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Subject: Re: Who Takes UFOs & E.T.s Seriously?//Only Every Police Station and Fire Department in America!!
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"The_Sage" <thees...@azrmci.net> wrote in message
news:3d48afba.3371496@news.rmci.net...
---SNIP---
> I always thought you wanted people to take you and your UFO issues
> seriously, but obviously you don't care. So go ahead and lie your
> arse off, but it only makes the spOOks look more honest and
> intelligent than you could ever hope to be.
>
> The Sage

I always thought you wanted people to take UFO issues not seriously,
but obviously for reaching that goal you exclude data or use an
'explainaway'.

An 'explainaway' is an unscientific attemped for
reassurance, where you don't research the cause and just
give a reasonable explanation for the effect.

"I offered my comments as a way to reach those people who
have difficulty reasoning due to the conditioning of
Hollywood. It is a way out for them; a way to show them that
there is another more rational way of seeing things."
The Sage on http://home.rmci.net/thesage/UFO.htm
(page 1, Why debunk UFOs?)

"There is an unexplainable phenomenon and it has a
reasonable explanation, therefore I am not interested in the
cause, just the effect."
The Sage in 'Denial is not skepticism', alt.alien.visitors
Message 167 in thread, 2001-MAY-03 13:18:43 PST

"Remember that cause-and-effect are the cornerstone of the
scientific method."
See The Sage's most excellent writing on
http://home.rmci.net/thesage/Pseudosci.htm
(What is the scientific method?)

======
Humanoid sightings: mass hysteria (A), fantasy prone (B)
or EM radiation (C)?

=A=====
"Mass hysteria is any hysteria TRIGGERED by mob mentality or
mass media. A delayed reaction to a mass media event still
means it is a mass hysteria, even if the person is alone at
the time of the experience."

"Not a single successful argument has ever been made against
the claim that the UFO/ET fad is just another example of a
mass delusion."

"1. You cannot hear things that don't exist, 2. You cannot
see things that don't exist, 3. You cannot smell things that
don't exist, 4. You cannot taste things that don't exist,
and 5. You cannot feel things that don't exist."

"So the claim that all these multitudes of people coming
forth to say they saw a little gray men wouldn't be doing it
if there weren't some truth behind the phenomenon, is
demonstratably false!"

The Sage in 'MASS HYSTERIAS' and 'HUMANIOD MONSTER DELUSION'
on http://home.rmci.net/thesage/UFO.htm
(Page 5, What is the alien abduction syndrome?)


=B=====
INCLUDE the abductee's HISTORY and you come to the fantasy
prone personality (Wilson and Barber in Imagery, Current
Theory, Research an Application, 1983). A bibliographic
research (Newman and Baumeister in Psychological Inquiry 7,
1996) showed that 87% of the abductees suffer from this
personalitydisorder.


=C=====
INCLUDE ALSO the abductee's ENVIRONMENT and you come to the
electromagnetic pollution approach - EMPA (Budden, Electric
UFO's, 1999), where the TRIGGER is electromagnetic
radiation.

The Sage seem to ignore the obvious blatant fact that there
is legitimate physical evidence presently in existence, that
scientifically and rationally verifies the existence of an
EM presence; A verifiable CAUSE for hearing, seeing,
smelling, tasting and feeling things that don't exist,
delusions triggered by electromagnetic (EM) radiation.

======
Geosound "is produced in the earth's strata. It is
electrical activity underground - the equivalent of a
thunderstorm in the atmosphere. Geosound can be an
electronic-sounding squeal, or an intense buzzing like a
swarm of bees. Geosound is often accompanied by sulphurous
or 'electrical' smells [...]" [Chapter 6, Page 177]

The smells "can be created by, predictably, electrical
discharges in the air. Such discharges change the energy
states of various atoms, and numerous chemical compounds can
be formed. [...] nitrogen, making up 70 per cent of the air,
changes to a metastable state. This energized, or excited,
nitrogen is called 'activated' because it readily combines
with other atoms, whereas ordinary nitrogen does not: for
example, it can combine with hydrogen to form ammonia, and
with oxygen to form nitric oxide. It also reacts with other
gases in the air to form nitrobenzen, which is an oily
substance with a strong smell like bitter almonds. Ozone is
also smelt around electrical machinery to some extent and it
is commonly reported in association with CE
[Close-Encounter] experiences.
These processes could account for the smell alone, but it
could also have been produced as a hallucination by field
stimulation of the brain." [Chapter 3, Page 79]

Psychic Close Encounters
Albert Budden
Blandford, 1999
ISBN 0-7137-2799-3

======
All the examples outdate what Columbus saw in 1492 and the 1968 Condon
Report: Is it an indication that there is progress been made in the
research of the Alien Abduction Phenomenon?

======
This is a combination of my 2002-07-28 'For The Sage: Mass Hysteria?'
and
2002-07-31 'Abduction: mass hysteria, fantasy prone or EM radiation?'
posts.

--
Bart Meinen

The Study of Anthropoid Life forms (SAL)
http://home.hetnet.nl/~wc/index2.html
For NON-FRAMERS:
http://home.hetnet.nl/~wc/MENU-UK.htm
Click on "Electro Magnetism"