Human rights and freedom of religion the platform of civilized life

Jedi

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Jun 1, 2013, 3:10:34 PM6/1/13

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Those who live by the gun will die by the gun and those who live
defending knowledge and peace will inherit the earth.

People fighting each other throughout the world make it difficult at
first glance to see who is right and who is wrong. The genuine
military class always protects people's lives and property, regardless
of material differences in race, religion, philosophy, nationalism,
occupation etc.

"Violence can only be concealed by a lie, and the lie can only be
maintained by violence. Any man who has once proclaimed violence as
his method is inevitably forced to take the lie as his principle." -
Solzhenitsyn

plainolamerican

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Jun 3, 2013, 3:09:09 PM6/3/13

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cite source

People fighting each other throughout the world make it difficult at
first glance to see who is right and who is wrong. The genuine
military class always protects people's lives and property,

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when they're not destroying them.

regardless
of material differences in race,

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there's only one race.

religion,
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myth to ignore

"Violence can only be concealed by a lie, and the lie can only be
maintained by violence. Any man who has once proclaimed violence as
his method is inevitably forced to take the lie as his principle." -
Solzhenitsyn

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Alexander Solzhenitsyn, who first exposed the horrors of the Stalinist
gulag, is now attempting to tackle one of the most sensitive topics of
his writing career - the role of the Jews in the Bolshevik revolution
and Soviet purges.
In his latest book Solzhenitsyn, 84, deals with one of the last taboos
of the communist revolution: that Jews were as much perpetrators of
the repression as its victims. Two Hundred Years Together - a
reference to the 1772 partial annexation of Poland and Russia which
greatly increased the Russian Jewish population - contains three
chapters discussing the Jewish role in the revolutionary genocide and
secret police purges of Soviet Russia.

Jedi

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Jun 4, 2013, 7:26:13 AM6/4/13

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On Jun 3, 9:09 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 1, 2:10 pm, Jedi <transcend_i...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Those who live by the gun will die by the gun and those who live
> > defending knowledge and peace will inherit the earth.
>
> > People fighting each other throughout the world make it difficult at
> > first glance to see who is right and who is wrong. The genuine
> > military class always protects people's lives and property, regardless
> > of material differences in race, religion, philosophy, nationalism,
> > occupation etc.
>
> > "Violence can only be concealed by a lie, and the lie can only be
> > maintained by violence. Any man who has once proclaimed violence as
> > his method is inevitably forced to take the lie as his principle." -
> > Solzhenitsyn
>
> Those who live by the gun will die by the gun and those who live
> defending knowledge and peace will inherit the earth.
> --
> cite source

"for all who draw the sword will die by the sword. - Jesus, Matthew
26:52

“Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth." - Bible,
Matthew 5:5

Aviroce

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Jun 4, 2013, 10:56:17 PM6/4/13

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Your statements are non-sensical. Counterexamples are galore.
Concepts untested, ideas not researched. Just mumbo jumbo that seem
to sound good and wise where wisdom is ignorance.

Aviroce

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Jun 4, 2013, 10:59:17 PM6/4/13

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Are you saying these ancient and ignorant people by present standards
knew better. Who gives a damn about bibles, torahs, talmuds,.. These
people believed what they believed because of ignorance and you expect
me and other educators and scientists to accept what they said as the
ultimate truth?

> Matthew 5:5- Hide quoted text -
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Jedi

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Jun 6, 2013, 11:34:53 AM6/6/13

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On Jun 4, 4:56 pm, Aviroce <dudaras...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Your statements are non-sensical. Counterexamples are galore.
> Concepts untested, ideas not researched. Just mumbo jumbo that seem
> to sound good and wise where wisdom is ignorance.

Same to you

Jedi

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Jun 6, 2013, 11:51:26 AM6/6/13

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On Jun 4, 4:59 pm, Aviroce <dudaras...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you saying these ancient and ignorant people by present standards
> knew better. Who gives a damn about bibles, torahs, talmuds,.. These
> people believed what they believed because of ignorance and you expect
> me and other educators and scientists to accept what they said as the
> ultimate truth?

But it is you the ignorant one who thinks that truth has to be
"modern" to be valid and that the same truth does not affect all the
cultures of the world past, present, and future. Your knowledge is
transitory and defective. Furthermore look at all the ignorance in the
world today and your argument does not hold water.