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matisse

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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looks like they get to start with questions.

can i say yet again how much i hate academia.

--
What is it to speak in the spirit of confession? It is to acknowledge
your subordination to a higher source while admitting that you have not
consistently done so in the past. It is to turn your future self in the
right direction by humbly admitting defects in your previous self. It is
to give voice to defects in the self because you admit that no finite
embodied being could be without them. It is to open yourself to
conversion through admission

The Raoul Xemblinosky Experience

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matisse wrote:
>
> looks like they get to start with questions.
>
> can i say yet again how much i hate academia.

Stop whining. It's worth the hassle.

- J. Raoul Xemblinosky III =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- . --- .-- =-=-=-=-=
mhm 15x12 | "I have a gun in my head. I'm invisible. I CAN'T
KotAGoR 33 | FIND THE ICE. A slug. I'm TV. I hate." -KH, 1985
BELLOWER 13 | VOTE ------> http://www.freevote.com/booth/raoul
- http://extra.newsguy.com/~shpxurnq/ =-=-=-=-= a.f.k-m.n =-=-=-=-=-=

Rebecca Ore

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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The Raoul Xemblinosky Experience wrote:
>
> matisse wrote:
> >
> > looks like they get to start with questions.
> >
> > can i say yet again how much i hate academia.
>
> Stop whining. It's worth the hassle.

Anyone who hates academia hasn't experienced the alternative.

either or neither, and

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Rebecca Ore <rebec...@op.net> wrote:

Wrong.

Anyone want to try their hand a parody of Joni Mitchell's
"Both Sides"?

ck

Rebecca Ore

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I get people's recollections about stuff that happened and check it
against deja news posts all the time. Everyone distorts the past. It
never was the way people remember it.

Though it is entirely possible that your discipline of choice may affect
you, and my profession, which is like writing a something between a
masters thesis doctoral dissertation every year unless I whine my way
through my deadlines, affects me.

The Raoul Xemblinosky Experience

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Juliane has only one dissertation to write and then she is free to
spend the rest of her work life subverting young minds. She needs to
quit whining and start writing.


- J. Raoul Xemblinosky III ------------------- -- . --- .-- ---------


mhm 15x12 | "I have a gun in my head. I'm invisible. I CAN'T
KotAGoR 33 | FIND THE ICE. A slug. I'm TV. I hate." -KH, 1985
BELLOWER 13 | VOTE ------> http://www.freevote.com/booth/raoul

- http://extra.newsguy.com/~shpxurnq/ --------- a.f.k-m.n -----------

Rebecca Ore

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The Raoul Xemblinosky Experience wrote:
>
> Rebecca Ore wrote:
> >
> > either or neither, and wrote:
> > >
> > > Rebecca Ore <rebec...@op.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > >The Raoul Xemblinosky Experience wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> matisse wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > looks like they get to start with questions.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > can i say yet again how much i hate academia.
> > > >>
> > > >> Stop whining. It's worth the hassle.
> > > >
> > > >Anyone who hates academia hasn't experienced the alternative.
> > >
> > > Wrong.
> > >
> > > Anyone want to try their hand a parody of Joni Mitchell's
> > > "Both Sides"?
> >
> > I get people's recollections about stuff that happened and check it
> > against deja news posts all the time. Everyone distorts the past. It
> > never was the way people remember it.
> >
> > Though it is entirely possible that your discipline of choice may affect
> > you, and my profession, which is like writing a something between a
> > masters thesis doctoral dissertation every year unless I whine my way
> > through my deadlines, affects me.
>
> Juliane has only one dissertation to write and then she is free to
> spend the rest of her work life subverting young minds. She needs to
> quit whining and start writing.

Then why is she whining? I have to write another novel/and or learn
Perl by Sept. 2000.

Then another one, and another one, every 12 to 18 months until I die.

Or learn more about router tables and Java or Java script, and learn a
new computer language every 3 years until I die.

And she's whinging about writing one dissertation before becoming a
teacher?

(bangs head against table).

By the way, Raoul, I pshifted back into a netcop and dissed you in
nanau.

--
Rebecca Ore

matisse

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The Raoul Xemblinosky Experience wrote:

>
>
>
> Juliane has only one dissertation to write and then she is free to
> spend the rest of her work life subverting young minds. She needs to
> quit whining and start writing.
>

i sometimes wonder why the hell people take things so bloody seriously. i know
i have this tendency to overly stress certain words/phrases, etc. but if that
was whining than i think i need my head examined big time!

my dear, i know damn well that i have it "easy." i say this as often as i
complain, if not more often.

do me a favor, take out your bitterness or whatever the fuck it is at
bitterness or on yourself.


and do not call me juliane.

j.

matisse

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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(irony contained within)

Rebecca Ore wrote:

> The Raoul Xemblinosky Experience wrote:
> >

> > Rebecca Ore wrote:
> > >
> > > either or neither, and wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Rebecca Ore <rebec...@op.net> wrote:
> > > >

> > > > >The Raoul Xemblinosky Experience wrote:
> > > > >>

> > > > >> matisse wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > looks like they get to start with questions.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > can i say yet again how much i hate academia.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Stop whining. It's worth the hassle.
>

<sob> oh please, you have to help me. it is so wretchedly miserable and i just
do not know what to do. i have so much to do, and when i do decide it is time
to take a break, the world around me just looks at me like i am a fool.

oh the insanity of it all, please rescue me from my life of picking lint from my
teeth! i cannot take it anymore. two years in a phd program and i am breaking,
unable to keep up with the harsh demands of never having to do anything.

i am even so lazy that i don't even have a committee yet, nor a topic, nor any
idea as to if i am allowed to write a dissertation. you see, i have this fear
that i am going to fail, or it is rather a deep dark wish that i will fail. i
keep waiting, picking lint, hoping that all see me as you so do.

> > > > >
> > > > >Anyone who hates academia hasn't experienced the alternative.
> > > >
> > > > Wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone want to try their hand a parody of Joni Mitchell's
> > > > "Both Sides"?
>

i was talking with a friend of mine who is a paramedic the other day, and we
were sharing our "sexists" stories. it was rather amusing.

her husband once said to me when i was cracking a joke about my readings leading
me into an abysmal, decrepit black hole, "been there did that before." he has a
master's in physical therapy. i haven't been able to figure out how his readings
had anything to do with spending a few months reading nothing but guys who had
killed themselves.

i tried, though.

then i remember that he dealt with real death everyday, not whines created out
of boredom.


> > >
> > > I get people's recollections about stuff that happened and check it
> > > against deja news posts all the time. Everyone distorts the past. It
> > > never was the way people remember it.
>

no one distorts the past, the past is just always being re-written.

> > >
> > > Though it is entirely possible that your discipline of choice may affect
> > > you, and my profession, which is like writing a something between a
> > > masters thesis doctoral dissertation every year unless I whine my way
> > > through my deadlines, affects me.
>

what an amazing sentence. your intellect is so far above mine i have no fucking
clue what you are saying! congratulations, you have got to be the best writer
at angst. are you going to share your books with us? or at least share a tiny
chapter from one? we wouldn't want to disturb you, since we are the little
people. but i would just love to get a glimpse at real brilliance.i keep hoping
that i will meet someone that will inspire me! could you be the bright shining
star i have been looking for for all these years?

just don't let my master,know. i had thought he would help me, but it seems that
he has more lint to pick than i do.

> >
> > Juliane has only one dissertation to write and then she is free to
> > spend the rest of her work life subverting young minds. She needs to
> > quit whining and start writing.
>

you mean i will actually get to just subvert people's minds? joy, joy, you just
made my day. i have this totally unrepresentative picture of what an academic
has to do.. and now i am so, so very happy....

so happy that i will not only do the happy/happy joy dance, but i will even sing
for you!

."there are smiles that make you happy, there are smiles that make you blue,
there are smiles that clear away the cob webs, and there are smile that......

sorry, i am so tired, i cannot finish the song. i am so out of shape and out of
practice that i can only sustain something for a few minutes before i need to go
back to bed.

>
> Then why is she whining? I have to write another novel/and or learn
> Perl by Sept. 2000.

oh, my dear, what was i thinking! and i thought my life had problems. i am so
sorry for belittling you and your work. i had no idea that you had so much to
do. oh, that's right, i just entered this conversation. pardon me.

stupid me, what was i thinking. my dissertation is nothing like a novel or
learning Perl.


> Then another one, and another one, every 12 to 18 months until I die.
>

oh you poor dear! let me rub your feet for you, you must be so tired from all
that running you have been doing.

i know nothing about such hard-core work, as i do just sit on my ass and teach a
few classes a week, with the rest of my time i pick lint..but you already knew
that. and i would never want to assume your didn't know something when you did.
how foolish of me. to think that you were in my presence all this time and i
had failed to recognize such true brilliance.


> Or learn more about router tables and Java or Java script, and learn a
> new computer language every 3 years until I die.
>

oh no, your life just sounds so dreadfully trying. i think i need a nap to keep
up with even imagining such work intensity.

>
> And she's whinging about writing one dissertation before becoming a
> teacher?
>

yes, i know, what was i thinking! oh silly me. i promise that from now on i
will never whine about such stupid things.


i feel like i am 12 again and just felt shame for the first time. you see, i use
to argue with my brother over who had more soda. i cannot believe i haven't yet
out grown that. for shame, for shame...i think i will go crawl back in my bed,
pick some lint, and really consider how i can control my whining.

matisse

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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now that i am done picking lint, i am going to do yet another post to keep on
with my procrastination. if the truth be told, i am trying to find as many ways
as possible to ignore my work this morning. i have a few books i need to
re-read and i need to prepare a lesson plan, etc...and i really, really would
much rather pick lint. since i do have it so easy, i can pick as much lint as i
want. and then i get to get up tomorrow at 5 and head down to good old
champaign. though at the rate i am going, i will be up till midnight. oh well.

if the truth be told, i think academia is nothing but a modern monastery, where
people can hide out from really doing anything.

all i do is turn the spade over and over again. it is because of this that i
love working with senior citizens.

i am very spoiled. only 8% of the world gets to go to college, and i get to be a
professional student for the rest of my life (or a bartender or dancing for TTK,
i cannot really decide. i have been thinking that i should start stripping to
make some money so that i can spend a month in europe. we'll see. or at least i
should be a model for artists or something. the pay is good, and i have
connections thanks to ms. ingrid)

in other words, i am very fortunate that i get the chance to get a phd. i would
never say otherwise. however, what i am not so certain of it whether it will
pay off in the long run. there are no jobs, and i owe the government so much
fucking money it is unbelievable. i guess my car also needs some major repairs
done to it. joy,joy..and of course i have no fucking money. in fact, i have less
money than i normally do and i am not even living in my own apartment anymore.
rent here is cheap:250 plus phone (which is anywhere between 60-200)......

i am spoiled and i would be the first to admit it. i mean, please, i do call
myself a princess!

why do i hide out in academia? i don't really know. i had wanted to go to
psychoanalytic school and law school. i was going to fight for the rights of the
mentally ill and the homeless, but a professor said to me, at the end of my
senior year in college, we cannot lose you to law school. he, as well as others,
thought i should get the degree i am currently working on..and i didn't know
what else to do, so i applied. i applied late, in may, and i decided that i
would enrol in the program at the beginning of august. i didn't know what else
to do with myself, and as i am a lazy, or rather, like to spend my time doing
worthless stuff, i said, what the hell. they were going to pay for my tuition,
so i couldn't turn it down. i love seminars and shit...drinking wine and
discussing things...... i cannot wait till tomorrow when i will be meeting with
a good of peers to discuss kant...nothing like getting wasted and discussing
philosophy!

in other words, i would never complain about what i get to do, or what i will
end up doing.

i will hopefully get to spend my life reading books, having discussions with
peers, and sharing with students. in order to do this, i will end up having to
write tons of papers and maybe books, which isn't what i want to do, but if it
means i get to read and teach, so be it.

i am fearful that this is not going to happen, that i will have jumped through
all these hoops for no particular reason, that i will end up broke, with enough
debt to sink a ship, and no fucking way to pay it off.

in any case, i am just going to respond to this post again as opposed to
continuing on with this nonsensical rambling.


Rebecca Ore wrote:

> The Raoul Xemblinosky Experience wrote:
> >
> > Rebecca Ore wrote:
> > >
> > > either or neither, and wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Rebecca Ore <rebec...@op.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >The Raoul Xemblinosky Experience wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> matisse wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > looks like they get to start with questions.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > can i say yet again how much i hate academia.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Stop whining. It's worth the hassle.
>

i'm sorry you thought i was whining. my advisor has just been driving me crazy,
and i am actually afraid i am being thrown to the lions. i am her only advisee
left, her other two got thrown to the lions.

what can i say, i am not in the mood to be torn to pieces.

> > > > >
> > > > >Anyone who hates academia hasn't experienced the alternative.
> > > >
> > > > Wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone want to try their hand a parody of Joni Mitchell's
> > > > "Both Sides"?
> > >

brilliance from ck! with you here....... i have been thinking, though, that at
least my brother gets paid lots of money for all his hassles...but then again, i
can stay in bed reading all day if i want.

i cannot see myself in a suit.

>
> > > I get people's recollections about stuff that happened and check it
> > > against deja news posts all the time. Everyone distorts the past. It
> > > never was the way people remember it.
>

even when the original story was written, it wasn't the way it was to begin
with. you are comparing "distortions" with "distortions." the beauty of memory
and of time is that we can keep rewriting things, creating new narratives,
thereby seeing things in new and different ways. i so love being able to
rethink through something in this manner. as Wittgenstein would say, to solve
a problem all one has to do is keep rearranging the information one already has.

> > >
> > > Though it is entirely possible that your discipline of choice may affect
> > > you, and my profession, which is like writing a something between a
> > > masters thesis doctoral dissertation every year unless I whine my way
> > > through my deadlines, affects me.
> >

my master's thesis was the size of a dissertation. when jet use to yell at me
and tell me i needed to finish it, he had a very good reason for doing so. it
ended up being 172 pages. i can only wait and see how long my dissertation is
going to be.

btw, i also write a good amount of 30 page papers every year. like my qual
paper. no big deal, a matter of a few days.

i am not at dissertation stage yet. i still have 2 more exams after this one
before i will be ABD. course work may be over, but i still have to get all the
stamps (some 5 of them) before they will really set me free.

i cannot wait to write my dissertation --though i am sure i will want to throw
my computer out the window every day.

as much as i do want to just teach, i do in fact have a good time writing.
writing this paper i have to defend on thursday was a blast... hadn't had that
much fun in a long time.

in other words, yet again, i am spoiled and i appreciate what it is that i have
to do.

i was speaking with a few other students the other day and i realized just how
much i do not whine about this stuff. i laugh and drink my way through it...it
is nothing but a test of endurance.

>
> > Juliane has only one dissertation to write and then she is free to
> > spend the rest of her work life subverting young minds. She needs to
> > quit whining and start writing.
>

i so wish that was the case, you have no idea. i am hoping to be ABD by
may...but i just cannot figure out what my topic is going to be..and i still
have 2 more hoops.....

no big deal, this is only my second year in the program...tons of time.

my advisor would like to see me write the dissertation this year, but i have
this idea that i want to just read -things like QM, etc......

she has already told me what i should write on. i so love the women. now begins
the battle over my topic, she tried to pick my thesis topic. she lost, she will
always lose. if i am not passionate about the topic, i don't see the point. good
thing i am passionate about lots of things.

>
> Then why is she whining? I have to write another novel/and or learn
> Perl by Sept. 2000.
>

i wasn't whining.

>
> Then another one, and another one, every 12 to 18 months until I die.
>

yep, same here girlie, same here.

>
> Or learn more about router tables and Java or Java script, and learn a
> new computer language every 3 years until I die.
>

do you enjoy it or is it as painful as you are making it seem?


> And she's whinging about writing one dissertation before becoming a
> teacher?
>

i am not going to be a teacher, my dear, i am going to be an academic, which
includes a lot more than just teaching.

i wish i was only going to be a teacher.

>
> (bangs head against table).
>

life is to short to get frustrated.

>
> By the way, Raoul, I pshifted back into a netcop and dissed you in
> nanau.
>

showing your brilliance yet again.

dfis...@neo.error.com

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Rebecca Ore <rebec...@op.net> wrote:

[snippers]

>By the way, Raoul, I pshifted back into a netcop and dissed you in
>nanau.

^^^^^
That's the familiarity.

Growing old sucks.

D "xenu" J "at" F "the.satanic.org - once I get reconnected"

PS welcome to a.a. - or perhaps re-welcome. My mind's lost. Too many
a.r.s. sporgeries <g> waded through.

The Raoul Xemblinosky Experience

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Rebecca Ore wrote:
>
> The Raoul Xemblinosky Experience wrote:
> >
> > Rebecca Ore wrote:
> > >
> > > either or neither, and wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Rebecca Ore <rebec...@op.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >The Raoul Xemblinosky Experience wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> matisse wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > looks like they get to start with questions.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > can i say yet again how much i hate academia.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Stop whining. It's worth the hassle.
> > > > >
> > > > >Anyone who hates academia hasn't experienced the alternative.
> > > >
> > > > Wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone want to try their hand a parody of Joni Mitchell's
> > > > "Both Sides"?
> > >
> > > I get people's recollections about stuff that happened and check it
> > > against deja news posts all the time. Everyone distorts the past. It
> > > never was the way people remember it.
> > >
> > > Though it is entirely possible that your discipline of choice may affect
> > > you, and my profession, which is like writing a something between a
> > > masters thesis doctoral dissertation every year unless I whine my way
> > > through my deadlines, affects me.
> >
> > Juliane has only one dissertation to write and then she is free to
> > spend the rest of her work life subverting young minds. She needs to
> > quit whining and start writing.
>
> Then why is she whining? I have to write another novel/and or learn
> Perl by Sept. 2000.
>
> Then another one, and another one, every 12 to 18 months until I die.
>
> Or learn more about router tables and Java or Java script, and learn a
> new computer language every 3 years until I die.
>
> And she's whinging about writing one dissertation before becoming a
> teacher?

One dissertation is plenty bad enough. Juliane will be a valuable
addition to the profession if she will just shut up and write the
fucking thing.


> (bangs head against table).


>
> By the way, Raoul, I pshifted back into a netcop and dissed you in
> nanau.

That's okay. I still think Andrew Gierth is a hypocritical fuckhead.

The Raoul Xemblinosky Experience

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matisse wrote:
>
> (irony contained within)
>
> Rebecca Ore wrote:
>
> > The Raoul Xemblinosky Experience wrote:
> > >
> > > Rebecca Ore wrote:
> > > >
> > > > either or neither, and wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Rebecca Ore <rebec...@op.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >The Raoul Xemblinosky Experience wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> matisse wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > looks like they get to start with questions.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > can i say yet again how much i hate academia.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Stop whining. It's worth the hassle.
> >
>
> <sob> oh please, you have to help me. it is so wretchedly miserable and i just
> do not know what to do. i have so much to do, and when i do decide it is time
> to take a break, the world around me just looks at me like i am a fool.
>
> oh the insanity of it all, please rescue me from my life of picking lint from my
> teeth! i cannot take it anymore. two years in a phd program and i am breaking,
> unable to keep up with the harsh demands of never having to do anything.
>
> i am even so lazy that i don't even have a committee yet, nor a topic, nor any
> idea as to if i am allowed to write a dissertation. you see, i have this fear
> that i am going to fail, or it is rather a deep dark wish that i will fail. i
> keep waiting, picking lint, hoping that all see me as you so do.

I missed this the first time around. How old are you? Seriously.

silverpelican

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In article <37E64146...@prodigy.net>,
And i thought the posters in nanau were tough! Most appropriately
named, matisse. A genuine master!


>
> just don't let my master,know. i had thought he would help me, but it
seems that
> he has more lint to pick than i do.
>
> > >
> > > Juliane has only one dissertation to write and then she is free to
> > > spend the rest of her work life subverting young minds. She needs
to
> > > quit whining and start writing.
> >
>
> you mean i will actually get to just subvert people's minds? joy,
joy, you just
> made my day. i have this totally unrepresentative picture of what an
academic
> has to do.. and now i am so, so very happy....
>
> so happy that i will not only do the happy/happy joy dance, but i
will even sing
> for you!

The elegance! silverpelican is filled with awe! Speechless.

--
There is no Lumber Cartel and I am not unit# 1932.
"It was necessary to destroy the village in order
to save it". Tet,1968


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Rebecca Ore

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The Raoul Xemblinosky Experience wrote:
>
> Rebecca Ore wrote:

> > (bangs head against table).
> >
> > By the way, Raoul, I pshifted back into a netcop and dissed you in
> > nanau.
>
> That's okay. I still think Andrew Gierth is a hypocritical fuckhead.

Greco dissed him in public. David Ritz cringed a bit. I sent email.
He turned Annihilator off for two days though, ah, that's not something
people announce in public, ah.

Rebecca Ore

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matisse wrote:

>
> i am spoiled and i would be the first to admit it. i mean, please, i do call
> myself a princess!
>
> why do i hide out in academia? i don't really know. i had wanted to go to
> psychoanalytic school and law school. i was going to fight for the rights of the
> mentally ill and the homeless, but a professor said to me, at the end of my
> senior year in college, we cannot lose you to law school. he, as well as others,
> thought i should get the degree i am currently working on..and i didn't know
> what else to do, so i applied. i applied late, in may, and i decided that i
> would enrol in the program at the beginning of august. i didn't know what else
> to do with myself, and as i am a lazy, or rather, like to spend my time doing
> worthless stuff, i said, what the hell. they were going to pay for my tuition,
> so i couldn't turn it down. i love seminars and shit...drinking wine and
> discussing things...... i cannot wait till tomorrow when i will be meeting with
> a good of peers to discuss kant...nothing like getting wasted and discussing
> philosophy!
>

Jesus, Raoul, she's probably about 24. She could make a lot of money
stripping and save it, and play, then when the body starts to be like
the selling point, she could go back to graduate school and appreciate
it, say at 36. And everyone would just be blown away by the cooleth of
a stripper turned Ph.D., instead of a coed who stripped part-time.
Invest in real estate.

Of course, a lot of strippers get killed by crazies.


> in other words, i would never complain about what i get to do, or what i will
> end up doing.
>
> i will hopefully get to spend my life reading books, having discussions with
> peers, and sharing with students. in order to do this, i will end up having to
> write tons of papers and maybe books, which isn't what i want to do, but if it
> means i get to read and teach, so be it.

Community colleges. They *won't* hire you if you have too many
publications.


>
> i am fearful that this is not going to happen, that i will have jumped through
> all these hoops for no particular reason, that i will end up broke, with enough
> debt to sink a ship, and no fucking way to pay it off.

Do not (whack) go to graduate school (whack) in the humanities (whack,
whack) unless they give you money to do it. Some of these things are
the biggest un-indited pyramid schemes in the world -- MFA's (spit).

>
> in any case, i am just going to respond to this post again as opposed to
> continuing on with this nonsensical rambling.
>
> Rebecca Ore wrote:
>
> > The Raoul Xemblinosky Experience wrote:
> > >
> > > Rebecca Ore wrote:
> > > >
> > > > either or neither, and wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Rebecca Ore <rebec...@op.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >The Raoul Xemblinosky Experience wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> matisse wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > looks like they get to start with questions.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > can i say yet again how much i hate academia.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Stop whining. It's worth the hassle.
> >
>
> i'm sorry you thought i was whining. my advisor has just been driving me crazy,
> and i am actually afraid i am being thrown to the lions. i am her only advisee
> left, her other two got thrown to the lions.
>
> what can i say, i am not in the mood to be torn to pieces.

I dropped out of a SUNY-Albany Doctor of Arts program to be crazy and
then to write science fiction after I realized I was only depressed.
Prozac is like acid without the side effects of hallucinations.

(Waffling snipped)


> in other words, yet again, i am spoiled and i appreciate what it is that i have
> to do.
>

Actually, you don't want to be an academic; you want to be a preacher,
only you don't believe in God, which is really a good idea since if
there was a God, I'd have to kill him. Or her. Or it.

> she has already told me what i should write on. i so love the women. now begins
> the battle over my topic, she tried to pick my thesis topic. she lost, she will
> always lose. if i am not passionate about the topic, i don't see the point. good
> thing i am passionate about lots of things.
>
> >
> > Then why is she whining? I have to write another novel/and or learn
> > Perl by Sept. 2000.
> >
>
> i wasn't whining.

(Stern look)

>
> >
> > Then another one, and another one, every 12 to 18 months until I die.
> >
>
> yep, same here girlie, same here.

Teaching at a community college? Or are you....ambitious?

>
> >
> > Or learn more about router tables and Java or Java script, and learn a
> > new computer language every 3 years until I die.
> >
>
> do you enjoy it or is it as painful as you are making it seem?

Thing about novels is they're unpredictable -- and if you don't write
them, you live in a slum, you don't eat well, you don't buy 4x5 view
cameras and studio strobes, and all the good stuff. One of them can be
a sweetheart; the next one will slowly chew on your heart -- sort of
like lovers, I guess.

Computer languages I've avoided so far.


>
> > And she's whinging about writing one dissertation before becoming a
> > teacher?
> >
>
> i am not going to be a teacher, my dear, i am going to be an academic, which
> includes a lot more than just teaching.

Ah, so you are ambitious. You should become a literary agent.

>
> i wish i was only going to be a teacher.
>
> >
> > (bangs head against table).
> >
>
> life is to short to get frustrated.
>
> >
> > By the way, Raoul, I pshifted back into a netcop and dissed you in
> > nanau.
> >
>
> showing your brilliance yet again.


It was a collaboration.

Chris ( @tikva )

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On Sun, 19 Sep 1999 19:32:35 -0500, matisse <mati...@prodigy.net>
wrote:

>looks like they get to start with questions.
>
>can i say yet again how much i hate academia.

obviously, yes.

I think academia is great, but maybe my academia ain't the same as
your academia.


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Chris

Chris ( @tikva )

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On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 07:24:33 -0500, The Raoul Xemblinosky Experience
<rao...@fvckhead.bungmunch.edu> wrote:

>
>Juliane has only one dissertation to write and then she is free to
>spend the rest of her work life subverting young minds.

I knew I was in the wrong discipline. In engineering the young minds
are well and truly subverted already, usually by the drive to acquire
money.


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Chris

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