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*_//J _//B*

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Jun 26, 2008, 5:22:08 PM6/26/08
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"www.freedomtofascism.com" <tr...@r.us> wrote in message
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>
> Earth is now tilted 49.5 egress on its axis. It was caused by the melting
> of the polar ice caps. Earth is continuing to slip, eventually it will be
> laying on its side, with the magnetic poles facing in the path of its
> orbit.
>
> Can anyone explain?

'Prolly' caused by your - FAT/ASS....!

*:)>

Hope that Helps!

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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:22:08 +0100, "*_//J _//B*" <*TheAngel*@tiscali.co.uk>
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<yawn>
>
>

Hybrid Angel

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"*_//J _//B*" <*TheAngel*@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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It's more like that 2012 meteor/comet getting closer.......


>
> *:)>
>
> Hope that Helps!

"There will be weather, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions as
man has never seen before." (HaShem)

Hope that helps.......
>
>
>


BradGuth

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Jun 29, 2008, 12:54:21 PM6/29/08
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On Jun 27, 12:28 pm, "Hybrid Angel" <xxx0...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "*_//J _//B*" <*TheAng...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message

>
> news:486370c9$1...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
> > "www.freedomtofascism.com" <tr...@r.us> wrote in message
> >news:pn3364tc55m2kaqct...@4ax.com...
>
> >> Earth is now tilted 49.5 egress on its axis. It was caused by the
> >> melting
> >> of the polar ice caps. Earth is continuing to slip, eventually it will
> >> be
> >> laying on its side, with the magnetic poles facing in the path of its
> >> orbit.
>
> >> Can anyone explain?
>
> > 'Prolly' caused by your - FAT/ASS....!
>
> It's more like that 2012 meteor/comet getting closer.......

If a little something else interacts with that massive and fast moving
comet, we could be next on God's no-fly list of getting a serious
sucker-punch.

>
> "There will be weather, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions as
> man has never seen before." (HaShem)
>
> Hope that helps.......

Just a seriously big-ass hole clean through the relatively thin crust
of Earth, that's all.

BTW, were are not resting at nearly 50 degrees, at least not by the
commonly deductive interpretation of where zero degrees used to be.
However, if going far enough back in time, that's entirely another
matter for consideration.

How many thousand years old is freedomtofascism?

- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth

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Jun 29, 2008, 1:06:58 PM6/29/08
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
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>were are not resting at nearly 50 degrees,

Recent calculations have it slightly more than 50 degrees.

But I'm using the old Stonehenge method. It may be off a few degrees....


www.freedomtofascism.com

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Jun 29, 2008, 1:17:19 PM6/29/08
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:06:58 -0400, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us>
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I'd say it's about 60-65 degrees at the current moment.

The sun set the other night at about 30 degrees west of due north.


HVAC

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>
> Recent calculations have it slightly more than 50 degrees.
>
> But I'm using the old Stonehenge method. It may be off a few degrees....


Hahahahahahaha!


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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:17:29 -0700 (PDT), HVAC <MR....@gmail.com> wrote:

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>"www.freedomtofascism.com" <tr...@r.us> wrote in message
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>>
>> Recent calculations have it slightly more than 50 degrees.
>>
>> But I'm using the old Stonehenge method. It may be off a few degrees....
>
>
>Hahahahahahaha!

"Once the axis has tipped sideways, the orientation of the earth toward the
sun will have the north pole facing toward the sun in the summer and the
south pole facing the sun in the winter. The earth will continue to rotate,
but sideways like a watermelon on a horizontal spit. During summer the
southern hemisphere will be dark and cold while the northern will be searing
hot and always light. The inverse will be true in the winter. "
http://axischange.wordpress.com/

You're going to need a lot of oil to keep up with this kind of change.

And there's PLENTY of oil to keep the heaters and the air conditioners on
planet Earth going.... and there's several countries who are glad to sell
you the oil.

And Nazi oil companies are definitely NOT going to cut their profits....

....it's the only profit they have.

8-}```


BradGuth

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Jun 29, 2008, 1:39:11 PM6/29/08
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On Jun 29, 10:17 am, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:06:58 -0400,www.freedomtofascism.com<tr...@r.us>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
>
> >>we're are not resting at nearly 50 degrees,

>
> >Recent calculations have it slightly more than 50 degrees.
>
> >But I'm using the old Stonehenge method. It may be off a few degrees....
>
> I'd say it's about 60-65 degrees at the current moment.
>
> The sun set the other night at about 30 degrees west of due north.

What is your GPS lat/long?

www.freedomtofascism.com

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Jun 29, 2008, 1:49:42 PM6/29/08
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:47:02 -0400, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us>
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>And Nazi oil companies

Read: Rothschild.....

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:39:11 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Jun 29, 10:17 am, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:

GPS? GPS doesn't work during an exis shift.

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:50:41 -0400, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us>
wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:39:11 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Jun 29, 10:17 am, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:06:58 -0400,www.freedomtofascism.com<tr...@r.us>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com>
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>> >>we're are not resting at nearly 50 degrees,
>>>
>>> >Recent calculations have it slightly more than 50 degrees.
>>>
>>> >But I'm using the old Stonehenge method. It may be off a few degrees....
>>>
>>> I'd say it's about 60-65 degrees at the current moment.
>>>
>>> The sun set the other night at about 30 degrees west of due north.
>>
>>What is your GPS lat/long?
>

>GPS? GPS doesn't work during an axis shift.

Oopsie, corrected typo.

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:51:29 -0400, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us>
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That's why our favorite Nazis, THE Department of Homeland Security is
reverting back to the old antenna system.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/4266972.html

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Jun 29, 2008, 2:23:30 PM6/29/08
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:57:51 -0400, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us>
wrote:

This is way GPS is being abandoned:

"Once the axis has tipped sideways, the orientation of the earth toward the
sun will have the north pole facing toward the sun in the summer and the
south pole facing the sun in the winter. The earth will continue to rotate,
but sideways like a watermelon on a horizontal spit. During summer the
southern hemisphere will be dark and cold while the northern will be searing
hot and always light. The inverse will be true in the winter. "
http://axischange.wordpress.com/

GPS won't work after the axis shift is complete.

Timberwoof

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Jun 29, 2008, 3:59:28 PM6/29/08
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In article <u5gf64h5v860qljtj...@4ax.com>,
www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:

Show us your work. While you're at it, please indicate which star is now
closest to where the North Pole points. I should be able to verify your
claim photographically.

However, if I take a picture of the sky and it rotates about Polaris as
usual, then what?

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." æ°—hris L.

Timberwoof

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Jun 29, 2008, 4:00:13 PM6/29/08
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In article <1ogf645n9bb90q78a...@4ax.com>,
www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:

It's supposed to do that during the summer months in the northern
hemisphere. What's your latitude? Did you do the experiment with the
globe I told you to do?

Timberwoof

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Jun 29, 2008, 4:01:33 PM6/29/08
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In article <5qif64d2s9pr5es8s...@4ax.com>,
www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:

> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:39:11 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Jun 29, 10:17 am, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:06:58 -0400,www.freedomtofascism.com<tr...@r.us>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com>
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> >>we're are not resting at nearly 50 degrees,
> >>
> >> >Recent calculations have it slightly more than 50 degrees.
> >>
> >> >But I'm using the old Stonehenge method. It may be off a few degrees....
> >>
> >> I'd say it's about 60-65 degrees at the current moment.
> >>
> >> The sun set the other night at about 30 degrees west of due north.
> >
> >What is your GPS lat/long?
>
> GPS? GPS doesn't work during an exis shift.

That's no excuse. "GPS lat/long" is just shorthand for latitude and
longitude.

Indeed, the longitude isn't needed to calculate at what angle north the
sun should set. What's your latitude? What city are you in?

www.freedomtofascism.com

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Jun 29, 2008, 4:12:53 PM6/29/08
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:59:28 -0700, Timberwoof
<timberw...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:

>Show us your work.

Your job is to do the work yourself.

That's what science is all about.

www.freedomtofascism.com

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:00:13 -0700, Timberwoof
<timberw...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:

>In article <1ogf645n9bb90q78a...@4ax.com>,
> www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:06:58 -0400, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>were are not resting at nearly 50 degrees,
>> >
>> >Recent calculations have it slightly more than 50 degrees.
>> >
>> >But I'm using the old Stonehenge method. It may be off a few degrees....
>>
>> I'd say it's about 60-65 degrees at the current moment.
>>
>> The sun set the other night at about 30 degrees west of due north.
>
>It's supposed to do that during the summer months in the northern
>hemisphere.

ROFL

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:01:33 -0700, Timberwoof
<timberw...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:

>What's your latitude? What city are you in?

ROFL

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:14:10 -0400, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us>
wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:00:13 -0700, Timberwoof
><timberw...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <1ogf645n9bb90q78a...@4ax.com>,
>> www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:06:58 -0400, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
>>> >wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>were are not resting at nearly 50 degrees,
>>> >
>>> >Recent calculations have it slightly more than 50 degrees.
>>> >
>>> >But I'm using the old Stonehenge method. It may be off a few degrees....
>>>
>>> I'd say it's about 60-65 degrees at the current moment.
>>>
>>> The sun set the other night at about 30 degrees west of due north.
>>
>>It's supposed to do that during the summer months in the northern
>>hemisphere.
>
>ROFL

Oopsie, correction. I just measured again, the sun is setting less than 10
degrees west of due north. That would make the axis shift about 65 degrees!


>
>> What's your latitude? Did you do the experiment with the
>>globe I told you to do?

When I was a kid I used to sit in my back yard and watch the sun setting in
the west on summer solstice.

My, my how things have changed.

To bad my parents aren't here to explain things....

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:14:10 -0400, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us>
wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:00:13 -0700, Timberwoof
><timberw...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <1ogf645n9bb90q78a...@4ax.com>,
>> www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:06:58 -0400, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
>>> >wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>were are not resting at nearly 50 degrees,
>>> >
>>> >Recent calculations have it slightly more than 50 degrees.
>>> >
>>> >But I'm using the old Stonehenge method. It may be off a few degrees....
>>>
>>> I'd say it's about 60-65 degrees at the current moment.
>>>
>>> The sun set the other night at about 30 degrees west of due north.
>>
>>It's supposed to do that during the summer months in the northern
>>hemisphere.
>
>ROFL

Oopsie, correction. I just measured again, the sun is setting less than 10


degrees west of due north. That would make the axis shift about 65 degrees!

Besides, I have a portal window about 1 foot wide facing exactly due north.
The sun is shining brightly right in the window.


>
>> What's your latitude? Did you do the experiment with the
>>globe I told you to do?

When I was a kid I used to sit in my back yard and watch the sun setting in


the west on summer solstice.

Now it is setting in the north.

Landy

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"www.freedomtofascism.com" <tr...@r.us> wrote in message
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She obviously does not know where she is. What a surprise.
The question was asked, you moron, because depending on your latitude, where
you observed the sun setting might be exactly where it is supposed to set.
It only sets directly west at the equinox (or all year if you live on the
equator).


Landy

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"www.freedomtofascism.com" <tr...@r.us> wrote in message
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Why are you laughing? You're the only idiot that seems to not realise this
basic bit of geometry.
And believe me, everyone is laughing at you.

Landy

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"www.freedomtofascism.com" <tr...@r.us> wrote in message
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No, that would be the equinox, not the solstice.
Maybe you have Alzheimer's? But then, perhaps senile dementia is more
likely.


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So it doesn't set in the west if you're not on the equator? Did the earth
stop revolving or what?!?
>
>
>

www.freedomtofascism.com

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On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:37:53 +1000, "Landy" <no...@nowhere.net> wrote:

>
>"www.freedomtofascism.com" <tr...@r.us> wrote in message
>news:j6rf64dcns68f70cq...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:00:13 -0700, Timberwoof
>> <timberw...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <1ogf645n9bb90q78a...@4ax.com>,
>>> www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:06:58 -0400, www.freedomtofascism.com
>>>> <tr...@r.us>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
>>>> >wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>were are not resting at nearly 50 degrees,
>>>> >
>>>> >Recent calculations have it slightly more than 50 degrees.
>>>> >
>>>> >But I'm using the old Stonehenge method. It may be off a few
>>>> >degrees....
>>>>
>>>> I'd say it's about 60-65 degrees at the current moment.
>>>>
>>>> The sun set the other night at about 30 degrees west of due north.
>>>
>>>It's supposed to do that during the summer months in the northern
>>>hemisphere.
>>
>> ROFL
>
>Why are you laughing?

It's setting in the NNW.

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Nah, you just don't know the difference.

solstice
One entry found.

solstice

Main Entry: sol·stice
Pronunciation: \'säl-st?s, 'sol-, 'so?l-\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin solstitium, from sol sun + -stit-,
-stes standing; akin to Latin stare to stand — more at solar, stand
Date: 13th century
1 : either of the two points on the ecliptic at which its distance from the
celestial equator is greatest and which is reached by the sun each year
about June 22 and December 22
2 : the time of the sun's passing a solstice which occurs about June 22 to
begin summer in the northern hemisphere and about December 22 to begin
winter in the northern hemisphere


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/solstice
>
>
>

BradGuth

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On Jun 29, 10:51 am, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:50:41 -0400,www.freedomtofascism.com<tr...@r.us>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:39:11 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com>
> >wrote:

>
> >>On Jun 29, 10:17 am,www.freedomtofascism.com<tr...@r.us> wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:06:58 -0400,www.freedomtofascism.com<tr...@r.us>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>> >On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com>
> >>> >wrote:
>
> >>> >>we're are not resting at nearly 50 degrees,
>
> >>> >Recent calculations have it slightly more than 50 degrees.
>
> >>> >But I'm using the old Stonehenge method. It may be off a few degrees....
>
> >>> I'd say it's about 60-65 degrees at the current moment.
>
> >>> The sun set the other night at about 30 degrees west of due north.
>
> >>What is your GPS lat/long?
>
> >GPS? GPS doesn't work during an axis shift.
>
> Oopsie, corrected typo.

Pretend that it does work. What's your old fashioned lat/long? (aka
red push-pin in the globe of Earth, as it was prior to this shift)

Landy

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"www.freedomtofascism.com" <tr...@r.us> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:37:53 +1000, "Landy" <no...@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"www.freedomtofascism.com" <tr...@r.us> wrote in message
>>news:j6rf64dcns68f70cq...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:00:13 -0700, Timberwoof
>>> <timberw...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <1ogf645n9bb90q78a...@4ax.com>,
>>>> www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:06:58 -0400, www.freedomtofascism.com
>>>>> <tr...@r.us>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
>>>>> ><brad...@gmail.com>
>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>were are not resting at nearly 50 degrees,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Recent calculations have it slightly more than 50 degrees.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >But I'm using the old Stonehenge method. It may be off a few
>>>>> >degrees....
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd say it's about 60-65 degrees at the current moment.
>>>>>
>>>>> The sun set the other night at about 30 degrees west of due north.
>>>>
>>>>It's supposed to do that during the summer months in the northern
>>>>hemisphere.
>>>
>>> ROFL
>>
>>Why are you laughing?
>
> It's setting in the NNW.
>

That is probably where it is supposed to set. You still haven't told us
your latitude.


Landy

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"www.freedomtofascism.com" <tr...@r.us> wrote in message
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Yes - probably yours. Every book on astronomy states it is the equinox (not
to mention common sense).


Landy

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"www.freedomtofascism.com" <tr...@r.us> wrote in message
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Can't you read? I said at the equator it sets in directly the west all year
round. Elsewhere, that only happens at the equinox(s).


BradGuth

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On Jun 29, 10:57 am, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:51:29 -0400,www.freedomtofascism.com<tr...@r.us>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:50:41 -0400,www.freedomtofascism.com<tr...@r.us>
> >wrote:
>
> >>On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:39:11 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com>
> >>wrote:

>
> >>>On Jun 29, 10:17 am,www.freedomtofascism.com<tr...@r.us> wrote:
> >>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:06:58 -0400,www.freedomtofascism.com<tr...@r.us>
> >>>> wrote:
>
> >>>> >On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com>
> >>>> >wrote:
>
> >>>> >>we're are not resting at nearly 50 degrees,
>
> >>>> >Recent calculations have it slightly more than 50 degrees.
>
> >>>> >But I'm using the old Stonehenge method. It may be off a few degrees....
>
> >>>> I'd say it's about 60-65 degrees at the current moment.
>
> >>>> The sun set the other night at about 30 degrees west of due north.
>
> >>>What is your GPS lat/long?
>
> >>GPS? GPS doesn't work during an axis shift.
>
> That's why our favorite Nazis, THE Department of Homeland Security is
> reverting back to the old antenna system.
>
> http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/4266972.html

Modern satellites (as of the last couple of decades) don't really care
how much Earth is shifting. ISS might tend to care, because they have
to avoid the potentially lethal SAA contour at all possible cost.

Pretend that GPS does or at least once did work. What's your old
fashioned lat/long? (red push-pin the the tilted globe of Earth)

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:32:15 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Jun 29, 10:51 am, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:50:41 -0400,www.freedomtofascism.com<tr...@r.us>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:39:11 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com>
>> >wrote:
>>
>> >>On Jun 29, 10:17 am,www.freedomtofascism.com<tr...@r.us> wrote:
>> >>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:06:58 -0400,www.freedomtofascism.com<tr...@r.us>
>> >>> wrote:
>>
>> >>> >On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com>
>> >>> >wrote:
>>
>> >>> >>we're are not resting at nearly 50 degrees,
>>
>> >>> >Recent calculations have it slightly more than 50 degrees.
>>
>> >>> >But I'm using the old Stonehenge method. It may be off a few degrees....
>>
>> >>> I'd say it's about 60-65 degrees at the current moment.
>>
>> >>> The sun set the other night at about 30 degrees west of due north.
>>
>> >>What is your GPS lat/long?
>>
>> >GPS? GPS doesn't work during an axis shift.
>>
>> Oopsie, corrected typo.
>
>Pretend that it does work.

Explain to the viewing audience why GPS won't work after the Earth lays down
on it's axis.

Timberwoof

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In article <gi2g6495a0gcm4j9t...@4ax.com>,
www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:

You can throw definitions at us all you want. It's clear that you don't
understand them yourself and that you have not done any experiments
with a globe and a lamp to work out the geometry yourself.

You're either lying about your experimental results or you so badly
misunderstand them that you can't even report them correctly.

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for

emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.

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No it's not. Before the shift it was impossible for the Sun to set more than
45 degrees north of due west.

The sun is now setting at 50.63 (according to my measurement experiment)
degrees north of due west. So it is more north than it is west.

>You still haven't told us
>your latitude.

You don't need to know. All you need to know is which hemisphere you're in
and measure the angle of the sun.

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:47:43 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
wrote:

You don't need to know that to determine that the Earth has shifted its
axis.

All you need is to measure the angle of the Sun from YOUR position.

Timberwoof

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Jun 29, 2008, 7:07:18 PM6/29/08
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In article <g48v7n$mpv$1...@news-01.bur.connect.com.au>,
"Landy" <no...@nowhere.net> wrote:

Correct.

> (or all year if you live on the
> equator).

Nope. Go get your globe and a lamp and do the experiment I described the
other day. At the northern summer solstice, on the equator, the sun
rises and sets 23° north of due east or west; at the winter solstice, on
the equator, the sun rises and sets 23° south of due east and west.

Think about it: At noon in London, on the northern summer solstice, the
terminator goes from 0° longitude at the Arctic Circle, crosses the
equator at ±90° longitude at a surface angle of 23°, and goes to 180°
longitude at the Antarctic Circle.

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for

emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.

BradGuth

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On Jun 29, 4:00 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:32:15 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com>

Satellites can be relocated and otherwise calibrated to suit their
position. Launching replacement GPS satellites is no longer as R&D
spendy nor time consuming, as there are likely a few spares available
on short order.

Why are you afraid to tell us your lat/long (to within +/- a few km if
need be)?

Timberwoof

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Jun 29, 2008, 7:08:33 PM6/29/08
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In article <g492uh$phi$1...@news-01.bur.connect.com.au>,
"Landy" <no...@nowhere.net> wrote:

> "www.freedomtofascism.com" <tr...@r.us> wrote in message
> news:db2g64tkjo6cgpu8l...@4ax.com...
> > On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:35:50 +1000, "Landy" <no...@nowhere.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"www.freedomtofascism.com" <tr...@r.us> wrote in message
> >>news:p9rf649kgcescmaji...@4ax.com...
> >>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:01:33 -0700, Timberwoof
> >>> <timberw...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>What's your latitude? What city are you in?
> >>>
> >>> ROFL
> >>>
> >>
> >>She obviously does not know where she is. What a surprise.
> >>The question was asked, you moron, because depending on your latitude,
> >>where
> >>you observed the sun setting might be exactly where it is supposed to set.
> >>It only sets directly west at the equinox (or all year if you live on the
> >>equator).
> >
> > So it doesn't set in the west if you're not on the equator? Did the earth
> > stop revolving or what?!?
>
> Can't you read? I said at the equator it sets in directly the west all year
> round. Elsewhere, that only happens at the equinox(s).

No. Be sure to read my detailed post on this, earlier in this thread.

BradGuth

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Just give us your home town, village or city. (I promise, no MIB are
going to hunt you down, at least no by my command)

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:01:15 -0700, Timberwoof
<timberw...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:

Why use a substitute, when you have the real thing to experiment with?


>
>You're either lying about your experimental results or you so badly
>misunderstand them that you can't even report them correctly.

Anyone can reproduce them.

www.freedomtofascism.com

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:07:18 -0700, Timberwoof
<timberw...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:

>Go get your globe and a lamp and do the experiment

Why use props when you can measure the Sun's angle
using the real thing?

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Jun 29, 2008, 7:26:00 PM6/29/08
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:07:22 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Jun 29, 4:00 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:

Why are you afraid to tell everyone why GPS won't work after the Earth lays
down on its axis?


>
>Why are you afraid to tell us your lat/long (to within +/- a few km if
>need be)?

I'm not. It's irrelevant.

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:11:18 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Jun 29, 3:15 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:

You don't need to know that to determine if the Earth's axis has shifted.

All you need is to measure the angle of the Sun from where you are.

BradGuth

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On Jun 29, 4:30 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:11:18 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com>

From where I am, on a hill in Olalla Washington (not too far from an
old cold-war missile site), it's looking just about right, if not dead
on exactly where it's supposed to be. Sorry about that.

Perhaps I just never gave it much consideration, as to where the sun
was last year, or of the years before. The summer season seems to be
on track, as per usual it's not too cold and not too hot, but thus far
just a little bit warmer than usual.

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:31:25 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Jun 29, 4:30 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:

It may look right, but the axis of Earth has indeed shifted. My
calculations show that it has changed from 23.5 to 50.63 degrees.


>
>Perhaps I just never gave it much consideration, as to where the sun
>was last year, or of the years before. The summer season seems to be
>on track, as per usual it's not too cold and not too hot, but thus far
>just a little bit warmer than usual.

It will become increasingly warmer in the summer and colder in the winter
because the Earth is laying down on it's axis.

"Once the axis has tipped sideways, the orientation of the earth toward the
sun will have the north pole facing toward the sun in the summer and the
south pole facing the sun in the winter. The earth will continue to rotate,
but sideways like a watermelon on a horizontal spit. During summer the
southern hemisphere will be dark and cold while the northern will be searing
hot and always light. The inverse will be true in the winter. "
http://axischange.wordpress.com/

Now explain how precession torque will factor into the axis shift.

http://www.4physics.com/phy_demo/newton/newton_rot3.htm

Timberwoof

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In article <5i7g64l0fk3du9vrg...@4ax.com>,
www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:

> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:31:25 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >From where I am, on a hill in Olalla Washington (not too far from an
> >old cold-war missile site), it's looking just about right, if not dead
> >on exactly where it's supposed to be. Sorry about that.
>
> It may look right, but the axis of Earth has indeed shifted. My
> calculations show that it has changed from 23.5 to 50.63 degrees.

And you won't show us your data or your work. Silly troll.

Timberwoof

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Jun 29, 2008, 11:16:00 PM6/29/08
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In article <cd6g64lbgtrc61f5b...@4ax.com>,
www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:

Because when you use props, you can actually see the relationship of our
local measurements to global realities. It clarifies the situation.

--
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"When you post sewage, don't blame others for

emptying chamber pots in your direction." æ°—hris L.

Timberwoof

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In article <t15g649tcp0dnkaqa...@4ax.com>,
www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:

> No it's not. Before the shift it was impossible for the Sun to set more than
> 45 degrees north of due west.

To the north of the arctic circle, the sun never set during the summer
months; it goes all the way around the horizon without setting. On the
arctic circle, on the summer solstice, the sun rises and sets due north.

> The sun is now setting at 50.63 (according to my measurement experiment)
> degrees north of due west. So it is more north than it is west.

Go make your measurements again in six months and tell us what you find.

> >You still haven't told us
> >your latitude.
>
> You don't need to know. All you need to know is which hemisphere you're in
> and measure the angle of the sun.

Which shows that you don't understand the geometry of what you're
claiming.

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for

emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:13:48 -0700, Timberwoof
<timberw...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:


>And you won't show us your data or your work.

I am not the claimant. I am a peer reviewer. I verified the claim here to
be true:

http://www.divulgence.net

> Silly troll.

Stop trolling. Everyone has gotten the idea that they too can verify,
easily, that the Earth's rotational exist has shifted to at least 49.5
degrees.

www.freedomtofascism.com

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Jun 29, 2008, 11:35:06 PM6/29/08
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:16:00 -0700, Timberwoof
<timberw...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:

>In article <cd6g64lbgtrc61f5b...@4ax.com>,
> www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:07:18 -0700, Timberwoof
>> <timberw...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Go get your globe and a lamp and do the experiment
>>
>> Why use props when you can measure the Sun's angle
>> using the real thing?
>
>Because when you use props, you can actually see the relationship of our
>local measurements to global realities. It clarifies the situation.

Using the global realities to measure the global realities is more accurate.

www.freedomtofascism.com

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:20:58 -0700, Timberwoof
<timberw...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:

>In article <t15g649tcp0dnkaqa...@4ax.com>,
> www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
>
>> No it's not. Before the shift it was impossible for the Sun to set more than
>> 45 degrees north of due west.
>
>To the north of the arctic circle, the sun never set during the summer
>months; it goes all the way around the horizon without setting. On the
>arctic circle, on the summer solstice, the sun rises and sets due north.
>
>> The sun is now setting at 50.63 (according to my measurement experiment)
>> degrees north of due west. So it is more north than it is west.
>
>Go make your measurements again in six months and tell us what you find.
>
>> >You still haven't told us
>> >your latitude.
>>
>> You don't need to know. All you need to know is which hemisphere you're in
>> and measure the angle of the sun.
>
>Which shows that you don't understand the geometry of what you're
>claiming.

Wrong.

www.freedomtofascism.com

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:31:18 -0400, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us>
wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:13:48 -0700, Timberwoof
><timberw...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
>>And you won't show us your data or your work.
>
>I am not the claimant. I am a peer reviewer. I verified the claim here to
>be true:
>
>http://www.divulgence.net
>
>> Silly troll.
>
>Stop trolling. Everyone has gotten the idea that they too can verify,

>easily, that the Earth's rotational axis has shifted to at least 49.5
>degrees.

The sun should never rise or set north of the Tropic of Cancer.

But it is.

Landy

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"www.freedomtofascism.com" <tr...@r.us> wrote in message
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Christ! You are more stupid than I thought possible. In fact I shouldn't
call you stupid. Calling you stupid is an insult to stupid people.


Cat_in_awe

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www.freedomtofascism.com wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:14:10 -0400, www.freedomtofascism.com
> <tr...@r.us> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:00:13 -0700, Timberwoof
>> <timberw...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <1ogf645n9bb90q78a...@4ax.com>,
>>> www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:

>>>
>>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:06:58 -0400, www.freedomtofascism.com
>>>> <tr...@r.us> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:54:21 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
>>>>> <brad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> were are not resting at nearly 50 degrees,

>>>>>
>>>>> Recent calculations have it slightly more than 50 degrees.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I'm using the old Stonehenge method. It may be off a few
>>>>> degrees....
>>>>
>>>> I'd say it's about 60-65 degrees at the current moment.
>>>>
>>>> The sun set the other night at about 30 degrees west of due north.
>>>
>>> It's supposed to do that during the summer months in the northern
>>> hemisphere.
>>
>> ROFL
>
> Oopsie, correction. I just measured again, the sun is setting less
> than 10 degrees west of due north. That would make the axis shift
> about 65 degrees!
>>

Is your compass broken? How do you know where due north is?


Timelord

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"Cat_in_awe" <rl31...@excite.com> wrote in message
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Ouch, ware is that guys brain ( the earth north is always moving ).
LOL,LOL,LOL
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In article <486C0B12.1167...@cpbbs.synchro.net>,
"Timelord" <time...@cpbbs.synchro.net.remove-z8x-this> wrote:

> Ouch, ware is that guys brain ( the earth north is always moving ).

Can you tell us in what ways "it" is moving and why I put "it" in
quotation marks?

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for

emptying chamber pots in your direction." æ°—hris L.

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By looking at old documents denoting "due north" (directional north) which
were written before the axis shift. Technically 'north' is in a different
direction now.

>Ouch, ware is that guys brain ( the earth north is always moving ).
>LOL,LOL,LOL

A compass only measures magnetic north and not directional north.
Magnetic north has changed. Directional north and magnetic north were never
the same anyway.

BradGuth

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On Jun 29, 4:44 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:31:25 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com>

Hmmmm, I may have to ponder a sideways Earth, as the sun replaces the
North Star. (now that's seriously weird)

Is the entire solar system tilting or wobbling itself about at the
same time, so that we can't tell by way of looking at those fixed
stars?

www.freedomtofascism.com

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On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:17:56 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <brad...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Heh, I didn't think of that. The Sun as the North Star.

>Is the entire solar system tilting or wobbling itself about at the
>same time, so that we can't tell by way of looking at those fixed
>stars?

If any astronomer or star gazer in the southern hemisphere can see Polaris
they're in deep shitsky.


Landy

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"www.freedomtofascism.com" <tr...@r.us> wrote in message
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We can't.


www.freedomtofascism.com

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Yeah, some can.

Landy

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"www.freedomtofascism.com" <tr...@r.us> wrote in message
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Like who?


www.freedomtofascism.com

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Message-ID: <tb2r641osf0m7mib2...@4ax.com>

Landy

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"www.freedomtofascism.com" <tr...@r.us> wrote in message
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does not exist


www.freedomtofascism.com

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Neither will you, shortly.

R. LaCasse

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Jul 6, 2008, 5:11:48 AM7/6/08
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:47:02 -0400, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us>
wrote:

|>>Hahahahahahaha!


|>
|>"Once the axis has tipped sideways, the orientation of the earth toward the
|>sun will have the north pole facing toward the sun in the summer and the
|>south pole facing the sun in the winter. The earth will continue to rotate,
|>but sideways like a watermelon on a horizontal spit. During summer the
|>southern hemisphere will be dark and cold while the northern will be searing
|>hot and always light. The inverse will be true in the winter. "
|> http://axischange.wordpress.com/

That would be true for a 49.5 Degrees Axis change, but, a full 180
Degrees would be seamless....the 49.5 may be an answer to a lot of
weather/tsunami earthquake anomalies we've been having for the last 20
years....

Bob Casanova

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On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:11:48 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by R. LaCasse
<wiz...@nostredamus.info>:

Well, except for the fact that anyone can check the position
of the sun at noon on the summer solstice and see that
there's been no measurable change in the Earth's axial tilt,
yes, it probably would.
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

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