it it was from 1978 I do believe.
> Also it was from some doctor who had little or no practice whatsoever

and of course, YOU have more experience than a doctor...yeah right...make some
sense would you please.....

> other
> than slightly supporting your bull. I was not surprized that his name could
> not be found as a practicing physician and btw did the alf pay for his visa.

VISA, for an american born citizen? stop trying to twist facts OK?

>
> I do not believe that if this actually

You deny it. Typical.

> had happened that the AR fools
> wouldnt have jumped on it as yet another of their lies and campaign promos.
> Get real nobody believed you before so dont try and prove your point as we
> all know that you cannot tell the truth for those that do not know your
> lying ways you do the research on this newsgroup.

I don't lie, you just can't deal with the truth.

>
> Smiley492 :)
>
> Marika E. Buchberger <M_E...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
> news:38B482C2...@prodigy.net...
> >
> > It was posted....in fact, Mack was the one who posted it so do a search
> > under his e-mail and you will find it.
> >
> >

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Marika E. Buchberger

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FUR SALES ARE WAY DOWN......AND THOSE ARE FACTS THAT NO ONE CAN DENY.
IN FACT, MOST OF THE LARGEST FURRIERS ARE BANKRUPT IN THE USA.

Gordy

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Ahhhhh, yes it does if that is whats required to make the arrest.
Why would you argue such a simple point? You've already said that you don't
believe Richard was assaulted in the first place, why in the hell would you
care if he had to make a forcefull arrest so the criminals didn't get
away?......unless of course you support criminal activity by the AR
movement. Which by your statements supporting them, you do.


Marika E. Buchberger <M_E...@prodigy.net> wrote in message

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>
> Citizens arrest, which is what he claimed to have done, does not include
> assault....
>

> Gordy wrote:
>
> > He admitted ARRESTING two people who assaulted him!
> > You have to be the most ignorant person I have EVER come across in these
> > newsgroups. I'll keep looking, but I'm pretty sure you win that prize.
> > (I'll sit here and wait for your next pointless snipe now.....)
> >

> > Marika E. Buchberger <M_E...@prodigy.net> wrote in message

> > news:38B37B8A...@prodigy.net...
> > >
> > > He admitted to assaulting two persons......I read his post through
another
> > > post. Perhaps you should too.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>

Gordy

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Ahh hello? Your flaming your own posts <g>
Lets idle back on the caffeine now mkay?

Just for gigles, lets have you name some of "the largest furriers" in the US
that have gone bankrupt.
Please tell us who.


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>
> FUR SALES ARE WAY DOWN......AND THOSE ARE FACTS THAT NO ONE CAN DENY.
> IN FACT, MOST OF THE LARGEST FURRIERS ARE BANKRUPT IN THE USA.
>

Gordy

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Marika E. Buchberger <M_E...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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Riiiiighht, and you work in a Doctors' office where you've witnessed a child
caught in a trap........OK then.

Marika E. Buchberger

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I would like the county it occurred in. Very simple. I was not the only person
who requested the court papers and information about the case, a fur trapper
requested the information as well, and, Richard casually sidestepped the issue.
I know he's making it up.....LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!


smiley492

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Feb 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/24/00
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I suppose you are also standing by the %#$@ that dragged the child to death
as in your words he was assaulted too. Are you that derranged. He is lucky
that I didnt catch him. He wouldnt need a ballistic vest now if that were
the case.
Smiley

Marika E. Buchberger <M_E...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:38B46289...@prodigy.net...
>
> Citizens arrest, which is what he claimed to have done, does not include
> assault....
>
> Gordy wrote:
>
> > He admitted ARRESTING two people who assaulted him!
> > You have to be the most ignorant person I have EVER come across in these
> > newsgroups. I'll keep looking, but I'm pretty sure you win that prize.
> > (I'll sit here and wait for your next pointless snipe now.....)
> >
> > Marika E. Buchberger <M_E...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
> > news:38B37B8A...@prodigy.net...
> > >
> > > He admitted to assaulting two persons......I read his post through
another
> > > post. Perhaps you should too.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>

smiley492

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Practice what you preach.
How do you know where this doctor that Mack provided was born. Go back and
look at the name.
Smiley:)

Marika E. Buchberger <M_E...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:38B51D95...@prodigy.net...

>
>
>
> smiley492 wrote:
>
> > Yes I did see it. I dont need to research it it was from 1978 I do
believe.
> > Also it was from some doctor who had little or no practice whatsoever
>
> and of course, YOU have more experience than a doctor...yeah right...make
some
> sense would you please.....
>
> > other
> > than slightly supporting your bull. I was not surprized that his name
could
> > not be found as a practicing physician and btw did the alf pay for his
visa.
>
> VISA, for an american born citizen? stop trying to twist facts OK?
>
> >
> > I do not believe that if this actually
>
> You deny it. Typical.
>
> > had happened that the AR fools
> > wouldnt have jumped on it as yet another of their lies and campaign
promos.
> > Get real nobody believed you before so dont try and prove your point as
we
> > all know that you cannot tell the truth for those that do not know your
> > lying ways you do the research on this newsgroup.
>
> I don't lie, you just can't deal with the truth.
>
> >
> > Smiley492 :)
> >
> > Marika E. Buchberger <M_E...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
> > news:38B482C2...@prodigy.net...
> > >
> > > It was posted....in fact, Mack was the one who posted it so do a
search
> > > under his e-mail and you will find it.
> > >
> > >
>

Marika E. Buchberger

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Evans, Inc. the largest fur retailer in the United States has filed for Chapter
11 bankruptcy.

Also...

Andrian Furs of Ilinois filed Chapter 11 as well...


smiley492

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You are obviously crazy as a loon. You calling anyone a liar. You better
learn the deffinition first and if that dont help look up liar in the
encyclopedia. I bet the deffinition says, Marika E Butchberger

Smiley:)
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pier...@newsguy.net

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Which fur trapper requested the information?

From what I can see of this tread, I'm the only other person who made
anything that could even remotely be considered a request at all. If
there is another poster you are referring to, it is neither referenced
on my server or on dejanews.

This was my request (actually a comment):
(quote)
"Hmmm, if you've still got any of the original court papers or police
reports, to verify as fact what you're stating above, I know a few
people in another newsgroup who would absolutely _love_ to hear the
story in full detail."
(end quote)

Note that nowhere in the above is Richard asked to provide any
information to this newsgroup, or even specifically to -any-
newsgroup. I know of _individuals_ who participate in _another_
newsgroup that would have found the story both interesting and
relevant to their work.

Richard answered and, from my end, the subject was dropped, since the
information without verifiable documentation would be unusable to
those individuals I was referring to.

I'm not a trapper, Marika. I'm not even much of an outdoorsperson.
I'm simply a writer who came to this group looking for some
background information to use in a book I am writing. While I have
not yet found much information on the group itself that has helped me
to build this character, reading this group has led to email contact
that has been most helpful. One poster in particular has provided
insight more than adequate for my needs. For that I thank him again.

In any case, my experience with this newsgroup has been rather
entertaining. The personalities of the posters here have given me
enough information to build the foundations for several characters for
future use.

Pierrett

Jon Inge Bragstad

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Feb 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/25/00
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Does that prove anything ?

How many dairy farms are there in the US at the moment compared to 100
years ago ? And how has that affected the use of dairy products ?


------------- Jon Inge Bragstad --------------
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>Citizens arrest, which is what he claimed to have done, does not include
>assault....
>

It does for the purpose of property damage... In Fla anyhow. Stop twisting
things Marika!
Alan

Alan's Wildlife Removal
http://members.aol.com/crittergrabber

Richard P. Reasin

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"Marika E. Buchberger" wrote:

> On this newsgroup, to make a comment without backing it up is not a good thing to
> do. And even once someone does backup their comment, many times, attacks foIlow
> anyway. I for one am very interested in finding out about the case, as you stated,
> if the information is true, it would be a worthy cause as I have always been opposed
> to violence in the name of anti-fur or animal rights. As I have stated MANY times,
> you educate and legislate changes. I will no doubt still have to check the court
> dockets by name.
>
> Hope you found what you are looking for......

Save yourself a lot of legwork and respond to the "Put Up Or Shut Up" posting of mine.
Then you be rewarded with what you seek. I keep my promises. Now how much more helpful
could I be? If you can't produce the post I request, then tell us why. Just be able to
document your excuse. I'll come up with some other little "produce the post" job for
you.

It would demonstrate, in a positive way for you, that you know the difference between
right and wrong, since you know, by your words in the above posting, that it's wrong to
make statements without backing them up. And since you never responded to my request in
the Put Up Or Shut Up posting, this would be an excellent opportunity to do so.
Finally, in addition to the action items already mentioned in this paragraph, you could
demonstrate how sincere your interest in this "case", actually is. Think what a, please
excuse the following choice of words, "feather in your cap", it would be, digging up a
25 year old incident for all the AR bandwagoneers to rally around.

This is an opportunity where you can't lose. All you have to do is produce one little
posting. You really should take advantage of it.


Negotiating the Peace,
Rich Reasin


Jon Inge Bragstad

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Feb 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/25/00
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 06:53:30 -0500, "Marika E. Buchberger"
<M_E...@prodigy.net> wrote:

>The question, name bankrupt furriers was put forward. An answer was given.

Oh, sorry - YOUR - mistake. Learn how to snip/quote _before_ posting.

Tonya Johnson

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Feb 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/26/00
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When there are no furriers left I will tan what I have trapped, because I
am a trapper and it is what I do.

"Marika E. Buchberger" wrote:

> FUR SALES ARE WAY DOWN......AND THOSE ARE FACTS THAT NO ONE CAN DENY.
> IN FACT, MOST OF THE LARGEST FURRIERS ARE BANKRUPT IN THE USA.
>

noe...@noemail.com

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Feb 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/28/00
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:00:00 -0500, "Marika E. Buchberger"
<M_E...@prodigy.net> wrote:

(after so conveniently snipping)


>
>On this newsgroup, to make a comment without backing it up is not a good thing to
>do.

It is what you have done, so you have no credibility.
Why did you claim that Pierrett was a furtrapper and misrepresent
his/her statements?

> And even once someone does backup their comment, many times, attacks foIlow
>anyway. I for one am very interested in finding out about the case, as you stated,
>if the information is true, it would be a worthy cause as I have always been opposed
>to violence in the name of anti-fur or animal rights.

Laughable- exactly what good would having information on a 25 year old
case do? Especially when there are many similar type incidents that
occur much more recently, including one that you commented on
recently.

Your words were "Bravo to those young ladies from PETA!!!!"
(Subject: Re: Fur Protest..., Date: 02/12/2000, your words, unless
someone has "borrowed" your computer again)
Or do you see a difference between encouraging disorderly conduct
that costs other people time and money, throwing pies at people, or
throwing paint on someone?
Are you checking into the court dockets for that case as well, or are
you just exercising a personal vendetta against Richard?

If you are opposed to "violence in the name of anti-fur or animal
rights" then why do you quote mis-information from the webpages of
those who are known to encourage such violence? Do you agree with
PeTA's policy of paying the legal costs of people who fire-bomb
laboratories? If not, then why quote from their webpages?

> As I have stated MANY times,
>you educate and legislate changes.

Ummm, AFAIK, terrorism and vandalism is already illegal.


Marika E. Buchberger

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Feb 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/28/00
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I'm not going anywhere, and you all know damned well that you just can't resist at
keeping me in your killfile.

I suspect there are perhaps one or two authentic trappers on this newsgroup. The rest of
you are just a bunch of freaky trolls who enjoy the fantasy of killing animals and
writing from behind a computer where you think no one can find you. Just an antagonist
bunch of amateur trolls. Trapper wannabes.

<snipped the rest and tossed in the crapper, where it belongs>


Richard P. Reasin

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"Marika E. Buchberger" wrote:

Notice how nasty she got when the idea that we would all killfile her, came to her
attention. There's more than one way to skin a shrew. But Marika in your killfile!

Rich Reasin


Marika E. Buchberger

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Feb 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/28/00
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really John? yeah I'll believe that.

Yes, please do everyone!! put me in your killfile, again and again...ROFLMAO!!!!


John

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Feb 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/29/00
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Hell, Rich, that dumb@$$ broad been in the killfile on my computer since her
first week on this NG. The only way I see anything she posted is when one
of you guys quote a portion of her crap in response to her.
John

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Richard P. Reasin

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John wrote:

> Hell, Rich, that dumb@$$ broad been in the killfile on my computer since her
> first week on this NG. The only way I see anything she posted is when one
> of you guys quote a portion of her crap in response to her.
> John
>
> "Richard P. Reasin" <rpre...@computer-connection.net> wrote in message
> news:38BB0A1A...@computer-connection.net...
> >
> >
> > "Marika E. Buchberger" wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not going anywhere, and you all know damned well that you just can't
> resist at
> > > keeping me in your killfile.
>

Your there already you stupid shrew. Soon I will convince the other members to
do the same. Then what will you do? Die I hope.

> > >
> > > I suspect there are perhaps one or two authentic trappers on this
> newsgroup.

So what? We share common interests, and enjoy the company of one another. It's
a shame no one enjoys your company. You must be a very lonely shrew.

> > >The rest of you are just a bunch of freaky trolls who enjoy the fantasy of
> killing
> animals and
> > > writing from behind a computer where you think no one can find you.

I wish to take exception to this egregious shrew claim. I am not living a
fantasy. I'm an avid hunter and fisherman. During the course of these
activities, sometimes animals die. If you wish to talk fantasy, how many cute,
cuddly, critters have you imagined saving, due to your efforts here?

The troll must be dumber than dirt, if she believes anyone of us writes from
behind a computer. All of us sit in front of it. Lets us reach the keyboard
and read what we type. Something she obviously does not do.

As far as finding us, who's looking anyway? You? Big whoop. Were scared.
Probably won't sleep well tonight. Shiver, shiver, shake, shake.

>
>
> > > Just an antagonist bunch of amateur trolls. Trapper wannabes.
>

It appears the only ones we antagonize are you, and a few others of the lunatic
fringe. That is one of our goals. Looks like we're succeeding. So please,
refer to us with a little respect. Professional, antagonistic trolls. After
all, we work hard for the recognition.

Being a "trapper wannabe", if highly preferable to being an "ARA" wannabe.

> > >
> > > <snipped the rest and tossed in the crapper, where it belongs>
> >
> > Notice how nasty she got when the idea that we would all killfile her,
> came to her
> > attention. There's more than one way to skin a shrew. But Marika in your
> killfile!
> >
> > Rich Reasin
> >

Put her in your killfile. That's right, kill the shrew off. It's not like
anyone will ever miss her, or she might have something of value to say. It
could be one more way to enjoy the "fantasy of killing". Give it a whirl. Just
go to your browsers edit file, then message filters, then new, then sender,
contains Marika, delete. Quite a humane way to dispatch this ignorant shrew.

Rich Reasin


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