GREY ALIENS BITE THE DUST
E. L.
aliens. I include the opening paragraph because it is also a good
retort against the Roswell myth. The complete article is found at the
URL below.
el
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GREY ALIENS BITE THE DUST
by Alison Davidson
From Borderlands 1993-vol 49, No.2
A fiction no matter how bizarre, if repeated often enough becomes
accepted as fact especially if it's reinforced by the voice of some
Authority or other. This goes on all the time, especially in the media
and their propaganda bulletins passed as network news, to take an
obvious example. But the frightening thing is that once a fabricated
belief is established in the mass mind, anyone who tries to expose the
original fiction is almost certain to be set up as a liar, a lunatic, or
worse...
Terry Groff
Back in the 20's people who reported the existence of Gorillas were
ridiculed.
A "fact", no matter how bizarre, if ridiculed often enough, can become
unacceptable, especially if it's degraded by the voice of some authority or
other (The world is flat. The Earth is the center of the universe. Man can
never fly. If you travel faster than 30 miles an hour your heart will stop.
Gorillas don't exist.)
PLONK
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Groff" <u...@terrygroff.com> wrote:
> A fiction no matter how bizarre, if repeated often enough becomes
> accepted as fact especially if it's reinforced by the voice of some
> Authority or other.
Therein lies the power of the Democratic Party.
E. L.
>Re: GREY ALIENS BITE THE DUST
>Group: alt.alien.visitors
>Date: Sat, Mar 29, 2003, 6:10am
>(EST+5) From: u...@terrygroff.com
>(Terry Groff)
>Back in the 20's people who reported the
>existence of Gorillas were ridiculed.
el: "But the gorilla's reality was easily proved."
>A "fact", no matter how bizarre, if
>ridiculed often enough, can become
>unacceptable, especially if it's degraded
>by the voice of some authority or other
el: "A fact is a fact, demonstrable with evidence. Myths are not
facts."
>(The world is flat. The Earth is the center
>of the universe. Man can never fly. If you
>travel faster than 30 miles an hour your
>heart will stop. Gorillas don't exist.)
el: "Your brain is still in the infant stage."
PLONK
el: "Your level of speech."
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"E. L." <nyce...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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following is an introduction to a good read about the fallacy of aliens.
I include the opening paragraph because it is also a good retort against
the Roswell myth. The complete article is found at the URL below.
el
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joe walker
> Back in the 20's people who reported the existence of Gorillas were
> ridiculed.
Of course someone was ultimately able to display an actual gorilla. So
far I haven't seen a lot of "greys" down at the natural history
museum.
>
> A "fact", no matter how bizarre, if ridiculed often enough, can become
> unacceptable, especially if it's degraded by the voice of some authority or
> other (The world is flat. The Earth is the center of the universe. Man can
> never fly. If you travel faster than 30 miles an hour your heart will stop.
> Gorillas don't exist.)
Again actual proofs countering these ideas were presented. So far no
one has offered any incontrovertible evidence of aliens grey or
otherwise.
Joe
Blue Resonant Human, Ph.D.
[...]
> GREY ALIENS BITE THE DUST
> by Alison Davidson
> From Borderlands 1993-vol 49, No.2
>
> A fiction no matter how bizarre, if repeated often enough becomes
> accepted as fact especially if it's reinforced by the voice of some
> Authority or other. This goes on all the time, especially in the media
> and their propaganda bulletins passed as network news, to take an
> obvious example. But the frightening thing is that once a fabricated
> belief is established in the mass mind, anyone who tries to expose the
> original fiction is almost certain to be set up as a liar, a lunatic, or
> worse...
>
> http://www.borderlands.com/archives/arch/alienz.html
"In 1947, the editor of Amazing Stories watched in astonishment as the
things he had been fabricating for years in his magazine suddenly came
true!... Once the belief system had been set up it became
self-perpetuating. The people beleaguered by mysterious rays were
joined by the wishful thinkers who hoped that living, compassionate
beings existed out there beyond the stars. They didn't need any real
evidence. The belief itself was enough to sustain them. I thought it
was the sickest crap I'd run into."
-Howard Browne, Palmer's Associate Editor
[re: the Shaver Mystery Palmer was then pushing]
Excerpt from:
The Man Who Invented Flying Saucers by John Keel
http://www.noveltynet.org/content/paranormal/www.brotherblue.org/brethren/palmer.htm
Another fine cross-cultural memetic seeding experiment courtesy of:
-Blue Resonant Human, Ph.D.
Interdimensional Intelligence Analyst
Sacerdotal Knights of National Security
USENET Meme Acquisition and Propagation Directorate
http://www.noveltynet.org/content/paranormal/www.brotherblue.org/
Terry Groff
"joe walker" <joe.w...@excite.com> wrote in message
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> "Terry Groff" <u...@terrygroff.com> wrote in message
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> > Back in the 20's people who reported the existence of Gorillas were
> > ridiculed.
>
> Of course someone was ultimately able to display an actual gorilla. So
> far I haven't seen a lot of "greys" down at the natural history
> museum.
God forbid you ever do. :-)
Sir Gilligan Horry
wrote:
>
> Back in the 20's people who reported the existence of Gorillas were
>ridiculed.
>
> A "fact", no matter how bizarre, if ridiculed often enough, can become
>unacceptable, especially if it's degraded by the voice of some authority or
>other (The world is flat. The Earth is the center of the universe. Man can
>never fly. If you travel faster than 30 miles an hour your heart will stop.
>Gorillas don't exist.)
Nice post, Terry.
Thanks.
George Black
"joe walker" <joe.w...@excite.com> wrote in message
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: "Terry Groff" <u...@terrygroff.com> wrote in message
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: > Back in the 20's people who reported the existence of Gorillas
were
: > ridiculed.
:
: Of course someone was ultimately able to display an actual gorilla.
So
: far I haven't seen a lot of "greys" down at the natural history
: museum.
:
: >
: > A "fact", no matter how bizarre, if ridiculed often enough,
can become
: > unacceptable, especially if it's degraded by the voice of some
authority or
: > other (The world is flat. The Earth is the center of the universe.
Man can
: > never fly. If you travel faster than 30 miles an hour your heart
will stop.
: > Gorillas don't exist.)
:
: Again actual proofs countering these ideas were presented. So far no
: one has offered any incontrovertible evidence of aliens grey or
: otherwise.
:
The reason that you don't see greys is that they taste good on the
barbie and as a result they've become extinct... :-))
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Sir Gilligan Horry
wrote:
Oh, you didn't save any for the "people not in the know" ?
(ah, let them eat cake and twinkies)
Anyway, that leaves 56 other extraterrestrial species.
(and invisible Foo Fighters)
;-)
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>More ways to contact me: http://wwp.icq.com/6963409
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>
How's the weather in New Zealand.
Raining cats and dogs and aliens yet ?
:)
Terry Groff
> "joe walker" <joe.w...@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:af9239b9.03032...@posting.google.com...
> : "Terry Groff" <u...@terrygroff.com> wrote in message
> :
> : >
> : > A "fact", no matter how bizarre, if ridiculed often enough,
> can become
> : > unacceptable, especially if it's degraded by the voice of some
> authority or
> : > other (The world is flat. The Earth is the center of the universe.
> Man can
> : > never fly. If you travel faster than 30 miles an hour your heart
> will stop.
> : > Gorillas don't exist.)
> :
> : Again actual proofs countering these ideas were presented. So far no
> : one has offered any incontrovertible evidence of aliens grey or
> : otherwise.
Even so, it took a very long time for the powers-that-be to accept the
proofs countering these ideas. "So far" are the operative words here.
I do agree with your statement in principle. But that does not mean we
should give up the search. I have never seen anything that proves it to me.
But neither has anyone shown me anything to disprove it.
I'm more intrigued by Archeo-ufology anyway. Why would a medieval
artist paint a ship shining a light on a city street. Why would a cave
artist paint the face of a "gray" on a wall. Chalking it up to imagination
just doesn't cut it with me.
Terry
Sir Gilligan Horry
wrote:
>
more intrigued by Archeo-ufology ?
These look pretty intriguing too....
http://darkstar-sifi.co.uk/ufo_kits.htm
George Black
"Sir Gilligan Horry" <G...@ga7rm5er.com> wrote in message
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: On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 12:35:15 +1200, "George Black"
Don't worry we're working on them
Tomato sauce gets 'em really tasty
: How's the weather in New Zealand.
: Raining cats and dogs and aliens yet ?
Nah. Just rain with intermittent showers when it's not raining..
there is sunshine but only on days when its not raining..
The Queen keeps an eye on our weather
She doesn't like anything reigning while she is..
Sir Gilligan Horry
wrote:
Quote: "You are what you eat"
;-)
>: How's the weather in New Zealand.
>: Raining cats and dogs and aliens yet ?
>
>Nah. Just rain with intermittent showers when it's not raining..
>there is sunshine but only on days when its not raining..
>The Queen keeps an eye on our weather
>She doesn't like anything reigning while she is..
I highly respect the Queen.
I wonder if she is sitting in front of the TV shouting...
"come on, bomb the bastards !!!".
LOL
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Disclaimer:
Anyway, seriously...
God Bless America
and other good democratic countries !!
Matt Giwer
In an essay near the end of his life Phil Dick recounted having
invented the drug flash back as a plot device in his novel The Three
Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch. He noted it became fashionable to report a
couple years later.
--
2003 March 07: US admits two al Qaeda suspects murdered by torture.
That is much too Jewish for my tastes.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 2544
E. L.
Re: GREY ALIENS BITE THE DUST
Group: alt.alien.visitors
Date: Sun, Mar 30, 2003, 7:32am (EST+5) From: jul...@tampabay.rr.com
(Matt Giwer)
<snip>
>In an essay near the end of his life Phil
>Dick recounted having invented the drug
>flash back as a plot device in his novel
>The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch.
>He noted it became fashionable to report
>a couple years later.
el: In my tripping days ('60s) I wanted this to be true so that I could
trip for free. But I never had a flash back and neither did anyone I
knew doing acid, mesc., whatever, therefore, thought it was bunk. Every
time someone brought it up I would say, "Bullshit!"
E. L.
Re: GREY ALIENS BITE THE DUST
u...@terrygroff.com (Terry Groff)
<snip>
Even so, it took a very long time
for the powers-that-be to accept the proofs countering these ideas. "So
far" are the operative words here.
el: "That's not the point. The point is that gorillas were part of our
reality. Aliens are not, they're a human construct."
I do agree with your statement in
principle. But that does not mean we should give up the search. I have
never seen anything that proves it to me. But neither has anyone shown
me anything to disprove it.
el: "This is the ol' dumb reply of demanding that a negative can be
proved."
I'm more intrigued by Archeo-ufology
anyway. Why would a medieval artist paint a ship shining a light on a
city street.
el: "You don't know what the artist meant by it and you are interpreting
according to your mental level."
Why would a cave artist paint the face of a "gray" on a wall.
el: "You can't prove that it was a caveman. You can't prove it's age.
You are interpreting what someone had on THEIR mind, even if it was done
by a caveman."
Chalking it up to imagination just doesn't cut it with me.
Terry
el: "That seems to be your problem, Terry. Imagination sometimes is the
ONLY answer. Unless you were there you have no idea what was going on
in ancient peoples' minds. I would bet you that most old paintings that
seem to show UFOs, etc., were done with religion in mind."
Blue Resonant Human, Ph.D.
[George Hunt Williamson -- 1950's era carnival barker for Adamski's
Venusian UFO Space Brothers was not only a seminal UFOlogist but also
an mysterious occultist and maverick archaeologist, after who the
legendary "Indiana Jones" was eventually patterned. -B:.B:.]
Excerpts:
=========
"It would however, be a capital error to classify him solely as a UFO
researcher. He was above all an occultist whose activities helped to
usher in a new magical aeon -- the aeon of the Flying Saucer.
[...]
"There can be no doubt that, by accident or design, he [Williamson]
and his various collaborators played an enormous part in shaping New
Age thought in all its manifestations. Together they constituted the
single most important occult group of the post-war era. Their
influence is made all the more remarkable by the fact that it has
seldom been acknowledged, or even perceived, by other researchers in
the field.
[...]
"Pelley and Adamski ...Hunrath and Laughead ...John Mc Coy and the
Stanford brothers...It was from the tangled lives of these men that
the contemporary UFO mythos first grew and took shape."
From:
::: The Birth of the Modern UFO Mythos :::
George Hunt Williamson & the Genesis of the Contactees
http://www.noveltynet.org/content/paranormal/www.brotherblue.org/libers/williams.htm
- see also -
A Message From Our Space Brothers Via Short Wave Radio
[Lecture given by: Dr. George Hunt Williamson, Monday, June 21,1954,
Detroit, Michigan]
http://www.noveltynet.org/content/paranormal/www.brotherblue.org/libers/spacebro.htm
Blue Resonant Human, Ph.D.
> >Re: GREY ALIENS BITE THE DUST
> >Group: alt.alien.visitors
> >Date: Sat, Mar 29, 2003, 6:10am
> >(EST+5) From: u...@terrygroff.com
> >(Terry Groff)
>
> >Back in the 20's people who reported the
> >existence of Gorillas were ridiculed.
>
> el: "But the gorilla's reality was easily proved."
And just as easily monkeyed with:
Random Ugandan Acts of Unkindness
WHO'S THE BIG APE CLOWNING AROUND WITH GORILLAS?
By Geoff Olson
In the latest installment of Robert Anton Wilson's Cosmic Trigger
series, the author devotes a chapter to a very bizarre news item.
According to the Coventry Evening Telegraph, a hunter in Uganda is
being sought by local authorities for illegally hunting gorillas. He
shoots them with a tranquilizer gun and dresses them in clown suits.
That's right, clown suits. According to the report, six gorillas have
been found in clowned condition in the wild, wandering around like
primitive Pagliaccis.
You may recall Sniffy the Rat, and the outrage that followed "artist"
Rick Gibson's threat to drop a brick on the rodent. Here's a new twist
on the Sniffy routine -- assuming we can ascribe any aesthetic spirit
to these random Ugandan acts of unkindness, as Wilson does.
"I wonder a lot about this bizarre Ugandan," writes the author. "Once
having found his metier, will he repeat himself endlessly (the usual
fate of the inferior artist) -- or will he begin experimenting more
broadly? Can we look forward to reports of wildebeests in polka-dot
pajamas, chimpanzees in tuxedos, zonked zebras waking in the garb of a
Gay Leather Bar?"
Dada, the great granddaddy of today's "performance art", was a post-WW
I program of slapstick assaults on bourgeois sensibilities. An enclave
of cafe philosophers with a joy buzzer sensibility, the Dadaists
wanted to subvert rationality for the sheer hell of it. Is the Ugandan
a jungle Dadaist?
Think of it: an unknown African on a mission to resurrect a moribund
European art movement! The mystery marksman lives up to Dadaism's
spirit, even if his efforts sound more like a gorilla joke by Steven
Wright than a guerrilla routine from Tristan Tzara. In any case, it
can't be much fun to be an ape on the receiving end of an inexplicable
intent. Writes Wilson: " I bet they hate it -- feel acute terror and
rage -- when they wake up covered in something constraining which they
cannot possibly understand."
The story has a screwball poignancy about it, and not just for it's
animal pathos. Human behaviour, with its catalogue of whimsies and
obsessive thoughts -- punctuated by perversions of the most darkly
Gothic kind -- is often mysterious. The distorting lens of cultural
differences makes it even harder to understand. What would
extraterrestrial beings, surveying a Ugandan game preserve dotted with
apes in clown costumes, make of the human psyche?
It's a great story, this news item of primates in circus couture, but
It's provenance is another matter. Wilson wondered whether the
Coventry Evening Telegraph employed "a drunken and unreliable
part-timer covering animal news from Africa..." Yet the author also
heard a later radio report claiming the Ugandan clowning continues:
the gorillas cannot remove the suits unaided, and the wardens must
"retranquilize and unclown them." Says the chief warden: "We are
dealing with a very sick mind."
However, a certain Loren Skaggs, posting to the Internet news group
alt.follklore.urban, says he contacted the gorilla conservation office
in Rwanda (which monitors ape populations throughout Africa, including
Uganda). A spokesperson there assured him that there has been no such
"hunter," and no occurrences of this nature.
"She hastened to point out that such an act would be highly unlikely,
since gorilla poaching is a very serious crime, and that anyone who
would take the risk of actually shooting a gorilla in that
impoverished part of the world would surely not waste it on a lame
practical joke." Skaggs was told that gorilla parts are extremely
valuable on the black market; there's no way a poacher would leave a
gorilla to recover consciousness, clown suit or no.
Perhaps then Bozo the Ape belongs in the suspect company of the
phantom hitchhiker and the pet in the microwave oven. Though I contend
that if the story's not true, it's definitely bizarre enough that it
should be.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, "We are dealing with a very sick mynde."
-Blue Resonant Human, Ph.D.
Interdimensional Intelligence Analyst
Sacerdotal Knights of National Security
USENET Meme Acquisition and Propagation Directorate
E Pluribus Caeruleus -- "Out of many, THAT WHICH IS BLUE"
http://www.noveltynet.org/content/paranormal/www.brotherblue.org/
Dr H
What power?
Terry Groff
say. Both quotes below were made by two different people, neither of which
is me. (See original thread.)
Terry Groff
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Dr H
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Terry Groff wrote:
}Please use proper quote references. You have me quoting something I didn't
}say. Both quotes below were made by two different people, neither of which
}is me. (See original thread.)
}
}Terry Groff
Appologies for any misunderstanding. I responded to the post as
it appeared on my server.
Dr H