URHANIBAI wrote:
>
> Okay... just what the hell is all this trivial bullshit about anyway?!
> _______________________________
> ACC TO US WEB/CKS: "STAY AWAY!"
>
> : ACC TO US WEB/CKS: "STAY AWAY!" Computer company bans US WEB
> : personnel from its business.
>
> : July 25, 1999 (For Immediate Distribution)
> : C R A N F O R D, N J.
> : Related website:
http://accpc.com>
> : In a brief statement today, Corporate Security at American Computer Company
> : issued a public demand that US WEB / CKS and all of its employees, agents,
> : representatives, heirs and assigns, and contractors, subsidiaries, and
> : affiliates to stay away from its computers systems, Forums and Web
> : Bulletin Boards and to cease and desist all activities in connection with
> : American Computer Company.
>
> : The brief statement, which also applies to any seminar participants, forum
> : leaders, seminar directors, production teams, and related volunteers
> : associated with US WEB / CKS and any of its FRANCHISEES, along with their
> : employees, agents, representatives, heirs and assigns, contractors,
> : subsidiaries, and affiliates, indicated that a Court Order will be sought
> : within the next two weeks directing US WEB / CKS to cease and desist, and
> : that US WEB / CKS will be given a chance to answer specifics at that time.
>
> : A spokesperson for American Computer declined further comment. All inquiries
> : may be addressed to the company's counsel through its headquarters, in
> : writing only.
>
> : American Computer Company is located at: ACC 6 Commerce Drive Cranford, NJ
> : 07016
909-272-3330>
> : ==============================
>
> : Sandy
>
> DOES
ISUR.COM recruit people who seek to find ANY POSSIBLE MEANS
> to DEBUNK & ATTACK figures and other people within the UFO Community?
> Or is its purpose even more sinister?
>
> Posted By: [Avatar]
> Date: Monday, 26 July 1999, at 8:55 p.m.
>
>
ISUR.COM has fallen under scrutiny here in the last week, because it has
> been linked to David Norris, its founder, who is also with USWEB/CKS,
> Joe Firmage's "former" company, which Joe continues on leveraging in his
> alleged "pursuit" of "the truth" about aliens.
>
> It has been suggested that
ISUR.COM is just a recruitment front for people
> aligned in harrassing and expressing hatred towards figures and subjects in
> the UFO Community. It's recently been suggested that in his financial support,
> for six months, of Robert AM Stephens, who was sued by Art Bell, the highly
> successful and popular nite time Radio Talk Show Host, and his sharing of
> opinions that demeaned Bell's show, and and what appeared to be a tendancy
> to support David Oates and Stephens in various forays into mindless shark
> attacks on Art Bell, and also in that he supported another character
> assassination, an attack on Richard Hoagland which lasted for several months,
> that Joe Firmage shares in this "mission" with David Norris and
ISUR.COM.
>
> It appears to me that
ISUR.COM 'investigators' and their 'leadership', share an
> common unfettered compulsion: a need to engage in web and publicity onslought
> towards those engaging in the otherwise innocent pursuit of a hobby or the
> serious profession of studying the ins and outs of the UFO-logy medium, despite
> the fact that same is protected under the 1st Ammendment of the Constitution,
> and the libelous defamation and anonymous slander and harmful punition of
> UFO-logists IS NOT and is probably a crime. In most cases, the practitioners
> seem to also interlace some form of fundamentalist perspective of religion,
> intermingled with their free form hate-speech.
>
> Among those who've either participated in the chats on ISUR or are actual
> investigators, ACC has experienced attacks from about 14 individuals related
> thereto, in fact four or five of the participants, along with two or three
> wanderflugels (associated parties) continue to harass ACC on the Internet
> to this very day, using haven spams ranging from "
Anal...@aol.com" to
> Zetatalk.com, to Riskers.org (recently closed and repointed), to UFOMIND.com
> to other pages, all engaging in free form lying and uncontrolled defamaiton
> and libel.
>
> For several years, ISUR maintained chat rooms (which we believe have gone under
> covers behind a locked 'sub website' that you must be an "Isur" appointed and
> certified "investigator" to participate in.) in which topics coincident to these
> attacks became orgiastic frenzies of hate mongering, death threats and just about
> every other form of harassment.
>
> In the case of ISUR, the "devil" from christianity, and the "angel" from
> christianity, appear to surface: the INT (innerterrestrials -demons or angels
> from God) are suggested to actually be behind all the crop circles, sightings,
> abductions and cattle mutilations.
> This tends to reflect the actual agenda of
ISSO.ORG, if you recall Firmage on
> Television talking about how Angels are the "actual ancient aliens", this
> strange, religious orientation, seems to fundament itself INTO this particular
> "strangelet of mind" group, that also seems to span Firmage and his sites and
>
ISUR.ORG. It is a truly strange group mind view.
>
>
ISUR.COM represents a tantalizing glimpse at the CULT methods of
> "carrot dangling" and "selective recruitment" which appears to suggest
> that
ISUR.COM carefully screens all applicants to make CERTAIN that
> they are politically aligned with
ISUR.COM and will subordinate them to
> its whims, almost like a supremecist cult.
ISUR.COM claims to maintain
> a worldwide network of people who it seems to suggest are "the elite"
> of UFO Investigation.
>
> The most telling RECRUITMENT PAGE from
ISUR.COM, reproduced here
> for discussion purposes only, may be EXAMINED by clicking the below link:
>
> ISUR INVESTIGATOR "RECRUITMENT" Page:
>
http://byamerican.com/isur/isur_investigator_info.html> =========================================================
>
> Fir Mage on Jeff Rense's "Sightings"
>
> Date: Tuesday, 27 July 1999, at 2:05 a.m.
>
> In Response To: Re: DOES
ISUR.COM recruit people who DEBUNK &
> ATTACK people within the UFO Community? Or more sinister? (Ben)
>
> Josepi Pi Fir Mage's recently mass-emailed epistle, quoted in
> its entirety:
>
> "ISSO Update
>
> "Hello all,
>
> "It gives me great pleasure to announce that on July 28, 1999,
> the International Space Sciences Organization will officially be
> launched. I'll be giving the launch presentation through a national
> radio broadcast from 8 pm to 10 pm Pacific, as a guest of Jeff
> Rense's Sightings program. Please plan on visiting the ISSO web
> site at
www.ISSO.org on that date for further details. Station
> listings by city will be provided, and the transmission will also
> be available on Broadcast.com.
>
> "Also, I'd like to bring your attention to two outstanding books
> recently published.
>
> "The first is The Marriage of Sense and Soul, by Ken Wilber.
>
> "Ken is one of the world's most perceptive and lucid philosophers,
> and his writings are sure to be remembered for decades, perhaps
> centuries, to come.
>
> "In Sense and Soul, Wilber takes the reader through an excellent
> philosophical discussion of the ontological paradigms of science
> and religion, and reaches for the conclusion which represents one
> of the fundamental assertions of my own writings: that science and
> various traditions of spirituality, however imperfectly
> institutionalized over time, represent essential and complementary
> aspects of being.
>
> "As readers of my writings know, I believe that science measures and
> spirit experiences the same ontological unity. Wilber describes more
> completely than I have thus far a very similar worldview.
>
> "The second title I'd recommend you pick up is Future War: Non-Lethal
> Weapons in Twenty-First-Century Warfare, by John Alexander.
>
> "The correlation between my writings and Alexander's rests in the
> idea that the realization of the sweeping visions that are now
> becoming plausible for 21st Century society require that we pursue
> real, tangible steps to end the endemic human propensity for use of
> force in conflict resolution. If mankind is to evolve on a Cosmic
> stage and interact with lifeforms advanced perhaps millions or
> billions of years beyond homo sapiens, we must change our persistent
> pattern of aggressive behavior. Until there is a fundamental shift in
> consciousness, no amount of wishing is going to stop conflicts.
>
> "No longer a voice in the wilderness, Alexander's work has received
> the endorsement of many senior military officials. Popular authors,
> such as Tom Clancy and Michael Crichton have inculcated Alexander's
> concepts in their books, thus influencing public opinion. Future War
> contains the first foreword that Tom Clancy has written. Drafted in
> 1997, Future War prophetically described the events at Columbine High
> with uncanny accuracy. Other events are coming to pass. To know our
> intermediate future I recommend you read this authoritative work.
>
> "Having had the opportunity to visit with senior officials from every
> branch of our military, I can state with the highest degree of confidence
> that the use of military force characterized by 20th Century conflicts
> cannot be presumed to be effective in dealing with the fundamental threats
> of the future. As technology improves the individual's ability to project
> mass lethal force through chemical, biological, and even nuclear means,
> the strategic landscape which underlies military charters fundamentally
> changes. The focus for the investment of our resources sharpens where it
> has always been directed, but now with far greater intensity: individual
> ethics and education worldwide -- things no machine of war can ever
> ultimately deliver.
>
> "Of course, it's easier for human beings to live peacefully with each
> other when their aspirations are given the freedom to soar beyond conflict
> and materialism, as the 30th anniversary of the greatest achievement in
> human history should remind us.
>
> "With that kind of vision as the high water mark to guide us,
> we're hard at work...
>
> "Best regards,
>
> "Joe Firmage
> __________________________________________
>
> "Chairman, Int'l Space Sciences Organization"
> __________________________________________
>
> -E N D-
>
> Everyone, please extinguish all neg-memes, reboot your brains,
> and return your minds to their original upright positions.
> Thank you for breathing Earth Atmosphere Oxygen Air Lines.
>
> Jeff Rense's "Sightings":
>
http://www.sightings.com/What goes on at a rendering plant?
Rendering plants act as an animal disposal unit for dead
livestock. Instead of burning and disposing of dead
animals, they are converted to animal feeds. I visited the
Avon plant in 1993 and witnessed this process, where
nothing is wasted.
Area farmers and ranchers are invited to drop off any
dead farm animal. The animals are crushed up in large
mulchers and poured into enormous high pressure vats
where they are cooked into multi-animal stew. The stew
is further processed until it is packaged and sold to area
farmers as livestock feed.
I've witnessed pigs, goats, cows and horses brought to
rendering plants. The animals were in various conditions.
Some had been dead for over 24 hours, yet were still
rendered into livestock feed. None of these animals are
checked for disease or illness before they enter the food
chain. Shockingly, many cows that been found
"mutilated", ( missing various glands, tissue and organs)
were brought to these rendering factories and processed
into food for their still living relatives. I was shocked, but
unlike Great Britain which has had protections against
such practices since 1989, there are no such guidelines
here in the United States.
From: Dead Cows I've Known
By Ted Oliphant III.
Copyright 1997, all rights reserved
http://www.isur.com/articles/deadcow1.html