>Is Layo okay or did Ilya kill her?
>
Plushtoi pops up on my AOL buddy list, every once in a while. Of course
there's no guarantee that it's her.
Bonnie
"pharisaical twit?" Hoo boy. I can tell you're going to do GREAT around
here.
I'm sure at least ten or twenty helpful angsters have e-mailed you all the
information you wanted and then some, right? And then sent along a couple
of {huggsss}, just for good measure.
David pondered:
>> >Is Layo okay or did Ilya kill her?
More to the point, who's currently holding the film rights?
And Bellyup posed a general:
>> Is there an F.A.Q. or something for this group?
To which matisse, predictably, had no intelligent response, but splattered
anyway:
>Wrong thing to mention! DAMN the FAQ.
She's just fighting her intrinsic 'J-ness'; the fallout from this lifelong
conflict is obvious if you've ever read her posts.
The funniest thing I ever seen matisse type was "I fought long and hard for the
right to post my poetry at alt.angst", a statement which not only underlines
the strong J in her MB type but also her confusion between 'being ignored' and
'being accepted'. Her favourite catchall response when out of her depth is
"you just don't GET it", classic projection.
FWIW there is an FAQ and I'm sure someone will post it.
>> Being a latecomer here
>> there are a couple of names floating around and since I often enjoy laughing
>> at other people misfortunes, particularly when they like to accuse one
>> another over the net, will someone please explain to me who are:
>>
>> Ilya
>> Layo
>> Bob
>>
>> and how it is possible that so many people on this group have swapped some
>> sort of bodily fluid.
a) they've been here a long time
b) intelligence is sexy
c) travel is cheap if you avoid Hyatts.
>WHat you wnat is the WNWL.
>
>Do a deja search under looselyfused for Who's not Who. Of course i wouldn't
>believe much of it, as Oli is a pathological liar.
No, he's just witty, and his WNH is completely subjective; he's been known to
omit some of a.a's best contributors because he's out of time and the lads are
meeting down pub for a bevvy.
pinkorangered wrote:
> In article <38B92DC1...@ameritech.net>,
>
> David pondered:
>
> >> >Is Layo okay or did Ilya kill her?
>
> More to the point, who's currently holding the film rights?
>
I really cannot stand the way your mind works. There is no fighting of J where
you are concerned dear. And this, no doubt, bothers you to know end, as i *love*
everyone else.
Kill the MAN!
>
> And Bellyup posed a general:
>
> >> Is there an F.A.Q. or something for this group?
>
> To which matisse, predictably, had no intelligent response, but splattered
> anyway:
>
> >Wrong thing to mention! DAMN the FAQ.
>
> She's just fighting her intrinsic 'J-ness'; the fallout from this lifelong
> conflict is obvious if you've ever read her posts.
>
HAHHAHAHHAHAHh Stop, i am going to pee in my pants!
>
> The funniest thing I ever seen matisse type was "I fought long and hard for the
> right to post my poetry at alt.angst", a statement which not only underlines
> the strong J in her MB type but also her confusion between 'being ignored' and
> 'being accepted'. Her favourite catchall response when out of her depth is
> "you just don't GET it", classic projection.
>
SLAM!
Have you ever heard of hermeneutics, and, more importantly, the hermeneutic circle?
Welcome to the world of hermeneutics, dear boy. It is a place whereby "crying
wolf" rings with new meaning.
>
> FWIW there is an FAQ and I'm sure someone will post it.
>
DAMN THE MAN!
>
> >> Being a latecomer here
> >> there are a couple of names floating around and since I often enjoy laughing
> >> at other people misfortunes, particularly when they like to accuse one
> >> another over the net, will someone please explain to me who are:
> >>
> >> Ilya
> >> Layo
> >> Bob
> >>
> >> and how it is possible that so many people on this group have swapped some
> >> sort of bodily fluid.
>
> a) they've been here a long time
> b) intelligence is sexy
> c) travel is cheap if you avoid Hyatts.
>
HAHAHHA i have to say, pinko, i haven't laughed this much in ages. Truly. You
are just so fucking amusing. I only wish you were *cute* on top of it, cause then i
would just /have/ to exchange bodily fluids with you. I /would/ pledge eternal
cocksucking rights just to hear your wit and brilliance.
And there is nothing more exciting then going down on a man.
>
> >WHat you wnat is the WNWL.
> >
> >Do a deja search under looselyfused for Who's not Who. Of course i wouldn't
> >believe much of it, as Oli is a pathological liar.
>
> No, he's just witty, and his WNH is completely subjective; he's been known to
> omit some of a.a's best contributors because he's out of time and the lads are
> meeting down pub for a bevvy.
HAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHA
don't get me wrong, i *love* oli. But he /is/ a pathological liar. Gauche also
follows him everywhere.
Trust me, it takes one to know one.
besides, Never use a word like bevvy in relation to oli. I can see his face
getting all pasty white. It would be like saying, "let's have a cocktail."
j
--
"Do lots of acid!" the wise words of Oli.
(Blushing.) Thanks.
>I'm sure at least ten or twenty helpful angsters have e-mailed you all the
>information you wanted and then some, right? And then sent along a couple
>of {huggsss}, just for good measure.
Well, I have no idea why they'd be e-mailing me an obviously fake address.
What's your problem anyways? We've both established our jerkiness; you
don't need to reiterate yours for me.
Or does it irk you that you've lost your special place as resident asshole?
I'm sorry, I'll ease off. Unlike some people, I don't need the title THAT
badly.
Just felt like flaming somebody. You were handy. It's kind of a tradition
around here.
> Or does it irk you that you've lost your special place as resident
> asshole?
You think you're a bigger asshole than me? I'd say you better post some
evidence, tough guy.
Nobody's answered my question. IS Layo still alive?
The
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On 28 Feb 2000, pinkorangered wrote to matisse:
> I nominate Davey as my proxy fellatree.
Which I'd gladly accept. (Yoo-hoo, J., over here!)
The
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>I really cannot stand the way your mind works.
See?
> There is no fighting of J where
>you are concerned dear.
But you don't even subscribe to the notion of personality types past the I/E
dichotomy . Remember? I guess you've forgotten...after all you posted that, oh,
minutes ago.
>And this, no doubt, bothers you to know end, as i *love*
>everyone else.
Given your penchant for mangling the language as you do, one wonders how you
ever manage a login. I'm guessing your usename is J and your password is N.
Now, what was it you were trying to say?
>HAHHAHAHHAHAHh Stop, i am going to pee in my pants!
The only wetness they've ever experienced I'm sure.
>SLAM!
>
>Have you ever heard of hermeneutics, and, more importantly, the hermeneutic
circle?
No I haven't, and being the open minded indivdual I am, I DO look forward to
your illucidation on the topic, though I'm not optimistic it will be
intelligible.
>> a) they've been here a long time
>> b) intelligence is sexy
>> c) travel is cheap if you avoid Hyatts.
>>
>
>HAHAHHA i have to say, pinko, i haven't laughed this much in ages. Truly.
You
>are just so fucking amusing.
Note, reader, that matisse is not known to have swapped bodily fluids with any
other poster, though she did a few 6-packs with essa once. See point (b)
above.
>I only wish you were *cute* on top of it, cause then i
>would just /have/ to exchange bodily fluids with you. I /would/ pledge eternal
>cocksucking rights just to hear your wit and brilliance.
But I AM cute, AND witty, and taste DELECTABLE. I would not, however, expose
my hallowed organ to the fetid bogs of your rancid oral cavity under any
conceivable circumstances. I nominate Davey as my proxy fellatree.
>And there is nothing more exciting then going down on a man.
Who told YOU?
>don't get me wrong, i *love* oli. But he /is/ a pathological liar.
This, from the self-confessed confabulatrix herself. Reminds me of an old
conundrum about two guards at two doors, and one always lies...
>besides, Never use a word like bevvy in relation to oli. I can see his face
>getting all pasty white.
He's english. They're all pasty white.
>"Do lots of acid!" the wise words of Oli.
Clearly you took his advice. Now don't you have to sharpen your ferrets or
something?
>Is Layo okay or did Ilya kill her?
No evidence yet.
Even for Ilya, it would make more sense to kill Steve. But you never know.
He's done an excellent setup for an insanity defense. But the police are
notoriously lax about investigating murders of homeless people anyway. I'm
not sure how to find out if either of the bodies have been found.
On the other hand, she might not have a lot of time for alt.angst. If she's
using public access she can't build a decent killfile, so her best bet would
be to scan DejaNews for things that look interesting. Putting her name in
the title is a good approach to getting her attention. Maybe she'll answer
you.
>Note, reader, that matisse is not known to have swapped bodily fluids with any
>other poster, though she did a few 6-packs with essa once. See point (b)
>above.
It sounds like you haven't been keeping up. She made a big point about a
long-term relationship with one aa poster, as did he, and there were a lot
of insinuations and innuendos about another one who'd recently left Layo.
And then there's whatever's been kept private.
I'm not going to name names in case one or more of the participants would
rather forget about it.
> It sounds like you haven't been keeping up. She made a big point
> about a long-term relationship with one aa poster, as did he, and
> there were a lot of insinuations and innuendos about another one who'd
> recently left Layo. And then there's whatever's been kept private.
> I'm not going to name names in case one or more of the participants
> would rather forget about it.
The swappee was only posting to angst to suck up to her in the first
place, and then to dump on her in the second. Unless he does the sick
retrograde deja vu thing, he will never be heard from again. I wouldn't
count him.
You don't really think she did anything with kindalost, do you?
Bukvich
[ ' d'uh ' ]
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
> >besides, Never use a word like bevvy in relation to oli. I can see
his face
> >getting all pasty white.
>
> He's english. They're all pasty white.
This is a lie. I'm not english.
I am pasty white though.
In summer.
In winter I'm a kind of pale blue.
---
'could ye go a chicken supper Bobby Sands
could ye go a chicken supper Bobby Sands
could ye go a chicken supper
ya filthy fenian fucker?
could ye go a chicken supper Bobby Sands?'
Traditional Glasgow Rangers supporters song...
---
On a scale of general fuckheadedness (GF):
1. Americans (clear winners)
2. Australians other than Kylie
3. Supporters of Glasgow Rangers FC
4. The perfidious French (i.e. all of them)
5. Cat lovers
6. People currently writing to soc.singles
7. Ilya
8. Women
9. Everyone else
---
Hey gsk! Dublin I R E L A N D 23/02/1972 3.00 - 6.00AM
That bitch Layo refuses to tell me what it means, I don't trust Ilya,
Bukvich won't do it for free and alt.astrology won't answer me.
Help me g...@panix.com, you're my only hope.
Feel free to read my back catalog of posts in doing your thing but bear
in mind that I'm a pathological liar.
---
Ooooh! People talking about me. Happy Happy, Joy Joy.
jonah thomas wrote:
> pinkor...@nospam.newsguy.com (pinkorangered) wrote:
>
> >Note, reader, that matisse is not known to have swapped bodily fluids with any
> >other poster, though she did a few 6-packs with essa once. See point (b)
> >above.
>
> It sounds like you haven't been keeping up. She made a big point about a
> long-term relationship with one aa poster, as did he, and there were a lot
> of insinuations and innuendos about another one who'd recently left Layo.
> And then there's whatever's been kept private.
>
> I'm not going to name names in case one or more of the participants would
> rather forget about it.
Thank you jet.
'David O'Bedlam' wrote:
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> On 28 Feb 2000, pinkorangered wrote to matisse:
>
> > I nominate Davey as my proxy fellatree.
>
> Which I'd gladly accept. (Yoo-hoo, J., over here!)
>
thank god. I really couldn't imagine going down of someone like pinko.
He most likely would destroy my love of giving head and then i would be
ruined for life.
>
>
> The
>
> - --
> "There is nothing more exciting than going down on a man." --Matisse
> ..................................................................
great.
DP
On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, matisse wrote:
> > - --
> > "There is nothing more exciting than going down on a man." --Matisse
> great.
I only did it once, here, to tease you. See? Nothing in my usual
.Sig but the Frank O'Hara quote.
The
P.S. So how do I get to your place? It won't stretch THAT far.
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pinkorangered wrote:
> In article <38B9C9A0...@ameritech.net>, mat...@ameritech.net raved...
>
> >I really cannot stand the way your mind works.
>
> See?
>
See what? That i have no problem with making judgements.
>
> > There is no fighting of J where
> >you are concerned dear.
>
> But you don't even subscribe to the notion of personality types past the I/E
> dichotomy . Remember? I guess you've forgotten...after all you posted that, oh,
> minutes ago.
>
<laughter> give it up already, your stupid fuck. You don't have to "subscribe" to
concepts in order to use them. If people actually subscribed to all the concepts
which they used, people wouldn't say a whole lot.
Jen is right, it is cute that you think you have an instrinsic personality.
>
> >And this, no doubt, bothers you to know end, as i *love*
> >everyone else.
>
> Given your penchant for mangling the language as you do, one wonders how you
> ever manage a login. I'm guessing your usename is J and your password is N.
>
> Now, what was it you were trying to say?
Someday i would love to see you flame people without reducing things to
"playground" tactics.
I get this weird imagine in my head sometimes that we are all at recess in grade
school, and here comes pinko with words of wisdom, "You self-projecting, reject.
What? You can't play kick ball with us, your feet ruin everything. There will be no
'acceptance card' for you!"
Throw darts dear, not jump ropes.
>
> >HAHHAHAHHAHAHh Stop, i am going to pee in my pants!
>
> The only wetness they've ever experienced I'm sure.
(again, another grade school attack. You really are so fucking amusing)
>
> >SLAM!
> >
> >Have you ever heard of hermeneutics, and, more importantly, the hermeneutic
> circle?
>
> No I haven't, and being the open minded indivdual I am, I DO look forward to
> your illucidation on the topic, though I'm not optimistic it will be
> intelligible.
>
I do not have the time or patience to discuss the deeper levels of "projection"
and "mirrors" with you. I just do not see the point.
I will say this: when one says anything about another, they are usually saying
more about themselves. You seem to understand the basic nature of projection, what
you fail to understand is the constant "mirror" effect, whereby then your
criticisms are nothing but neat tricks of reflective mirrors.
There were many "reflections" that your little spiel gave off. I chose to remain
silent on them because i feel no need to throw darts or mirrors with you.
One day soon i may throw darts at you. You have no ethical core, and you feel this
need to quote things said in private at angst. What i find most amusing is that you
end most of your own emails with "don't quote me!" yet you quote other people. And
if there is one thing i cannot stand, it is narrow minded pencil heads that live in
a world of hypocrisy without even admitting to it. Again, "playground" tactics. To
quote jen, to speak is to be a hypocrite (does someone have the exact quote?)
Of course i do like you richard. There is no reason for me not to like you. You
are, however, like this annoying little fly that is always snipping on my toes to
see if you can get a rise out of me. The only thing it does is give rise to pity
in me, and i never feel pity, as it is a useless emotion.
One day soon i will have to think about why you bring this emotion out of me. It
most likely has to do with he fact that you remind me of myself when i was about
15. And if there is one thing i cannot stand, it is to be around people that may
pull me back into a place and way of being i have fought so hard to leave behind.
OUt of all the fucks here, you are the only one that could cause regression with
your contamination.
For this, i have to like you, but at the same time, i know i need clean air. And
there is no such thing when i am around you. You rube my aesthetic in the wrong
way, and it is clear to ME why you do.
>
> >> a) they've been here a long time
> >> b) intelligence is sexy
> >> c) travel is cheap if you avoid Hyatts.
> >>
> >
> >HAHAHHA i have to say, pinko, i haven't laughed this much in ages. Truly.
> You
> >are just so fucking amusing.
>
> Note, reader, that matisse is not known to have swapped bodily fluids with any
> other poster, though she did a few 6-packs with essa once. See point (b)
> above.
>
See Jet.
>
> >I only wish you were *cute* on top of it, cause then i
> >would just /have/ to exchange bodily fluids with you. I /would/ pledge eternal
> >cocksucking rights just to hear your wit and brilliance.
>
> But I AM cute, AND witty, and taste DELECTABLE. I would not, however, expose
> my hallowed organ to the fetid bogs of your rancid oral cavity under any
> conceivable circumstances. I nominate Davey as my proxy fellatree.
>
thank god. i was fearful i would actually have to touch you. and you /do/ know how
boys have cooties and all.
>
> >And there is nothing more exciting then going down on a man.
>
> Who told YOU?
>
<laughter>
>
> >besides, Never use a word like bevvy in relation to oli. I can see his face
> >getting all pasty white.
>
> He's english. They're all pasty white.
>
He isn't english.
>
> >"Do lots of acid!" the wise words of Oli.
>
> Clearly you took his advice. Now don't you have to sharpen your ferrets or
> something?
I haven't touched acid in at least 8 years. I have done some boomers recently, but
no acid. I did do lots of acid when i was 15/16, way before oli every tried the
stuff. It does surely explain a lot. I have little doubt that my own
looselyfusedness is due to too many drugs.
it does explain a lot, doesn't it. It was well worth it! Do lots of acid!
BTW, please do not use the ferrets in any manner such as the one above. My babies
are all dead, and i would like to keep them untainted. Of course you always feel
this need to taint things that are precious to others, and that is o.k. (to sound
like jonah). Someday you will out see other possibilities.
DP
'David O'Bedlam' wrote:
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> On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, matisse wrote:
>
> > > - --
> > > "There is nothing more exciting than going down on a man." --Matisse
>
> > great.
>
> I only did it once, here, to tease you. See? Nothing in my usual
> .Sig but the Frank O'Hara quote.
>
> The
>
> P.S. So how do I get to your place? It won't stretch THAT far.
>
<laughter> too bad.
It would make more sense for me to come to you anyway. Give me a few
months, and then i will come to you.
I'll even bring you coffee, if you ask nicely.
DP
>> >Note, reader, that matisse is not known to have swapped bodily fluids with
>> >any other poster, though she did a few 6-packs with essa once. See point (b)
>> >above.
>> It sounds like you haven't been keeping up.
>Thank you jet.
You're welcome. Ah, are you thanking me for defending your reputation
against pinko's claim that you don't have sex, or for not naming names?
I've noticed lots of american women are kind of ambivalent about this. They
don't really want reputations as sluts, but they don't want people to think
they couldn't be really great sluts if they wanted to be.
> And there is no such thing when i am around you. You rube my aesthetic in the
> wrong way, and it is clear to ME why you do.
You misspelled "lube".
On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, matisse wrote:
[snipped bilateral attacks]
> I will say this: when one says anything about another, they are usually saying
> more about themselves. You seem to understand the basic nature of projection, what
> you fail to understand is the constant "mirror" effect, whereby then your
> criticisms are nothing but neat tricks of reflective mirrors.
Hmmm...
> One day soon i will have to think about why you bring this emotion out of me. It
> most likely has to do with he fact that you remind me of myself when i was about
> 15. And if there is one thing i cannot stand, it is to be around people that may
> pull me back into a place and way of being i have fought so hard to leave behind.
> OUt of all the fucks here, you are the only one that could cause regression with
> your contamination.
[...]
I would give up a lot to be 17 again, maybe even 16 or younger. Oh, I
might not do anything any differently, but I would definitely enjoy being
there again. The magic of that time, when everything was larger than life,
and life itself was too big to be looked at in any reasonable scale. It
was like staring into a starry sky. Oh, man, I could do that again.
One of the greatest parts of being who I am now is being able to relive
those memories and to laugh at the drama that seemed so significant then,
but when I was in the drama, it was electric. Out all night. Love, lust,
intoxication of all types and to great excess. Promises we could never
keep that seemed so important to make at the time. The music. The
lights. The complexity of understanding life's simplicity. The dingy
apartments and the bad decisions as well as the rare good ones.
I think the greatest thing someone could do for me is to make me feel that
again. I want to be wild and impulsive and out of control again. Being
settled is so totally unsettling for me, and those days seem so long ago
and that self is so far from me now. Has it really been that long? Shit. I
hate time.
> I haven't touched acid in at least 8 years. I have done some boomers recently, but
> no acid. I did do lots of acid when i was 15/16, way before oli every tried the
> stuff. It does surely explain a lot. I have little doubt that my own
> looselyfusedness is due to too many drugs.
Too many drugs? Eh? Wha...? <blink> <blink>
On Sun, 27 Feb 2000, it was written:
[...]
> and how it is possible that so many people on this group have swapped some
> sort of bodily fluid.
The old fashioned way, of course, silly, although I don't guess I can
speak for everyone.
>
>It would make more sense for me to come to you anyway. Give me a few
>months, and then i will come to you.
>
>I'll even bring you coffee, if you ask nicely.
Davey, you have offer and acceptance = contract. Get advice on what
constitutes a "few months" and at its expiration seek immediate fulfilment or
damages in lieu.
Personally I'd be holding out for the damages, although I imagine you could
probably get both if her oral skills are anything like her verbal skills.
jonah thomas wrote:
I said thank you for not mentioning names.
j
><laughter> give it up already, your stupid fuck. You don't have to "subscribe"
to
>concepts in order to use them. If people actually subscribed to all the
concepts
>which they used, people wouldn't say a whole lot.
You see, a typical herring-a-la-matisse. "When proven wrong just mince the
words up until the entire argument is unrecognisable, and my faux-pas will
dissolve in the mix."
>Someday i would love to see you flame people without reducing things to
>"playground" tactics.
That 'a.angst is a playgorund' is your entire raison d'etre ici, so you say.
However the point here WAS that you typed a completely unintelligible sentence
and clearly you're embarrassed so I'll let it slide.
>I get this weird imagine in my head sometimes that we are all at recess in
grade
>school, and here comes pinko with words of wisdom, "You self-projecting,
reject.
>What? You can't play kick ball with us, your feet ruin everything. There will
be no
>'acceptance card' for you!"
Actually, I was always the kid they wouldn't let play.
>One day soon i may throw darts at you. You have no ethical core, and you feel
this
>need to quote things said in private at angst.
If I've done so it was by accident, or something inocuous enough that it could
have been said anywhere.
>What i find most amusing is that you
>end most of your own emails with "don't quote me!" yet you quote other people.
It's a sigfile and it goes like this:
--------------------
"Don't quote me"
-me
--------------------
see? ironic humour. GET IT?
> The only thing it does is give rise to pity
>in me, and i never feel pity, as it is a useless emotion.
That sentence stands alone and I think should appear in the OED under
"matisseism". I'll petition the the old boys at Oxbridge immediately to
recognise this new literary tool.
>
>See Jet.
And quite a revelation it was! But as he so rightly pointed out, something
they'd all prefer to forget, if they haven't already.
>> >besides, Never use a word like bevvy in relation to oli. I can see his
face
>> >getting all pasty white.
>>
>> He's english. They're all pasty white.
>>
>
>He isn't english.
Well there you go, my research department has let me down. Or is it idle
pedantry? He's "British" perhaps?
I'm bored. The problem here is that you're simply a poor communicator in
respect of reading/interpretation as much as expression, so we're both just
wasting bandwidth.
pinkorangered wrote:
> In article <38BA883B...@ameritech.net>, mat...@ameritech.net
> stammered...
>
> ><laughter> give it up already, your stupid fuck. You don't have to "subscribe"
> to
> >concepts in order to use them. If people actually subscribed to all the
> concepts
> >which they used, people wouldn't say a whole lot.
>
> You see, a typical herring-a-la-matisse. "When proven wrong just mince the
> words up until the entire argument is unrecognisable, and my faux-pas will
> dissolve in the mix."
>
<laughter> whatever dear.
>
> >Someday i would love to see you flame people without reducing things to
> >"playground" tactics.
>
> That 'a.angst is a playgorund' is your entire raison d'etre ici, so you say.
> However the point here WAS that you typed a completely unintelligible sentence
> and clearly you're embarrassed so I'll let it slide.
>
which sentence are you referring to? i wasn't paying attention. fuck it, i have an
hour before i have to work out, i will check it out, and give you a full commentary
on how that sentence made me FEEL.
>And this, no doubt, bothers you to know end, as i *love*
> >everyone else.
>
> Given your penchant for mangling the language as you do, one wonders how you
> ever manage a login. I'm guessing your usename is J and your password is N.
>
> Now, what was it you were trying to say?
oh, you mean i wrote Know instead of No. Why in god's name would that embarrass
me?
I was doing my taxes last night, and at one point, i had to run upstairs and
explain to my father what i was trying to do, because i knew i was making a
mistake. So i go upstairs, pop down on the couch next to him, begin to explain
what's what, and then i realized that i was working on the wrong worksheet. My
father laughed at me, and said, would you please just take your time.
He also was yelling at me because he was watching me surf the IRS pages, and he
cannot stand that i click more than once. At one point he raised his voice and
said, "Don't click it so many times!" I turned around and said, "dad, stop with
your yelling. let me be."
>
> >I get this weird imagine in my head sometimes that we are all at recess in
> grade
> >school, and here comes pinko with words of wisdom, "You self-projecting,
> reject.
> >What? You can't play kick ball with us, your feet ruin everything. There will
> be no
> >'acceptance card' for you!"
>
> Actually, I was always the kid they wouldn't let play.
>
I'm sorry. I have always been athletic, and i was actually very good at kicking
balls. My favourite was hockey in high school. I usually had gym with my sister
Kathy, and she wasn't all that athletic. In any case, i got a kick out of hazing
her (still do), and whenever she was on the opposite team, i would make her life a
living nightmare. of course, since it was just us girls playing such games, no one
seemed to care if the game ended up being filled with silly amusements.
When i was in junior high, i would play ice hockey with my brother and the boys. I
loved to play with them, not so much because i could easily get the puck away from
the big boys, but rather because i was very quick on my feet, and none of them
could out skate me. I also liked flag football. Now that i think about it, i
don't think there was a sport i didn't enjoy playing. My favourite, though, was
always running and strength training class. Even when i was a senior, smoking a
few packs of smokes a day, and a drugie, i could still out run everyone. USually
this one girl and i would run together, and she too was a drugie. Supposedly we
should have been the worst runners in the class, but she and i found a wonderful
high in running and lifting weights.
Skiing and swimming in the ocean (body surfing) will always be my favourites. I
like the breeze and salty air. I also like the sensation of diving through waves,
especially when high tide is going out, and the sea pulls and twists you, trying as
hard as it can to take you out to sea.
When i was 3, we lived on the jersey shore. I don't remember much from that time
period, but my first memory (ever) is of my baby-sitter. She was this tall, thin
blond girl that would throw me above the waves. How i love that.
I miss the ocean.
>
> >One day soon i may throw darts at you. You have no ethical core, and you feel
> this
> >need to quote things said in private at angst.
>
> If I've done so it was by accident, or something inocuous enough that it could
> have been said anywhere.
>
I have always found it interesting what people push off as accidents and what they
push off as innocuous. What i mean is, sometimes people allow for accidents and
other times they don't. Accidents can be used as excuses when you fuck up, or they
can be used to hold something against another. Everything is an accident,
everything is chance. It all depends on what one is willing to give meaning to,
and we all tend to give different meanings to the same thing.
As jet said, we are just leaving foot prints, traces. What becomes of them, we
will never know. Most likely, the waves will crash onto shore and destroy the
prints, wiping out any recollection that we ever walked on such shores. I find it
amusing how different people view this. I can hear whitman proclaiming the
brilliance of never leaving a mark, to only then cry out that then we never
existed. . In other writers, it is again a matter of responsibility. Everything
does come down to responsibility in one way or another. Those who want to flee
responsibility tend to like everything turning to ashes, while others hate it, as
they want so much to be seen.
I tend to go back and forth between the two. I love it when everything is destroyed
(can't help myself from finding joy in destruction). At the same time, it makes me
a little sad to know that soon it will all be gone. I also go back and forth
between words being fleeting glimpses of nothing and words being the most precious
creatures alive. It all depends on situation and whether we take something to have
meaning or not. Which then comes down to different people with different frames and
values, and thereby with different interpretations on what is innocuous or not.
This in turn comes down to justice and will to power. For me, it is best to let
others decide what is innocuous to them or not. The will to power is a strange
little creature, and what it wants more than anything is to take everything and
smash it into its own lenses, thereby destroying the infinite and every other
meaning. In fact, the greatest will to power is to crystallize meaning, and we
strive to do this at every turn. I would say i hate this about the will to
power, but i cannot hate something that creates grounding and handles (frames). If
it didnt' do so, i couldn't walk, and i thereby couldn't leave any foot prints. And
even if my foot prints are going to be taken up by another, destroyed, masked and
concealed from view, i still wouldn't want to not be able to walk. I like the
feeling of sands and pebbles under my feet, it lets me know i am alive. Even if i
know that immediately someone will take something as innocuous when it isn't. Or
rather, even when i know that quickly it will be taken into the frames of another
and taken out of sight.
>
> > The only thing it does is give rise to pity
> >in me, and i never feel pity, as it is a useless emotion.
>
> That sentence stands alone and I think should appear in the OED under
> "matisseism". I'll petition the the old boys at Oxbridge immediately to
> recognise this new literary tool.
>
You just don't like my style. I know it isn't anything impressive, but it is me,
and i can live with that. My brain produces the strangest things at times.
For instance, whenever i type out Hello, i want to put a W on the end. It seems to
me that it should have a W on the end.
When i was a freshman in college, at good old Purdue, i had this one writing
instructor that couldn't stand my writing. He was really pissing me off, so when
we got our assignment to write a HOW TO essay, i decided to write a sarcastic piece
on How to clean out an astray. The top choice was "licking it clean with your
tongue." I don't remember his comments on it. In fact, i don't think he made any
comments about my topic choice. That piece was so fun to write. I sometimes wish i
still had it on file somewhere.
>
> >
> >See Jet.
>
> And quite a revelation it was! But as he so rightly pointed out, something
> they'd all prefer to forget, if they haven't already.
>
Your will to power is always easy to spot.
>
> >> >besides, Never use a word like bevvy in relation to oli. I can see his
> face
> >> >getting all pasty white.
> >>
> >> He's english. They're all pasty white.
> >>
> >
> >He isn't english.
>
> Well there you go, my research department has let me down. Or is it idle
> pedantry? He's "British" perhaps?
>
I just thought you should know that he isn't english.
>
> I'm bored. The problem here is that you're simply a poor communicator in
> respect of reading/interpretation as much as expression, so we're both just
> wasting bandwidth.
whatever you say dear.
DP
Melia wrote:
Unfortunately you can't speak for all of us. Never exchanged bodily fluid with
anyone here.
Pat...although I did have a cookout with a few angsters, and I've met Jet.
pinkorangered wrote:
Actually David, if you can manage a manage' with these two and your penis scam
just might work.
Pat...casually
Melia wrote:
> I would give up a lot to be 17 again, maybe even 16 or younger.
Egad. Not me.
> Oh, I
> might not do anything any differently, but I would definitely enjoy being
> there again. The magic of that time, when everything was larger than life,
> and life itself was too big to be looked at in any reasonable scale. It
> was like staring into a starry sky. Oh, man, I could do that again.
This life seems quite long enough to me without having to go back three spaces like some
monopoly "chance" card, or worse sliding all the way back to my teens like some bad
landing in shutes and ladders.
> One of the greatest parts of being who I am now is being able to relive
> those memories and to laugh at the drama that seemed so significant then,
> but when I was in the drama, it was electric.
One of the greatest parts of being who I am now is having had enough to drink to kill off
most of the brain cells that lodge those memories.
> Out all night. Love, lust,
> intoxication of all types and to great excess. Promises we could never
> keep that seemed so important to make at the time. The music. The
> lights. The complexity of understanding life's simplicity. The dingy
> apartments and the bad decisions as well as the rare good ones.
Hey, wait a minute...Other than that bit about promises that's a pretty accurate account
of where my dumb-ass still is. No fair you getting to grow out of it so soon.
> I think the greatest thing someone could do for me is to make me feel that
> again. I want to be wild and impulsive and out of control again. Being
> settled is so totally unsettling for me, and those days seem so long ago
> and that self is so far from me now. Has it really been that long? Shit. I
> hate time.
"Time is but the stream I go a-fishing in. I drink at it and while I drink I see its
sandy bottom and detect how shallow it is. Its thin current slides away, but eternity
remains. I would drink deeper. I would fish in the sky whose bottom is pebbly with
stars. I cannot count one. I know not the first letter in the alphabet. I have always
been regretting I was never as wise as the day I was born." Henry David Thoreau
Pat...will it never end?
Bellyup wrote:
> Is there an F.A.Q. or something for this group? Being a latecomer here
> there are a couple of names floating around and since I often enjoy laughing
> at other people misfortunes, particularly when they like to accuse one
> another over the net, will someone please explain to me who are:
Stevi used to shove the FAQ down our throats monthly, but I don't know what
happened to her or it. I remember pissing her off by correcting it though.
Hehehe. All the damn pedants around here and the actor found the mistakes.
Wheeeeeeeee!
> and how it is possible that so many people on this group have swapped some
> sort of bodily fluid.
One word: Angstcon.
> Thanks,
> Belly
My pleasure,
Pat...and rub your head at the same time
I bet she's a sweetie in real life!
*snickering*
I read some time ago that Layo had lost internet access and I took it as
proof that there was a God after all. Unfortunately, she re-appeared and I
took it as just my luck to find that I had been misinformed about the
deity's presence.
It's like so many things in life - the Loch Ness monster, divine
benevolence, Layo having a talent for writing ... you *so* want these things
to be true but every day you see new evidence that they are all ludicrous
myths.
dav
fern...@freeuk.com
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