Re: Backed against the wall Naysayer’s resort to the usual tactic of changing the subject when their UFO argument is lost…...
Hägar
"vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Having nothing to challenge the credibility of the Minot Air Force
Base B-52 crews documented account of it’s encounter with a HUGE CRAFT
as shown on the Peter Jennings UFO special, Naysayers resort to the
only method it knows to silence the truth. CHANGE THE SUBJECT.
For the discerning mind, here is part of the Jennings Special. The
B-52 incident is 15 minutes in but the whole clip is worth looking at
particularly the lame conclusions by the Skeptics. Make up your own
mind. I rest my case.
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=180422
RT
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You should have put this one to rest a long, long time ago, Crappo.
I looked at the entire clip again and nothing has changed. There may be
thousands of witnesses, but not even ONE shred of physical evidence
exists. Believers see images of the Virgin Mary on the walls of buildings
and on other surfaces, they see statues of religious icons shed tears of
blood, they see the face of Jebus on the Shroud of Turin ... unfortunately
none of that BS is proof the a God exists.
You guys are hung up on fuzzy images and witness reports that are all too
good to be true ... but if there really were Aliens, by now they would have
left behind some sort of evidence that could be analyzed and or reverse
engineered. Some of you Loons even insist that such evidence exists,
but just like your visual flights of fancy, you have nothing to back up
those
lofty claims. You, collectively, are not a well group of people, as
evidenced by the Heaven's Gate bunch.
vtcapo
B-52 flight crew- Radar confirmation and visual sighting. (An actual
visual fly around).
Minot Air Force Base- Ground radar confirmation as well as weather
radar and 16 eye-witnesses on the ground.
Hagar counters with the Shroud of Turin, the Virgin Mary and Heaven's
Gate.
B-52 crew 1 Naysayer’s 0
RT
Hägar
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It is your story, after all, and you can tell it any way you like, pothead.
richard travisano
The fact is it's not my story. It's the Minot Air Force Base and the
B-52 crews story or haven't you noticed.
RT
PS Hagar counters with pothead. B-52 crew 2 Naysayers 0
PPS Not getting much help on this one are you Hag?
Hägar
"richard travisano" <gey...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Ok ... one more time so that perhaps even a doofus like you might
understand it:
I subscribed to SETI in 99 and am among the top 10% of contributors
of time to the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. SETI has a number
of requirements to validate qualifying signals, and one of the
qualifications
is repeatability. There is a "Minot" incident, which was dubbed as the
"WOW" signal, it lasted about 7 to 8 minutes 100% artificial by the
standards of measure of the day, but it could not be repeated, hence it
faded into oblivion, where your precious Minot incident also belongs. I
know it is hard to burst your drug induced fantasy bubble of little green
men prowling the Earth in their magic spaceships, teasing crews of B-52
pilots, but that's all it is ... a fantasy.
Show us a muffler or a Spaceship hubcap, a service manual in a strange
alphabet (in your case the English one is strange), or anything physical
that would beyond a shadow of doubt verify the validity of your claim ...
alas, like all good brainwashed adherents, it has became a religion with
you morons. In conclusion, either present hard physical evidence, or
stop wasting Internet bandwidth, you dippo.
The Patriot
RT
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Shut up and drink your Kool-Aid, stupid.
HVAC
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>
> B-52 flight crew- Radar confirmation and visual sighting. (An actual
> visual fly around).
> Minot Air Force Base- Ground radar confirmation as well as weather
> radar and 16 eye-witnesses on the ground.
Airborne temperature inversions can cause visual anomalies
that will show up on radar.
Problem solved.
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Notroll2O12
"HVAC" wrote in message news:ir837q$27r$1...@hvac.motzarella.org...
On 5/20/2011 1:32 PM, vtcapo wrote:
>
>
> B-52 flight crew- Radar confirmation and visual sighting. (An actual
> visual fly around).
> Minot Air Force Base- Ground radar confirmation as well as weather
> radar and 16 eye-witnesses on the ground.
Airborne temperature inversions can cause visual anomalies
that will show up on radar.
Problem solved.
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Or it could be a Hagar fart. They've been know to show up on radar as they
rise thousands of feet and are then swept westward by the prevailing winds
(no pun intended).
vtcapo
Patriot- Shut up and drink your Kool-Aid, stupid.
B-52 crew- 3 Naysayer's- 0
vtcapo
> "HVAC" wrote in messagenews:ir837q$27r$1...@hvac.motzarella.org...
That is certainly plausible? Can you confirm if Hag was in the area on
specified date.
B-52 crew -3 Notroll- awaiting further confirmation
RT
vtcapo
Hagar, HVAC,
The fact that they ARE repeatable incidents doesn’t register. The
incidents have been repeated over 200 times near nuclear sites for
years starting with the 1st incident at Roswell. Remember the bomber
group that dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was located near
Roswell. I guess you and other Naysayer’s are having problems because
WE cannot repeat the incident? I agree. We cannot repeat the
incident. ET is at will.
http://www.ufocasebook.com/minotafb.html
HVAC says…
Airborne temperature inversions can cause visual anomalies
That will show up on radar.
Problem solved.
Not even a good try. Show me one incident where a temperature
inversion baffled a highly trained Tower, 16 eyewitnesses on the
ground, a B-52 crew or for that matter any previous flight crew. What
you are saying is that a temperature inversion was picked up and
confirmed on three different radars, was by visual observation
estimated to be 200’ wide and hundreds of feet long, had a command
module on top of it’s plasma ball was circled by a B-52 crew and then
sped away at over 3000 mph. You can believe “temperature inversion”
and not the highly trained personnel that came forward. I thought I
was the one who smoked weed?
What was the official explanation? From a Rense article:
What we have, then, was a group of sightings made by men on the
ground, at the missile sites scattered around the base. There were
radar sightings from ground and weather's radar. There were visual
sightings from the crew of the B-52, and an airborne radar sighting
where the target traveled at 3,000 miles per hour. Scope photographs
were taken. There were sightings made by S.Sgt. Bond the FSC at Nov.
Flight, S.Sgt. Smith at Oscar-1, Julelt, and Mike Flight Team and a
number of men in widely scattered locations. The object landed at
location AA-43 and the entire observation lasted for 45 minutes.
Fourteen other people in separate locations also reported the UFO.
Security alarm were activated for both the outer and inner ring at the
missile sites. When the guards arrived at the outer door it was open
and the combination lock on the inner door had been moved.
Editors Note: The case in my estimation was never investigated
properly. Project Blue Book personnel never sent a representative and
the case was essentially written off despite the interest of several
Strategic Air Command generals including 15th Air Force's Major
General Nichols. The sighting was officially explained by on November
13, by Lt. Col. Hector Quintanilla who wrote, "The following
conclusions have been reached after a thorough study of the data
submitted to Foreign Technology Division. The ground visual sightings
appear to be of the star Sirius and the B-52, which was flying in the
area. The B-52 radar contact and the temporary loss of the UHF
transmission could be attributed to a plasma similar to ball
lightning. The air visual from the B-52 could be the star Vega, which
was on the horizon at the time, or it could be a light on the ground,
or possibly a plasma. No further investigation by the Foreign
Technology Division is contemplated.
This is a classic Blue Book case where dozens of Air Force personnel
who see B-52s and stars nightly have their testimony doubted. They
know when they've seen a UFO. In this case the scientists doing the
Condon report agreed that this was a real UFO. The apparent damage to
the missile site and disruption of B-52 radio transmissions was in my
opinion a threat to primary nuclear offensive systems and should not
have been trivialized. The records speak for themselves. This article
was taken from Scientific Ufology written by Captain Kevin D. Randle
USAFR. I consider this his finest book and recommend its reading. This
case like thousands of others are explained away with any simple
mundane explanation that can be found. Yet many cases involve the
tampering of key government weapon systems. It appears Quintanilla
either did not care or had instructions to write off most of the
sightings with any available excuse. I wonder why the reports were
white washed, while the Air Force's scientific advisor Alan Hynek was
coming to the opposite conclusion that, UFOs were real?
Think about it, “Project Blue Book personnel never sent a
representative and the case was essentially written off despite the
interest of several Strategic Air Command generals including 15th Air
Force's Major General Nichols.”
This paragraph in itself confirms that the incident was covered up.
Why, because if the Air Force were to admit this to be a REAL evident
it would expose the fact that they are powerless to perform their
prime objective. PROTECT OUR AIRSPACE.
Hagar- ".. it only lasted 7-8 minutes.." ....but it could not be
repeated..."
The event lasted 45 minutes, over 200 similar incidents have been
repeated at various nuclear sites.
Get your facts straight.
HVAC- Airborne temperature inversions can cause visual anomalies
That will show up on radar.
Problem solved.
Problem solved? Only in your mind.
B-52 Crew- 5 Naysayers- 0
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vtcapo
Opps almost forgot:
Foreign Technology Division. The ground visual sightings
appear to be of the star Sirius and the B-52, which was flying in the
area. The B-52 radar contact and the temporary loss of the UHF
transmission could be attributed to a plasma similar to ball
lightning. The air visual from the B-52 could be the star Vega, which
was on the horizon at the time, or it could be a light on the ground,
or possibly a plasma. No further investigation by the Foreign
Technology Division is contemplated.
They are saying all those highly trained individuals mistook the
stars Sirus and Vega, a light on the ground or a plasma ball to be a
HUGE CRAFT. What, not Venus or swamp gas? I guess they need to
revamp their training. I thought these guys on the B-52 could navigate
by the stars?
Total rubbish!
B-52 crew- 6 Naysayer's- 0
Brad Guth
Perhaps they were lighting off their own farts while breathing too
much ozone.
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vtcapo
BG, I think it's time to let the Naysayer's re-group. Their
investigative prowess is nil and their gullibility to accept the
government line shows they that they are in denial.
I think I'm done here .......
RT
Hägar
"Notroll2O12" <notro...@charter.net> wrote in message
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> "HVAC" wrote in message news:ir837q$27r$1...@hvac.motzarella.org...
>
> On 5/20/2011 1:32 PM, vtcapo wrote:
>>
>>
>> B-52 flight crew- Radar confirmation and visual sighting. (An actual
>> visual fly around).
>> Minot Air Force Base- Ground radar confirmation as well as weather
>> radar and 16 eye-witnesses on the ground.
>
>
> Airborne temperature inversions can cause visual anomalies
> that will show up on radar.
>
> Problem solved.
> *******************************************************
> Or it could be a Hagar fart. They've been know to show up on radar as
> they rise thousands of feet and are then swept westward by the prevailing
> winds (no pun intended).
The fact that the "prevailing" winds blow west to east apparently is beyond
your grasp. But, I just love it when you make an asshole of yourself every
time you open you skin-flute player, Deliverance boi.
Hägar
http://www.ufocasebook.com/minotafb.html
Get your facts straight.
RT
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World wide the Virgin Mary has been sighted 1,000s of times.
According to you, oh brainless one, that is enough proof of her
existence ??? and these are all normal, church-going folks who
would never tell a lie.
B 52 Crew - 0; UFO NumbNutzes - 10,000.
Hägar
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And the face of Jesus is imprinted into the Shroud of Turin ....
bwahahahahahahahhhhh ...
Marble statues of religious icons the world over are shedding
teats the color of Jebus' blood .... bwahahahahahahahhhhhhh
The Heaven's Gate people were so convinced that a UFO was
hiding behind a passing comet that they all went bye-bye to
join those already aboard ... yes, you are the sane ones and we
are guilty of not seeing the light, you utterly ignorant oaf.
I used to defend the legalization of pot, but after seeing what it did to
your brain, I may change my mind.
Notroll2O12
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No, fuckwad. Your flatulence takes a great circle route - several times.
HVAC
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> HVAC says…
> Airborne temperature inversions can cause visual anomalies
> That will show up on radar.
> Problem solved.
>
> Not even a good try. Show me one incident where a temperature
> inversion baffled a highly trained Tower, 16 eyewitnesses on the
> ground, a B-52 crew or for that matter any previous flight crew. What
> you are saying is that a temperature inversion was picked up and
> confirmed on three different radars, was by visual observation
> estimated to be 200’ wide and hundreds of feet long, had a command
> module on top of it’s plasma ball was circled by a B-52 crew and then
> sped away at over 3000 mph. You can believe “temperature inversion”
> and not the highly trained personnel that came forward. I thought I
> was the one who smoked weed?
Obviously Guth and Warhole are people who indulge as well as you.
The fact that you cannot comprehend weather anomalies or
their effects upon radar systems is of no concern to me.
Google it up and get back to me.
I have resolved this 'sighting'. Get over it.
Brad Guth
But they get to impose their denial of being in denial, just like they
get to pretend being Atheists and otherwise pretending as not being
ZNRs, brown-nosed clowns and minions of their mainstream status-quo.
Go figure.
Sir Gilligan Horry
>On 5/20/2011 1:32 PM, vtcapo wrote:
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>> B-52 flight crew- Radar confirmation and visual sighting. (An actual
>> visual fly around).
>> Minot Air Force Base- Ground radar confirmation as well as weather
>> radar and 16 eye-witnesses on the ground.
>
>
>Airborne temperature inversions can cause visual anomalies
>that will show up on radar.
>
>Problem solved.
So, you shot down the temperature inversions ?
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Brad Guth
> On Sat, 21 May 2011 06:13:37 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On 5/20/2011 1:32 PM, vtcapo wrote:
>
> >> B-52 flight crew- Radar confirmation and visual sighting. (An actual
> >> visual fly around).
> >> Minot Air Force Base- Ground radar confirmation as well as weather
> >> radar and 16 eye-witnesses on the ground.
>
> >Airborne temperature inversions can cause visual anomalies
> >that will show up on radar.
>
> >Problem solved.
>
> So, you shot down the temperature inversions ?
Silly boy, he was being factious.
Lonnie Clay
> On May 21, 9:52 am, Sir Gilligan Horry <G....@ga7rm5er.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 21 May 2011 06:13:37 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >On 5/20/2011 1:32 PM, vtcapo wrote:
> >
> > >> B-52 flight crew- Radar confirmation and visual sighting. (An actual
> > >> visual fly around).
> > >> Minot Air Force Base- Ground radar confirmation as well as weather
> > >> radar and 16 eye-witnesses on the ground.
> >
> > >Airborne temperature inversions can cause visual anomalies
> > >that will show up on radar.
> >
> > >Problem solved.
> >
> > So, you shot down the temperature inversions ?
>
> Silly boy, he was being factious.
>
> http://www.wanttoknow.info/
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With all that friction going on, your factoid is bound to shoot a wad of excitement. It thrilled ME to the bone!
Lonnie Courtney Clay
Sir Gilligan Horry
<brad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 21, 9:52 am, Sir Gilligan Horry <G...@ga7rm5er.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 May 2011 06:13:37 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On 5/20/2011 1:32 PM, vtcapo wrote:
>>
>> >> B-52 flight crew- Radar confirmation and visual sighting. (An actual
>> >> visual fly around).
>> >> Minot Air Force Base- Ground radar confirmation as well as weather
>> >> radar and 16 eye-witnesses on the ground.
>>
>> >Airborne temperature inversions can cause visual anomalies
>> >that will show up on radar.
>>
>> >Problem solved.
>>
>> So, you shot down the temperature inversions ?
>
>Silly boy, he was being factious.
>
> http://www.wanttoknow.info/
Hey, nice link...
Lonnie Clay
> On Sat, 21 May 2011 10:04:17 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth
>
>
> >On May 21, 9:52 am, Sir Gilligan Horry <G....@ga7rm5er.com> wrote:
4:58 pm - bookmarked for later, if there IS a later LOLOL...
Lonnie Courtney Clay
Brad Guth
> On Sat, 21 May 2011 10:04:17 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth
>
>
> >On May 21, 9:52 am, Sir Gilligan Horry <G...@ga7rm5er.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 21 May 2011 06:13:37 -0400, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On 5/20/2011 1:32 PM, vtcapo wrote:
>
> >> >> B-52 flight crew- Radar confirmation and visual sighting. (An actual
> >> >> visual fly around).
> >> >> Minot Air Force Base- Ground radar confirmation as well as weather
> >> >> radar and 16 eye-witnesses on the ground.
>
> >> >Airborne temperature inversions can cause visual anomalies
> >> >that will show up on radar.
>
> >> >Problem solved.
>
> >> So, you shot down the temperature inversions ?
>
> >Silly boy, he was being factious.
>
> >http://www.wanttoknow.info/
>
> Hey, nice link...
>
> http://www.wanttoknow.info
William Mook offers similar history and his interpretations of what
has been going on for decades. It's a wonder that their WW3 hasn't
gotten the global population of us down below the "Georgia Guide
Stone" number of 500 million by now. Withholding advanced knowledge
of ETs and of their technology from the masses of needy humans is
certainly another good way of getting rid of most of us.
Perhaps their NWO has had second thoughts on exterminating or culling
more than 7 billion of us. Even systematically getting rid of 100
million of us per year is going to be logistically messy as hell, even
if mass dumped into the oceans as fish food, because that's 10,000
ship loads of 10,000 bodies equals 100 million per year, that you'd
think would make our oceans kinda organic ripe.
Sir Gilligan Horry
If the Shadow Government and Area51 and 'Growing Centralizing Power'
Humans, and Henry Kissinger types... do kill 90% of the population...
The negative multi-dimensional type extraterrestrials
will take full control and laugh at everyone for a few million years.
We'd do best to support Dr Michael E. Salla and other good folks.
7 Billion well educated skilled good souls, is the ultimate power.
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