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Senator Specter is now a Democrat !!!

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The Rock

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Apr 28, 2009, 5:16:04 PM4/28/09
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Another seat going to the Democrats. In changing his party, Senator Specter
had these words to say:

"Since my election in 1980, as part of the Reagan Big Tent, the Republican
Party
has moved far to the right. Last year, more than 200,000 Republicans in
Pennsylvania
changed their registration to become Democrats. I now find my political
philosophy
more in line with Democrats than Republicans."

And the extremists of the right in the Republican party still don't get it.
They're far off
the main stream and they still think they'll take control again soon. If
this trend continues
their party will be reduced to even smaller than Libertarian.


Jedi

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Apr 29, 2009, 6:45:02 AM4/29/09
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It is nothing but the duality of cheap polemic politics. There is much
more than meets the eye.

The Rock

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Apr 30, 2009, 12:33:07 PM4/30/09
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"Jedi" <transce...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Like what?

The Republican party of today keeps on the same politics that the American
voters
rejected in 2006 and 2008. Smaller government, at a time when the economy is
in the tank,
hands off private enterprise, we've seen the results of that in Wall Street
and the lending
institutions, oh, yes, tax break for the rich with the idea that it will
trickle down, on and on
with all the things that have been proven outdated because they never
worked. If they don't
change their philosophy, they're doomed.

Senator Specter is a moderate and the neocons that control the party won't
make room for
moderates, he was going to be challenged in the primary with a more
conservative extremist
candidate. And he said, he feels more at home with President Obama's agenda
(not in these exact words)
than he does with extremists of the Republican party.

I have a feeling that Senator Snow might be the next one to defect. If that
happens, the Republican
party will become a regional party that will never again win a majority in
the country, as long as they're
dominated by the far right. The demographic of the country has changed and
progressives are
getting bigger and more involved in politics.

Jedi

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May 1, 2009, 1:29:42 PM5/1/09
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On Apr 30, 6:33 am, "The Rock" <neverm...@nospam.com> wrote:
> "Jedi" <transcend_i...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> news:e17d3941-054c-4986...@y34g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Apr 28, 11:16 am, "The Rock" <neverm...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> Another seat going to the Democrats. In changing his party, Senator
> >> Specter
> >> had these words to say:
>
> >> "Since my election in 1980, as part of the Reagan Big Tent, the
> >> Republican
> >> Party
> >> has moved far to the right. Last year, more than 200,000 Republicans in
> >> Pennsylvania
> >> changed their registration to become Democrats. I now find my political
> >> philosophy
> >> more in line with Democrats than Republicans."
>
> >> And the extremists of the right in the Republican party still don't get
> >> it.
> >> They're far off
> >> the main stream and they still think they'll take control again soon. If
> >> this trend continues
> >> their party will be reduced to even smaller than Libertarian.
>
> > It is nothing but the duality of cheap polemic politics. There is much
> > more than meets the eye.
>
> Like what?

Democrats were willing to wreck the American economy and lose the
asymmetric war against Alqaeda to get elected in 2008. So far they
are on track.

The Rock

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May 1, 2009, 2:34:39 PM5/1/09
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"Jedi" <transce...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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Hahahahah, you do have a twisted mind. The economy was wrecked by the Bush
administration and neocons in Congress, remember the rubber stamp Congress?
Yes,
that Congress. What we're seeing now is the aftermath of their rule. Get off
that Fox TV,
it's screwing up your head.

Jedi

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May 9, 2009, 1:56:53 AM5/9/09
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Ah a far left 9/11 conspiracy nutcase and perhaps even an ACORN member.

The Rock

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May 9, 2009, 12:47:44 PM5/9/09
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"Jedi" <transce...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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Neither. A realistic American that calls it like he sees it.
And a progressive that wants his country to move forward, not taken back to
19 Century.
I do get amazed how some of the right can't see how their party screwed up
and continues
with same failed philosophy and they still back them up. <Party First> eh?
Amazing indeed!!!!!


Jedi

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May 9, 2009, 2:24:21 PM5/9/09
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Excuse me the record shows Democrats were ignorant of the collapse of
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac which leaves no doubt that they were part
the problem not the solution.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

The Rock

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May 9, 2009, 4:07:23 PM5/9/09
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"Jedi" <transce...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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Jedi, Democrats were not in control of government, Republicans were, both
Houses
of Congress and the Presidency. What screwed up everything was the
Republican
philosophy of hands off of businesses. The GOP removed most of the safeguard
the
Democrats had in place since the 30's and the little that was left Bush
administration
didn't enforce them.

Amazing it is!!! Were did you get that knowledge, Fox TV or Limbaugh?

Trying to put some of blame on Democrats they dob a film to fit their agenda
and you
go for it. Bush investigators were NOT investigating anything. Where did you
have your
head all those eight years?

Jedi

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May 10, 2009, 8:55:26 AM5/10/09
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More of your nonsense. That video of the 2004 congressional hearing
clearly reveals the congressional Democrat view that nothing was wrong
at Fannie and Freddie at the time while the Republicans were saying
otherwise. Cameras don't lie.

In 1994, the Clinton administration blew the dust off a twenty year
old law and began strong enforcement of the Community Redevelopment
Act. This act was passed during the Carter administration to encourage
greater home ownership rates among minorities. The newly revitalized
enforcement of the act was branded as “The National Homeownership
Strategy: Partners in the American Dream” as President Clinton worked
to expand that legislation’s reach in 1990s America. He linked
increasing home ownership to the challenge of expanding opportunity
for working families as he addressed the National Association of
Realtors in 1994 by stating “more Americans should own their own
homes, for reasons that are economic and tangible, and reasons that
are emotional and intangible, but go to the heart of what it means to
harbor, to nourish, to expand the American Dream.”
http://reclaimyourrepublic.org/2008/09/22/can-we-finally-place-the-blame-where-it-actually-lies/

In 1999, Fannie Mae came under pressure from the Clinton
administration to expand mortgage loans to low and moderate income
borrowers. At the same time, institutions in the primary mortgage
market pressed Fannie Mae to ease credit requirements on the mortgages
it was willing to purchase, enabling them to make loans to subprime
borrowers at interest rates higher than conventional loans.
Shareholders also pressured Fannie Mae to maintain its record profits.
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/30/business/fannie-mae-eases-credit-to-aid-mortgage-lending.html?pagewanted=print

Ignore the spin and media histrionics. Do the research. Eventually the
truth does come out as it always does. In this case, most if not all
of the Fannie Mae trainwreck can be blamed on the Clinton
Administration and the Democrats. OFHEO warned in 2006 Fannie was out
of control and lying on its balance sheets. The Bush Administration
tried to reform Fannie and Freddie in 2003 only to be stopped by
Congressional Democrats such as Barney Frank who said there was no
problem to fix. Senators Hagel and McCain tried to pass legislation
tightening the supervision of the agencies in 2005. Meanwhile, former
Clinton Administration officials-turned-Fannie Mae executives such as
Jamie Gorelick, Frank Raines and others walked out of Fannie Mae with
over $100 million in compensation after illegally manipulating
earnings statements and engaging in Enron-type fraud. While lining
their pockets, they and their Democrat allies were corrupting our
mortgage system as The New York Times reported in 1999:
http://kingfish1935.blogspot.com/2008/09/new-york-times-1999-clinton.html

So what started as a noble purpose in the beginning was allowed to be
misused in the end. Which party saw it coming and who didn't? Which
party tried to prevent it and who didn't? Who's hand got caught in the
cookie jar?

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