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pataphor

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Dec 24, 2009, 7:23:10 AM12/24/09
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I now know why hearing voices and laying out the Tarot cards for oneself
are one and the same thing as having a dog barking each time a visitor
arrives at the door, even if on a conscious level one would very much
like the dog to be silent. See, the dog just responds in a Pavlovian way
to its training, and since the more irritated and upset its owner gets
because of its barking, the more attention it gets. It works the same
for writing trolling posts on Usenet, and surely things will go sour in
the same way.

For example, tonight when I was laying in bed, warmed by my hot water
bottles (remember boys, even if putting socks around your bottles keeps
them warmer for longer and they burn your skin less, don't ever put
recently washed and still wet socks around your bottles because they
will turn your bed into a sauna), I woke up noticing I had an erection
and I needed to pee too. I'm sure some of us will recognize this
peculiar problem, how is one going to do it with the toilet, stand on
one's head or something? That's when I noticed an empty bottle next to
my bed with a large enough opening. I could handle the matter without
ever emerging from under the sheets and, even better, without having to
wait for my erection to subdue. Oh, what bliss! I'm sure this rewarding
feedback loop will someday bite me in the ass, but for now it seems like
heaven.

Come to think of it, there could be a little sucking device one could
wear and that would take care of the matter automatically. But what if
one would wanted to have sex too? After all, there was an erection. I
decided the device would be wearable for a girl and since there is not
much space in there it would use the girl's bladder as a temporary
storage device. Now *she* would have to get up and go to the toilet. If
only.

But still I see great potential for this idea because with a little
adaptation the working could be reversed and people could exchange
diverse kinds of body fluids at will. Or heat. Or steal sperm.

Another thing is, human pee is just the body's way of getting rid of
ureum but a simple genetic engineering adaptation or micro technological
device could extract the water and return it to the human's bloodstream
while turning the ureum into neat little pills and deposit them in
someone's rectum so they could be expelled. For that matter, there is a
lot of water in shit too, that could be extracted and reused as well.
We'd end up with very dry and hard little shit pellets that would only
have a lubricated surface to make it go out easier.

That would reduce our problems with getting up when it is cold a lot. In
fact, I suppose we would almost never have to shit or pee again. Ah, the
wonders of modern technology. Wait, do I hear a dog barking? Is someone
coming?

P.

Jonah Thomas

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Dec 24, 2009, 11:47:24 PM12/24/09
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pataphor <pata...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I now know why hearing voices and laying out the Tarot cards for
> oneself are one and the same thing as having a dog barking each time a
> visitor arrives at the door, even if on a conscious level one would
> very much like the dog to be silent. See, the dog just responds in a
> Pavlovian way to its training, and since the more irritated and upset
> its owner gets because of its barking, the more attention it gets. It
> works the same for writing trolling posts on Usenet, and surely things
> will go sour in the same way.

Behavior chains. We generate long complex behavior chains because the
start of the chain becomes a symbol for its completion.

Like, say it happens a few times that women get drunk with you and then
they have sex with you. When you want to have sex you might find
yourself trying to get women drunk, as if it's a prerequisite. And
suppose you then notice that women who smile at you sometimes get drunk
with you, while women who do not smile seldom do. Then you might find
yourself trying doing things to get women to smile at you. The more time
you spend noticing what happens before the behavior chain starts, the
more likely you are to add another link at the beginning.



> Another thing is, human pee is just the body's way of getting rid of
> ureum but a simple genetic engineering adaptation or micro
> technological device could extract the water and return it to the
> human's bloodstream while turning the ureum into neat little pills and
> deposit them in someone's rectum so they could be expelled. For that
> matter, there is a lot of water in shit too, that could be extracted
> and reused as well. We'd end up with very dry and hard little shit
> pellets that would only have a lubricated surface to make it go out
> easier.

Birds do that. The amount of liquid varies with need, but they make
little piles of white powdery uric acid that they pile onto their
excreta. Lizards do it. Fish make ammonia. They can afford to, because
they don't have to worry about getting enough water to dilute it out.

Uric acid is not very soluble so you'd want to get rid of it quickly,
not let much build up that might then precipitate into sharp crystals. I
don't know how birds deal with that issue. But if it works for them it
might work for us. Evolution does tend toward eventually producing good
designs, but the earth is not that big a place to evolve in and lots of
good designs just haven't had time to spread well yet.

Humans are optimised for hot dry climates where there is enough drinking
water. We are very very good at sweating. If something goes wrong and
our population crashes, there will likely still be a few people
surviving in hot dry climates and we won't go completely extinct. Before
you choose to makek fundamental changes in our physiology, wouldn't it
be good to make sure that there is an ecological niche waiting for the
changed people?

pataphor

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Dec 25, 2009, 6:15:32 AM12/25/09
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Jonah Thomas wrote:

> Before you choose to makek fundamental changes in our physiology,
wouldn't
> it be good to make sure that there is an ecological niche waiting for
> the changed people?

Why wait? Did Riemann wait for Einstein? The spice must flow.

P.

'Low Bat'

The Mad Prophet

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Dec 31, 2009, 3:41:00 PM12/31/09
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Jonah Thomas <jeth...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]

> Humans are optimised for hot dry climates where there is enough

> drinking water. We are very very good at sweating.... Before you

> choose to makek fundamental changes in our physiology, wouldn't it be
> good to make sure that there is an ecological niche waiting for the
> changed people?

What physical changes would make living in central Kentucky easier, let
alone North Dakota?

I think we've started already: we've managed to add a layer of blubber
like whales. But we haven't yet grown fur, which would be less costly
than fat because it'd be easier to shed during the warm months and
wouldn't shorten our lifespans.

We should cut out any heat source except for but locally-gathered and
directly-burned wood, coal or oil (as opposed to electricity or piped in
natural gas) so we could select from those who survive. If it turns out
that everybody who survives to reproduce is bald-bodied and "plus sized"
(instead of my own personal preference, thin and furry) then of course
our sexual aesthetics and cultural biases would change too. Unless we
were enslaved by alien lizards or those adapted for the tropics, in
which case we might still be psychologically fucked up the way black
people are who hate dark skin. (Wouldn't it be weird to have a white
race conquered by Africans, Maya or Tamils?)

We'll get there eventually after we've run out of easily accessible
big-time fossil fuel sources, after we leave a big sinkhole under the
Arab countries and flatten all the mountains we can, and we'd need more
infrastructure than we've bothered to start to replace petroleum and
coal with nuclear power or even natural gas. (Assuming with natural gas
that there's enough go around, which I doubt; I don't know what'll
happen after we've used up all the natural gas deposits either, while
it's obvious that getting all the coal from the Appalachians would leave
West Virginia flat if not sunken in.) It seems to me, given our species'
current level of (lack of) ingenuity, that we should go straight to
scarcity and get it over with.

We might also stop importing and/or mass-producing warm clothing
materials to make do with what's locally grown (or already stockpiled,
which could be made to last for a generation or two). It'd be better
from a strictly evolutionary perspective to abandon clothes entirely,
but frostbite and hypothermia might make that effort ludicrous.

It's clear to me that we've only managed to increase the birthrate in
colder climates by defeating our bodies' natural adaptations with
technological and economic innovations. We're not supposed to have so
many people in this climate: even the Mound Builders were far fewer
around here than us white folk are.

Speaking of which, light-skinned people aren't made for living in say
southern Mississippi or Florida either: doing without air conditioning
would also eventually decrease the "Aryan" population in those regions,
whether by lowering the birth rate, increasing the death rate through
mosquito-borne diseases or inspiring migration northward. Obviously it's
easier and quicker for humans to keep warm by getting fat than it is to
cope with heat by becoming darker-skinned (as opposed to just seasonally
tanned): in less than one generation the "First World" has chubbed up,
while there are as many pale pink blondes as there ever were.

Perhaps in so-called temperate climates like Kentucky or nothern
Virginia we'll select for slight chubbiness and increased hairiness,
while those in Alberta would be hairless and obese.

In Kentucky it seems humans would benefit by being medium-sized and
medium-skinned folks who each Fall gained a little wait and got hairier,
the way squirrels and such do, to shed hair and pounds in the Spring.
Then our area's current sexual aesthetics and cultural biases wouldn't
have to change very much: we'd mate more in late Spring or early Summer
when we look better -- thinner and not so hairy -- and so the latter
months of pregnancy would fall in Winter when it's easier to tolerate.

Going straight to fossil-fuel scarcity, say by failing to correct the
current global economic troubles, would increase evolutionary pressure
and thus our species' longevity -- albeit at the cost of a population
crash here and there. If my hunches are correct the said population
crash would mainly affect "White" people, but since we're the big
villains in the current unfeasible situation that's just too damn bad.

For the good of humanity the economy should collapse. Do what you can to
immanentize the eschaton!


Shambatically,
TheDavid

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Governor

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Dec 31, 2009, 3:53:20 PM12/31/09
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Jonah Thomas <jeth...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]

> Humans are optimised for hot dry climates where there is enough
> drinking water. We are very very good at sweating.... Before you

> choose to makek fundamental changes in our physiology, wouldn't it be
> good to make sure that there is an ecological niche waiting for the
> changed people?

What physical changes would make living in central Kentucky easier, let
alone North Dakota?

medium-skinned folks who each Fall gained a little weight and got

hairier, the way squirrels and such do, to shed hair and pounds in the
Spring. Then our area's current sexual aesthetics and cultural biases
wouldn't have to change very much: we'd mate more in late Spring or

early Summer when we look "better" (thinner and not so hairy) and so the

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